Amy Winehouse.......Much Too Soon

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  • AndreaAndrea Posts: 3,787
    Thank you paula for finding and posting those articles - scary stuff!!!
  • paula-cpaula-c Posts: 7,221
    In one final bizarre photo op with Amy Winehouse, the singer's former bodyguards posed with a box containing Amy's ashes as they left the crematorium in London earlier today...a family rep confirms to TMZ.<br />
    !!!!!!!!! :o
  • hesouttamylifehesouttamylife Posts: 5,393
    I totally believe she was mind controlled and made a sacrifice.  There was a comment on one of the articles from a woman who said that she had been a victim of the MK Ultras and that Amy’s behavior was a prime indicator that she was too.  I would love to learn more about the screaming and chanting coming from her room before she died. 
  • paula-cpaula-c Posts: 7,221
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    <br />Thank you paula for finding and posting those articles - scary stuff!!!<br />
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  • SouzaSouza Posts: 9,400
    There is something very weird with this story. A week before her death she was photographed walking alone on the streets, looking great. I just can't believe they can't determine the cause of death after an autopsy. Aside from drugs or alcohol, shouldn't they be able to see if it's heart failure, lung failure, liver failure or whatever? If it would not be an OD, it would show up at the autopsy one way or another imo. If it was an OD, then they would have seen that at the death scene, if she was in fact alone at the house. They would have found needles, drugs, pills, empty pill bottles or whatever, but so far no word on that. So if it's an OD, and there was nothing found at the scene, then she was murdered, period. Amy is said to have been hard to control, ever since she was a kid. Maybe she got too vocal. That she was a controlled puppet should be clear. <br /><br />But something smells like hoax. Maybe I am a nutcase after 2 years of MJ hoax, but something just seems off. TMZ posting that picture a week before her death, Amy being called Wino, like MJ was called Jacko, the similarities between their deaths and self-destruction period before death, the enormous amount of articles about her death on TMZ, the weird article of her talking to MJ's gohst, which I remember reading back then, but most of all, the fact that she was cremated, while Jewish people always get a burial, plus that uber-strange article about the bodyguards with her ashes. Seriously, those are not her ashes, bull shit! As commented on TMZ by someone, ashes stay very hot for a while and will therefor be released to the parents in 36 to 48 hours. Besides that, there is an avarage 3 kilograms of ashes left when you are cremated. That's a lot of ash, no way that fits in that tiny box they are holding. So I smell a rat, I just don't know yet if his name is murder or hoax. If it's a hoax, then the parents might not know (yet) or are better actors than the Jacksons. I still think the Jacksons were so unemotional to make the hoax more believable, Amy's parents might act very emotional to make a death more believable. Real emotions? If she is dead, than probably yes, if she's not, then maybe good acting. Meryl Streep's emotions looked very real in "Sophie's Choice" as well.<br /><br />I do hope it's a hoax, I was pretty shocked by her death, otherwise they better hurry the fuck up with that investigation, because if she's death, then I am sure it's by the hands of another. But hey, I'm a fucking nutcase and consiracy theorist.

    "For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."

  • paula-cpaula-c Posts: 7,221
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    <br />There is something very weird with this story. A week before her death she was photographed walking alone on the streets, looking great. I just can't believe they can't determine the cause of death after an autopsy. Aside from drugs or alcohol, shouldn't they be able to see if it's heart failure, lung failure, liver failure or whatever? If it would not be an OD, it would show up at the autopsy one way or another imo. If it was an OD, then they would have seen that at the death scene, if she was in fact alone at the house. They would have found needles, drugs, pills, empty pill bottles or whatever, but so far no word on that. So if it's an OD, and there was nothing found at the scene, then she was murdered, period. Amy is said to have been hard to control, ever since she was a kid. Maybe she got too vocal. That she was a controlled puppet should be clear. <br /><br />But something smells like hoax. Maybe I am a nutcase after 2 years of MJ hoax, but something just seems off. TMZ posting that picture a week before her death, Amy being called Wino, like MJ was called Jacko, the similarities between their deaths and self-destruction period before death, the enormous amount of articles about her death on TMZ, the weird article of her talking to MJ's gohst, which I remember reading back then, but most of all, the fact that she was cremated, while Jewish people always get a burial, plus that uber-strange article about the bodyguards with her ashes. Seriously, those are not her ashes, bull shit! As commented on TMZ by someone, ashes stay very hot for a while and will therefor be released to the parents in 36 to 48 hours. Besides that, there is an avarage 3 kilograms of ashes left when you are cremated. That's a lot of ash, no way that fits in that tiny box they are holding. So I smell a rat, I just don't know yet if his name is murder or hoax. If it's a hoax, then the parents might not know (yet) or are better actors than the Jacksons. I still think the Jacksons were so unemotional to make the hoax more believable, Amy's parents might act very emotional to make a death more believable. Real emotions? If she is dead, than probably yes, if she's not, then maybe good acting. Meryl Streep's emotions looked very real in "Sophie's Choice" as well.<br /><br />I do hope it's a hoax, I was pretty shocked by her death, otherwise they better hurry the fuck up with that investigation, because if she's death, then I am sure it's by the hands of another. But hey, I'm a fucking nutcase and consiracy theorist.<br />
    <br /><br /><br /><br /><br />I'd like much this is a hoax, but the emotions of parents, ... his mother moved me deeply<br /><br /><br />
  • AndreaAndrea Posts: 3,787
    I agree Souza that her death is either murder or a hoax.  And it seems that (almost) everyone "Put the Blame on Amy" for her death.<br /><br />The TMZ stuff is just too reminiscent of the aftermath of Michael's "death", albeit on a smaller scale.  And they really seem to be emphasizing this part:<br /><br />amy-winehouse-swipe.png<br /><br />They even did an article with accompanying photo gallery about the 27 club.  http://photos.tmz.com/galleries/the_27_club#tab=most_recent <br /><br />In their poll after Amy died  http://www.tmz.com/2011/07/23/amy-winehouse-dead-dies-27-london-apartment/ , they ask about the 27 club, the ask whose to blame and slip in "the music industry" as one of the answers, and ask "drugs - the root of evil in rock?" - which could be a veiled hint that drugs are used by TPTB to control and manipulate the artists.  And that they're evil.  The same poll also compares her tragedy to Michael's.  So whether it's a murder or hoax, TMZ is trying to draw attention to that.  If it's a hoax, it could've been planned for when Amy was 27, to bring forth the 27 club speculation and have people questioning what's going on in the music industry.  Expose the music industry for the evil they do.<br /><br />Amy and Michael also had tours canceled - Michael because he "died" and Amy just a few weeks prior.  And Amy lived in London.  That article TMZ did 10 days before she died was titled "Amy Winehouse -- Walking Upright Again"  http://www.tmz.com/2011/07/13/amy-winehouse-rehab-concert-healthy-singer-canceled-tour/  reminded me of the one TMZ did about Michael showing his "human" arm or something like that.  Anyways, I know I'm probably reaching here by hoping she's hoaxed her death because the alternative is really very scary.  If it was a murder, then there's no doubt in my mind that it was a ritualistic sacrifice.  So I would obviously rather have Amy give a big "F U" to TPTB instead by faking her death.
  • AndreaAndrea Posts: 3,787
    This is too weird!!<br /><br />If you take this:<br /><br />Tweet Teddy<br />THANK YOU GOD FOR THIS DAY I WILL REMEMBER. TOMORROW IS NOT PROMISE. I WAS BORN THE 8TH DAY OF OCT. THATS WHEN HE ROSE FROM THE DEAD.<br />1:43 AM May 17th via web<br /><br /><br /> /><br /> and the big Jackson announcement about a concert in Cardiff on October 8<br /><br />and factor in Amy Winehouse:<br /><br />You get [size=14pt]77[/size] days from July 23 (death date) to October 8.<br /><br />Coincidence??
  • GraceGrace Posts: 2,864
    The relations between the media and the stars are as such: the media always profit from the stars, be it from good or for bad news. We have a certain behaviour pattern occuring in medicine, IT, jurisdiction, industry. If you don't have enough to live on, you must create a new product. One sells an anti-virus software only because there is a "virus" (real or not). It is called "product cycle". <br />Marketing will do the necessary to spread the fear that "without" the new product, life will be unbearable and terrible and that literally you cannot go on living without buying it. (Housewife complex "your house is not clean enough - be embarrassed" BS.) <br /><br />In music, the new "product" must at least be "cool", if not mysterious, dark, negative, "forbidden", unethical, breaking taboos to raise most of attention and income. Anybody ever wondered why love music and lyrics are much less often about how brilliant and beautiful love is but about how much tristess and sorrow and pain and loneliness and disaster love will cause? Why do they sell so incredibly well? Because the overall understanding of love has become the public brainwash version - that love has to be all terrible and horrifying and that "natural" consequences of love are a catastrophy in a life. Love has got a coat of dark black in public music. Almost everybody falls for that just because made-up "stars" are singing this day in day out into our brains. <br />A beautiful tender love song will not get the public go wild and bring the bucks in anymore. The more negative the more hip. As to the big entertainment players, the public doesn't get presentations of new singers in TV shows because they are talented but because an investment in building them up will provide a ROI (return on investment). <br /><br />If current products are not popular enough to serve as "conversion rate catalysts" (conversion into $$$) there must be a new one. "Older stars" either become "cash cows" (not costing any investment money but delivering a certain minimum of $$$ - Joe Cocker is a cash cow e.g.) or get off stage being replaced. <br />I'd say, Amy came across many who did not estimate her making enough $$$ with her "Back to Black" music but too much sideshow trouble. Point is, she was influenced to "make trouble" to feed the other side of the coin - the media. <br /><br /><br />Look at these pictures - it makes your heart ache and reminds me so much of Norma Jean Baker: <br /><br />amy-winehouse07.jpg<br /><br />amy-winehouse08.jpg<br /><br />amy-winehouse09.jpg<br /><br />amy-winehouse11.jpg<br /><br />amy-winehouse13.jpg<br /><br /><br />There are journalists stressing that Amy's death just came right to take off the heat on Murdoch. <br />I have no doubt that this was a positivly considered and convenient side-effect of Amy's death. (See article on Murdoch below for getting to know how Murdoch is ticking.) <br /><br /><br />
    Amy Winehouse and the British tabloids  <br />By  Paul Willis, Special to CNNJuly 26, 2011 -- Updated 2150 GMT (0550 HKT) New York (CNN) -- <br /><br />The discovery of Amy Winehouse's body at her London home gave Rupert Murdoch and his clan a brief respite from an avalanche of bad press, supplanting the phone-hacking scandal that had remained the lead story for weeks in British newspapers and TV shows. It is somewhat ironic that Winehouse's death inadvertently took some of the heat off News International, the British arm of the mogul's media business: The troubled star was frequently a target of the tabloid culture that Murdoch helped to foster. Her battle with her private demons was very public, detailed in a nearly constant stream of lurid tales in the tabloids. <br /><br />The Murdoch-owned Sun newspaper, for example, published images in 2008 of Winehouse smoking from a glass pipe alongside the headline "Amy Winehouse on crack," with a story claiming the singer had ingested a cocktail of drugs that included crack cocaine during a house party. But the British tabloids' casual intrusiveness into the personal lives of the famous must be re-evaluated after the firestorm of revelations about News International's news-gathering methods. The scandal began with the egregious story that a private investigator in the pay of the company had hacked the cell phone of a murdered schoolgirl. Up to this point, tabloids seemed to have regarded this predatory intrusiveness as a moral right.
    <br />http://edition.cnn.com/2011/OPINION/07/26/willis.winehouse.tabloids/ <br /><br /><br /><br />
    News Corp-Owned Times Of London Runs Cartoon About Hacking And Starving Children <br />by Alex Alvarez | 9:58 am, July 21st, 2011  » 76 comments  <br /><br />There are several methods of dealing with a much-publicized scandal, some less advisable than others. Issuing a public apology for mistakes or poor judgment? Pretty much always a good idea. Holding individuals responsible for their roles and dealing with them accordingly? Usually works out pretty well. Publishing a tacky, potentially offensive cartoon making light of serious allegations AND life-threatening poverty? <br />Oddly enough, that rarely ever works. <br /><br />politicalcartoon.jpg <br /><br />And, yet, that’s precisely what the Times of London did when it ran an editorial cartoon, marked “Priorities…”, that depicted three starving, ethnically ambiguous children sitting nude in the sand. One of the doe-eyed children looks mournfully out at the viewer, cradling his distended stomach and announcing that he has had “a bellyful of phone-hacking.” <br />Any guesses as to what company owns the Times of London? If you guessed “News Corp,” you’re a winner! Can we agree that eradicating childhood hunger is still a global priority and that outlets diligently, even obsessively, covering the phone hacking scandal were probably not devoting too many headlines to the plight of starving, saucer-eyed children in the first place? Although, hey. Maybe the Times of London can change the tide by donating to charities fighting to end hunger, or devoting an issue to poverty instead of offering up condescending, out of touch editorials that only work to reflect poorly on its already beleaguered employer. h/t @emmagkeller
    <br />http://www.mediaite.com/online/news-corp-owned-times-of-london-runs-cartoon-about-hacking-and-starving-children/ <br /><br /><br />As to the bodyguards posing (igniting with this composition the thought of "see, this is all that remains of a person" thus further imposing pains on those who loved Amy) - well Michael's bodyguards did pose as well for the media and the world to watch. Was the subliminal message of these presentations "we can aim to guard the body but not the mind" ? <br /><br />For how long celebs will continue to serve and be abused as a shocker and mind fragmenter to the public? <br />Who is gambling here?
  • chappiechappie Posts: 529
    It's not over yet....
  • paula-cpaula-c Posts: 7,221
    Amy winehouse "had overcome drugs", according to his father<br /><br /><br />
    London, 27 July (Telam).-Amy Winehouse had overtaken three years his drug addiction and before his death he had not drunk alcohol, said his father during the burial of the singer.<br />"I wasn't depressed", revealed Mitch Winehouse, according to a spokesman for the family, when addressed attendees at the burial of the remains of the artist in London yesterday, and referring to the days prior to the death, said: "For years it was not so happy".<br />In this context, as appropriated the DPA News Agency, said that Amy "three years ago overcame his drug addiction".<br />"Doctors said it was impossible, but she did." "He attempted to also control his problems with alcohol and three weeks ago was abstemia," added the father of the singer.<br />Also that "in recent months, had been found with his partner Reg Traviss a happy love and he looked forward to thinking about a future with him" and, under pain of father, said that "knowing that has died happy is something which makes us well at all".<br />Soul singer was found dead Saturday at his home in London.<br />Initially he speculated with the possibility of the artist, who struggled for years against his addiction to drugs and alcohol, had died from an overdose.<br />The causes of his death will be aware, according to police, in two weeks, when have the results of various tests.<br />Within the framework of the intimate ceremony with which yesterday gave the last farewell to Amy Winehouse, the father revealed also that hours before his death he was with his mother and then was in his room playing music and singing, and as it was too late, his bodyguard told him that it should not make so much noise and she made her case.<br />"The heard it moving for a while and when in the morning he saw her, he thought that he was still sleeping," he added, but noted that when a couple of hours later again entered the room, he realized that the young singer no longer breathing.<br />Mitch Winehouse announced that part of the fortune of his daughter will go to a foundation that fights against addictions.(Telam).-<br />ld-lei 27/07/2011 07:55
    <br />http://ve.noticias.yahoo.com/amy-winehouse-habia-superado-drogas-segun-padre-105801751.html<br /><br />I will be attentive to this case<br />
  • skywaysskyways Posts: 745
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    <br />It's not flat and she was really very little and thin. The edit option is not available and I think it would help us to not make 3 posts in line in case we forgot to say something or if we want to edit .... <br /><br />http://www.gettyimages.com/detail/119665591/Getty-Images-Entertainment<br /><br />http://www.gettyimages.com/detail/119665589/Getty-Images-Entertainment<br /><br />http://www.gettyimages.com/detail/119665552/Getty-Images-Entertainment<br /><br />http://www.gettyimages.com/detail/119665549/Getty-Images-Entertainment<br />
    N<br /><br />THANX  ANNA!! BUT Video Feed from news - fox or ABC - WAS showing COMPLETELLY Different sealed bag.flat and folded. i f anybody can find that first day of her passing video , please posted. Appreciated.<br />SO SAD, really, - she was EXTRIME Talent  :(((
  • applehead250609applehead250609 Posts: 2,615
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    <br />It's not flat and she was really very little and thin. The edit option is not available and I think it would help us to not make 3 posts in line in case we forgot to say something or if we want to edit .... <br /><br />http://www.gettyimages.com/detail/119665591/Getty-Images-Entertainment<br /><br />http://www.gettyimages.com/detail/119665589/Getty-Images-Entertainment<br /><br />http://www.gettyimages.com/detail/119665552/Getty-Images-Entertainment<br /><br />http://www.gettyimages.com/detail/119665549/Getty-Images-Entertainment<br />
    N<br /><br />THANX  ANNA!! BUT Video Feed from news - fox or ABC - WAS showing COMPLETELLY Different sealed bag.flat and folded. i f anybody can find that first day of her passing video , please posted. Appreciated.<br />SO SAD, really, - she was EXTRIME Talent  :(((<br />
    <br /><br />[size=12pt]Hello skyways!!<br /><br />I know this is kinda morbid and I apologise but I found a video about that day on youtube,here it is :cry::[/size]<br /><br /><br />Amy Winehouse body removed from London home.<br />
    <br /><br />[size=12pt]I really dont know what to believe,maybe is a hoax ,maybe no but that picture of her bodyguards with her ashes :shock: afraid/ is kinda diabolic.I mean what is wrong with them,is not a album picture for God sake,its something private :?.Something is very strange and out of normal,so I really hope is a hoax .[/size]<br /><br /><br />[size=12pt]LOVE[/size]
  • For All TimeFor All Time Posts: 259
    I am very sorry for her, such a talented young lady with so much trouble in her life. RIP dear Amy :(
  • <br />[glow=red,2,300]Amy Winehouse's fortune could triple after her death[/glow]<br /><br />The star was found dead at her home in London on July 23 and, just five days after her death, tens of thousands of her hit albums have been bought by fans wanting to hear her famous music. <br /><br /><br />Amy Winehouse's fortune could triple after her death as 50,000 copies of her albums sold in the first week. <br /><br />The star was found dead at her home in London on July 23 and, just five days after her death, tens of thousands of her hit albums have been bought by fans wanting to hear her famous music. <br /><br />According to UK newspaper Daily Mirror, the star had £10million in savings and investments as well as her £2.3million home in London and another £3million in her four companies. <br /><br />In the first week after her death, more of her albums were sold than in the first six months of this year. <br /><br />Reports suggest her parents could inject some of the cash into a new foundation to help those struggling with addiction.<br /><br />http://inmusic.ca/news_and_features/news/amy_winehouses_fortune_could_triple_after_her_death/eeb6bfc9<br /><br />[size=12pt]Can you believe that, you need to die to make more money..[/size]
  • applehead250609applehead250609 Posts: 2,615
    [size=12pt]OMG I cant believe my eyes!!!!!!<br />This is so strange and out of place,how can Latoya speak about the pain of loosing Michael  :? when in fact he is very much alive.She even said she felt the family pain because she lived the same pain :shock:?????What is this? This is starting to sound like a nightmare,so please Jackson family,just STOP,ok?[/size]<br /><br />[size=12pt]La Toya Jackson talks Amy Winehouse passing via Twitter<br /><br />The sister of the King of Pop, Michael Jackson, La Toya Jackson, took to Twitter this weekend, like so many other stars, and discussed her feelings about the loss of the talented singer, Amy Winehouse. The news was broken in the media on Saturday, that Amy Winehouse had shockingly passed away at the very young age of twenty-seven. Fans around the world are stunned and saddened over the loss. Jackson, who has experienced the loss of her brother, took to Twitter to express her condolences for the family of the singer.<br /><br />La Toya Jackson took to Twitter and wrote of the shocking passing of singer Amy Winehouse: “I’m so sorry to hear about Amy Winehouse, we’ve lost another incredible talent! My heart goes out to her family and my prayers R with them. I know the pain her family is experiencing I feel their pain. I’ve lived their pain. I’m soooo terribly sorry. Once again R prayers R with U.”[/size]
  • paula-cpaula-c Posts: 7,221
    JOSH REEVES-SPECIAL REPORT-NORWAY MASSACRE,WINEHOUSE,TEMPLAR CARTEL-ALL ROADS <br /> <br /> <br />
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  • AndreaAndrea Posts: 3,787
    Paula...that video...OH MY GOD.<br /><br />Unfortunately it looks like my initial reaction to Amy Winehouse's death being a sacrifice is what happened.  Too many coincidences with dates and events (and her age) for it to be anything else.  I actually never realized that the bee hive was a masonic symbol and that Neptune was prevalent in Amy's personal astrology - I'm assuming this is being based on her natal chart, which usually proves to be quite accurate in my experiences.  But her dying on the Neptunalia date, right after the end of the bohemian grove ritual is just too big of a coincidence.  I still hold a small hope that she saw this coming and faked her death before they got to her but...I don't know, I just have  a bad feeling about it.<br /><br />As for the rest of the stuff in the video...  !!!!  Just a reminder that NOTHING IS AS IT SEEMS and WE ARE BEING LIED TO EVERYDAY!!  These people are sick and evil.<br /><br />And I always thought Alex Jones was a false informer.
  • applehead250609applehead250609 Posts: 2,615
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    <br />JOSH REEVES-SPECIAL REPORT-NORWAY MASSACRE,WINEHOUSE,TEMPLAR CARTEL-ALL ROADS <br /> <br /> <br />
    <br /><br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tajhzmRNQW8&feature=player_embedded<br />
    <br /><br />[size=12pt]Thank you very much for this video,very scary stuff  afraid/ :shock:!!!!!!!<br />Now if Amy was sacrificated by them what can we say about Michael,remember what took place in 07.07 09????????<br />And talking about Alex Jones,I cant stand this  guy,Im sorry :?!!!![/size]
  • [glow=red,2,300]Amy Winehouse: Did Alcohol Withdrawal Kill Her?[/glow]<br /><br /><br />http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/amy-winehouse-family-alcohol-withdrawal-killed/story?id=14181980<br /><br />[size=12pt]Sorry, I did not allow me to copy paste.  :(  I invite you to read this article  that states  Amy could have been in withdrawal, she stopped drinking cold turkey. They advised her not too, but she said if I do it gradually I will never stop. It says by being in withdrawl it can also cause cardiac arrest, heart attack. Now is it this the cause? I have no clue.[/size]
  • paula-cpaula-c Posts: 7,221
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    <br />JOSH REEVES-SPECIAL REPORT-NORWAY MASSACRE,WINEHOUSE,TEMPLAR CARTEL-ALL ROADS <br /> <br /> <br />
    <br /><br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tajhzmRNQW8&feature=player_embedded<br />
    <br /><br />[size=12pt]Thank you very much for this video,very scary stuff  afraid/ :shock:!!!!!!!<br />Now if Amy was sacrificated by them what can we say about Michael,remember what took place in 07.07 09????????<br />And talking about Alex Jones,I cant stand this  guy,Im sorry :?!!!![/size]<br />
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    <br />Paula...that video...OH MY GOD.<br /><br />Unfortunately it looks like my initial reaction to Amy Winehouse's death being a sacrifice is what happened.  Too many coincidences with dates and events (and her age) for it to be anything else.  I actually never realized that the bee hive was a masonic symbol and that Neptune was prevalent in Amy's personal astrology - I'm assuming this is being based on her natal chart, which usually proves to be quite accurate in my experiences.  But her dying on the Neptunalia date, right after the end of the bohemian grove ritual is just too big of a coincidence.  I still hold a small hope that she saw this coming and faked her death before they got to her but...I don't know, I just have  a bad feeling about it.<br /><br />As for the rest of the stuff in the video...  !!!!  Just a reminder that NOTHING IS AS IT SEEMS and WE ARE BEING LIED TO EVERYDAY!!  These people are sick and evil.<br /><br />And I always thought Alex Jones was a false informer.<br />
    <br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />We must question everything that we look and we read in the newspapers, television and internet. I do not rely heavily on these men, Alex Jones and David Icke. A guy of england that made it great revelations was Rik Clay and he died,.. the " suicide ",...The first video posed by all these doubts about Alex Jones and David Icke and the second an interview with Rik<br /><br />http://dedroidify.blogspot.com/2008/09/rip-rik-clay-1982-2008.html<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />
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  • MashMikeMashMike Posts: 1,312
    I've just watched the video where her parents were crying, it broke my heart, their emotions were real, it's obvious, (the same thing i cannot say about the Jacksons) and in this case i think Amy hoaxing her death is just a wishful thinking :cry:
  • applehead250609applehead250609 Posts: 2,615
    Brother Randy Jackson discusses singer Amy Winehouse<br /><br />[size=12pt]The brother of Michael Jackson, Randy Jackson has taken to his official Twitter account to address what has happened with Amy Winehouse, and thanks her for all that she did for music.<br /><br />Randy Jackson wrote to his over 80,000 followers on Twitter of Amy Winehouse: “I thank Amy Winehouse 4 her great contribution to my industry. She was such a talent & I’m so saddened by her passing. Also… much too soon. My prayers are with her family. We often forget that these great artists are human & overlook that they need grace & love in their lives, they r not perfect & they hurt too.”[/size]
  • paula-cpaula-c Posts: 7,221
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    <br />Brother Randy Jackson discusses singer Amy Winehouse<br /><br />[size=12pt]The brother of Michael Jackson, Randy Jackson has taken to his official Twitter account to address what has happened with Amy Winehouse, and thanks her for all that she did for music.<br /><br />Randy Jackson wrote to his over 80,000 followers on Twitter of Amy Winehouse: “I thank Amy Winehouse 4 her great contribution to my industry. She was such a talent & I’m so saddened by her passing. Also… much too soon. My prayers are with her family. We often forget that these great artists are human & overlook that they need grace & love in their lives, they r not perfect & they hurt too.”[/size]<br />
    <br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Perhaps when Randy speaks of that artists are also human beings refers to how the music industry you squeezed until the last drop of blood to these artists and even bring them to the death, i believe that it makes any comparison between Amy and Michael, ..there are several artists who have been killed by 'overdose " drug and have in fact been killed i will not be saying that this is the case of Michael.
  • paula-cpaula-c Posts: 7,221
    Amy Winehouse and 27 Club <br /><br />By VC | August 18th, 2011 | Category: Music Business | 158 comments <br /><br /><br />Amy Winehouse’s untimely death was a sad event yet it brought to many a sentiment of deja-vu. She is indeed one of several artists who died at the age of 27 and one of the many celebrities who lost their lives in strange circumstances. Is there more to these deaths than meets the eye?<br /><br />leadamy.jpg<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Famous for her distinctive voice and soulful style and infamous for her controversies and substance abuse, Amy Winehouse embodied the classic dichotomy of a rock star: artistic brilliance coupled with a tendency for self-destruction. Her early death, at age 27, provided her the last ingredient required to become a memorable rock star: eternal youth. Going beyond her music, Winehouse will now be remembered as one of those who “lived fast and died young” and will forever have this mystical aura that surrounds those who have passed away during their prime. We will never see Amy Winehouse grow old and lose her edge. We will never see her become a “has been” who has to appear in crappy commercials to pay the bills. By dying at the age of 27, Amy Winehouse will forever be remembered as the fiery diva who inspired, shocked, attracted and repulsed people all at once. Most importantly, by dying at the age of 27, Amy Winehouse became the latest member of the 27 Club.<br /><br />27 Club<br /><br />27_club_poster.jpg<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />The 27 Club (or Forever 27) is the name given to the group of highly influential stars who died at the young age of 27. Although there are dozens of artists in the 27 Club, the most notable are Jimi Hendrix, Janis Joplin, Jim Morrison and Kurt Cobain. Most of the members of this club led somewhat troubled lives and the causes of their deaths were surrounded by a shroud of mystery. Indeed, investigating the circumstances surrounding the deaths of Jim Morrison, Jimi Hendrix and Kurt Cobain quickly leads to unanswered questions and strange abnormalities. No autopsies, no definitive causes of death and vague police reports seem to be the norm in these high-profile cases. In short, we can find in these untimely deaths everything required to generate “alternative theories” involving murder.<br /><br />Amy Winehouse’s sadly appears to be a perfect fit for the Club. Although one might argue that she was not the iconic and revolutionary artist Hendrix and others were, she bore many similarities to them: A unique style, a big following, heavy drug and alcohol usage, a tendency for depression and other mental problems, a history of bad relationships and, finally (and most importantly), a bunch of unanswered questions surrounding her death.<br /><br />Mega-Rituals<br /><br /><br />The phenomenon of stars dying at a young age in strange circumstances goes beyond the well-publicized 27 Club. While this Club is “reserved” to singers dying at the exact age of 27, many other types of artists have died in mysterious circumstances around the age of 30. Recently, the deaths of Heath Ledger (see the article about him entitled “The Imaginarium of Doctor Parnassus” and Heath Ledger’s Sacrifice) and Brittany Murphy followed the same pattern as those described above. Strangely enough, there often appears to be a media buildup around these figures before their death documenting their odd behaviour or personal problems. Were these deaths premeditated and part of some kind of sick ritual carried on by the occult-minded elite at the helms of the industry? Are charismatic stars being risen to fame in order to later sacrifice them, creating a worldwide mega-ritual? Is the wave of shock and grief surrounding these events harnessed in some way by high-powered occultists? These concepts might sound totally ridiculous to the average person but, to occult initiates, the magical potency of a human sacrifices has been recognized and documented by the rituals of many ancient civilizations. In Secret Societies and Psychological Warfare, author Michael A. Hoffman II writes:<br /><br />
    “The issue of controlling humanity with esoteric words and symbols encoded within a play, a media spectacular or a ritual is one of the most difficult for people to comprehend. That is why most people are viewed with utter contempt as “cowans”, “the profane”, “the gentiles” and “the goyim” by secret society initiates”<br /><br />
    <br /><br /><br />About mega-rituals Hoffman writes:<br /><br />
    “[Some murders] are ritual murders involving a cult protected by the U.S. government and the corporate media, with strong ties to the police. <br /><br />Such killings are actually intricately choreographed ceremonies; performed first on a very intimate and secret scale, among the initiates themselves in order to program them, then on a grand scale, amplified incalculably by the electronic media.<br /><br />In the end what we have is a highly symbolic, ritual working broadcast to millions of people, a Satanic inversion; a Black mass, where the “pews” are filled by the entire nation and through which humanity is brutalized and debased in this, the ‘Nigredo’ phase of the alchemical process.<br /><br />- Michael A. Hoffman II, Secret Societies and Psychological Warfare<br /><br />
    <br /><br /><br />In the 1940s, the French poet and theater director Antonin Artaud predicted the advent of occult mega-rituals in media. Artaud was an adept of  several forms of occultism and well-aware of the transformative powers of theatrical rituals: he created the infamous “Theater of Cruelty” that intended to profoundly change the audience. Regarding the processing of the Group Mind, Artaud wrote:<br /><br />
    “Aside from the trifling witchcraft of country sorcerers, there are tricks of global hoodoo in which all alerted consciousnesses participate periodically … That is how strange forces are aroused and transported to the astral vault, to the dark dome which is composed above all of … the poisonous aggressiveness of the evil minds of most people … the formidable tentacular oppression of a kind of civic magic which will soon appear undisguised.”<br /><br />
    <br /><br />In Hollywood, the subjects of these rituals are often manipulated and mind controlled and their deaths are often “announced” in some way or another through symbolic works. In The Imaginarium of Doctor Parnassus, the last movie Heath Ledger appeared in, the theme of sacrifice is extremely important. In one important scene, we see the images of three celebrities who died young : Rudolph Valentino, James Dean and Princess Diana. Seeing these pictures, a woman says to Johnny Depp – who was one of Ledger’s replacements in the movie – “These people … they’re all dead”. Depp replies:<br /><br />
    “Yes … but immortal nevertheless. They won’t get old or fat. They won’t get sick or feeble. They are beyond fear because they are … forever young. They’re gods … and you can join them.”<br /><br />
    <br /><br />He then added:<br /><br />“Your sacrifice must be pure.”<br /><br />These lines were intended to be said by Heath Ledger.<br /><br />heath_ledger_last_painting.jpg<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />A painting made by Vincent Fantauzzo, a friend of Ledger, featuring alter-egos whispering in his ear. The painting was completed shortly before his death.<br /><br />Brittany Murphy appeared in several strange photoshoots before her untimely death. Some of them alluded to Monarch mind control and occult rituals.<br /><br />Brittany_Murphy_Mask-e1312559955249.jpg<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Mind Control related picture of Brittany Murphy<br />ScreenHunter_27-Dec.-21-16.25.jpg<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />ScreenHunter_23-Dec.-21-16.19-e1312560207569.jpg<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Brittany Murphy surrounded by masked individuals in a occult ritualistic setting taken shortly before her death<br /><br />The Case of Amy Winehouse<br /><br />At the time of writing this article, the exact cause of Winehouse’s death is yet to be determined (alcohol withdrawal is often cited). Like most strange celebrity deaths, the public will probably be given a vague explanation involving drugs or alcohol. And, like most strange celebrity deaths, some odd facts will surface, contradicting the “official” version of the cause of the death, causing rumours, speculations and alternative versions.<br /><br />There are already witnesses who described strange happenings shortly before her death. In this news article, Winehouse’s neighbour claimed that there was “screaming, howling and some kind of drum beating” coming from her house the night she died.<br /><br />
    Amy Winehouse death: Neighbour in Camden heard ‘screaming and howling’<br />One of her neighbours said he is convinced she died in the early hours of Friday because he heard screaming. “I think something happened that night. It sounded like some weird sexual game. There was screaming and howling.” The man, who would not be named, said he was woken by the sound at around 2am that night. “It just sounded really weird and my son said he heard some kind of drum beating.”<br /><br />This afternoon he heard one of Winehouse’s friends crying in the house, and realised she was dead. He believes a friend left her at home after a night out, and returned this afternoon to find her body. “She’s been quite low-profile and that’s why, when I heard these sounds – screaming – I thought it was unlike her. “I said to my son ‘Maybe she’s taken a bad drug’.”<br /><br />He said he saw her about three weeks ago being helped into the house by her minders, and was unable to walk at 10am. “She couldn’t walk, she could hardly put one foot in front of the other.” Her cat, Sky, would come into his house for food and to sleep, he said.<br /><br />Local restaurant owner Ze Silva, 56, said Winehouse would come in as regularly as twice a week. She saw her last Tuesday and said she had stopped drinking. “She had nothing to drink. She said to me ‘Darling, don’t give me any alcohol, I’m not drinking any more’. “She was normal. She would speak to everyone, have pictures taken with the kids, give autographs to the kids. “She was a good girl, I’m very sad.”<br /><br />Winehouse would go to the restaurant, A Baia, to play snooker with her bodyguards and would send them to get her takeaway fried breakfasts. Flowers, teddies and candles had been left next to the police tape blocking off Camden Square. One card read: “You will not be forgotten by Camden. We all love you and will continue to love you. Your legend lives on.”<br /><br />- London 24, Amy Winehouse death: Neighbour in Camden heard ‘screaming and howling’<br /><br />
    <br /><br />This leads us to the most important question: was Amy Winehouse’s death a murder or, perhaps, a ritual sacrifice? Was she under mind control and offed by her handlers? Is her death simply a result of exposure to a debased industry?<br /><br />After Winehouse’s death singer Kelly Clarkson tweeted a rather poignant message regarding this matter.<br /><br />
    “I heard the news about Amy Winehouse. I’m incredibly sad. I didn’t know her but I met her a few times and got to hear her sing before she blew up. She was a beautiful and talented girl. I’m angry. What a waste of a gifted person. What a shame she saw no hope and continued living her life in that manor. I have been that low emotionally and mentally and that is overwhelming. I keep asking myself why some of us are spared and the others are made examples. I’m very angry and sad. I don’t know why it’s bothering me so much. Sometimes I think this job will be the death of us all, or at least the emotional death of us all. Maybe that is why as a little kid in sunday school I learned that God didn’t want false gods or idols. I thought it was terribly selfish of God as a child but I think I get it now. He didn’t want us following people or things that are imperfect and not so much for the followers but for the gods and/or idols who will never be what everyone wishes or needs them to be because we are made imperfect. He knew we wouldn’t be able to handle the pressure, the shame, the glory, or the power the spotlight brings. I am distraught. I am also extremely grateful and thankful for the people who love me and support me. Without such amazing friends and family who knows where I’d be. My thoughts and prayers are with her friends and family. I am so sorry for your loss. I pray for peace in your hearts.”<br /><br />
    <br /><br /><br />Thrown From the Freedom Train?<br /><br />Amy-as-a-kid-01-Amy-Winehouse.jpg<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Amy as a kid.<br /><br />marco_perego_The_Only_Good_Rock_Star_is_a_Dead_Rock_Star_2008.jpg<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />A prophetic 2008 sculpture of Amy Winehouse called "The Only Good Rock Star is a Dead Rock Star". It depicts Amy Winehouse shot in the head and laying on the floor lifeless. Next to her is creepy Minnie Mouse mask, which, as stated in several other articles, can represent Illuminati mind control (although the sculptor claimed that the masked referred to the infamous video of Winehouse playing with baby mice).<br /><br /><br />In Fritz Springmeier’s The Illuminati Formula to Create a Mind Control Slave, it is stated about mind control slaves that:<br /><br />
    The programmers/masters program them with the expectation that they will be “thrown from the freedom train” when they get to age 30. (Freedom Train is the code word for the Monarch trauma-based mind control. To be thrown from the Freedom Train means to be killed.)”<br /><br />
    <br /><br /><br />Victims of mind control often die at a young age due to several reasons. First, according to trauma-based mind control experts, the torment, torture and control exerted on victims cannot be sustained indefinitely during adulthood. At one point, often around the age of 30, programming wears off, causing the victims to regain some lucidity. This contact with reality often traumatic, causing in the victims to be severely depressed, to show symptoms of mental disorders such as MPD (multiple personality disorders) and the consumption hard drugs and alcohol. When slaves (especially those that are influential) stop responding to programming and begin displaying erratic and unpredictable behaviour, they are often “thrown from the freedom train”.<br /><br />Some victims with exceptionally strong wills and character manage to free themselves from the bonds of mind control (to a certain extent). To prevent them from “speaking out”, they are often found and “thrown off the freedom train” also.<br /><br />
    “If a slave doesn’t comply or needs to be thrown from the Freedom Train they can become a useable statistic. Simply trigger them to murder and then watch the police gun them down. The NWO gains one more statistic and another case to scare the public into accepting gun control.<br /><br />
    <br /><br />Was Winehouse under mind control and was she “thrown from the freedom train”? Difficult to say. She clearly displayed the typical symptoms of an “industry victim” and some her personal relations (notably Blake Fielder-Civil) appear to have played the role of “handler” (similar to Mariah Carey’s relation with Tommy Mottola and the late Anna-Nicole Smith’s relation with Howard K. Stern). There are several levels of mind control and Winehouse might not have underwgone the entire Monarch programming process. However, simply placing an already vulnerable person in music industry’s toxic environment and getting the celebrity machine in motion, complete with constant media harassment, is enough trauma to induce the metal instability that clears the way for mind control.<br /><br />Despite her success, Winehouse never was an “industry pawn” like other acts discussed on this site. Her unwillingness (or incapability) to “fit the mold” might have been a cause of her demise. Winehouse’s goddaughter and protege Dionne Bromfield appears to fit that mold perfectly.<br /><br />dionnebromfield-e1313614432718.jpg<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />The last shot of Bromfield's video "Foolin' ", released two months before Winehouse's death. She is displaying the sign of the "Illuminati industry pawns".<br /><br /><br /><br />In Conclusion<br /><br />Although it is difficult to know the exact cause of Amy Winehouse’s death, her case is certainly not unique. There is, in fact, a pattern that appears to repeat itself when looking at the early deaths of young celebrities. If one were to compare the lives and the circumstances leading to the death of these stars, one would notice important similarities and then realize that important “pieces of the puzzle” are often missing from official stories. From humble beginnings, these stars reach a great level of popularity. However, at one point, something goes terribly wrong and a drugged-filled, humiliating downfall almost inevitably occurs. Is the missing piece of the puzzle this thing that goes terribly wrong? If these artists are not a direct result of Monarch mind control, a “handler” figure nevertheless exists in their entourage, manipulating and influencing them towards a self-destructive behaviour. The media often adds to and amplifies the star’s problems, portraying them as disturbed drug addicts. When their death is announced, the world is shocked, yet not-so-surprised. Drugs and alcohol are, as always, the perfect scapegoats. As people say … “case closed”.<br /><br />Why is our popular culture obsessed with sex and death, where rising stars, who capture the love of millions, get shot down? In an industry permeated with occult symbolism, run by people and organizations who believe in occult powers, is it possible that actual occult rituals are being carried out? Is the collective shock caused by the announcement of a celebrity death being used as ritual psychodrama meant to imprint the collective consciousness? Of course, not all celebrity deaths are results of rituals any many of them occur because, you know, stuff happens. One thing however remains constant: The deaths are symptomatic of the dark reality of show-business, which is toxic on many levels. To be caught up in this realm and attempting to exit it is, to cite a Winehouse’s song, Some Unholy War.<br /><br />http://vigilantcitizen.com/musicbusiness/amy-winehouse-and-27-club/
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