OMGosh TS_Comments....too funny......the only thing that is racing through my head right now is that Disney cartoon....In The Bag.......I can just hear it playing as CM puts all the propofol bottles in the bag:<br /><br /><br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ol28kPTqa4<br /><br /><br />*could someone please be a dear and help me post this......perhaps, you'd be so kind TS......I'd owe you a Coke!<br /><br /><br />Blessings!<br /><br /><br />
<br />OMGosh TS_Comments....too funny......the only thing that is racing through my head right now is that Disney cartoon....In The Bag.......I can just hear it playing as CM puts all the propofol bottles in the bag:<br /><br /><br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ol28kPTqa4<br /><br /><br />*could someone please be a dear and help me post this......perhaps, you'd be so kind TS......I'd owe you a Coke!<br /><br /><br />Blessings!<br /><br /><br /><br />
<br /> <br /> <br />Funny video! lolol/ <br /> <br /> <br />Also, I think this explains why MJ was on the bed, and not on the floor.<br /> <br />You see, even at a very slow and relaxed pace, you could pick up one bottle every 5 seconds. This means that CM should've been able to pick up about 777 bottles of propofol in about an hour. But if there were hundreds and hundres of bottles kicking around on the floor: I guess that there would be nowhere that was clear of bottles, to lay the patient. smiley_spider <br /> <br />
<br />OMGosh TS_Comments....too funny......the only thing that is racing through my head right now is that Disney cartoon....In The Bag.......I can just hear it playing as CM puts all the propofol bottles in the bag:<br /><br /><br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ol28kPTqa4<br /><br /><br />*could someone please be a dear and help me post this......perhaps, you'd be so kind TS......I'd owe you a Coke!<br /><br /><br />Blessings!<br /><br /><br /><br />
<br /> <br /> <br />Funny video! lolol/ <br /> <br /> <br />Also, I think this explains why MJ was on the bed, and not on the floor.<br /> <br />You see, even at a very slow and relaxed pace, you could pick up one bottle every 5 seconds. This means that CM should've been able to pick up about 777 bottles of propofol in about an hour. But if there were hundreds and hundres of bottles kicking around on the floor: I guess that there would be nowhere that was clear of bottles, to lay the patient. smiley_spider <br /> <br /> <br />
<br /><br />I guess Murray was thinking, "Well my cash cow of a patient is dead, I'm out a job and owe money to my baby mama, I hope the recycling depot will offer me a good price for these little bottles!" <br /><br /> <br /><br />And yet he misses that key bottle. What a silly man.
I don't understand something, if Conrad Murray was trying to kill Michael, why didn't he dispose of the empty bottles at the same time he used them, instead of doing it all at once in one day.. This is too complexed, and getting me nervous.. /pull hair/ I do feel like pulling my hair at times.. If you really want to kill someone, you dispose of the evidence at the same moment he has finished the bottle, not at the last minute like he did. I honestly do not know what to think anymore.
@scorpionchick, if Murray was trying to kill MJ, then why did he tell police (allegedly) that he gave MJ Propofol? If medical examiners hadn't known to look for it they wouldn't have any reason to test for it. (Not that the metabolic properties of Propofol allow for it to be tested for according to ANY timeline presented at any time<--in real life, Propofol never would have shown up on those autopsy results the way they say it did, in the blood and blood infused tissues, metabolically impossible, this is a fact http://exploringthehoax.wordpress.com/2010/03/29/michael-jackson-back-from-the-dead/). Murray told them he gave Propofol and Murray also showed them where the Propofol was, days after they searched Carrolwood (they didn't find it the first time).<br /><br /><br />If Murray was trying to kill MJ, funded and guided by an incideous, all powerful panel of PTP, how could MJ have escaped and not be dead? Someone pumps as much Propofol into you as they "say" MJ's body had in it, without respirator/moniters, with the intent to kill, and you are going to die. No if's and's or but's. Remember, he was "dead" at Carrolwood. The room temperature was elevated. He was probably dead for hours, they "say". All of his bodyguards were either in on it, or kept away. He hadn't a single advocate in his inner circle or the entire world who would step in in his behalf and he was completely at Evil Dr. Murray's mercy... MJ doesn't escape this scenario, scorpionchick.<br /><br /><br /><br />@Scorpionchick, do you believe that Murray/conspiracists planned to kill MJ in exact accordance with MJ's two decade long planned death hoax timing? Do you believe that somehow MJ escaped and still managed to pull off the death hoax without a hitch anyway, including the ARG aspect of it that we are now playing? Do believe MJ perhaps "played dead" and fooled Murray? How did he escape? <br /><br /><br />These seem very elaborate, fantasy-based theories. Scorpionchick, you have never laid it out, start to finish and I suspect the reason you have not done it all this time is because there are more holes in it then swiss cheese and you know this. But for some reason you are more afraid to believe the truth then to believe this flimsy theory.<br /><br /><br />But again, you are still here, something compels you to keep looking.
Oh TS, I have tears of laughter streaming down my face!<br /><br />Surely someone in that court has to notice all these inconsistencies?<br /><br />(Also, it's lovely to bump into you on a thread other than your own!) bearhug
TS_comments - You made my day! I'm laughing my head off.....*ROFL!!!!<br />Just love the picture of growing amount of propofolbottles - makes me remember the Donald Duck movie when he put too much soap into the washingmashine....expanding scum....ROFL...<br />But....<br />There is another possibility of interpretation....maybe the absurd headline makes sense anywhay.<br />As I posted in another thread (MJ - New Jesus - mark my words) there are controversial theories about Jesus 'surviving his own death' being put to deathlike condition by drugs or substance that was known in the ancient middleeast (Egypt?). It's hard to research about this matter, bcause the established science lives on the 're-chew' of the former generation of scientists and relevant information is held carefully locked. However the thought came to my mind and refuses to leave it because it would explain a lot of 'weird circumstances'.<br /><br />
<br />@scorpionchick, if Murray was trying to kill MJ, then why did he tell police (allegedly) that he gave MJ Propofol? If medical examiners hadn't known to look for it they wouldn't have any reason to test for it. (Not that the metabolic properties of Propofol allow for it to be tested for according to ANY timeline presented at any time<--in real life, Propofol never would have shown up on those autopsy results the way they say it did, in the blood and blood infused tissues, metabolically impossible, this is a fact http://exploringthehoax.wordpress.com/2010/03/29/michael-jackson-back-from-the-dead/). Murray told them he gave Propofol and Murray also showed them where the Propofol was, days after they searched Carrolwood (they didn't find it the first time).<br /><br /><br />If Murray was trying to kill MJ, funded and guided by an incideous, all powerful panel of PTP, how could MJ have escaped and not be dead? Someone pumps as much Propofol into you as they "say" MJ's body had in it, without respirator/moniters, with the intent to kill, and you are going to die. No if's and's or but's. Remember, he was "dead" at Carrolwood. The room temperature was elevated. He was probably dead for hours, they "say". All of his bodyguards were either in on it, or kept away. He hadn't a single advocate in his inner circle or the entire world who would step in in his behalf and he was completely at Evil Dr. Murray's mercy... MJ doesn't escape this scenario, scorpionchick.<br /><br /><br /><br />@Scorpionchick, do you believe that Murray/conspiracists planned to kill MJ in exact accordance with MJ's two decade long planned death hoax timing? Do you believe that somehow MJ escaped and still managed to pull off the death hoax without a hitch anyway, including the ARG aspect of it that we are now playing? Do believe MJ perhaps "played dead" and fooled Murray? How did he escape? <br /><br /><br />These seem very elaborate, fantasy-based theories. Scorpionchick, you have never laid it out, start to finish and I suspect the reason you have not done it all this time is because there are more holes in it then swiss cheese and you know this. But for some reason you are more afraid to believe the truth then to believe this flimsy theory.<br /><br /><br />But again, you are still here, something compels you to keep looking.<br />
<br /> <br />I am realistic & independent thinker and refuse to be delusive. And that is my right and no one's business. I don't judge here anyone who thinks otherwise. I only express my opinion.<br />If Michael hoaxed his death according to decade plan, why do it complicated through some doctor Murray. At the beginning no one believed that he is actually doctor, then turns out CM is a doctor and his CA license is suspended. Easier would be if MJ rep. announced that Michael got heart attack or accident and died. Why include Murray, then Katherine and Joe sue AEG for wrongful death for having negligent doctor look after MJ. Too many unnecessary after hoax events and people to include in hoax. <br />I explain those events only in one way; Murray is a scapegoat used by bad guys to kill Michael who kept telling that 'they' want him dead. I don't connect dots for Murray be in hoax and go through manslaughter accusation process being innocent, just because he helped Michael to hoax and now they both play around. Not serious. We used say that Michael had to have very good reason to hoax his dead. Then what is it? Still not clear. Make fun of court, revenge.., money, personal reasons...? Again dots are not connecting.<br />I will be here til the end and we will see what happens. No one should claim he/she knows 100% what and how things are happened and going on. There are still a lot of ??? .
<br />sooooooo now it's the paramedic who saw him clearing the bottles???? i thought it was Alvarez who saw that BEFORE the paramedics arrived....<br />
<br /> <br />Yeah--and maybe I have amnesia, so maybe someone with a better memory than me can help me out! But it seems like if we put all these propofol bottle stories together, it would go something like this:<br /> <br />#1. MJ was dying or dead; but instead of calling 911, CM started picking up propofol bottles.<br /> <br />#2. CM continued picking up propofol bottles for so long, that someone else had to call 911 for him.<br /> <br />#3. When the paramedics arrived, CM was still picking up propofol bottles.<br /> <br />#4. After the paramedics arrived, instead of working on the patient--CM kept picking up propofol bottles, and let the paramedics tend to the patient.<br /> <br />#5. About HALF AN HOUR later, the paramedics and the patient were in the ambulance ready to race off to the hospital; but they waited for CM, who was visible though the upstairs window--STILL picking up propofol bottles!!!<br /> <br />#6. After arriving at the hospital, CM made some excuse about going back to hide the cream; but he really wanted to go back and FINISH hiding the propofol bottles!!!!!<br /> <br />#7. When investigators came to the scene later, they found all the bottles that CM did not finish picking up--including THE SINGLE MOST IMPORTANT BOTTLE OF ALL, THE ONE IN PLAIN SIGHT BY THE NIGHSTAND, WHICH WAS THE FATAL BOTTLE, AND IS THE SMOKING GUN TO CONVICT MURRAY!!!!!!! HOW COULD IT BE THAT AFTER PICKING UP HUNDREDS OF BOTTLES FOR AN HOUR OR SO, HOW COULD HE POSSIBLY FORGET TO PICK UP THE SINGLE MOST IMPORTANT BOTTLE OF ALL???????<br /> <br />Let the Kangaroo Court begin! <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br />
the new defense of Conrad Murray: I'm not guilty. I'm an innocent man. I was just picking up all of those bottles coming from nowhere in the bedroom.
<br />sooooooo now it's the paramedic who saw him clearing the bottles???? i thought it was Alvarez who saw that BEFORE the paramedics arrived....<br />
<br /> <br />Yeah--and maybe I have amnesia, so maybe someone with a better memory than me can help me out! But it seems like if we put all these propofol bottle stories together, it would go something like this:<br /> <br />#1. MJ was dying or dead; but instead of calling 911, CM started picking up propofol bottles.<br /> <br />#2. CM continued picking up propofol bottles for so long, that someone else had to call 911 for him.<br /> <br />#3. When the paramedics arrived, CM was still picking up propofol bottles.<br /> <br />#4. After the paramedics arrived, instead of working on the patient--CM kept picking up propofol bottles, and let the paramedics tend to the patient.<br /> <br />#5. About HALF AN HOUR later, the paramedics and the patient were in the ambulance ready to race off to the hospital; but they waited for CM, who was visible though the upstairs window--STILL picking up propofol bottles!!!<br /> <br />#6. After arriving at the hospital, CM made some excuse about going back to hide the cream; but he really wanted to go back and FINISH hiding the propofol bottles!!!!!<br /> <br />#7. When investigators came to the scene later, they found all the bottles that CM did not finish picking up--including THE SINGLE MOST IMPORTANT BOTTLE OF ALL, THE ONE IN PLAIN SIGHT BY THE NIGHSTAND, WHICH WAS THE FATAL BOTTLE, AND IS THE SMOKING GUN TO CONVICT MURRAY!!!!!!! HOW COULD IT BE THAT AFTER PICKING UP HUNDREDS OF BOTTLES FOR AN HOUR OR SO, HOW COULD HE POSSIBLY FORGET TO PICK UP THE SINGLE MOST IMPORTANT BOTTLE OF ALL???????<br /> <br />Let the Kangaroo Court begin! <br /> <br />
<br /><br />Kangaroo Court? How about saying the Circus Court begin! <br /><br /><br />
@scorpionchik...thank you a million times for the help with the video.....try as I might, posting a video is not my bag, lol...I do something wrong every single time! <br /><br /><br />You're a sweetheart.........thanks again!<br /><br /><br />Blessings
<br />sooooooo now it's the paramedic who saw him clearing the bottles???? i thought it was Alvarez who saw that BEFORE the paramedics arrived....<br />
<br /> <br />Yeah--and maybe I have amnesia, so maybe someone with a better memory than me can help me out! But it seems like if we put all these propofol bottle stories together, it would go something like this:<br /> <br />#1. MJ was dying or dead; but instead of calling 911, CM started picking up propofol bottles.<br /> <br />#2. CM continued picking up propofol bottles for so long, that someone else had to call 911 for him.<br /> <br />#3. When the paramedics arrived, CM was still picking up propofol bottles.<br /> <br />#4. After the paramedics arrived, instead of working on the patient--CM kept picking up propofol bottles, and let the paramedics tend to the patient.<br /> <br />#5. About HALF AN HOUR later, the paramedics and the patient were in the ambulance ready to race off to the hospital; but they waited for CM, who was visible though the upstairs window--STILL picking up propofol bottles!!!<br /> <br />#6. After arriving at the hospital, CM made some excuse about going back to hide the cream; but he really wanted to go back and FINISH hiding the propofol bottles!!!!!<br /> <br />#7. When investigators came to the scene later, they found all the bottles that CM did not finish picking up--including THE SINGLE MOST IMPORTANT BOTTLE OF ALL, THE ONE IN PLAIN SIGHT BY THE NIGHSTAND, WHICH WAS THE FATAL BOTTLE, AND IS THE SMOKING GUN TO CONVICT MURRAY!!!!!!! HOW COULD IT BE THAT AFTER PICKING UP HUNDREDS OF BOTTLES FOR AN HOUR OR SO, HOW COULD HE POSSIBLY FORGET TO PICK UP THE SINGLE MOST IMPORTANT BOTTLE OF ALL???????<br /> <br />Let the Kangaroo Court begin! <br />
<br /><br />Oh my, if you put it this way it's even more ridiculous. I'm going to get a few packs of diapers for that trial, I think I'm gonna need them badly.<br />
"For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."
<br /> <br />#7. When investigators came to the scene later, they found all the bottles that CM did not finish picking up--including THE SINGLE MOST IMPORTANT BOTTLE OF ALL, THE ONE IN PLAIN SIGHT BY THE NIGHSTAND, WHICH WAS THE FATAL BOTTLE, AND IS THE SMOKING GUN TO CONVICT MURRAY!!!!!!! HOW COULD IT BE THAT AFTER PICKING UP HUNDREDS OF BOTTLES FOR AN HOUR OR SO, HOW COULD HE POSSIBLY FORGET TO PICK UP THE SINGLE MOST IMPORTANT BOTTLE OF ALL???????<br /> <br />Let the Kangaroo Court begin!
<br /> <br /><br />I guess they wanted to make sure people take notice of the propofol bottles lolol/<br /><br />Kangaroo court suspicious// ?<br /><br />Is it going to be a kangaroo in the court geek/ lolol/ ?<br /><br />
Wow! Many people met Michael!! Benny Hill did!<br /><br />Talking about the bottles. Did the pharmacist who sold "millions" of propofol bottles to Murray come back from thailand?<br /><br />
Well I guess when you lay dead you have to be fine because all the worries of this world bother you no more...see there's a logical explanation to everything fresse/
<br />Oh my, if you put it this way it's even more ridiculous. I'm going to get a few packs of diapers for that trial, I think I'm gonna need them badly.<br />
<br /><br />We would be looking like these watching the trial.<br /><br />
Maybe having a mother with incontinence will prove to be useful at last! smiley_spider<br /><br />Having a husband called Conrad is going to be a bit of an irritation though..... /judge/ /scream/
You guys crack me up.....thank you, I needed that laugh....<br /><br /><br />@PureLove....my eyes will never be the same....on the floor with tears I am!<br /><br /><br />@reveron1958.......omgosh, you are too funny.....<br /><br /><br />Blessings! <br /><br />
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"For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."