Issues with Jane Velez-Mitchell Michael Jackson conspiracy theories!

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Issues with Jane Velez-Mitchell<br />Michael Jackson conspiracy theories! TONIGHT: We’ll talk to a fan who was outside the King of Pop’s home the day he died. You won’t believe her theories about a MJ cover-up — it rivals anything you’ve heard about Elvis! We’re taking YOUR calls on this! Lines open at 7pET/4pPT: 1-877-586-7297

fordtocarr

[size=14pt]I did get on that post!  I wanted to sound off on those unbelievers, but I know I'll get ganged up on.  Let alone Jane Valez Michell!  I can't want for this show, but I know they'll tear up us believers!!  [/size]

darkchild

becca26

Ummmmmm  ???/ confused/ errrr /scream/ /white flag/

son

:roll: <br /><br />She was kind of embarrassing.  :? <br /><br />Have you noticed most of the mainstream hoax theories are the weaker or "grasping at straws" ones? None of the concrete issues like Gilda or Fated ever come into play. And Pearl jr. is only making it worse with her "Alive!" documentary. I suppose it's for the best though, maybe MJ will return once all of our credibility is gone (that way it won't be expected).

Mish1981

:? :roll:

fordtocarr

Just my opinion, but, I think we are ALL Michael Jackson fans.  We all, whether on this site, or Pearl... have the feeling that Michael is alive.  We randomly absorb different information about the hoax according to what we find.  Why do we have to pick apart what others believe?  Or who's right or wrong, because we have NO proof who's right until Michael returns.  Honestly, we all love Michael.  We all believe he's alive and want to wait for him and pray for his safety, no matter which site we are on.  <br />I think we should all view Jane Valez Mitchell's page and see all the comments.  At first they were full of haters.  I was alone there wanting to vent on them.  Then, after I left msgs all over about the show, I began to see believers come in.  Now we dominate.  Now, I can't say that they are not from this site as I posted the show here too.  But, I know some of them are not.  Yet, there they are...defending Michael and the hoax and whatever reasons why Michael needed to do it.  I'm there.  Are you?  Because, that show is that the world is going to see.  She is covering the trial.  We may not like her, but the world don't know or realize what damage she has/is going to do to Michael's life.  We, leaving responses show hat not everyone, and in my opinion, it's coming close to 50/50 on believing in the hoax and not.  They on JVM and even just viewers reading the comments, will think, there must e more to what we are feeling that they thought.<br />You may think, what does it matter to tell what we feel.  But, there are ones who have come here on the fence with their feelings and researched and now believe.  What does it matter to the hoax if we do express what we feel?  Because we are defending Michael.  Because, otherwise why'd there be clues out there for us if we were not suppose to recognize...and if we are suppose to recognize them, aren't all the fans?  Who says just you or me?  Michael loves us all.  Not just here on this site...or ones of us who believe TS, Front...Pearl... but believe that Michael is alive <br /><br />

prodigal3428

I have always wanted to believe that Michael Jackson is alive.  But, the only thing that is holding me back from my many reasons and theories that he is Alive is the AUTOPSY PICTURES.  They are using these in the trial and until I see the face, I just don't know what to believe!!!!  I understand ALL that is being said.  But what about the autopsy pictures.  Help me with that!!! /judge/

applehead250609

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<br />Just my opinion, but, I think we are ALL Michael Jackson fans.  We all, whether on this site, or Pearl... have the feeling that Michael is alive.  We randomly absorb different information about the hoax according to what we find.  Why do we have to pick apart what others believe?  Or who's right or wrong, because we have NO proof who's right until Michael returns.  Honestly, we all love Michael.  We all believe he's alive and want to wait for him and pray for his safety, no matter which site we are on.  <br />I think we should all view Jane Valez Mitchell's page and see all the comments.  At first they were full of haters.  I was alone there wanting to vent on them.  Then, after I left msgs all over about the show, I began to see believers come in.  Now we dominate.  Now, I can't say that they are not from this site as I posted the show here too.  But, I know some of them are not.  Yet, there they are...defending Michael and the hoax and whatever reasons why Michael needed to do it.  I'm there.  Are you?  Because, that show is that the world is going to see.  She is covering the trial.  We may not like her, but the world don't know or realize what damage she has/is going to do to Michael's life.  We, leaving responses show hat not everyone, and in my opinion, it's coming close to 50/50 on believing in the hoax and not.  They on JVM and even just viewers reading the comments, will think, there must e more to what we are feeling that they thought.<br />You may think, what does it matter to tell what we feel.  But, there are ones who have come here on the fence with their feelings and researched and now believe.  What does it matter to the hoax if we do express what we feel?  Because we are defending Michael.  Because, otherwise why'd there be clues out there for us if we were not suppose to recognize...and if we are suppose to recognize them, aren't all the fans?  Who says just you or me?  Michael loves us all.  Not just here on this site...or ones of us who believe TS, Front...Pearl... but believe that Michael is alive <br /><br /><br />

<br /><br />[size=10pt]Fordtocar thank you very much for your post,AMEN!!!!<br />Some people will never understand who Pearl jr is,and how important is she in this HOAX.But it's ok,you have to LET THEM BE ,ford,please I know your intention are good but your "NICE WORDS",will not make a difference,because there will always be NEGATIVE THOUGHTS AROUND.<br />This is what happened to Michael,remember?????? If people dont research,they will never know the TRUTH.Bullies and insults are the EASY way to some,but to spread LOVE is the HARDEST THINK TO DO,these days.I will say one thing to you and ,the rest,PEARL is the one who convinced APHRODITE JONES to write her book,"Michael Jackson Conspiracy",in a time when EVERYONE was against him.She did alot more,but I will not say ,not one more word.This hate has to stop,and has to stop fast ,because Michael is about LOVE and ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!!!<br />Thank you ford for your wonderful SPEECH OF LOVE  !!!![/size]

fordtocarr

No, thank YOU.  I just think that we have so much from the unbelievers, and it is going to really divide the Michael fans starting with the trial next week...the least we can do as believers is stick together.  True we have differing beliefs as to reasons and actions and even personal fame (Ts/Front/Back/Pearl), but we should just unite in our love for Michael.  WHAT IF we are wrong???  Not that I believe that, but we can't be 1000% because we are not Michael or family or GOD..and who know what may happen...or what if he just don't return..not that we feel that way either.  But, think what we'll feel then, or what we'll hear from the unbelievers, when really, we ALL love Michael.  We ALL don't want him dead.  We all wish him still here available to us.<br />Thanks for your post.  Just think that if we can spread the message or defend it...we should...together as a group united in love.<br /><br /><br />]<br /><br />[size=10pt]Fordtocar thank you very much for your post,AMEN!!!!<br />Some people will never understand who Pearl jr is,and how important is she in this HOAX.But it's ok,you have to LET THEM BE ,ford,please I know your intention are good but your "NICE WORDS",will not make a difference,because there will always be NEGATIVE THOUGHTS AROUND.<br />This is what happened to Michael,remember?????? If people dont research,they will never know the TRUTH.Bullies and insults are the EASY way to some,but to spread LOVE is the HARDEST THINK TO DO,these days.I will say one thing to you and ,the rest,PEARL is the one who convinced APHRODITE JONES to write her book,"Michael Jackson Conspiracy",in a time when EVERYONE was against him.She did alot more,but I will not say ,not one more word.This hate has to stop,and has to stop fast ,because Michael is about LOVE and ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!!!<br />Thank you ford for your wonderful SPEECH OF LOVE  !!!![/size]<br />

all4loveandbelieve

Thank you for posting this video fordtocarr.. You know I have thought of that he could have been kidnap.. Two years ago, I wrote a post a dream of mine.. In the dream I was in a castle and Michael was there and he said I am kidnapped.. But in my dream he said he kidnapped himself.. I did not understand what he was trying to tell me. I wish I can find that post now.. ANYTHING is possible, we have to look in every corner of the situation.. It could be he was kidnapped and there was another person who died in his place.. Remember the emt stated that they did not recognized  Michael that day... I wish we can really know what happened that day.. Now TS has been telling us that Michael will be back in  2012 end of January.. It means he has contact with Michael in some sort of way. If Michael was really kidnapped wouldn't TS tell us indirectly??  

all4loveandbelieve

I just want to add, she said she followed the ambulance, she did not say anything of importance. She did not say what she really saw, did she see Michael coming out of the ambulance? She does not have anything concrete, nothing to back her story that simply he got kidnapped.. like I said earlier anything is possible. 

fordtocarr

Hey...I missed the comment from TS that Michael should be back the end of January 2012....where do I find that??

all4loveandbelieve

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<br />Hey...I missed the comment from TS that Michael should be back the end of January 2012....where do I find that??<br />

<br /> <br />In one of the TS post.. http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/smf2.0/index.php/topic,20261.0/topicseen.html<br /><br />actually he said january  2013 sorry made a mistake.

hesouttamylife

I live in a large metro city where it baffles me that I rarely see anyone wearing MJ tee-shirts.  However today I did.  I asked him what he thought about the trial.  He looked at me a little oddly and asked what trial.  I almost hit the floor.  Here he stood with an MJ shirt on and uttered the words “what trial”. /pull hair/  Conrad Murray (I was so close to saying you idiot).  He said oh the good doctor.  Then he said I don’t think he should go to jail because Michael Jackson was basically out of the game anyway. I had to know what he meant exactly.  So I asked what do you mean out of the game.  He said he hadn’t done anything worth while since Thriller.  I was floored.  I wanted to scream at him. WTF??  At that point, I asked him if he would please never wear that shirt again.  He kind of giggled, looked at the shirt and said he didn’t realize he had on a MJ shirt he just grabbed it out the closet and put it on. He was about to say something else, it didn’t matter,  I got my order and high tailed it out of there.  /scream/  I think I’m going mad. 

all4loveandbelieve

OMG!  So he is not a real fan of MJ what a loser.. I would have kicked his a.s.s.

MJonmind

This honestly sounds hokie to me. MJ given a drug to make him a zombie that doesn't quite kill him, and the guy says-- But the family saw him dead. It's just too silly and obviously meant to have watchers entertain thoughts of MJ being alive somehow despite the official story. I think Pearl Jr.'s role is to get people thinking about a variety of possibilities in the ARG.

all4loveandbelieve

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<br />This honestly sounds hokie to me. MJ given a drug to make him a zombie that doesn't quite kill him, and the guy says-- But the family saw him dead. It's just too silly and obviously meant to have watchers entertain thoughts of MJ being alive somehow despite the official story. I think Pearl Jr.'s role is to get people thinking about a variety of possibilities in the ARG.<br />

<br /> <br />The fact is that this woman has nothing to back her up.. How does she know they gave him a zombie pill, unless she was in the house. Unless she was paid from whom ever wanted Michael dead.. It still does not make sense.. Unless she comes out with accurate proof only then I will believe it..

PureLove

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<br />I have always wanted to believe that Michael Jackson is alive.  But, the only thing that is holding me back from my many reasons and theories that he is Alive is the AUTOPSY PICTURES.  They are using these in the trial and until I see the face, I just don't know what to believe!!!!  I understand ALL that is being said.  But what about the autopsy pictures.  Help me with that!!! /judge/<br />

<br /><br />No face was shown in those pictures. So it can be anyone. Even there was Michael's face in those, they could be photoshopped. Proves nothing imo.

hesouttamylife

One thing that always stands out to me is that when the family is talked about it is always stated that they “believe” he is dead.  If they saw him in the casket, etc., and had no “doubts” that who they were seeing was indeed Michael then why do they not say I “know" he is dead”. 

curls

Regarding the 'zombie drug' that this woman talks about in the video: I'm sure this was mentioned here ages ago in relation maybe to Elvis????  Did he know of or in fact take a drug that can make you appear dead???  I'm pretty sure I haven't just made that up!!<br /><br />

MJonmind

You know how in the story/movie of the Lord of the Rings, Frodo is bitten by the giant spider, and becomes like the dead.  Sam indeed thinks he's dead and is weeping, until he hides and overhears the orks talking amongst themselves how when the spider bites someone it only appears they are dead, and they will after a bit of time come alive/conscious again, but the spider wraps them up in her websilk only to come back later to digest them. Could this lady's story be a clue from MJ, that another scenario that TS was wanting us to explore was that the body in the ambulance and at the hospital was a dead-like zombie Michael wrapped in the white sheet like the spidersilk, only to recover in the time-frame for that certain drug he would have to take to have this happen.  Michael did in fact get bitten by a spider, and in TII he climbs out of a spider, so is there something being hinted at here? IDK  Also in PPB's little video it seems the good doctor makes a zombie out of the MJ (Blanket)!

fordtocarr

Day before the trial.  The network covering it is HLN.  It's on all day today.  Jane Velez Mitchell covering it...  She so hates Michael, you can tell.  Everyone they bring on, she slyly acts as though it's the doc wrong, but maneuvers the conversations to always imply that it's Michael in the wrong...or bringing up the past with Michael.  We can sure see why Michael is doing this.  She better watch out or she'll be getting death threats too like Nancy Grace, from all the unbelievers!!  She makes me cry from being upset although I know the truth.  I can't shut it off though, ...you understand....  and now I hear there are fans on the jury???  What's being set up here?  <br />

Mish1981

I was watching HLN earlier this evening and found it extremely weird for her to openly admit that she's a recovering alcoholic. I don't think I have ever heard of something like this from anyone else in the "news" world. She was also saying how unless it was a life and death matter when people are addicts they shouldn't take anything it doesn't matter what their addiction was. I'm going back and forth on this.  While I agree to a certain degree, I also think it takes will power and determination, both I think MJ has. 

BeTheChange

They just laughed at us beLIEvers on HLN    <br /> <br />The phrases "wait for it" and "having the last laugh"...have never been more true, nor more exhilarating  <br /> <br />13 hours til showtime!<br /> <br />With L.O.V.E. always.

finfin

Twiggy @MJHOAXLIVE tweeted this pic that appears to show the girl called Sharon in the video<br /><br />MJHOAXLIVE TWIGGY <br />https://twitter.com/#!/MJHOAXLIVE<br /><br />Check this out. Funeral after party picture. Isn't that Sharon top middle standing next to LaToya??? twitpic.com/6u6k1w<br /><br /><br /> <br />