Stuff that do not make any SENSE!

Integrity

Hi everyone,<br />I know CM was found guilty but I still in my heart & gut believe MJ is alive.<br />I have a few things that I wanted to share that just did not make since to me.<br /><br />1 Ms. Lee said she went to school on the internet and this took place in the 80's but a friend said to me there was no computers in the 80's.  written script!  OMG!  <br /><br />2 Why would MJ seek natural herbal remedies but when that did not work go to CM for help for insomnia? He could afford the best insomnia Doctor around! He was in Bahrain with his children for a few years? He made breakfast for them & they walked the beach & so on...WAS HE NOT SLEEPING THERE?  /scream/  /overreacting/<br /><br />3 Sorry but I do not see him drinking Red bull. He had a chef who was making fresh beet juice and healthy meals and there were cans & cans of Red Bull all over the house. It was all planted for the hoax in my opinion! /pull hair/<br /><br />4 KO Said on the stand that Michael had chills, fever he had to wrap him in  blankets and rub his feet & I believe this took place at 1 in the morning after they finished practicing!    <br />Why did he not take him to the hospital? WHY DID HE NOT CALL 911!! Who allows someone in that condition to go home like that & than go writes an email!! /overreacting/<br />WHO DOES THAT!!!!  /pull hair/<br />I feel I must be from another planet!! More hoax stuff to me! /overreacting/  /overreacting/<br /><br />5 The morning of June 25 where was the FOOD, HIS CHEF DID NOT SPEAK ABOUT ANY FOOD. So from early morning to noon someone was not only medicated to death but they were starved to death to... /overreacting/  /pull hair/ <br /><br />6 The same thing on May 10 when CM recorded MJ or an actor he supposedly was drugging & starving to death. But where was everyone? Where was his children at this time? Where was all of the chefs, body guards, & nanny? HOAX STUFF!!  /pull hair/<br /><br />7 MJ asked Faheem (I hope I spelled that right) to call Ms. Lee because he felt hot on side of his body & cold on the other. Michael is calling a nutrition health expert for that kind of a problem!!!<br /> /pull hair/  Who does that?????  But still she advises with urgency to GO TO THE HOSPITAL!! <br />WHY DID FAHEEM WHO HEARD HER SAY THAT NOT TAKE MJ TO THE HOSPITAL!!!!!I am in a MOVIE!! /pull hair/ /scream/ /overreacting/<br /><br />8 One of the ceo of the hospital was on the stand & he said the UCLA doctor told Mrs. Katherine Jackson that her son had passed away but she said on the Opera interview Dr. Murray told her!!<br /> /overreacting/ /pull hair/ /scream/ I am done & I am happy to say we have all been in a play together so I can't wait until the SECRET IS OUT OF THE BAG:)  <br /><br />Please respond! Need some clarification:) Thank you 

Aidan_81

Of course there were computers in 80s. Even us in USSR had them.<br />But I'm not sure about Internet schools in 80s  <br />In fact "popular", widespread commercial Internet "happened" in 90s and became very<br />usual thing worldwide in late 90s. <br /><br />Yes, the whole Lee storyline does not add up.

Integrity

Thank you Aiden;)<br />I knew we had computers but laptops, computer monitors were not being used in the home. <br />Internet schools were not available in that period!     

fordtocarr

I've been wanting to do a thread like this...basically one liners that don't have to have explanation, because we all know the explanations.  <br />Things that don't make sense or were left unexplained even in the trial.  I've been keeping them in my computer...<br /><br />Hot  "death' room<br />Bald?<br />Asian?<br />Cath in/and taken out when and by whom?<br />Paris earphone at memorial<br />Paris no tears at memorial<br />Lost security tapes and reappear ..erased?<br />Doc called joe FIRST...Joe said day after death then story disappeared<br />Murray’s car/sisters car<br />Murray disappeared for day<br />People in..took pillow/notes<br />Back entrance an escape route<br />Paps in trees?<br />Said he lived there 6 mo/move in there when from when??<br />Iv in thigh/6” below knee<br />Track marks story..in neck<br />Blankets speech mistake<br />State seal stars<br />Clowns at court<br />Toys in court<br />His weight/height constantly changing<br />Tii doubles some thin<br />Voice double on Michael<br />Garbage cans<br />The brain??<br />Pepsi acc. Half way to death<br />Bloody shirt<br />Impossibilities of freezing a body so long<br />LaToya dressed him after weeks..<br />Karen dressed him<br />Witness in courtroom while not on stand, Dr. White<br />differences in bedroom pics...note put on TV!<br />MJ naked in bed, then pjs, all different clothing at hosp...coroner<br />All the "stuff" around the house...all over..<br />Can't get to bathtup!!!  <br />Trim in bath missing as though a dumpy house<br />cigarettes in "death" room<br />phones in courtroom..testing<br />The wig stories at the beginning of hoax..and missing nose!!<br />Where'd all the Carolwood stuff GO?  We saw moving vans...<br />Where's all his CARS?<br /><br />This could go on and on..and I'm sure I'll add to it...I hope you do too!!

simplyme

on 1320798103:

<br />Thank you Aiden;)<br />I knew we had computers but laptops, computer monitors were not being used in the home. <br />Internet schools were not available in that period!      <br />

<br />Clatyon College Of Health had been around for a long time.  They recently closed.  I almost went there myself once.  As with all schools like that you have to do some on site practicum so you have to plan to be away from home for a while.  They might not have been online when she took some classes [ note I said some - because that's what she said ] but they were proabably doing correspondence.

Heartsong

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<br />I've been wanting to do a thread like this...basically one liners that don't have to have explanation, because we all know the explanations.  <br />Things that don't make sense or were left unexplained even in the trial.  I've been keeping them in my computer...<br /><br />Hot  "death' room<br />Bald?<br />Asian?<br />Cath in/and taken out when and by whom?<br />Paris earphone at memorial<br />Paris no tears at memorial<br />Lost security tapes and reappear ..erased?<br />Doc called joe FIRST...Joe said day after death then story disappeared<br />Murray’s car/sisters car<br />Murray disappeared for day<br />People in..took pillow/notes<br />Back entrance an escape route<br />Paps in trees?<br />Said he lived there 6 mo/move in there when from when??<br />Iv in thigh/6” below knee<br />Track marks story..in neck<br />Blankets speech mistake<br />State seal stars<br />Clowns at court<br />Toys in court<br />His weight/height constantly changing<br />Tii doubles some thin<br />Voice double on Michael<br />Garbage cans<br />The brain??<br />Pepsi acc. Half way to death<br />Bloody shirt<br />Impossibilities of freezing a body so long<br />LaToya dressed him after weeks..<br />Karen dressed him<br />Witness in courtroom while not on stand, Dr. White<br />differences in bedroom pics...note put on TV!<br />MJ naked in bed, then pjs, all different clothing at hosp...coroner<br />All the "stuff" around the house...all over..<br />Can't get to bathtup!!!  <br />Trim in bath missing as though a dumpy house<br />cigarettes in "death" room<br />phones in courtroom..testing<br />The wig stories at the beginning of hoax..and missing nose!!<br />Where'd all the Carolwood stuff GO?  We saw moving vans...<br />Where's all his CARS?<br /><br />This could go on and on..and I'm sure I'll add to it...I hope you do too!!<br />

<br /><br />Amazing isn't it when you put it like this. Great job Fordtocarr. I have more...<br /><br />Murray stayed at house 6 days/wk but had to be called over on last night of rehearsals.<br />Death room was where Murray claimed to sleep yet it was where Michael was "put to sleep"<br />Murray does a doco to defend himself yet refuses to take the stand.<br />Media claims cause of death not proven, yet coroners report and toxicology prove propofol.<br />No demerol in blood yet media claiming addiction to demerol.<br />Murray walks free for 2 years plus leading up to trial yet now needs to be remanded for his own and public safety. <br />Reason for recording MJ.<br />Murray saying he was MJ's true friend then securing lawyers who clearly find MJ abhorrent.<br /><br />Most laughable moment: White pulling the IV line out of his pocket to give Flannagan after the prosecution claimed that is exactly what Murray did with it, lol.

GINAFELICIA

All of you are right.<br />And you, Michael Jackson, are BAD /pull hair/<br /><br />But I love you /white flag/

traceys_home

on 1320797131:

<br />Hi everyone,<br />I know CM was found guilty but I still in my heart & gut believe MJ is alive.<br />I have a few things that I wanted to share that just did not make since to me.<br /><br />1 Ms. Lee said she went to school on the internet and this took place in the 80's but a friend said to me there was no computers in the 80's.  written script!  OMG!  <br /><br />2 Why would MJ seek natural herbal remedies but when that did not work go to CM for help for insomnia? He could afford the best insomnia Doctor around! He was in Bahrain with his children for a few years? He made breakfast for them & they walked the beach & so on...WAS HE NOT SLEEPING THERE?  /scream/  /overreacting/<br /><br />3 Sorry but I do not see him drinking Red bull. He had a chef who was making fresh beet juice and healthy meals and there were cans & cans of Red Bull all over the house. It was all planted for the hoax in my opinion! /pull hair/<br /><br />4 KO Said on the stand that Michael had chills, fever he had to wrap him in  blankets and rub his feet & I believe this took place at 1 in the morning after they finished practicing!    <br />Why did he not take him to the hospital? WHY DID HE NOT CALL 911!! Who allows someone in that condition to go home like that & than go writes an email!! /overreacting/<br />WHO DOES THAT!!!!  /pull hair/<br />I feel I must be from another planet!! More hoax stuff to me! /overreacting/  /overreacting/<br /><br />5 The morning of June 25 where was the FOOD, HIS CHEF DID NOT SPEAK ABOUT ANY FOOD. So from early morning to noon someone was not only medicated to death but they were starved to death to... /overreacting/  /pull hair/ <br /><br />6 The same thing on May 10 when CM recorded MJ or an actor he supposedly was drugging & starving to death. But where was everyone? Where was his children at this time? Where was all of the chefs, body guards, & nanny? HOAX STUFF!!  /pull hair/<br /><br />7 MJ asked Faheem (I hope I spelled that right) to call Ms. Lee because he felt hot on side of his body & cold on the other. Michael is calling a nutrition health expert for that kind of a problem!!!<br /> /pull hair/  Who does that?????  But still she advises with urgency to GO TO THE HOSPITAL!! <br />WHY DID FAHEEM WHO HEARD HER SAY THAT NOT TAKE MJ TO THE HOSPITAL!!!!!I am in a MOVIE!! /pull hair/ /scream/ /overreacting/<br /><br />8 One of the ceo of the hospital was on the stand & he said the UCLA doctor told Mrs. Katherine Jackson that her son had passed away but she said on the Opera interview Dr. Murray told her!!<br /> /overreacting/ /pull hair/ /scream/ I am done & I am happy to say we have all been in a play together so I can't wait until the SECRET IS OUT OF THE BAG:)  <br /><br />Please respond! Need some clarification:) Thank you  <br />

<br /><br />Add this to your list....<br /><br />The Great Seal of the State of California in that courtroom had 32 stars on it. Every courtroom I have ever been in has 31 stars...since California was the 31st state added to the Union/USA.<br /><br />Fake Trial...this is why nothing makes sense  /judge/  WTF??  OMG!<br /><br />

curls

Nice lists peeps!

iamamjbeliever

do you mean "sense"?

suspicious mind

this reminds me . where is the question list? did we get any answers or just new questions? /pull hair/

Sweetangel

Hello everyone,<br /><br />according to TMZ they choose the Juros out of 84 (12x7) people. 7 of them<br />are mens. 7 of them are Michael Jackson Fans. We have heard 49 ((7x7) Witnesses. Dr Shafer said that Dr. Murray did 17 things wrong. And at least we got the Verdict on 7 November at 1.17 pm.<br /><br />How many proofs do you need, that this is a Hoax.<br /><br />IF that is true that there are 7 Michael Jackson Fans among the Jury could this be the Key that Dr Murray will walk free, because a fair Trial isn't guranteed.<br /><br />Much Peace and Love to everyone.<br /><br /><br /><br /><br />

Australian MJ BeLIEver

hey all... we should start working on all these questions....<br /><br />any suggestions...<br /><br /><br />@ ford... what do you mean, asians? have i missed something.<br />

fordtocarr

on 1321890925:

<br />hey all... we should start working on all these questions....<br /><br />any suggestions...<br /><br /><br />@ ford... what do you mean, asians? have i missed something.<br /><br />

<br /><br />At first it was reported that the medics thought he was a bald asian man....<br />although it's one of the stories I can't find anymore...<br />like the one where Joe said that Murray called HIM first before anyone when he found Michael unconscience.<br />That one I heard him saying however...

Raikiramari

I have some more to add to your list: <br /><br />1: No open Casket <br />2: Latoya going back to Michael's body.<br />3: Latoya not being sure on the identity of Michael's body.<br />4: The "Illusionist" qoute Latoya gave out (Wow, everything is centered around Latoya and Jermaine) <br />5: Michael's middle name being 'Joseph' <br />6: Why out of all the pictures taken of Michael Jackson's body was there only two shown in court? I thought all evidence was to be used? <br />7: The Holiday 'Themes' inside the Courtroom. <br />8: retesting for toxicology reports.<br />9: Mrs.Fleak destroying her notes.<br />10: Unexplained fingerprints from fleak on the tables. <br />11: No gloves whilst handling evidence/equipment in Court, only once. <br /><br /><br />I could go on and on....

Australian MJ BeLIEver

But some of this stuff does make sense.... i have replied in red.<br />

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<br />I have some more to add to your list: <br /><br />1: No open Casket - because mj wasnt in there.<br />2: Latoya going back to Michael's body. - too fool us and play hoax game.<br />3: Latoya not being sure on the identity of Michael's body. - again to cause us to question it all.<br />4: The "Illusionist" qoute Latoya gave out (Wow, everything is centered around Latoya and Jermaine) - directing us to clues in the movie.<br />5: Michael's middle name being 'Joseph' - legality that real mj didnt die on 25.6.09 <br />6: Why out of all the pictures taken of Michael Jackson's body was there only two shown in court? I thought all evidence was to be used? <br />7: The Holiday 'Themes' inside the Courtroom. - indicate court was fake<br />8: retesting for toxicology reports.<br />9: Mrs.Fleak destroying her notes. <br />10: Unexplained fingerprints from fleak on the tables. <br />11: No gloves whilst handling evidence/equipment in Court, only once. - again indicate a fake court...<br /><br />I could go on and on.... <br />

<br /><br />i am confused rai. you know all this stuff. is this thread supposed to be a collective list about thigs that people are still unsure of or have no answers for.<br /><br />sorry, perhaps its me who is confused abt the purpose of this thread.

fordtocarr

I thought it'd be a good idea to come up with little thoughts to list things that shout NOT RIGHT under a normal death. <br />Like, say when Elizabeth died.  None of these things were done.  Granted, it wasn't homicide, but, in a normal homicide (sure)<br />these things we list just wouldn't make sense, or even happen.<br />I think that if I were face to face with a non-believer, these are things I'd say that they'd have to respond to.  Things that point to<br />a hoax and are easy to see just don't add up.<br />I know we all know these things, and have about 1 million pages about each items on the list talked about in detail, but I really just hoped for a long long list we all could add to, glance at and say, "oh yeah...I remember that!"  Or "so explain how that could be!!"<br />;)<br /><br />I hope that makes it clearer.

Australian MJ BeLIEver

thanks ford... apologies rai...<br /><br />i clearly missed the point.  lolol/

Raikiramari

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<br />thanks ford... apologies rai...<br /><br />i clearly missed the point.  lolol/<br />

<br /><br />It's okay Aus!

voiceforthesilent

Hi - I didn't know where to post this but I thought it was really interesting and hadn't heard this before. Here goes:<br /><br />Thanks go to Justelinu on Youtube:<br /><br /> /><br /><br />If Michael Jackson was born on the 29th, Released a film called This Is It on the 26th And if the number 7 defines the Man himself and lastly if Michael Jackson really died on the 25th Riddle me this Why when these numbers are laid side by side 2926725 do you get Dr Conrad Murray's Prison number. Google #2926725 see what you get TMZ knows Have Fun<br /><br />So, we start with MJ's birth (29) then This Is It (26) Michael's Number (7) and his d**th (25). These numbers together equal CM's booking number. LOL.<br /><br />Inmate #2926725 may have gotten a visit from a couple of special ladies today ... when Conrad Murray's baby mama Nicole Alvarez (above left) AND his own mother (below left) rolled over to Men's Central Jail to check in on the doc.<br /><br />Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2011/12/08/conrad-murray-you-have-a-couple-of-female-visitors/#ixzz25KFMBy4X<br /><br />http://www.tmz.com/2011/12/08/conrad-murray-you-have-a-couple-of-female-visitors/<br /><br /><br />Be blessed and keep the faith

Souza

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<br />Hi - I didn't know where to post this but I thought it was really interesting and hadn't heard this before. Here goes:<br /><br />Thanks go to Justelinu on Youtube:<br /><br /> /><br /><br />If Michael Jackson was born on the 29th, Released a film called This Is It on the 26th And if the number 7 defines the Man himself and lastly if Michael Jackson really died on the 25th Riddle me this Why when these numbers are laid side by side 2926725 do you get Dr Conrad Murray's Prison number. Google #2926725 see what you get TMZ knows Have Fun<br /><br />So, we start with MJ's birth (29) then This Is It (26) Michael's Number (7) and his d**th (25). These numbers together equal CM's booking number. LOL.<br /><br />Inmate #2926725 may have gotten a visit from a couple of special ladies today ... when Conrad Murray's baby mama Nicole Alvarez (above left) AND his own mother (below left) rolled over to Men's Central Jail to check in on the doc.<br /><br />Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2011/12/08/conrad-murray-you-have-a-couple-of-female-visitors/#ixzz25KFMBy4X<br /><br />http://www.tmz.com/2011/12/08/conrad-murray-you-have-a-couple-of-female-visitors/<br /><br /><br />Be blessed and keep the faith <br />

<br /><br />This Is It was released on October 28, not 26.

suspicious mind

far as i am concerned all of the other deaths since are kinda weird.<br />two suicides<br />i know that for liz and frank we were sort of given the impression they were either frail or not all that healthy (couple heart attacks) but really?

voiceforthesilent

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on 1346598651:

<br />Hi - I didn't know where to post this but I thought it was really interesting and hadn't heard this before. Here goes:<br /><br />Thanks go to Justelinu on Youtube:<br /><br /> /><br /><br />If Michael Jackson was born on the 29th, Released a film called This Is It on the 26th And if the number 7 defines the Man himself and lastly if Michael Jackson really died on the 25th Riddle me this Why when these numbers are laid side by side 2926725 do you get Dr Conrad Murray's Prison number. Google #2926725 see what you get TMZ knows Have Fun<br /><br />So, we start with MJ's birth (29) then This Is It (26) Michael's Number (7) and his d**th (25). These numbers together equal CM's booking number. LOL.<br /><br />Inmate #2926725 may have gotten a visit from a couple of special ladies today ... when Conrad Murray's baby mama Nicole Alvarez (above left) AND his own mother (below left) rolled over to Men's Central Jail to check in on the doc.<br /><br />Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2011/12/08/conrad-murray-you-have-a-couple-of-female-visitors/#ixzz25KFMBy4X<br /><br />http://www.tmz.com/2011/12/08/conrad-murray-you-have-a-couple-of-female-visitors/<br /><br /><br />Be blessed and keep the faith <br />

<br /><br />This Is It was released on October 28, not 26.<br />

<br /><br />Well - shoots that one. Seems like 26 is a significant number. I guess I had better go in search of why.<br /><br />Blessings.

voiceforthesilent

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on 1346598651:

<br />Hi - I didn't know where to post this but I thought it was really interesting and hadn't heard this before. Here goes:<br /><br />Thanks go to Justelinu on Youtube:<br /><br /> /><br /><br />If Michael Jackson was born on the 29th, Released a film called This Is It on the 26th And if the number 7 defines the Man himself and lastly if Michael Jackson really died on the 25th Riddle me this Why when these numbers are laid side by side 2926725 do you get Dr Conrad Murray's Prison number. Google #2926725 see what you get TMZ knows Have Fun<br /><br />So, we start with MJ's birth (29) then This Is It (26) Michael's Number (7) and his d**th (25). These numbers together equal CM's booking number. LOL.<br /><br />Inmate #2926725 may have gotten a visit from a couple of special ladies today ... when Conrad Murray's baby mama Nicole Alvarez (above left) AND his own mother (below left) rolled over to Men's Central Jail to check in on the doc.<br /><br />Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2011/12/08/conrad-murray-you-have-a-couple-of-female-visitors/#ixzz25KFMBy4X<br /><br />http://www.tmz.com/2011/12/08/conrad-murray-you-have-a-couple-of-female-visitors/<br /><br /><br />Be blessed and keep the faith <br />

<br /><br />This Is It was released on October 28, not 26.<br />

<br /><br />Well - shoots that one. Seems like 26 is a significant number. I guess I had better go in search of why.<br /><br />Blessings.<br />

<br /><br />The person must have meant the album and not the movie:<br /><br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Jackson's_This_Is_It_(album)&lt;br /><br />Michael Jackson's This Is It (album)<br />From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia<br />Jump to: navigation, search<br />Michael Jackson's This Is It<br />Soundtrack album by Michael Jackson<br />Released October 26, 2009<br />(see Release history)<br />Recorded 1978–2009<br />Genre Pop, R&B, new jack swing, funk, rock, soul, hip hop<br />Length 78:04 (Disc 1)<br />14:24 (Disc 2)<br />92:28 (Total)<br />Label Epic<br />Producer Michael Jackson<br />John McClain[1]<br />Michael Jackson chronology<br />The Remix Suite<br />(2009) This Is It<br />(2009) Michael<br />(2010)<br /><br />The Music That Inspired the Movie Michael Jackson's This Is It (or simply This Is It) is a posthumous two-disc soundtrack album by American recording artist Michael Jackson. Released by Epic Records on October 26, 2009, This Is It features previously released music, as well as six previously unreleased recordings by Michael Jackson. This Is It was released to coincide with the theatrical release of Michael Jackson's This Is It, a concert film documenting Michael Jackson's rehearsals for the This Is It concert series at London's O2 Arena. This Is It is the sixth album to be released by Sony and Motown/Universal since Michael Jackson's death in June 2009.<br /><br />This Is It debuted at number one in fourteen countries, including the United States, Canada, Japan, Italy and France. Aside from charting at number 11 in Finland, This Is It peaked within the top 10 of the charts in other nations. This Is It has been certified Gold, Platinum, and twice-Platinum in multiple countries. This Is It was the twelfth best selling album of 2009 in the United States and the third best selling album of 2009 based on worldwide sales. The title track from the album, "This Is It", earned Michael Jackson a Grammy Nomination in 2011 for Best Male Pop Vocal Performance at the 53rd Annual Grammy Awards.