Immortal Tour - Oakland IS MICHAEL SINGING LIVE????

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  • gwynnedgwynned Posts: 1,361
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    <br />Atleast, I saw the show yesterday. It was awesome! Totally rollercoaster of emotions, the whole scale. And it had so obviously Michael's handmark allover.  It was the best show I've seen in my entire life.<br /><br />But to the hoax point of wiev: in smooth criminal headlines I picked up one haedline wich flashed quite quickly. It was something like "I will be back, BUM".<br /><br />Another thing that I found very intresting was that in Will you be there was again that version where Michael was singing PainS. And after the son word BELIEVE appeared to the screens and Michaels signature <3  The Liberian girl picture (Michael behind television camera) was a little question mark for me if I woulnd't have wathced the show with the hoax on my mind. I also noticed that the singers were far to see and the hologram didn't show michaels face clearly (it felt purposefull).<br /><br />Hey, the elephants were also participating the show! I felt This Is It, and this is not it yet. I also question that there were used a lot this is it videomaterial -would it be ok (in leagual ways and so on) if Michael wasn't in this porject?<br />
    <br /><br />Nice to have someone reaffirm my observations!  Yes, that hologram was strange.  Funny how Tupac's "hologram" showed him dancing, singing, etc in such detail and the Cirque 'hologram' was so 2000 and late from a technical standpoint.  Why is no one outside the hoax pointing this out?  Cirque clearly goes for the best, yet they would settle for such a ghostly imitation?  <br /><br />Is there a meaning behind the ghostly appearance?  Clearly it's intentional.<br /><br />And why ARE those singers so far away.  They needn't be that far away to stay out of harm's way. 
  • MJonmindMJonmind Posts: 7,290
    Gwynned, I just want to tell you how much I enjoyed your description of the show and your daughter's reactions etc.  Heaven, huh?  :icon_lol: That's how I've felt countless times here on the site, so I can only imagine. :woohoo2:  I am very embarrassed and disappointed to say that when CDS came to my city near the beginning of the tour last year I think, I didn't go--because I had no one interested to go with me, and mostly because I felt since it wasn't MJ himself, that I would just be disappointed.  Now after all the testimonies I am soooooooo sorry. But all my own fault.  Anyway, I had tears reading what you wrote.  Just a question: I've read somewhere that the tree on stage was actually more something evil/symbolic, a symbol of the goat-headed Baphomet, a ram/goat, god Pan, etc.  http://michaelsguardian.blogspot.ca/p/lie-la-lie-part-iv-second-coming.html    http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False Religions/Wicca &amp; Witchcraft/pentagram.htm&lt;br />Did you get any sense of a lot of Illuminati symbolism there, since I don't believe MJ would have anything to do with that except exposing evil, and sometimes I think that some people look for evil so intently that they interpret even good things in an evil way. What are your thoughts?
  • shortyshorty Posts: 211
    Hi guy`s, i go in two weeks to the Show here in Germany and i`m so excited.Can`t wait.<br />Will tell you what i saw, hear or something else.<br />Thank you for all youre experience. <br /> :penguin:<br /><br />
  • hi guys!<br /><br /> i just came home from the show and it was really emotional, at least for me.. Michael really was there, his spirit was all over the place. Yes, i DID feel it.. wow. It is like kenny said in TII; "the dancers in a Michael Jackson show ARE an extension of Michael Jackson, they are an extension of the man himself.." well in this case the whole crew was.. This show was definitely something he would create.. the message, the love, the way the injustice was brought forward and dealt with, the healing, the magic, the unity, the wonder, the child-like amazement...  The Army of Love, marching with the glowing hearts.. whoa.. some parts were just super powerful.. And all the things you guys have already pointed out, stood out for me too..<br /><br />The random shot of Liberian girl with Mike behind the camera was something that made me go mmmmm. and the Smooth Criminal headlines 'This ain't over yet' etc.. When Will You Be There came I saw many people crying and standing up and since i went to a show that was on in the afternoon it was so heartwarming and brilliant to see so many children there.. a new generation of MJ-fans, holding hands with their mothers and feeling the vibes and I tried figuring out just who's comforting who when tears were running down their faces.. It was incredible, a place full of Michael-LOVE, it would have been a very healing experience with or without the show, to feel such strong support for him, loving people gathered together in his name for his love and legacy. It must have been so exciting for the kids with the Thriller parts and all..  :icon_e_smile:  Both grown-ups and kids alike were getting very emotional during Will you be there and I did cry myself.. more than anything i guess just out of the enormous amount of LOVE that was being radiated around the arena.. but even as a believer i do get emotional with MJ. just the thought of him having to go through all that bs he did, with the world crucifying him. sometimes i wish i could take some of that load off of his shoulders and his heart. Carry the pain in mine instead. but i'm sure all of us would and he feels that, so in a sense, i guess, we are making it a little bit better. It just gets to me every time i think about it.. and here in this context the song Childhood sounded different than ever before, feels like this is all a part of the wrongs--->right -process.. but yeah, It was almost like you could feel him there, it wasn't an MJ show, but it was definitely the next best thing and I can't shake the feeling of him having everything to do with this.. The vocals on some, if not all, the songs did indeed sound 'live' or if not 'live' well.. different. I know my Michael songs and even with the vocals stripped out of all instruments and whatnots some of these were NOT the vocals we know.. It could be that they have been granted permission to use Mike's collection of different demo versions of the songs or whatever... but it did sound fresh and mature and it was real. I've seen Mike live a couple of times, just outside his hotel and at an MJ day event in London a loooong time ago, but the feeling was the same. You can't quite explain it but it goes under your skin, you feel it in your core, in the cores of your cells, the tingling emotion of being in the presence and in awe of something Great.. and that feeling was here tonight.  :moonwalk_: indeed the word 'believe' was written on the screens.. the painS version as well.. and what got my attention was when Will you be there was on and I was crying myself I was hoping please, please don't end like this, I don't want to leave here crying.. and how was Will You Be There answered? By I'll be There that was on next.  :bowdown: It got me laughing.. Will you be there? Yes I will be there.  :icon_exclaim: the human nature part with the flowing and glowing bodies and the shooting stars.. wow, beautiful.. <br /><br />and many things from TII definitely.. The glow-in-the-dark suits and all the techniques used in the costumes, the Dirty Diana girl (she was amazing).. During the break some of the dancers came out to dance among the audience and get people shouting 'michael, michael'  and they took some youngsters from the crowd and started doing the choreograph to Thriller and it was so funny when these girls (and a boy) already knew it perfectly and danced with them and hugged them with everybody cheering and showing love.. Wow. I'm all showered with emotion. Hope everyone is doing great tonight. and thank you dear michael for the show. for the music. Love to all.  :bearhug:<br /><br />edit: There was something during Scream that got my attention as well.. The part where Janet sings oh my god can't believe what i saw as i turned on the tv this evening, i was disgusted by all the injustice.. and Michael says 'ALL THE INJUSTICE' here he said something else as well. and it was loud and clear, nothing special but i just knew right away that it's not on the song.. It might have been like OH MY GOD or something-something-God, i think. It was sooo good to hear his voice loud and clear in the spoken section of the show... but yeah, something about Scream, listen you guys when you go see the show.
  • shortyshorty Posts: 211
    WOW...thank you Santiago for youre experience from the Show.<br />I read that and i was crying. So glad that you feel the spirit of MJ<br />being there, i hope for myself that i can feel the same as you.<br /> :bearhug:<br />love you all
  • JosJos Posts: 360
    @santiago wow,... just wow! Thanks!<br /><br />You know when you wrote:<br /><br /> ".. a new generation of MJ-fans, holding hands with their mothers and feeling the vibes and I tried figuring out just who's comforting who when tears were running down their faces.. "  <br /><br />I just could see how that must be looked like. Just Amazing!
  • ToveTove Posts: 75
    Thanks Santiago, you write very well!<br /><br />One thing I noticed was before the show, the tree was interresting but I thought it was a tree from neverland where Michael used to compose (allthough it didn't felt like a right answer). In the sides of the arena were two very simple sybolisms which i didn't regognize and under them were word infinity. In the beginning of the show there were pointed some lights to the stage, they seem something like bam's day symbol but can't tell for sure. It will be so intresting when this comes to dvd, but ofcourse they can cut it however they like. <br /><br />The live band was awesome, and it was nice to see that the drummer was same that Michael have used before (maybe other musicians also?). I just wonder, why did tey have that live band -it wouldn't be necessary if the music comes playback or you know what i mean. I was also so happy when after Will you be there came I'll be there :D<br /><br />One thing that amazed me was the horrible moonwalk the great dancers did. I'm sure they could do so much better, my first moonwalk was even better. Why did they do it so bad? Did it have some message or meaning?
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  • Beautiful post about your amazing experience, Santiago! Thanks! During the show I felt Michael's spirit and L.O.V.E. vibe too. You described the clues/signs very well. I can recall some clues but some I can't, probably because everyone interprets the show differently, which is interesting. I love to read the reviews. I'm sure that the more you see a show the more clues will be caught. Anyway, the heart touching MJ vibe is obvious.<br /><br />LOVE  :bearhug:
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