<br /><br />Here below , are some historic facts about Romania, that I thought relate somehow to MICHAEL.... and you'd probably be interested to read!<br />QUOTE from this site: http://www.astrologyweekly.com/astrology-articles/history-of-romania.php<br /><br /><br />[size=12pt]A sketch of the history of the Romanian people<br />The origins[/size]<br /><br />As a non-migrating people, the Romanians were traditionally a people of farmers and shepherds. The roots of this people go far back in human history, well into the European prehistory, very old mines and other archaeological elements of civilization having been found on this territory. <br /><br />
[size=10pt]For instance, an artifact (a clay tablet) found in Romania<br /> represents the 1st written message in the history of the mankind, <br />dated 5100-5300 BC (more than 1500 before than the Sumerian civilization).[/size]
<br /><br />The recorded ancestors were the Dacians, who formed a powerful and rich country, a threat and a strong rival of the Roman Empire. <br />In 106 AD, after several battles the Romans managed to conquer a part of Dacia, including the capital which they destroyed, captured a huge fortune and got control of its rich mines and other natural resources. [...]Dacia remained a part of the Roman Empire for 171 years.<br /><br />For the next hundreds of years, successive waves of migratory peoples passed over this territory, fought its inhabitants and were eventually assimilated.<br />This situation impeded however the formation of the 3 main Romanian principalities:<br />1. Moldavia, <br />2. Walachia and<br />3. Transylvania until the Middle Age (the latter under Hungarian or Austrian occupation until 1918).<br /><br />[ . . . ]<br /><br />A special moment in Romanian history was in May 1600 , when one of the <br />greatest Romanian leaders -[size=10pt]MIHAI Viteazul[/size] (translated: [size=10pt]MICHAEL the Brave[/size]), <br />managed to unite the 3 main Romanian principalities<br /> (Walachia, Transylvania and Moldova) in a single state. <br /><br />However, this union didn’t last long due to political conflicts with the surrounding countries and other strong interests. It represented however a breakthrough and [size=10pt]MICHAEL[/size]the Brave is considered as one of the greatest national heroes.<br /><br />[ . . . .]<br /><br />Conclusions<br />In summary, Romania’s historical destiny is that of a people, formed in the geographic area surrounding the Carpathian Mountains, trying to defend themselves against inimical nations permanently threatening its territory.<br />There were no offensive wars in 2000 years of recorded history. - which stands as testimony for the peaceful character of the Romanian people, with no ambitions whatsoever of conquering other people’s territories, but only to preserve its national identity and territory.<br />[....]<br /><br />
<br />This is [size=10pt]MIHAI Viteazul[/size]<br /> ([size=10pt]MICHAEL the Brave[/size])<br /><br /><br /><br />[size=12pt]^^ This Made me think of Michael's photos <br />dressed like a Prince/King from ages ago!<br />Their clothes resemble A LOT !! [/size] <br /><br /><br /><br />
<br />OMGosh.....emulik! That video is the most adorable ever......I love it! It's so heartwarming...thank you so much! Lives in a castle.....the stuff fairytale dreams are made of.....for sure. Thank you so much for the post...it's amazing!<br /><br />I had a feeling you had chess pictures Sim, lol. I remember seeing them, but couldn't remember if it was one big montage, or spread over a few......thank you so much for posting it here.....they are awesome! <br /><br />You guys are amazing with your posts and finds.....I truly appreciate you!<br />Have a beautiful day!<br />LOVE<br />
<br /><br />you are very welcome Wishingstar yes, that video is wonderful...father and son playing and talking it is just amazing how Michael have raised his children.<br /><br />@MJonmind..you are right, Prince is adorable there, I love his cute voice in the video
<br />Ok, this is a just for fun post:<br /><br />Regarding the numerous WATER references in this thread and Michael's hoax in general, <br />I thought you'd be interested to know, that Romania has the shape of a fat FISH with a small posterior flipper that "comes" out of the Black SEA when you look at it on the map!<br /><br />And taking into account that the Romanian mountains are full of GOLD, I think I may call my country The GOLDen FISH lol <br /><br />I wonder if we can make wishes to this "Gold Fish"!? lol Will it fulfill our wishes?? <br /><br /><br />
<br /><br />thank you Sim..you are really better than Discovery channel and others.. ;D I mean that for real, I have learned so much from your findings..thank you so much!! /bravo/
@emulik: thank you very much! I am glad if you learned so much from me.<br />These are not exactly my findings. What I post in this thread are historic facts, more precisely, my knowledge about Romania and its history... a selection of it, I select those things that relate more or less to Michael and the hoax.<br />Since Pearl insisted 3 times on Romania in that live chat, I think there's something we need to CONNECT to the hoax! She said the castle, but until now... the "castle theory" is not really standing!<br />Then what is it then?? What's up with Romania in relation to Michael that we must find out??<br /><br /><br />
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<br />@Sim......strange stuff indeed smiley_spider<br />But, glad I could help put it into perspective better...it's so confusing at times.<br />I just don't what to make of the more random words or phrases. That first site I<br />used was taken down almost immediately after I posted about gematria the first time.<br />Then I went out and found this current site. Coincidence....perhaps....LOL, who knows!<br />Glad it interests you though......
Yeah!! it's really bizarre that the site went down after you talked about it! And there are NO coincidences! <br />Too many coincidences! Something's on with that!<br /><br /><br />
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Yes.....the fish thing....brilliant, just brilliant! The only other time I have wanted to be a fish was <br />after watching the old movie, "The Incredible Mr. Limpet" with Don Knots... lol.<br /><br /><br />Blessings
loll cute pic <br />I didn't see it... what's it about? in great lines?
^^ Maybe he got that badge in one of the 2 visits in Romania ? <br /><br />Anyways, if Michael happens to be in Transylvania, I'm getting ready to meet him, since I live in the area LOL.
<br />^^ Maybe he got that badge in one of the 2 visits in Romania ? <br /><br />Anyways, if Michael happens to be in Transylvania, I'm getting ready to meet him, since I live in the area LOL. <br />
<br />Me too!!! bounce/ bounce/<br />Michael we're waiting for you! Come out! moonwalk_/
This post below, has in my opinion, some connection to the latest tendency on the forum, the spiritual/religious discussions, most notably TS last post - THE SIGN.<br /><br /><br />[size=14pt]Spirituality in Romania[/size]<br />http://www.astrologyweekly.com/astrology-articles/spirituality-in-romania.php<br /><br />[size=12pt]Orthodoxy[/size]<br /><br />Spirituality is important for Romanians. Currently there is a rebound of spirituality in many forms, mostly organized religion (Orthodox Christianity), after being suppressed under the Communist regime.<br />People go to churches in large numbers, new ones being constantly built since 1989. <br />Bucharest is the European capital with the highest number of churches per 100,000 inhabitants. <br />There is even a village with a record-number of 26 churches, 1 church for each 11 families. <br />Historically, some ancient rulers had a habit of building a church or a monastery after winning an important battle, as a way to celebrate and thank God for the victory (all these are manifestations of Neptune on the MC).<br /><br />Recently (2007), a new building project started, a 140 year old dream, the building of a national cathedral in Bucharest. This very costly project (about 400 millions euros) will be located near another very prominent building, the People’s House (Casa Poporului), the second largest building in the world after the Pentagon (which is actually a complex of buildings).<br />Sure, the attachment to traditions is high, even when it comes to spirituality, as 87% of Romanian are Orthodox Christian.<br /><br />Other forms of spirituality<br /><br />The situation of Oriental forms of spirituality has particular aspects in Romania. <br />In 1982, after a scandal involving a group of Transcendental Meditation practitioners, persecuted since then by the Communist regime, the practice of yoga and other forms of spirituality originating from the Orient were forbidden, until the regime change in 1989 (a situation unique in the world).<br />Soon after, a yoga school was founded (the Spiritual Movement of Integration in the Absolute - MISA ) which grew and extended worldwide, becoming as the largest yoga school in Europe. This particular yoga school has been the subject of continual political harassment, culminating with the exile of its spiritual leader in 2004, who was granted political asylum in Sweden.<br /><br />[size=12pt]The spiritual future of Romania[/size]<br /><br />There have been prophecies by different mystics (Sadhu Sundar Singh, St. Seraphim of Sarov, others) on [size=12pt]a bright spiritual future of Romania, as the country allegedly chosen by God to start the re-spiritualization of the world, for its humbleness and peaceful character. <br /><br />Some have drawn a parallel between the huge building called the People’s House in the center of Bucharest and the biblical House of the Peoples described in the Apocalypse. [/size]<br /><br />[size=12pt]Pope John Paul II at his 1999 visit in Romania called this land "the Garden of the Mother of God".[/size]<br /><br />Sure, there is a tendency of every people to feel very special about themselves, and arguably this is also the case here. For the purposes of this article, it suffices to say that there is a certain Romanian messianism especially in different spiritual groups.<br /><br />[ . . . . ]<br /><br />A short glimpse in the past transits of Neptune’s cycle will help understanding why this upcoming conjunction is so important:<br /><br />- transiting Neptune in opposition with the natal Neptune and MC (1938-1941) – the culmination of an ultranationalist movement with a high emphasis on religion named the Iron Guard or [size=14pt]the Legion of the Archangel Michael[/size]; this political movement achieved forming a “national legionary” government in late 1940 during a crisis situation for the country, but overplayed their role and were forced out of the government after attempting a military coup.<br /><br />- transiting Neptune in trine with the natal Neptune and MC (1966-1968) – this represented the golden period of the Communist leader Nicolae Ceausescu (who ruled Romania between 1965-1989) when from a neutral position promoted international peace by ending Romania’s active participation in the Eastern Bloc military alliance named the Warsaw Pact and openly condemned the Soviet-lead invasion of Czechoslovakia of August 1968; also during the 1967 Israeli-Arab war, Romania was the only country in the Eastern Bloc to maintain diplomatic relations with both Israel and Arab states.<br /><br />- transiting Neptune in square with the natal Neptune and MC (1981-1982) – a scandal surrounding a transcendental meditation experiment to positively influence the mankind (the Maharishi effect) lead to the total ban of any Oriental-flavored forms of spiritual practice in Romania, including yoga and other meditation techniques.<br />- transiting Neptune in sextile with the natal Neptune and MC (1994-1996) – nothing in particular that comes to mind…<br /><br />This remains an open end article as it the future is certainly full of surprises and mainly unpredictable. The author of this article hopes improving and continuing it as his own understanding of this topic will improve.
[size=14pt]What do you guys think about THIS ?? [/size] smiley_spider <br /><br />
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<br /><br />No way LOL!!!<br />Sim I can NOT believe you're comparing MJ with Michael the brave lol. What's the next crazy idea? You are THIS close to prove that MJ was really born between Danube and Carpathians instead of Garry Indiana
@GINA: You misunderstand my posts... I am not comparing... I am emphasizing on connections, similarities, parallels...<br />I know Michael loved history and learning things about every place he went to! So probably he was particularly drawn to our country , precisely because of these things ^^<br />I am trying to put myself in his shoes, you see? I am trying to understand what attracted Michael to Romania.<br />What drew him so much to this place to the point where he would be willing to hide here, maybe??<br />
<br />^^ Maybe he got that badge in one of the 2 visits in Romania ? <br /><br />Anyways, if Michael happens to be in Transylvania, I'm getting ready to meet him, since I live in the area LOL. <br />
<br />You too ??? Are we neighbors ?<br />Maybe a crazy mikevirus is haunting Transylvania twisting our minds suspicious//...seems the four of us are all from this area WTF??
<br />@GINA: You misunderstand my posts... I am not comparing... I am emphasizing on connections, similarities, parallels...<br />I know Michael loved history and learning things about every place he went to! So probably he was particularly drawn to our country , precisely because of these things ^^<br />I am trying to put myself in his shoes, you see? I am trying to understand what attracted Michael to Romania.<br />What drew him so much to this place to the point where he would be willing to hide here, maybe??<br /><br />
<br /><br />But we are not sure he is here. It's only an assumption. I would love for him to be here but really, what are the odds ?<br />
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I don't know. Go ask Pearl Jr. why she mentioned the Romanian castle and Michael all together 3 times in her show.<br />Then we'll see what's crazy and what's not.
We do not really know what he felt about Romania. The same way we can dig aboput his conncetions with Germany for example. There were also speculations about Ireland. Why would Romania be more special to him?<br />Well if I think well he had quite a few people of Romanian origin who worked for him (Marcel Avram, Serban Ghenea, that coreographer - I don't know her name now...and maybe there were others I don't know) but this doesn't mean anything because MJ had people from all over the world collaborating with him.<br />And I know Marcel Avram said in an interview that Michael called him for This is it but he said he didn't wanted to have something to do with it. I thought that was suspicious at that time. Why he didn't wanted to have anything to do with This is it?
[size=14pt]Michael Jackson’s dance teacher was Romanian![/size]<br /><br />More than half a year after Michael Jackson’s death, information appear about the megastar that not many people know. Although he made history with his music and dancing, few people know that “King of pop” took ballet lessons from a Romanian.<br /><br />Irina Brecher Hamilton, most famous classical ballet teacher in Los Angeles, gave ballet lessons to Michael Jackson and his dancers for the tour “This is it”, according to Gazette Express.<br /><br />The proof appears in the documentary “Michael Jackson’s This Is It”, when, at minute 48, in the movie is a woman with strange accent which show the nine dancers how to make the correct movements that have consecrated Michael Jackson. Boys listen carefully the instructions and execute the orders given by the woman who barely reaches their shoulder. Although they were selected by Michael Jackson himself from almost 6,000 dancers, and although they are the best in the world, they obey the teacher’s instructions from whom they still have much to learn. The teacher is the Romanian Irina Brecher Hamilton, noone other than that the late king of pop music called her to work for him.<br /><br />“I saw you doing like that, the Russian style. Is this Russian? No. This is Russian. See the difference? “Says Irina in the film, while boys embarrass the way it exemplifies the authoritative professional ballet movements to men.<br /><br />Michael Jackson did not know she’s Romanian<br /><br />Irina Brecher Hamilton is a ballerina since nine years old and emigrated from Romania during the communist period. The Romanian related for Express Monitor how she got to be a ballet teacher for the King of pop, but also for his three children.<br /><br />It all happened because of her son Misha, who at just 15 years old began to dance in Aaron Carter’s tournaments, Janet Jackson, Beyonce and other international artists. [size=10pt]In 2009, however, Misha fulfilled his dream and got to dance with Michael Jackson.[/size]<br /><br />“One day, Aaron Carter said: “I have a gift for you”. Misha heard in the phone’s receiver: ‘Hi, this is Michael! I know you are on a tour and imitate my style. Do you want to dance for me?”, told Irina.<br /><br />It didn’t last long and Misha wrote a new career for Irina next to Michael, although the Romanian taught ballet in several U.S. states. It happened in May 2009 at a rehearsal, when Michael said he wanted lessons in classical ballet for his nine dancers. All turned to Misha and he understood that his mother is most appropriate.<br /><br />“It was me, the cameraman, Kenny Ortega and nine boys. Then Michael came and said: ‘I can not wait, I wanted to meet you’. Then embraced me. Nobody can understand what this man transmits, angelic generousity, a high spirit. You must see it to understand. Then he thanked Misha that he has brought me. Michael left after we finished”, recalled excited Irina.<br /><br />Soon after, the assistant choreographer came to her and told her that Michael was impressed and he wants to take private lessons for him and his children.<br /><br />Michael was in top form<br /><br />Unfortunately, the Romanian didn’t start the lessons with the megastar. The last months until the fatidical day of June 25, were busy with rehearsals. ”The film shows exactly the level at which we rehearsed. Misha was coming at 2 in the night exhausted and told me: “Do you think I could give less than 120% to Michael?” “After a day of rehearsal, they needed 24 hours to recover. Who doubted that Michael was in top form, was seriously mistaken. It was the maximum force. He was never feeling bad. Motivated and strong. An authentic artist. I studied him carefully. In my life I saw many artists, but Michael is like noone. It was an energy, a master beside him, and the world seemed more serene”, she describes Michael.<br /><br />The Romanian claims that “every gesture of Michael had a profound reason. He didn’t need words to convey a message.<br /><br />She found out from TV that Michael died<br /><br />When she and Misha found out that the megastar died, they felt that time stopped. The two attended the Memorial of the July 7 and the release of the documentary. Acquaintances were surprised when they saw the film because Irina had concealed its collaboration with the megastar.<br /><br />In ”This Is It” documentary appear, in fact, three persons of Romanian origin: Irina, her son, Misha, and also Edward G. Robinson, American actor best known for gangster roles. Misha (22 years) was Michael Jackson’s replica in the documentary and shot all scenes in two nights. Moreover, he also had the honor of opening documentary.<br /><br />http://thelegendarykingofpop.wordpress.com/2010/04/07/michael-jackson’s-dance-teacher-was-romanian/
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I don't know. Go ask Pearl Jr. why she mentioned the Romanian castle and Michael all together 3 times in her show.<br />Then we'll see what's crazy and what's not.<br />
<br />I think Pearl picked up the idea from the world wide web - because the idea is not new at all. It was mentioned from the very beginning on the Derek Clontz site. I know because I was there shortly after June 25th and there was said that MJ's in a castle in Romania or Hungary.<br />Of course another story was about a ROMANIAN double who suffered of a terminal illness and died instead of MJ. You remember it don't you? It was maybe the first thing I've read about HOW MJ hoaxed his death. Maybe that is true and that's why TS kind of sustained the corpse theory.<br />
<br />[size=14pt]Michael Jackson’s dance teacher was Romanian![/size]<br /><br />More than half a year after Michael Jackson’s death, information appear about the megastar that not many people know. Although he made history with his music and dancing, few people know that “King of pop” took ballet lessons from a Romanian.<br /><br />Irina Brecher Hamilton, most famous classical ballet teacher in Los Angeles, gave ballet lessons to Michael Jackson and his dancers for the tour “This is it”, according to Gazette Express.<br /><br /><br />http://thelegendarykingofpop.wordpress.com/2010/04/07/michael-jackson’s-dance-teacher-was-romanian/<br />
<br />Yes of course, I was talking about her. She is Romanian, Irina is a common Romanian name.
@GINA: I don't think any idea is crazy! They are just ideas...thoughts... observations!<br />I think nobody believes everything 100%. These are just essays, tries, attempts to find out the truth!<br />Nobody says this idea is 100% correct or that idea is 100% wrong... we can't know!<br />Until the moment of truth comes, it's good to take everything into consideration.<br /><br />Taking into consideration does NOT imply being CERTAIN! <br />I never said I was sure of anything.<br /><br />Oh yes: I am sure of one thing: both MJ & Elvis are alive! Not so sure if they both come back, though...<br /><br /><br /><br />
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<br />[size=14pt]Michael Jackson’s dance teacher was Romanian![/size]<br /><br />More than half a year after Michael Jackson’s death, information appear about the megastar that not many people know. Although he made history with his music and dancing, few people know that “King of pop” took ballet lessons from a Romanian.<br /><br />Irina Brecher Hamilton, most famous classical ballet teacher in Los Angeles, gave ballet lessons to Michael Jackson and his dancers for the tour “This is it”, according to Gazette Express.<br /><br />The proof appears in the documentary “Michael Jackson’s This Is It”, when, at minute 48, in the movie is a woman with strange accent which show the nine dancers how to make the correct movements that have consecrated Michael Jackson. <br />[....]<br />Irina Brecher Hamilton is a ballerina since nine years old and emigrated from Romania during the communist period. The Romanian related for Express Monitor how she got to be a ballet teacher for the King of pop, but also for his three children.<br /><br />It all happened because of her son Misha, who at just 15 years old began to dance in Aaron Carter’s tournaments, Janet Jackson, Beyonce and other international artists. [size=10pt]In 2009, however, Misha fulfilled his dream and got to dance with Michael Jackson.[/size]<br />[....]
I googled his name and I found a photo with him and Janet<br /><br /><br /><br /><br />
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