Do you think Harvey is in on it?

CaylagirlxxCaylagirlxx Posts: 18
edited January 1970 in General Hoax Investigation
I know this has probably already been discussed, but I'm too lazy to look through the threads to find it haha. So my question is...do you guys think Harvey Levin is in on the hoax? Because, I remember on one tmz live show, Harvey and one of the other producers were talking about a poll about mj faking his death, and then Harvey said "Hold on, I wanna tell you something come over here." And then he had the camera men turn his and the other producer's mics off. The cameraman followed them over to where they were standing and he was whispering in the guy's ear and they both satrted laughing. Then when they came back and sat down, their mics came back on and the producer guy said something like "wow........." I forget what he said because this happened a while ago.
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  • YouRnotAlone7YouRnotAlone7 Posts: 246
    Harvey is a very intelligent man.  I don't think he KNOWS knows.....but I think he really, really suspects.  Unless he just wants to stir up the pot and bring controversy.  Hard to say.
  • TinkTink Posts: 1,175
    I don't know WHO - but someone @ TMZ knows, and is able to sneak info in, between the lines.
  • CaylagirlxxCaylagirlxx Posts: 18
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    <br />I don't know WHO - but someone @ TMZ knows, and is able to sneak info in, between the lines.<br />
    <br /><br />How do you know for sure?
  • PureLovePureLove Posts: 5,891
    He definitely KNOWS! Remember what Latoya said about him. "Levin knows a lot more!"   :icon_e_wink:
  • GraceGrace Posts: 2,864
    In the wake of the hacking scandal in the United Kingdom, the FBI confirmed to CNN in July that it was taking a new look at the allegations of corporate espionage in the United States."We are aware of all the allegations against News Corp. including those publicized by public officials and we are looking into all of them," FBI spokesman Peter Donald told CNN.
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  • RKRK Posts: 3,019
    Yes.
  • voiceforthesilentvoiceforthesilent Posts: 5,485
    I agree - Harvey from the very beginning seemed to have more knowledge than he let on. And I think his "main" men also know. Remember "If Michael were dead now...uh, I mean, if Michael were alive now..." in one of the shows? I don't believe that was a dyslexic play on words.<br /><br />Blessings to you :)
  • TinkTink Posts: 1,175
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    <br />I don't know WHO - but someone @ TMZ knows, and is able to sneak info in, between the lines.<br />
    <br /><br />How do you know for sure?<br />
    <br /><br />Because SOMEONE there knew exactly what the side effects of being in close proximity to a real angel of God does to the human body...but posted it as a joke. Message was received, though I was peeved at first - I realized it was to make me feel better. Someone understands what happened to me, and I don't feel alone at all now.<br /><br />What I can tell you? NOTHING bad about Michael is true - except I don't know who's a bigger prankster - he or me.
  • SouzaSouza Posts: 9,400
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    <br />I don't know WHO - but someone @ TMZ knows, and is able to sneak info in, between the lines.<br />
    <br /><br />How do you know for sure?<br />
    <br /><br />Because SOMEONE there knew exactly what the side effects of being in close proximity to a real angel of God does to the human body...but posted it as a joke. Message was received, though I was peeved at first - I realized it was to make me feel better. Someone understands what happened to me, and I don't feel alone at all now.<br /><br />What I can tell you? NOTHING bad about Michael is true - except I don't know who's a bigger prankster - he or me.<br />
    <br /><br />What are you talking about lately? I can't follow you, sorry.<br /><br /><br />And yes, of course Harvey knows. If Harvey doesn't know then MJ is dead. And we all know that isn't true.

    "For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."

  • CaylagirlxxCaylagirlxx Posts: 18
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    <br />I agree - Harvey from the very beginning seemed to have more knowledge than he let on. And I think his "main" men also know. Remember "If Michael were dead now...uh, I mean, if Michael were alive now..." in one of the shows? I don't believe that was a dyslexic play on words.<br /><br />Blessings to you :)<br />
    <br /><br />Oh yeah I completely forgot about that :o
  • SouzaSouza Posts: 9,400
    Harvey called the MJ death hoax conspiracy a 'grassy knoll' theory. Harvey said a few weeks before that that he believed in the grassy knoll theory. Also, every time Harvey went on a holiday, the MJ stories kept coming. You know, it's too hard to explain to a newbie: you should have been here for three years to get what I mean, but Harvey knows.

    "For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."

  • blankieblankie Posts: 2,350
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    <br />He definitely KNOWS! Remember what Latoya said about him. "Levin knows a lot more!"   :icon_e_wink:<br />
    <br /><br /><br />Correct !!!  :icon_bounce: :icon_bounce:
  • SEHFSEHF Posts: 954
    keep asking him
  • SouzaSouza Posts: 9,400
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    <br />keep asking him<br />
    <br /><br />Keep asking who and what? Harvey if he knows? I drove Harvey nuts the first year, I'm letting the poor guy breathe now.

    "For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."

  • voiceforthesilentvoiceforthesilent Posts: 5,485
    Not only that but TMZ was the first one to officially release the death announcement to the world..and I believe it was before MJ was officially declared d**d (will need to go verify this as it's been awhile). Even so, they didn't put him in their RIP section and only did so after getting hounded about why it wasn't there. If they have believed their announcement, MJ would have been in the RIP right away like the others were.<br /><br />Then there was the sunflower shop and Harvey's connection to it - I believe it was one of his relatives that donated all of those flowers?<br /><br />I didn't follow TMZ before, and don't really now, except for Michael news but Harvey seems like a decent guy.<br /><br />Blessings
  • wishingstarwishingstar Posts: 2,927
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    <br />keep asking him<br />
    <br /><br />Keep asking who and what? Harvey if he knows? I drove Harvey nuts the first year, I'm letting the poor guy breathe now.<br />
    <br /><br />Breathe in his own time, so he can come back in when he's ready......LOL....<br /><br />Blessings
  • AndreaAndrea Posts: 3,787
    I kinda miss Harvey actually.  That first year with him was a lot of fun for us and for him as well I think.  The odd time I'll watch TMZ on TV but I just don't really get to see it that much.  The clues from TMZ were hot and heavy that first year and a bit.
  • AdiAdi Posts: 1,834
    Absolutely Harvey knows.
  • 2good2btrue2good2btrue Posts: 4,210
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  • MJonmindMJonmind Posts: 7,290
    Souza<br />
    Harvey called the MJ death hoax conspiracy a 'grassy knoll' theory. Harvey said a few weeks before that that he believed in the grassy knoll theory.
    <br /><br />Yes, and this pic is from that article.  Just look at MJ snickering.<br /><br />
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    <br />Michael Jackson -- Casket Mystery Solved | TMZ.com<br /><br />2good2btrue<br />
    "Raffles, John Branca and Harvey Levin are all working together."
    <br />Harvey knows, and JOE  KNOWS too!!
  • PureLovePureLove Posts: 5,891
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    <br />I kinda miss Harvey actually.  That first year with him was a lot of fun for us and for him as well I think.  The odd time I'll watch TMZ on TV but I just don't really get to see it that much.  The clues from TMZ were hot and heavy that first year and a bit.<br />
    <br /><br />Totally agree with you Andrea sis. I'm also missing TMZ and Harvey clues.
  • CaylagirlxxCaylagirlxx Posts: 18
    I will have to keep following up on Harvey, maybe I can ask him about it. I would LOVE to ask Paris, but my problem with that is, what if Michael actually is gone from us? That would tear her to pieces if I were to bring him up.....<br /><br />And I know this has nothing to do with TMZ, but I found this video (I'm sure most of you have seen by now) where people were recording at night in Paris and they were speaking French (obviously) and I understand French pretty well, and they ran into Michael and two of his bodyguards; when the girl sees Michael she says "A regarde Michael Jackson!" ("Look at Michael Jackson!")  And when she says that Michael covers his face, then the guy says "Non il set mort." (No, he died) and when the bodyguards saw the man recording them, he chased after them to get the camera, but the group of people escaped.<br /><br />Just go on YouTube and search "Michael Jackson alive in Paris" if you haven't seen it...I think it's him.
  • AndreaAndrea Posts: 3,787
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    <br />I kinda miss Harvey actually.  That first year with him was a lot of fun for us and for him as well I think.  The odd time I'll watch TMZ on TV but I just don't really get to see it that much.  The clues from TMZ were hot and heavy that first year and a bit.<br />
    <br /><br />Totally agree with you Andrea sis. I'm also missing TMZ and Harvey clues. <br />
    <br /><br />I used to rush home from work to watch TMZ Live those first few months after June 25th.  That was when you would just write a question in the comments section.  Harvey answered my question once and I was like  :icon_e_surprised:.  <br /><br /> :icon_lol:
  • sweetsunsetwithMJsweetsunsetwithMJ Posts: 2,626
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    <br />I will have to keep following up on Harvey, maybe I can ask him about it. I would LOVE to ask Paris, but my problem with that is, what if Michael actually is gone from us? That would tear her to pieces if I were to bring him up.....<br /><br />And I know this has nothing to do with TMZ, but I found this video (I'm sure most of you have seen by now) where people were recording at night in Paris and they were speaking French (obviously) and I understand French pretty well, and they ran into Michael and two of his bodyguards; when the girl sees Michael she says "A regarde Michael Jackson!" ("Look at Michael Jackson!")  And when she says that Michael covers his face, then the guy says "Non il set mort." (No, he died) and when the bodyguards saw the man recording them, he chased after them to get the camera, but the group of people escaped.<br /><br />Just go on YouTube and search "Michael Jackson alive in Paris" if you haven't seen it...I think it's him.<br />
    <br /><br />That video is not true I think they are french people recording a video to make fun of MJ being alive, they have probably read the news on the internet that Michael is alive and they try to make fun, I don't believe it, it's dark at night the man is not Michael and it's very coincidental to see MJ while recording a video, isn't it??  :icon_eek:
  • MJonmindMJonmind Posts: 7,290
    I still find this topic interesting, and think there is more that can be found. <br />Bottom line, I do think Michael is working together with Harvey.  MJ always hired/hires the best in their field.<br /><br />
    http://michaelsguardian.blogspot.ca/2010/08/what-we-dont-know-about-tmz.html<br />“Celebrity Justice was an American news show which ran from 2002 to 2005. It was produced by Harvey Levin Productions, and directed by Brad Kreisburg, and Rob Dorn for one episode in 2005. It was hosted by Holly Herbert and Carlos Diaz.” SourceInteresting to not that both Celebrity Justice and TMZ.com offices are located in the very same “Victory Studios” in L.A. using the very same photo of the building….<br /><br />Telepictures Productions: Produced The People’s Court in which Levin began as a commentating lawyer. Source Prince Al Walid is also involved in ownership of Warner Bros. and owned stock in Telepictures and AOL….<br /><br />What else I find surprising is Levin’s surprising approach to news about the celebrities in that he said he was more interested in the “mundane” everyday happenings with celebrities. I have noticed too, if you go back over reading, that the coverage since Michael’s death was reported by them that the coverage was more on the people surrounding Michael than any negativity on Michael himself.<br /><br />The comments if you scroll to the bottom of that link on mediabistro.com [size=12pt]suggest that Levin was Michael’s ally[/size]. How did this happen? …<br /><br />I did not find anything on Michael Jackson being covered on Celebrity Justice, but I did find references to Celebrity Justice commenting on lawsuits against several tabloids by various celebrities as was referenced on this website (little over halfway down). Source<br /><br />“Celebrity Justice reports the lawsuit says that the defendants, including the Enquirer and Morris, acted reprehensibly and must be punished before they callously destroy another private persons life in their race to profit and to sell tabloid magazines.”…<br /><br />This article was about a Dancer in Vancouver being accused of performing prostitution on Ben Affleck. Celebrity Justice reported on the case, condemning the “National Enquirer” for it’s use of unauthorized photo’s of a private person.<br /><br />Here was an interview with Harvey Levin, condemning the Juror in the Michael Jackson case who said he really thought Michael was guilty. Source <br /><br />[size=12pt]TMZ gets it’s start in November of 2005, AFTER Michael is acquitted[/size] of child molestation charges. (I still HATE that word). Before that Levin produces Celebrity Justice from 2002 until 2005, then starts up TMZ, essentially a tabloid . . . the very thing Celebrity Justice had a particular disdain for….<br /><br />So is Harvey Levin a good guy or a bad guy?<br /><br />Do you think the Jackson Family could be using TMZ as a press outlet to control the worst of the rumors about Michael, his children and his family?...<br /><br />Comments:<br />DavidAugust 28, 2010 at 4:01 AM<br />Bonnie, did you know that Harvey Levin is the reporter who broke the news that Evan Chandler and Dr. Mark Torbiner gave Jordie sodium amytal in May 1994? This was first reported nationally by Mary Fischer in her GQ article. Although Fischer didn't name Levin as the reporter who broke the story, Ray Chandler did mention him in his "rebutall" to her GQ article.<br /><br />jomc12August 30, 2010 at 10:48 AM<br />I wish I could remember where I read this, but didn't Harvey Levin discuss the Arviso's and their early con games regarding the son's cancer. I hope you can find it or I can remember. My mind is full of information from everywhere. :) My take is to follow TMZ, tabloid for sure, but Harvey bears watching. JMO
    <br /><br />Here’s a thread on Harvey, Celebrity justice, on Murray trial.<br />http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,19656.msg340191.html#msg340191<br /><br />Here’s his twitter:<br />http://twitter.com/HarveyLevinTMZ<br /><br />Lovely pics of MJ shopping 10/24/2008 titled “Jacko is Backo”.  <br />http://www.tmz.com/photos/2008/10/24/1422-jacko-is-backo/images/2008/10/24/29038-em-jay0018-full-jpg/<br /><br />Here Grace did some digging on TMZ partners and future.<br />http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,19310.msg334830.html#msg334830<br /><br /><br /><br /><br />
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