Part 2 : Arnold Klein..What really happend to Michael ( there is much much more)

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  • MJonmindMJonmind Posts: 7,290
    I believe we're going to have to get more settled and comfortable in the trenches for the long haul, long war, if we want to be the full/faithful/dependable support to Michael that he wants/needs/loves...<br />I've resigned myself to it, though initially I thought things were going to happen bang, bang, bang ending with a Bam. But that's when I was naive and clueless.  I'm still clueless! :icon_lol:  I just simply love Michael, that's all.
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    <br />I believe we're going to have to get more settled and comfortable in the trenches for the long haul, long war, if we want to be the full/faithful/dependable support to Michael that he wants/needs/loves...<br />I've resigned myself to it, though initially I thought things were going to happen bang, bang, bang ending with a Bam. But that's when I was naive and clueless.  I'm still clueless! :icon_lol:  I just simply love Michael, that's all.<br />
    <br /><br />So you don't think anymore Michael is coming back after the 4 years??
  • MJonmindMJonmind Posts: 7,290
    I'm just staying open, as long as the forum exists, and clues/connections to MJ continue to come. I don't think deadlines are productive, just lead to disappointment. That's just how I feel right now...
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    <br />I'm just staying open, as long as the forum exists, and clues/connections to MJ continue to come. I don't think deadlines are productive, just lead to disappointment. That's just how I feel right now...<br />
    May I say that I feel the same way?<br />All we can do is hope and pray that everything will come to light...
  • MJonmindMJonmind Posts: 7,290
    Something that caught my eye from his twitter/blog.<br /><br />
    But now the two veteran stars ? Debbie turns 75 herself on April Fool’s Day ? have been reconciled. The only notable absence from the party was Liz’s erstwhile close friend Michael Jackson, with whom she used to spend three hours a day on the telephone. However, she has, apparently, not spoken to him since he was tried for child molestation.<br />http://www.arnoldwklein.com/?p=2365
    <br /><br />So this suggests that Liz was not a true friend and rejected him after 2003, but according to this article that is not true. Here Liz defended him constantly after both allegations and trial, and she was Godmother to Prince and Paris.<br />http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/elizabeth-taylor-michael-jackson-hollywoods-odd-couple-now/story?id=13214580<br />He goes on to say some pretty nasty things about her, mean-spirited seems to me.<br /><br />Is he just bitter about all the horrible things that have been happening lately to him?<br />This is insane if true. Federal agents just robbed Klein of anything without any warrant? Or more twisted half-truths? :icon_e_confused:<br />http://www.arnoldwklein.com/?p=2356<br /><br /><br /><br />
  • RKRK Posts: 3,019
    The latest from Arnie's twitter is a video from Mr Wagener and a thinly disguised voice from a well known hoax believer. I'm glad he is at last getting some support.  <br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwfS_kSzt8E&list=<br />
  • 2good2btrue2good2btrue Posts: 4,210
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    <br />The latest from Arnie's twitter is a video from Mr Wagener and a thinly disguised voice from a well known hoax believer. I'm glad he is at last getting some support.  <br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwfS_kSzt8E&list=<br />
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    <br /><br />The thinly disguised voice is non-other than "Twiggy" from MJHOAXLIVE.  She has done another interview with Wagener where she also used "voice altering" methods to protect herself.  She claims she has  "lots of incriminating evidence" which she witnessed first hand.  She is starting to feel "Threatened"...thus the disguise.  This information could take many suspects down....<br /><br />http://mjhoaxlive.blogspot.com.au/<br /><br />Corrupt Officials Exposed: $30M Embezzlement Cover-up <br />Surrounding the Death of Michael Jackson.<br /> <br />Arnold W. Klein, MD  Posted on February 28, 2013 by AWKMD <br /><br />Silenced: Michael Jackson’s plastic surgeon Dr. Arnold Klein <br />speaks out against a bank fraud scandal involving California State <br />Officials & The Private Bank of California with new evidence.<br /><br />Dr. Arnold Klein filed for bankruptcy on January 20, 2011 <br />after obtaining legal counsel from his attorney David Neale <br />regarding how to re-claim the nearly $30 million that Klein <br />was embezzled from him by his employees Muhammad Khilji,<br />Jason Pfeiffer  with the help of Robert Lorsch through the <br />Private Bank of California. Neale is said to have assured <br />Klein that these adversarial cases would be heard in the courts<br /> and encouraged him to take action.<br /><br />To Klein’s dismay the cases were not heard, and have not been <br />in almost 3 years. For bankruptcy claims such as these, <br />the system is legally obligated to provide “due process of <br />(Federal) law.”<br /><br />“I am very much aware of the events surrounding Mr Jackson’s death,” <br />says Klein, “and (I) believe the fraudulent manner in which my <br />bankruptcy has been handled is based both on the bank fraud <br />committed by Private Bank and an attempt to prevent me from <br />disclosing information that I have concerning the death of <br />Michael Jackson.”<br /><br />Shortly after Klein filed for bankruptcy, it was revealed that the <br />case’s Judge, Richard Neiter, held stock in the Private Bank of California. <br />Klein states that, long before Neiter’s conflict of interest was discovered, <br />he had already bifurcated the cases such that to this day they have not <br />been heard.  In addition to this, Klein’s allegations describe Judge <br />Neiter’s selection of Bradley Sharp as Klein’s trustee to be based <br />on a “totally fraudulent loan” through the very same bank.<br /><br />“The manner in which the lawyers, trustees and Judges of this <br />court of law are closely aligned with this same fraudulent <br />financial institution brings the entire legal system into question,” <br />says Klein.  “For a Federal Court to be compromised in this manner… <br />is far more than a simple embarrassment: it is criminal.”<br /><br />Since the time of Bradley Sharp’s appointment as Klein’s trustee <br />it has come to light that Sharp has also been involved in questionable <br />activity with the Private Bank of California and ALSO HAS A <br />CLOSE RELATION WITH THE CHIEF EMBEZZLER <br />MUHAMMAD KHILJI APPEALING HIS RIGHT TO TESTIFY.<br /><br />In a recent interview, Klein as well as the Jackson family <br />call into question the authenticity of Michael Jackson’s last will <br />and testimate http://www.arnoldwklein.com/?p=2247  stating their <br />belief that it is a forgery. Klein insists he was with Jackson in <br />New York on July 7th 2002, the same day that the Will was <br />supposedly signed by Jackson in L.A. <br /><br />The executor of the will that was “signed” in L.A. was none other <br />than John Branca, who is also coincidentally a member of Private <br />Bank, holding two seats on the board.<br /><br />Klein suspects his cases for embezzlement were intentionally <br />silenced to avoid bringing any un-favourable attention to the <br />Private Bank of California or a further investigation of the details<br />surrounding the Will of Michael Jackson, it’s executor, and beneficiaries.<br /><br />Klein is now going public with his knowledge about Harvey Levin, <br />John Branca and Howard Weitzman who were working with the <br />allegedly fraudulent Will of Michael Jackson when they were <br />awarded $700M a year while Klein, a close friend of Jackson <br />and the Jackson family was left “penniless with (his) bill for <br />rebuilding Michael’s face never paid.” (Klein)<br /><br />Up to this point the breaking news concerning Klein and the <br />case of Jackson’s death has revolved around his declaring <br />bankruptcy and the details surrounding the fall from a luxurious lifestyle. <br />Completely neglected are the facts leading up to his bankruptcy, <br />his reason for filing and the corruption of powerful members of a <br />privately held institution: The Private Bank of California.<br /><br />Details of the Embezzlement http://www.arnoldwklein.com/?p=2395<br /><br />THE WILL OF MICHAEL JACKSON IS A FRAUD. http://t.co/rj7aIwHQLO<br /> Posted on February 21, 2013 by AWKMD <br /><br />THE GRAND CONSPIRACY OF MICHAEL JACKSON<br /> />
  • RKRK Posts: 3,019
    Hi 2good. Yes it was pretty obvious it was Twiggy's voice. I found it very interesting indeed that the same people were involved in Courtney Love's case, MJ's probate case and now Arnie's set up. <br />I think I can finally decide which side of the fence I place John Branca on now. Also, it was not twitter where I saw Arnie re- post this, it was his facebook account. Sorry for messing that up.  <br />
  • I was sure branca was a good guy. Now I'm not so sure.<br /><br />All I an say is keep talking Klein!
  • hesouttamylifehesouttamylife Posts: 5,393
    Branca has never been a good guy in my opinion and I have felt that he was envious of Michael and seemed/s to gloat in Michael’s “alleged” fall from grace.  Can’t stand him.
  • paula-cpaula-c Posts: 7,221
    If Twiggy feels threatened this should not be only on the internet, all this must reach the greatest number of people possible
  • ok first of all don't kill me for asking this but  does the will be being a fake have to make branca a bad guy?  doesn't it seem that the will is pretty much keeping everything in sort of a holding pattern? it has the kind of flaws in that make people ask questions.  it is being very publicly disputed. perhaps that is the idea. no one knows what branca is doing with his 10% . no one knows if they ( they being ever who is helping ) don't already know full well there is a legit will somewhere just waiting to surface when it needs to.  i have no real idea if it could that way or not i just want to know why it couldn't . any thoughts ? like i said don't get angry with me , it just makes me wonder that's all.
  • hesouttamylifehesouttamylife Posts: 5,393
    http://www.tpboc.com/our_team.aspx<br /><br />I can’t vouch that this is full disclosure, or that it’s not a new team since this happened.
  • MJonmindMJonmind Posts: 7,290
    Suspicious, I know what you're saying. Anything can be happening, with MJ planning this for so many years with true friends and shark 'friends' all in the scene together. It always puzzled me that Back listed Levin in his bad books, while Branca is not. Could MJ have set the hoax up knowing Harvey would take the bait for the stories?<br /><br />Front's last post (this part of the forum) on Jan 2,13<br />
    The sun will rise, revealing a new dawn (Jacksun maybe hints to this?)<br />That light we've yearned for, for so long<br />Rays of truth shall cast out the lies<br />[size=12pt]Names[/size] revealed while in disguise (is Klein an online disguise for MJ?)<br />He says "Look closer, you have seen me of late"<br />Oh, what magic illusions can create!
    <br /><br />But it's obvious MJ has some big exposing and bringing down of an illegal blight hurting many people.<br />http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,5167.msg393734.html#msg393734<br />I think Bam is going to be much more than just seeing MJ in the flesh, but a bringing down of his/other's enemies.<br />
  • I did not trust Branca after Michael hired a PI and found out that Branca was working with Mottola behind his back funneling Michael's money to offshore accounts.That's when Michael asked Branca to resign and hand over all of the paperwork he had, but Branca did not (from what I've read).<br /><br />
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    <br />Suspicious, I know what you're saying. Anything can be happening, with MJ planning this for so many years with true friends and shark 'friends' all in the scene together. It always puzzled me that Back listed Levin in his bad books, while Branca is not. Could MJ have set the hoax up knowing Harvey would take the bait for the stories?<br /><br />Front's last post (this part of the forum) on Jan 2,13<br />
    The sun will rise, revealing a new dawn (Jacksun maybe hints to this?)<br />That light we've yearned for, for so long<br />Rays of truth shall cast out the lies<br />[size=12pt]Names[/size] revealed while in disguise (is Klein an online disguise for MJ?)<br />He says "Look closer, you have seen me of late"<br />Oh, what magic illusions can create!
    <br /><br />But it's obvious MJ has some big exposing and bringing down of an illegal blight hurting many people.<br />http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,5167.msg393734.html#msg393734<br />[size=14pt]I think Bam is going to be much more than just seeing MJ in the flesh, but a bringing down of his/other's enemies.[/size]<br />
    <br /><br />Fantastic post MJonline, thanks for sharing.<br />I have never had any doubt that BAM will be as you have described.
  • blankieblankie Posts: 2,350
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    <br />Suspicious, I know what you're saying. Anything can be happening, with MJ planning this for so many years with true friends and shark 'friends' all in the scene together. It always puzzled me that Back listed Levin in his bad books, while Branca is not. Could MJ have set the hoax up knowing Harvey would take the bait for the stories?<br /><br />Front's last post (this part of the forum) on Jan 2,13<br />
    The sun will rise, revealing a new dawn (Jacksun maybe hints to this?)<br />That light we've yearned for, for so long<br />Rays of truth shall cast out the lies<br />[size=12pt]Names[/size] revealed while in disguise (is Klein an online disguise for MJ?)<br />He says "Look closer, you have seen me of late"<br />Oh, what magic illusions can create!
    <br /><br />But it's obvious MJ has some big exposing and bringing down of an illegal blight hurting many people.<br />http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,5167.msg393734.html#msg393734<br />[size=14pt]I think Bam is going to be much more than just seeing MJ in the flesh, but a bringing down of his/other's enemies.[/size]<br />
    <br /><br />Fantastic post MJonline, thanks for sharing.<br />I have never had any doubt that BAM will be as you have described.<br />
    <br /><br /><br />L.O.V.E. this !!!!  :icon_bounce:  :bearhug:
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    <br />Suspicious, I know what you're saying. Anything can be happening, with MJ planning this for so many years with true friends and shark 'friends' all in the scene together. It always puzzled me that Back listed Levin in his bad books, while Branca is not. Could MJ have set the hoax up knowing Harvey would take the bait for the stories?<br /><br />Front's last post (this part of the forum) on Jan 2,13<br />
    The sun will rise, revealing a new dawn (Jacksun maybe hints to this?)<br />That light we've yearned for, for so long<br />Rays of truth shall cast out the lies<br />[size=12pt]Names[/size] revealed while in disguise (is Klein an online disguise for MJ?)<br />He says "Look closer, you have seen me of late"<br />Oh, what magic illusions can create!
    <br /><br />But it's obvious MJ has some big exposing and bringing down of an illegal blight hurting many people.<br />http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,5167.msg393734.html#msg393734<br />I think Bam is going to be much more than just seeing MJ in the flesh, but a bringing down of his/other's enemies.<br />
    i think you just might be right  :icon_e_wink:
  • MJonmindMJonmind Posts: 7,290
    But then Back also said Arnie was on the “de-Klein” decline, or meaning going down.  So that’s a point against him.<br /> :icon_e_confused:<br /> :screaming-7365:
  • AndreaAndrea Posts: 3,787
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    <br />But then Back also said Arnie was on the “de-Klein” decline, or meaning going down.  So that’s a point against him.<br /> :icon_e_confused:<br /> :screaming-7365:<br />
    <br /><br /><br />Unless that was the plan...it's all such a mystery!  But Back was right, Arnie HAS been on the de-Klein - no matter what angle you look at it from.  Some definite foresight on Back's part...
  • RKRK Posts: 3,019
    Arnie on the other will from his latest facebook post.<br />http://www.arnoldwklein.com/?p=2496
  • MJonmindMJonmind Posts: 7,290
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    <br />Arnie on the other will from his latest facebook post.<br />http://www.arnoldwklein.com/?p=2496<br />
    <br />Wild and wacky! I'm looking forward to each new AK post! :affraid:
  • hesouttamylifehesouttamylife Posts: 5,393
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    <br />Arnie on the other will from his latest facebook post.<br />http://www.arnoldwklein.com/?p=2496<br />
    <br />Wild and wacky! I'm looking forward to each new AK post! :affraid:<br />
    <br /><br /><br />and I believe the possible revealing of this 2nd will is why Lopez is dead.
  • RKRK Posts: 3,019
    and I believe the possible revealing of this 2nd will is why Lopez is dead.
    <br /><br />Their attempts at shutting Arnie down have backfired on them. I feel sure that Arnie has precautions in place that this truth and information he has will see the light of day regardless of what happens to him [God forbid] and they know this. Dr Klein is a smart man. I think he's got some dirty rats scared shitless of what he might say and reveal. Keep talking Arnie. We're all listening now.  :ghsdf:
  • [size=14pt]Arnold W. Klein, M.D[/size]<br /><br />Dr-Kleinperformingheader.jpg<br /><br />The Will of Michael Jackson is a Fraud.<br /><br />michael.jackson.by_.warhol1.jpg<br /><br />Michael jackson was not ahead of his time, he made the time…He did not walk he danced; he did not talk he sang; his language was movements and melodies the world had never seen before, and never will again. He became the rhythm, the lyrics, and the song; He was a true performance artist of our lifetime… Through his own personal pain blossomed this most incredible instrument…but like a wondrous inspirational sunset…with a blink of the eye he is gone. —Arnie<br /><br />The last time I saw Michael he did seem quite right. He seemed a bit high. Once I saw the autopsy I realized what was happening. A week or 2 later Jason Pfeiffer said Michael had called the office asking for an anesthesiologist a week or two  before he died (while I was in Europe.) It all made sense. Michael hated Weitzman since the first molestation trial and despised Branca.  Why did he sign with Branca? Because he was stoned out his mind from Murray injecting Propofol under his skin. It is called “Skin Popping,”  and it lasts a lot longer and you can’t just turn it as you can when its given I V. Michael Jackson‘s last will and testament is “fake, flawed and fraudulent” with a signature forged by the King of Pop’s attorneys, according to Jackson family members.<br />Tito Jackson, Randy Jackson, Jermaine Jackson, Janet Jackson and Rebbie Jackson showed solidarity in an aggressive five-page letter to lawyers for the estate of Michael Jackson, refuting their deceased brother’s will as phony, accusing the attorneys of lying, forgery and fraudulent practices.<br />Further, the five Jackson family members (now referred to as “The Jackson 5″) demanded that attorneys John Branca and John McClain immediately resign as executors of Michael Jackson’s estate.<br />Our brother told us, in no uncertain terms and without hesitation in the months prior to his death, that he despised both of you( he told me that too) and he did not want either of you to have anything to do with his life or estate for that matter,” “We know that and you know that.”We know there is most certainly a conspiracy surrounding our brother’s death, and now coarse manipulation and fear are being used to cover it up,” they wrote. “Your heartless pursuit of wealth, fame and power is at the expense of our family.”The Jackson 5 claim they have iron-clad proof that brother Michael Jackson was in New York City on the day he was alleged to have signed his last will and testament in Los Angeles(that  is true.) Their assertion is that the lawyers forged the signature of Michael Jackson on the will while the singer was 3,000 miles away from L.A. on July 7, 2002.”According to what is witnessed in the document, it is impossible and illogical that he could have been in two places at one time,” the Jacksons’ letter said. “We have evidence that undoubtedly supports and proves that Michael was absolutely not in Los Angeles, California(we were in NYC), on the date of his signature reflected in the will at hand.”
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