Marilyn Manson to Paris Jackson..You're always welcome at my shows

RKRK Posts: 3,019
edited January 1970 in News
http://www.tmz.com/2013/06/06/marilyn-manson-paris-jackson-suicide-attempt-concert/<br /><br />6/6/2013 8:15 AM PDT BY TMZ STAFF<br />MARILYN MANSON TO PARIS JACKSON<br />You're ALWAYS Welcome At My Shows<br />EXCLUSIVE<br />0605-marilyn-manson-paris-jackson-tmz-3.jpg<br /><br />Paris Jackson won't ever have to worry about missing another Marilyn Manson concert -- 'cause the goth rocker tells TMZ she'll get the VIP treatment whenever she wants to come to a show. <br /><br />We broke the story ... Paris "threw a fit" hours before her suicide attempt when she was told she wasn't allowed to attend an MM show. We're told she ran into her room screaming and slammed the door. <br /><br />After learning about the incident, Marilyn says he has a message for Paris -- "I hope you feel better. You will be on my guest list anytime you want."<br /><br />Paris is currently being hospitalized after she took a meat cleaver to her arm and swallowed a bunch of pills early Wednesday morning.<br /><br /><br />Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2013/06/06/marilyn-manson-paris-jackson-suicide-attempt-concert/#ixzz2VS4dxTZR
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  • MJonmindMJonmind Posts: 7,290
    Might as well give as much punch as possible--lots of extremes!
  • Australian MJ BeLIEverAustralian MJ BeLIEver Posts: 2,349
    Ironic how Manson in the past has been blamed for youth suicide.<br />Still think this is all about asking some kind of a point. Or perhaps a distraction.<br /><br />Hope we get to understand why
  • applehead250609applehead250609 Posts: 2,615
    on 1370533922:
    <br />http://www.tmz.com/2013/06/06/marilyn-manson-paris-jackson-suicide-attempt-concert/<br /><br />6/6/2013 8:15 AM PDT BY TMZ STAFF<br />MARILYN MANSON TO PARIS JACKSON<br />You're ALWAYS Welcome At My Shows<br />EXCLUSIVE<br />0605-marilyn-manson-paris-jackson-tmz-3.jpg<br /><br />Paris Jackson won't ever have to worry about missing another Marilyn Manson concert -- 'cause the goth rocker tells TMZ she'll get the VIP treatment whenever she wants to come to a show. <br /><br />We broke the story ... Paris "threw a fit" hours before her suicide attempt when she was told she wasn't allowed to attend an MM show. We're told she ran into her room screaming and slammed the door. <br /><br />After learning about the incident, Marilyn says he has a message for Paris -- "I hope you feel better. You will be on my guest list anytime you want."<br /><br />Paris is currently being hospitalized after she took a meat cleaver to her arm and swallowed a bunch of pills early Wednesday morning.<br /><br /><br />Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2013/06/06/marilyn-manson-paris-jackson-suicide-attempt-concert/#ixzz2VS4dxTZR<br />
    <br /><br />Marilyn Manson dedicates concert to Paris Jackson at Gibson Theatre  :animal0017: :animal0017: :screaming-7365: :screaming-7365: :LolLolLolLol: !!!!<br /><br />
  • sweetsunsetwithMJsweetsunsetwithMJ Posts: 2,626
    [size=12pt]I wish my daddy was here... he understands me[/size]<br />[size=10pt]Paris Jackson blasts family before suicide attempt[/size]<br /><br /><br />MICHAEL Jackson’s daughter attempted suicide following a vicious family row where she screamed: “I wish my daddy was here. He understands me.”<br />Paris, 15, cut her wrists and took an overdose of pills after accusing her guardians of not allowing her “to live my own life”.<br />They had banned the teen from a gig by shock rocker Marilyn Manson then barred her from the internet and sent her to her room after she “flipped”.<br />The family had earlier become increasingly concerned by her dark mood swings and suspected self-harming.<br />Paris has become obsessed with morbid musicians Kurt Cobain and Marilyn Manson, ditching her wholesome look for hacked hair and revealing clothes.<br />An insider said: “Paris feels that no one in her family ‘gets’ her any more and she feels isolated and alone.<br />“During the row on Tuesday night she said her father knew her better than anyone and knew what it was like growing up in the spotlight.”<br />Paris has been targeted by school bullies and web trolls who posted aggressive comments at her.<br />She was also due to testify in the Jacksons’ $40million legal battle against gig promoter AEG, who they blame for Jacko’s death in 2009.<br />Paris told family lawyers last month: “I think about him every day and cry.”<br />A source revealed: “Paris has been going through hell. We don’t think she wanted to take her life — we feel it was a cry for help.” But gran Katherine, 83, could now lose guardianship as child protection officers in California probe the incident. Biological mum Debbie Rowe, 54, could fight for custody.<br />Paris, who slashed her wrists with a cleaver and took painkillers, has already tried to break away by filing for “emancipation” — which would give her control of her life before the age of 18.<br />She was yesterday visited in UCLA hospital, where she is under 24-hour watch, by family including mum Debbie and aunt La Toya Jackson.<br /><br />http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/4958706/paris-jackson-said-she-misses-dad-before-suicide-attempt.html<br /><br /><br />
  • RouxieRouxie Posts: 68
    on 1370637525:
    <br />[size=12pt]I wish my daddy was here... he understands me[/size]<br />[size=10pt]Paris Jackson blasts family before suicide attempt[/size]<br /><br /><br />MICHAEL Jackson’s daughter attempted suicide following a vicious family row where she screamed: “I wish my daddy was here. He understands me.”<br />Paris, 15, cut her wrists and took an overdose of pills after accusing her guardians of not allowing her “to live my own life”.<br />They had banned the teen from a gig by shock rocker Marilyn Manson then barred her from the internet and sent her to her room after she “flipped”.<br />The family had earlier become increasingly concerned by her dark mood swings and suspected self-harming.<br />Paris has become obsessed with morbid musicians Kurt Cobain and Marilyn Manson, ditching her wholesome look for hacked hair and revealing clothes.<br />An insider said: “Paris feels that no one in her family ‘gets’ her any more and she feels isolated and alone.<br />“During the row on Tuesday night she said her father knew her better than anyone and knew what it was like growing up in the spotlight.”<br />Paris has been targeted by school bullies and web trolls who posted aggressive comments at her.<br />She was also due to testify in the Jacksons’ $40million legal battle against gig promoter AEG, who they blame for Jacko’s death in 2009.<br />Paris told family lawyers last month: “I think about him every day and cry.”<br />A source revealed: “Paris has been going through hell. We don’t think she wanted to take her life — we feel it was a cry for help.” But gran Katherine, 83, could now lose guardianship as child protection officers in California probe the incident. Biological mum Debbie Rowe, 54, could fight for custody.<br />Paris, who slashed her wrists with a cleaver and took painkillers, has already tried to break away by filing for “emancipation” — which would give her control of her life before the age of 18.<br />She was yesterday visited in UCLA hospital, where she is under 24-hour watch, by family including mum Debbie and aunt La Toya Jackson.<br /><br />http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/4958706/paris-jackson-said-she-misses-dad-before-suicide-attempt.html<br />
    <br /><br />well thank you (SweetsunsetwithMJ) for making us updated ... :bearhug:<br />but i'm really not buying it , I'm hardly believing in The TMZ articles , and we know the drill<br />if that happened TMZ will be the first to "Learn" , as for the Marilyn Manson gig Paris is way smarter than this<br />and yes it's very true that Gran Katherine may lose her guardianship and i think she will of course !<br />this was a Suicide attempt , not an easy thing to handle , and as for debbie i'm not sure she will fight for custody or not<br />because we already know that prince didn't want paris to spend time with her , then what about living with her !<br /><br />MUCH L.O.V.E. Rouxie.<br />
  • sweetsunsetwithMJsweetsunsetwithMJ Posts: 2,626
    You are welcome Rouxie, by the way I love your country "Egypt"  :bearhug:
  • sweetsunsetwithMJsweetsunsetwithMJ Posts: 2,626
    [size=12pt]MARILYN MANSON<br />Simulates Wrist Slashing<br />After Paris Song Dedication[/size]<br /><br />0607-marilyn-manson-splash-knife-3.jpg<br /><br />Marilyn Manson took a knife to his arm and simulated a wrist-slashing during his L.A. concert last night ... moments after dedicating a song to Paris Jackson. <br /><br />The knife is attached to a microphone -- which Manson has used as a prop in previous concerts ... but in the wake of the Paris Jackson song dedication, it had a bigger impact during last night's show. <br /><br />We broke the story ... hours before Paris took a meat cleaver to her arm at her Calabasas home earlier this week, she "threw a fit" because she wasn't allowed to attend a Marilyn Manson show.<br /><br />Manson dedicated the song "Disposable Teens" to Jackson last night ... and had previously extended an open offer to Paris to attend his shows whenever she wants.<br /><br />http://www.tmz.com/2013/06/07/marilyn-manson-paris-jackson-knife-slashing-concert/
  • blankieblankie Posts: 2,350
    mmmmm ....this things  seems to me exaggerated .....  ???    :(<br /><br /><br />Thanks sweet for sharing !!  :bearhug:
  • marumjjmarumjj Posts: 1,027
    on 1370646573:
    <br />[size=12pt]MARILYN MANSON<br />Simulates Wrist Slashing<br />After Paris Song Dedication[/size]<br /><br />0607-marilyn-manson-splash-knife-3.jpg<br /><br />Marilyn Manson took a knife to his arm and simulated a wrist-slashing during his L.A. concert last night ... moments after dedicating a song to Paris Jackson. <br /><br />The knife is attached to a microphone -- which Manson has used as a prop in previous concerts ... but in the wake of the Paris Jackson song dedication, it had a bigger impact during last night's show. <br /><br />We broke the story ... hours before Paris took a meat cleaver to her arm at her Calabasas home earlier this week, she "threw a fit" because she wasn't allowed to attend a Marilyn Manson show.<br /><br />Manson dedicated the song "Disposable Teens" to Jackson last night ... and had previously extended an open offer to Paris to attend his shows whenever she wants.<br /><br />http://www.tmz.com/2013/06/07/marilyn-manson-paris-jackson-knife-slashing-concert/<br />
    <br /><br />I do not know much about MM, so if it is that Manson went to the extreme  :WTF:
  • 2good2btrue2good2btrue Posts: 4,210
    These are just some of the lyrics to his songs....Why Paris would be listening to him I have no idea.. :Pulling_hair:<br /><br />This is the one he dedicated to Paris:<br /><br />[size=10pt]Disposable Teens[/size]<br /><br />And I’m a black rainbow<br />And I’m an ape of god<br />I got a face that’s made for violence upon<br />I’m a teen distortion<br />Survived abortion<br />A rebel from the waist down<br /><br />I wanna thank you mom<br />I wanna thank you dad<br />For bringing this fucking world<br />To a bitter end<br />I never really hated a one true god<br />But the God of the people I hated<br /><br />You said you wanted evolution<br />The ape was a great big hit<br />You say you want a revolution, man<br />And I say that you’re full of shit<br /><br />We’re disposable teens<br />We’re disposable teens<br />We’re disposable teens<br />We’re disposable<br />We’re disposable teens<br />We’re disposable teens<br />We’re disposable teens<br />We’re disposable<br /><br />You said you wanted evolution<br />The ape was a great big hit<br />You say you want a revolution, man<br />I say that you’re full of shit<br /><br />The more that you fear us<br />The bigger we get<br />The more that you fear us<br />The bigger we get<br />And don’t be surprised, don’t be surprised<br />Don’t be surprised when we destroy all of it<br /><br /><br />[size=12pt]Count to 6 & Die[/size]<br /><br />She’s got her eyes open wide<br />She’s got the dirt and spit of the world<br />Her mouth on the metal<br />The lips of a scared little girl<br /><br />I’ve got an angel in the lobby<br />He’s waiting to put me in line<br />I won’t ask forgiveness<br />My faith has gone dry<br /><br />She’s got her christian prescriptures<br />And death has crawled in her ear<br />Like elevator music of songs<br />That she shouldn’t hear<br /><br />And it spins around 1...2...3<br />And we all lay down 4...5...6<br />Some do it fast<br />Some do it better in smaller amounts<br /><br />And it spins around 1...2...3<br />And we all lay down 4...5...6<br />Some do it fast<br />Some do it better in smaller amounts <br /><br /><br />[size=12pt]COME BACK[/size]<br />[ a) EDEN EYE ]<br /><br />My mouth was a crib and it was growing lies<br />I didn't know what love was on that day<br />my heart's a tiny bloodclot<br />I picked at it<br />it never heals it never goes away<br /><br />I burned all the good things in The Eden Eye<br />we were too dumb to run too dead to die<br /><br />This was never my world <br />you took the angel away<br />I'd kill myself to make everybody pay<br />This was never my world<br />you took the angel away<br />I'd kill myself to make everybody pay  :icon_e_surprised:<br /><br /><br />I would have told her then<br />she was the only thing<br />that I could love in this dying world<br />but the simple word "love" itself<br />already died and went away<br /><br />This was never my world <br />you took the angel away<br />I'd kill myself to make everybody pay<br />This was never my world<br />you took the angel away<br />I'd kill myself to make everybody pay<br /><br />I burned all the good things in The Eden Eye<br />we were too dumb to run too dead to die<br /><br />[ b) APPLE OF DISCORD ]<br /><br />Her heart's bloodstained egg<br />we didn't handle with care<br />it's broken and bleeding<br />and we can never repair <br /><br /><br />And it even gets more weirder than this..........<br /><br /><br />http://www.poemhunter.com/lyrics/marilyn-manson/<br /><br /><br /><br /><br />
  • becbec Posts: 6,387
    Marilyn Manson is a cultural icon. He's always getting blamed for some societal ill regarding teenagers. It's always MM's fault, sort of a joke you know.
  • MJonmindMJonmind Posts: 7,290
    2Good, yes it's not my cup of tea. His message seems to me to be one of despair, hatred of all that's held up as good because of seeing hypocrasy and the effects on mankind. He's not wanting to sweep anything under the carpet but focus on the dirt and shame. I'm trying to be fair and not critical, but I'm not comfortable with this style of music because it leaves a heavy negative feeling for me.<br /><br />It hasn't been posted here the discussion that went on concerning Front and MM on twitter.<br /><br />
    Front ‏@frontback777 ; 3 Jun<br />cracKed court---"testymoney" re$umes.....weeping elephant.<br /><br />Front ‏@frontback777 ; 6 Jun<br />Marilyn M (elephant video) msg to P not related to June 3 "weeping elephant" tweet.<br /><br />RJayKay ‏@JayKay959 ; 6 Jun<br />@frontback777 Not related? The Elephant Man remix with Nine Inch Nails? No coincidence?
    <br /><br />So that got some hunting going and, <br />Here is the Marilyn Manson song Deformography: (not sure if it’s okay to put this here)<br />http://grooveshark.com/#!/search/song?q=Marilyn+Manson+Deformography(Elephant+Man-Mix&lt;br /><br />Deformography lyrics<br />http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/marilynmanson/deformography.html<br />Though it’s not my kind of music, what I felt when reading the lyrics, was IF (big if) MJ was sending us a message I felt: Sometimes we feel like the Elephant man in that we feel ugly, dirty and nasty, and that if people really knew us they would reject us, rather than love us with all our humanity good and bad. The ending:<br />
    You are the one I want and what I want is so unreal<br />I'm such a dirty Rock star yeah...<br />(I am the one you want and the one you want is so unreal)
    <br /><br />I feel MJ is reaching out to all youth and parents here, as in all the world's children are his children. Even Conrad Murray said that he loved Paris like his own child. In the 'Michael' album cover MJ's 3 children are pictured at the front but still part of a large crowd of children is if they are all his children.  He hears and feels their pain and fears and confusion. I've experienced a little of the scenario with my daughter when she was 15, as I'm sure millions of other parents have. As usual we have to read between the lines and not just take things at surface value.<br />
  • RKRK Posts: 3,019
    Yes @MJonline and 2Good....I deleted some of my tweets from twitter on this because there has been so much bashing going on there and I don't like to provoke more on such a public arena like twitter.<br /><br />As for the Marilyn Manson Deformography lyrics.....It starts out with Disney theme "When you wish upon a star " line and then goes on to lament about the truth regarding fame......the whole fame dream is just that....a nightmare really. Disney programming, mass mind control, overt sexualization promoted and thrust in your vision constantly...as well as  other aspects we've looked at through out this journey came to my mind [ dark agendas]. <br />I also am not partial to this type of  dark and grotesque art, but the fact is that truth can be very ugly at times, even if I choose not to look at it....doesn't mean it's not out there. I have been told that art is a representation or statement on the condition of the society of it's time. And if that is so....we are living in some very scarey times.<br /><br />Shock rockers are nothing new to the world...a progression from the days of Brechtian theater...but as for me..I like my art to be beautiful and inspiring...I can visit my local dog pound any day to see the ugly side of the human condition. <br /><br />A personal coincidence from this whole suicide and MM story fro me was when MM was headlining Big Day Out here in Aus. I didn't allow my daughter to go either and she was older that Paris at the time too.  :argue:
  • applehead250609applehead250609 Posts: 2,615
    on 1370646573:
    <br />[size=12pt]MARILYN MANSON<br />Simulates Wrist Slashing<br />After Paris Song Dedication[/size]<br /><br />0607-marilyn-manson-splash-knife-3.jpg<br /><br />Marilyn Manson took a knife to his arm and simulated a wrist-slashing during his L.A. concert last night ... moments after dedicating a song to Paris Jackson. <br /><br />The knife is attached to a microphone -- which Manson has used as a prop in previous concerts ... but in the wake of the Paris Jackson song dedication, it had a bigger impact during last night's show. <br /><br />We broke the story ... hours before Paris took a meat cleaver to her arm at her Calabasas home earlier this week, she "threw a fit" because she wasn't allowed to attend a Marilyn Manson show.<br /><br />Manson dedicated the song "Disposable Teens" to Jackson last night ... and had previously extended an open offer to Paris to attend his shows whenever she wants.<br /><br />http://www.tmz.com/2013/06/07/marilyn-manson-paris-jackson-knife-slashing-concert/<br />
    <br /><br />What's with that RED Cross ??  :WTF: Lately a lot of artists use in their shows  :icon_e_confused:.<br />It seems that Marilyn has something against Christianity.<br /><br />manson_godform.jpg<br /><br />Marilyn+Manson+Illuminati+Hand+Sign+Gaga.png<br /><br />Illuminati+Marilyn+Manson+Tainted+Love+We+hate+love+hate+remembered+person+brought+Christianity.jpg
  • Australian MJ BeLIEverAustralian MJ BeLIEver Posts: 2,349
    MM is the son of a Pastor
  • iloveyoumoreiloveyoumore Posts: 307
    Mansons real name is Brian Warner, he is not a bad person or "devil" as many people like to think. I used to be a big fan when I was younger. In reality he's very shy and he loves art (painting and stuff). He was very insecure when he was younger. And the reason why his shows / songs / videos are so dark is because he just wants to shock the world (just like Michael with this hoax) and it's just the way his art is. Some MM fans might just take too seriously some of the song lyrics. People should understand it's a show. <br /><br />And I believe Paris understands that too, she wouldn't "attempt suicide" because of this. If her "suicide attempt" was real, MM was not the reason. Paris is too smart.
  • MaryKMaryK Posts: 1,732
    This world we live in isn´t always about lightness. It´s often cold and hostile, shallow and often bereft of content.<br /><br />Everyone is trying to find their meaning in life, their place. Especially during adolescence.<br /><br />This gesture on stage wasn´t meant as an encouragement to think about suicide as a solution, nor was it the glorification of suicide or mockery of any kind.<br /><br />I think it was a gesture of showing solidarity. Saying "I feel your pain, I can relate, you are not alone and you are NOT a failure for thinking the way you do or doing what you did".<br /><br />I think it is important that we have people out there, also artists, that give those struggling to fit in or fighting to be understood the feeling of "you are not alone"<br /><br />I think MM songs have helped save more (young) lifes then we could ever imagine. <br /><br />The person behind the "product" MM is in fact very shy and sensitive, very intelligent, literate and well-spoken.<br /><br />He actually does have a lot of very deep songs and views on society and life that Michael himself probably agrees with.<br /><br />Marilyn-Manson-Quotes-4.jpg<br />
  • iloveyoumoreiloveyoumore Posts: 307
    THANKS MaryK!  :th_bravo: Great post.
  • MaryKMaryK Posts: 1,732
    on 1370698969:
    <br />THANKS MaryK!  :th_bravo: Great post.<br />
    <br /><br />You´re welcome  :icon_e_wink:<br /><br /> :bearhug:
  • Australian MJ BeLIEverAustralian MJ BeLIEver Posts: 2,349
    on 1370696954:
    <br />This world we live in isn´t always about lightness. It´s often cold and hostile, shallow and often bereft of content.<br /><br />Everyone is trying to find their meaning in life, their place. Especially during adolescence.<br /><br />This gesture on stage wasn´t meant as an encouragement to think about suicide as a solution, nor was it the glorification of suicide or mockery of any kind.<br /><br />I think it was a gesture of showing solidarity. Saying "I feel your pain, I can relate, you are not alone and you are NOT a failure for thinking the way you do or doing what you did".<br /><br />I think it is important that we have people out there, also artists, that give those struggling to fit in or fighting to be understood the feeling of "you are not alone"<br /><br />I think MM songs have helped save more (young) lifes then we could ever imagine. <br /><br />The person behind the "product" MM is in fact very shy and sensitive, very intelligent, literate and well-spoken.<br /><br />He actually does have a lot of very deep songs and views on society and life that Michael himself probably agrees with.<br /><br />Marilyn-Manson-Quotes-4.jpg<br />
    <br /><br />So Mary, not being a smarty pants, but do you feel different and ok about using suicide as a topic for entertainment when MM is singing about the issue and playing with a knife on stage, in the name of "helping teens" but not ok with Paris / MJ writing Suicide into the hoax script? (Let's assume for purpose of this Q that the story is fake)<br /><br />How is it different? MMs rendition is far more graphic, but you appear to applaud him unless I am reading your wavelength incorrectly.<br /><br />Again, not trying to be smart. Just asking questions that naturally come up for me after reading your post.
  • becbec Posts: 6,387
    on 1370696954:
    <br />This world we live in isn´t always about lightness. It´s often cold and hostile, shallow and often bereft of content.<br /><br />Everyone is trying to find their meaning in life, their place. Especially during adolescence.<br /><br />This gesture on stage wasn´t meant as an encouragement to think about suicide as a solution, nor was it the glorification of suicide or mockery of any kind.<br /><br />I think it was a gesture of showing solidarity. Saying "I feel your pain, I can relate, you are not alone and you are NOT a failure for thinking the way you do or doing what you did".<br /><br />I think it is important that we have people out there, also artists, that give those struggling to fit in or fighting to be understood the feeling of "you are not alone"<br /><br />I think MM songs have helped save more (young) lifes then we could ever imagine. <br /><br />The person behind the "product" MM is in fact very shy and sensitive, very intelligent, literate and well-spoken.<br /><br />He actually does have a lot of very deep songs and views on society and life that Michael himself probably agrees with.<br /><br />Marilyn-Manson-Quotes-4.jpg<br />
    <br /><br />LIKE!!  :icon_e_biggrin:
  • Australian MJ BeLIEverAustralian MJ BeLIEver Posts: 2,349
    Btw not judging / necessarily disagreeing with MMs messages.
  • becbec Posts: 6,387
    @Aussie: I thought Mary had a change of heart upon a days reflection. We've all been there.
  • Australian MJ BeLIEverAustralian MJ BeLIEver Posts: 2,349
    on 1370702824:
    <br />@Aussie: I thought Mary had a change of heart upon a days reflection. We've all been there.<br />
    <br /><br />Cool. Again. Not being facetious. Promise. Was more curious on how she differentiated it.<br /><br />And yes! Haven't we all been there!!  :icon_e_wink:<br /><br />Mary do you still feel the story is true?
  • MaryKMaryK Posts: 1,732
    Fair question Aussie and I understand where you are coming from.<br /><br />Art is self-expression. Through art the artist can make others feel what he/she feels. And, potentially, people can relate to that and see part of themselves in that piece of art. Often they find more comfort in that than in anyone trying to give them good advice.<br /><br />You can now say that using such a story (attempted suicide) for hoax purposes is also an art form. <br /><br />I agree, you could say that a fabricated story about suicide is also raising awareness, conveying the message of "I am just like you, yes I did that, yes I hurt".<br /><br />The difference for me is that (up to now), the public, the "audience" have no way, no possibility of perceiving the Paris story as art, since the majority of the world public isn´t aware of the death hoax. <br />There is no way that they can perceive this as self-expression of either Paris or her dad. <br />There is no way that they can grasp what this might be about, why it is done and for what purpose. <br />The context, the connotation is missing completely. <br /><br />So yes, I still feel the story is true. <br /><br /><br />
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