As far as the numerology is concerned, i quite believe that WR is helping MJ. This whole situation is so contradictory, WR got into dancing because of MJ and is quitting for ever because of MJ. This such ridiculousness, and I don't know how many people out there except us believers are actually realizing it.<br /><br />WR accusations imo is a mystery, whose reasons will only be revealed in some time.
Thriller, I totally know where you're coming from. How can he ever dance again with this, since there are likely 0 dancers who don't love and respect MJ. But if this is part of the plan, then Wade's job is about as dirty as Murray's is, no dirtier, since Murray claims he was trying to wean his 'friend' MJ off of propofol. And if Wade is wanting to invite all the other would be accusers out of hiding, then the silence is deafening, and speaks volumes. There has been so much usage of reverse psychology in this hoax, and we have to rely so much on gut instinct or intuition. MJ moves as a ghost or panther in the directing/writing of this.<br /><br />Applehead, thanks, you always find the most interesting stuff!
<br />Thriller, I totally know where you're coming from. How can he ever dance again with this, since there are likely 0 dancers who don't love and respect MJ. But if this is part of the plan, then Wade's job is about as dirty as Murray's is, no dirtier, since Murray claims he was trying to wean his 'friend' MJ off of propofol. And if Wade is wanting to invite all the other would be accusers out of hiding, then the silence is deafening, and speaks volumes. There has been so much usage of reverse psychology in this hoax, and we have to rely so much on gut instinct or intuition. MJ moves as a ghost or panther in the directing/writing of this.<br /><br />Applehead, thanks, you always find the most interesting stuff!<br />
<br /><br />You have explained it better than I would, I agree.<br /><br />Applehead I agree with what MJonline has said about you always bring very good info, thanks for your effort to keep the forum well informed.
<br />But there's nothing like faking your death to see how your friends or who you thought were your friends act.<br />
<br /><br />Agree MJonmind, and I always thought that one of the reasons why Michael wanted June 25 was to see that too. He realized that he was surrounded by sharks.... :icon_mad:
<br />Thriller, I totally know where you're coming from. How can he ever dance again with this, since there are likely 0 dancers who don't love and respect MJ. But if this is part of the plan, then Wade's job is about as dirty as Murray's is, no dirtier, since Murray claims he was trying to wean his 'friend' MJ off of propofol. And if Wade is wanting to invite all the other would be accusers out of hiding, then the silence is deafening, and speaks volumes. There has been so much usage of reverse psychology in this hoax, and we have to rely so much on gut instinct or intuition. MJ moves as a ghost or panther in the directing/writing of this.<br /><br />Applehead, thanks, you always find the most interesting stuff!<br />
<br /><br />I really do not know if it's so simple, how to fake his death, to know who is good or bad. I agree with Blankie, MJ began to realize there was something wrong about him, for a long time.<br />If Wade, as Murray, do the dirty work, I do not know, Murray is supposedly serving time, and Wade, a demand for money.
Thot this was pretty interesting about WR, showing a possible perspective.<br />"Wade Robson's Ill-fated Directing Career and the Allegations"<br />http://mjjr.net/robson/robson_film.html
<br />I found this article and wanted to post it here since it explains very clearly what Wade's motives for these allegations are, MONEY. Also shows that we're not the only ones who are extremely bothered by the whole thing....... <br /><br /><br />Wade Robson's Michael Jackson long-shot lawsuit obsession<br /><br />By The Fame Fatale<br /> <br />July 9, 2013 3:00 PM ET<br />Follow @famefatalesays on TwitterTwitter<br />wade-robson-getty-emmys-michael-jackson.jpgWelcome to Bugging Me Right Now, a recurring blog segment that deals with entertainment news The Fame Fatale can't seem to shake. (Another thing that has me obsessed: Finding a better name for this friggin' segment.)<br /><br />This week, what's bugging me is Wade Robson. You'll remember Wade Robson as the 30-year-old dancer who, as a child, was totally, completely not being abused by Michael Jackson. Cut to a few weeks ago, and get this: Wade Robson was absolutely positively abused by Jackson. So sayeth Wade Robson.<br /><br />How do I know this? Because Robson, who defended Jackson's honor during his 2005 molestation trial, has now filed a claim against the dead singer's estate. The jist of Robson's argument: That he didn't know that his childhood activities with Jackson constituted abuse, until more recently, when Robson went through therapy. Now, Robson knows he's a victim, and he wants compensation.<br /><br />Here's the problem: The statutes of limitation. No matter what starting-line you use-the date of Jackson's death, the dates of the alleged abuses, the date when Robson first had his apparent epiphany-those statues are long expired. And Robson seems to know that. <br /><br />Which brings me to my current obsession: The odds are so, so stacked against this guy. So what. The frack. Does Robson. Think. He is doing.<br /><br />In between tearing out my hair in bloody chunks, I reached out to a couple of lawyers who specialize in this stuff. (Not abuse-epiphany stuff. Suing-dead-people stuff.) And they calmed me the hell down. They explained that there are a couple of very solid, very logical reasons for Robson's apparent kamikaze mission.<br /><br />Attorney Irwin Feinberg notes that, even if Robson never wins a dime from the Jackson estate, the dancer's public filing and subsequent press coverage has garnered something much more valuable.<br /><br />"Other than a hail-Mary pass at trying to get this claim heard, I think he's just hoping on getting publicity," Feinberg notes. And publicity equals potential interest from press. The kind of press that pays thousands of dollars for exclusive interviews. Or maybe Robson crafts a book deal and earns himself a nice, hefty advance.<br /><br />Mission accomplished. Robson now has money.<br /><br />The other possible strategy is that Robson thinks he can play a long game against the Jackson estate.<br /><br />"Oftentimes," notes Greenberg Glusker's Ricardo Cestero, "people will file incredibly long-shot claims and come up with novel arguments about why they should be allowed to get around the statutes, on the off chance that they can convince a judge that their arguments pass the smell test."<br /><br />Then, as he and colleague Laura Zwicker explained to me, "they get the case far enough along where the executor of the estate will say, 'You know what? Here's a few hundred thousand dollars to go away, because we don't want to keep fighting this case'."<br /><br />And I am now officially at peace. Hairless. But at peace.<br />Visit The Fame Fatale for more celebrity vivisection<br /><br />http://blog.zap2it.com/pop2it/2013/07/wade-robsons-michael-jackson-long-shot-lawsuit-obsession.html<br />
<br /><br /><br />so does the estate remain in some legal limbo while it is being determined whether this will go anywhere? :judge-smiley:
<br />Thot this was pretty interesting about WR, showing a possible perspective.<br />"Wade Robson's Ill-fated Directing Career and the Allegations"<br />http://mjjr.net/robson/robson_film.html<br />
<br /><br />The link includes the following statement near the bottom of the page: "What is not mentioned in the complaint is how Wade was ambitiously discussing plans to work on a Michael Jackson tribute show by Cirque du Soleil several months after dropping out of the big budget production (one could reasonably speculate that Wade may have dropped out of the Step Up film under the belief that he would instead be part of the Michael Jackson tribute tour that was being prepared at the same time)."<br /><br />In the general timeline of events, Robson made his allegations after not being hired to work on the MJ Cirque du Soleil show. Wonder if Robson ever came to know or suspect that MJ is alive? (Don’t know if this potential angle has been brought up before.)
Can you believe this guy :WTF: :WTF: :WTF:??<br /><br />TSCM @MJJRepository 1mMJJR Exclusive Pic: Wade Robson staying overnight in Michael Jackson's Neverland guest house on February 3, 2007<br /><br /><br /><br />So was he still under Michael's brainwashing spells :icon_e_surprised: ? Was this part of the prophecy :icon_rolleyes: ? Who would want to go back to a place where they were repeatedly violated :Pulling_hair: ?<br /><br />WITHIN - 2007 short film by Wade Robson & Amanda Robson <br /><br /><br />He used it for that short movie he did with his wife in 2007, said thanks to Grace for setting the whole thing up. I wonder if Grace was on the phone to him and if Wade was begging for it? Interesting he had to get Grace to do it, like MJ didn't even get involved :suspect:.<br />We have to make sure this is saved as evidence for the estate.. this MOFO is going to call the place he claimed he was abused 'sacred land'?? :icon_eek: :icon_lol: :icon_lol: :icon_lol:<br />
Don't kill me for what I am gonna say but what if this Wade story is just a Michael's wake up call for people to realize how awful child molestation can be and maybe Michael and Wade are working together to open that place where to treat those sex abused children and give them comfort, future and a better life and so eradicate all their traumas and nightmares, that would be awesome but maybe I am just a dreamer.
<br /><br />@ Sweet<br />You know what? I'm beginning to think the same too after reading that Wade has opened this foundation that might be supported from MJ himself. Reminds me of Paris' suicide that is -imo- not true as well! Both stories fit very well in the hoax that is supposed to be the greatest show on earth. May be hoaxers should start to think outside the box!
Well I thought this story was going to preface Jordy coming forward finally, but fast forward several months and I guess not. I guess Jordy is never coming forward. I guess back @mjjc was full of shit. The stain will never be removed. It's indelible. Looking like it's time to put this whole thing to rest n move on. #disgusted
Well I thought this story was going to preface Jordy coming forward finally, but fast forward several months and I guess not. I guess Jordy is never coming forward. I guess back @mjjc was full of shit. The stain will never be removed. It's indelible. Looking like it's time to put this whole thing to rest n move on. #disgusted
<br />I've always wanted to discuss about this issue, because I see no progress when it comes to 'removing the stains'<br /><br />I'm slightly going off-topic, but how is this whole vindication thing exactly gonna take place? Some days back, I saw @Frontback777 's tweet to trend #stoptheliesaboutmichaeljackson, and I thought to myself, "Please don't tell me this is the vindication process I've been waiting for".<br /><br />And as far as WR is concerned, i still stick to the fact that 'numbers don't lie', the numerology behind Wade's accusations are just too much to be called 'co-incidental'
<br />Well I thought this story was going to preface Jordy coming forward finally, but fast forward several months and I guess not. I guess Jordy is never coming forward. I guess back @mjjc was full of shit. The stain will never be removed. It's indelible. Looking like it's time to put this whole thing to rest n move on. #disgusted<br />
<br /><br />The coming Nuclear Bomb will be made of vindications and the hoax is not finished yet, Michael is working hard to clear his mame but he won't let us learn about it till the end, I'm starting to believe we only know about half of the hoax and there will be last moment surprises.
Well I thought this story was going to preface Jordy coming forward finally, but fast forward several months and I guess not. I guess Jordy is never coming forward. I guess back @mjjc was full of shit. The stain will never be removed. It's indelible. Looking like it's time to put this whole thing to rest n move on. #disgusted
<br />I've always wanted to discuss about this issue, because I see no progress when it comes to 'removing the stains'<br /><br />I'm slightly going off-topic, but how is this whole vindication thing exactly gonna take place? Some days back, I saw @Frontback777 's tweet to trend #stoptheliesaboutmichaeljackson, and I thought to myself, "Please don't tell me this is the vindication process I've been waiting for".<br /><br />And as far as WR is concerned, i still stick to the fact that 'numbers don't lie', the numerology behind Wade's accusations are just too much to be called 'co-incidental' <br />
<br /><br />You're right, the numbers.<br /><br />Ugh.
<br />Well I thought this story was going to preface Jordy coming forward finally, but fast forward several months and I guess not. I guess Jordy is never coming forward. I guess back @mjjc was full of shit. The stain will never be removed. It's indelible. Looking like it's time to put this whole thing to rest n move on. #disgusted<br />
<br /><br />The coming Nuclear Bomb will be made of vindications and the hoax is not finished yet, Michael is working hard to clear his mame but he won't let us learn about it till the end, I'm starting to believe we only know about half of the hoax and there will be last moment surprises.<br />
<br /><br />i don't feel we even know 'half'.... it's like 15% and not completely sure.<br /><br />The only thing we are sure about is Michael's alive, the rest is speculation, IMO.<br /><br />I've always thought that when we'd be nearing the 'four years', we'll be seeing a lot of confusion, revolution, more like cyber wars. Now I'm thinking, maybe it's gonna be the 'five-year plan' Michael had, as told by Jermaine.<br /><br />
Alfonso Ribeiro On Michael Jackson Molestation Allegations: 'I Simply Won't Believe It'<br /><br />Access HollywoodAccess Hollywood – Wed, Aug 14, 2013<br /><br />Alfonso Ribeiro says he's always thought of his late friend Michael Jackson as a "child caught in a man's body," and it is one of the reasons he will never believe the molestation allegations against the entertainer.<br /><br />"Quite frankly, no matter how many reports or things, or what people say, I will never believe that Michael was any of the things that they want to report about him," he told Access Hollywood's Kit Hoover. "I won't believe it because being a kid and being 12, 13, and 14, knowing Michael Jackson and hanging out with Michael, it never occurred, it never seemed like it could have occurred. There was nothing ever questionable, I simply won't believe it."<br /><br />Ribeiro, who previously appeared in a Pepsi commercial opposite the pop star (he played a mini version of Jackson, complete with a "Beat It"-esque red jacket) has only innocent memories of the entertainer.<br /><br />PHOTOS: Michael Jackson & His Superstar Friends<br /><br />"At the end of the day Michael was a kid, and kids like hanging out with other kids, not adults, so I just think that he reached a point, you know, at that age where he just kind of stayed there," Ribeiro added.<br /><br />Ribeiro was just 12 years old when he was cast in the Pepsi commercial opposite Jackson.<br /><br />While speaking to Kit, Ribeiro said that working with Jackson was "the greatest thing that could have ever happened in my life at that time, I thought it was the coolest thing ever."<br /><br />"I looked at Michael and I still look at Michael this way, and I will always look at Michael this way: Michael was a man, he was a child caught in a man's body," Ribeiro said. "He is absolutely a child, and I viewed him that way."<br /><br />Copyright 2013 by NBC Universal, Inc. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.<br /><br /><br />http://news.yahoo.com/alfonso-ribeiro-michael-jackson-molestation-allegations-simply-wont-021020522.html<br /><br /> <br /><br /> <br /><br /> <br /><br /><br /> <br /><br /> <br /> <br /><br /> <br /><br /> <br /><br />
<br />Alfonso Ribeiro On Michael Jackson Molestation Allegations: 'I Simply Won't Believe It'<br /><br />Access HollywoodAccess Hollywood – Wed, Aug 14, 2013<br /><br />Alfonso Ribeiro says he's always thought of his late friend Michael Jackson as a "child caught in a man's body," and it is one of the reasons he will never believe the molestation allegations against the entertainer.<br /><br />"Quite frankly, no matter how many reports or things, or what people say, I will never believe that Michael was any of the things that they want to report about him," he told Access Hollywood's Kit Hoover. "I won't believe it because being a kid and being 12, 13, and 14, knowing Michael Jackson and hanging out with Michael, it never occurred, it never seemed like it could have occurred. There was nothing ever questionable, I simply won't believe it."<br /><br />Ribeiro, who previously appeared in a Pepsi commercial opposite the pop star (he played a mini version of Jackson, complete with a "Beat It"-esque red jacket) has only innocent memories of the entertainer.<br /><br />PHOTOS: Michael Jackson & His Superstar Friends<br /><br />"At the end of the day Michael was a kid, and kids like hanging out with other kids, not adults, so I just think that he reached a point, you know, at that age where he just kind of stayed there," Ribeiro added.<br /><br />Ribeiro was just 12 years old when he was cast in the Pepsi commercial opposite Jackson.<br /><br />While speaking to Kit, Ribeiro said that working with Jackson was "the greatest thing that could have ever happened in my life at that time, I thought it was the coolest thing ever."<br /><br />"I looked at Michael and I still look at Michael this way, and I will always look at Michael this way: Michael was a man, he was a child caught in a man's body," Ribeiro said. "He is absolutely a child, and I viewed him that way."<br /><br />Copyright 2013 by NBC Universal, Inc. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.<br /><br /><br />http://news.yahoo.com/alfonso-ribeiro-michael-jackson-molestation-allegations-simply-wont-021020522.html
<br /><br />Thank you Faithadd for this POSITIVE article :bearhug: !!!<br />I had already read this and I was so happy , because I really needed to hear that, considering the circus around Mike .What I always liked about Alfonso, it's the fact that has always maintained the same opinion regarding Mike: one very positive :th_bravo: .
<br />Can you believe this guy :WTF: :WTF: :WTF:??<br /><br />TSCM @MJJRepository 1mMJJR Exclusive Pic: Wade Robson staying overnight in Michael Jackson's Neverland guest house on February 3, 2007<br /><br /><br /><br />So was he still under Michael's brainwashing spells :icon_e_surprised: ? Was this part of the prophecy :icon_rolleyes: ? Who would want to go back to a place where they were repeatedly violated :Pulling_hair: ?<br /><br />WITHIN - 2007 short film by Wade Robson & Amanda Robson <br /><br /><br />He used it for that short movie he did with his wife in 2007, said thanks to Grace for setting the whole thing up. I wonder if Grace was on the phone to him and if Wade was begging for it? Interesting he had to get Grace to do it, like MJ didn't even get involved :suspect:.<br />We have to make sure this is saved as evidence for the estate.. this MOFO is going to call the place he claimed he was abused 'sacred land'?? :icon_eek: :icon_lol: :icon_lol: :icon_lol:<br />
<br /><br />Wade seems like he's part of the hoax though. <br /><br />Kind of a tangent but with all these Messianic words getting thrown around I can't help it: if it's sacred land, like the holy land, and Jesus and his followers are returning to Israel, then Michael is returning to neverland when he bams, along with his believing fans? And technically it is by "grace" that anyone gets there; the invitation isn't anything "earned", though you do make a choice to attend (and he could be selective about who gets in based on behavior lol, but the "grace" is how there's even an invitation in the first place) and the creator promised to do it. Michael being the creator of the hoax would mean everyone in the army of love is invited to neverland :icon_idea: :icon_question:. <br /><br />If that's true, I can see why the numbers had to dwindle. :LolLolLolLol:
<br />Alfonso Ribeiro On Michael Jackson Molestation Allegations: 'I Simply Won't Believe It'<br /><br />Access HollywoodAccess Hollywood – Wed, Aug 14, 2013<br /><br />Alfonso Ribeiro says he's always thought of his late friend Michael Jackson as a "child caught in a man's body," and it is one of the reasons he will never believe the molestation allegations against the entertainer.<br /><br />"Quite frankly, no matter how many reports or things, or what people say, I will never believe that Michael was any of the things that they want to report about him," he told Access Hollywood's Kit Hoover. "I won't believe it because being a kid and being 12, 13, and 14, knowing Michael Jackson and hanging out with Michael, it never occurred, it never seemed like it could have occurred. There was nothing ever questionable, I simply won't believe it."<br /><br />Ribeiro, who previously appeared in a Pepsi commercial opposite the pop star (he played a mini version of Jackson, complete with a "Beat It"-esque red jacket) has only innocent memories of the entertainer.<br /><br />PHOTOS: Michael Jackson & His Superstar Friends<br /><br />"At the end of the day Michael was a kid, and kids like hanging out with other kids, not adults, so I just think that he reached a point, you know, at that age where he just kind of stayed there," Ribeiro added.<br /><br />Ribeiro was just 12 years old when he was cast in the Pepsi commercial opposite Jackson.<br /><br />While speaking to Kit, Ribeiro said that working with Jackson was "the greatest thing that could have ever happened in my life at that time, I thought it was the coolest thing ever."<br /><br />"I looked at Michael and I still look at Michael this way, and I will always look at Michael this way: Michael was a man, he was a child caught in a man's body," Ribeiro said. "He is absolutely a child, and I viewed him that way."<br /><br />Copyright 2013 by NBC Universal, Inc. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.<br /><br /><br />http://news.yahoo.com/alfonso-ribeiro-michael-jackson-molestation-allegations-simply-wont-021020522.html
<br /><br />Thank you Faithadd for this POSITIVE article :bearhug: !!!<br />I had already read this and I was so happy , because I really needed to hear that, considering the circus around Mike .What I always liked about Alfonso, it's the fact that has always maintained the same opinion regarding Mike: one very positive :th_bravo: .<br />
<br /><br />Welcome Applehead. I felt the same after reading the article and that's why I posted it here. I have a lot of respect for people like Alfonso who are not afraid to speak the truth. <br />Speaking of the circus around Michael, It's so hard to tell who's lying and who's telling the truth, who's a "good guy" and who's the "bad guy" isn't it???<br />
<br />Can you believe this guy :WTF: :WTF: :WTF:??<br /><br />TSCM @MJJRepository 1mMJJR Exclusive Pic: Wade Robson staying overnight in Michael Jackson's Neverland guest house on February 3, 2007<br /><br /><br /><br />So was he still under Michael's brainwashing spells :icon_e_surprised: ? Was this part of the prophecy :icon_rolleyes: ? Who would want to go back to a place where they were repeatedly violated :Pulling_hair: ?<br /><br />WITHIN - 2007 short film by Wade Robson & Amanda Robson <br /><br /><br />He used it for that short movie he did with his wife in 2007, said thanks to Grace for setting the whole thing up. I wonder if Grace was on the phone to him and if Wade was begging for it? Interesting he had to get Grace to do it, like MJ didn't even get involved :suspect:.<br />We have to make sure this is saved as evidence for the estate.. this MOFO is going to call the place he claimed he was abused 'sacred land'?? :icon_eek: :icon_lol: :icon_lol: :icon_lol:<br />
<br /><br />Wade seems like he's part of the hoax though. <br /><br />Kind of a tangent but with all these Messianic words getting thrown around I can't help it: if it's sacred land, like the holy land, and Jesus and his followers are returning to Israel, then Michael is returning to neverland when he bams, along with his believing fans? And technically it is by "grace" that anyone gets there; the invitation isn't anything "earned", though you do make a choice to attend (and he could be selective about who gets in based on behavior lol, but the "grace" is how there's even an invitation in the first place) and the creator promised to do it. Michael being the creator of the hoax would mean everyone in the army of love is invited to neverland :icon_idea: :icon_question:. <br /><br />If that's true, I can see why the numbers had to dwindle. :LolLolLolLol:<br />
<br /><br />Yes ,It looks like that ,but who knows ,considering this circus :icon_e_wink: .<br />Your analogy it's very intresting and it sounds very good :th_bravo: :bearhug: .Let's hope it will become reality,because I have to say to Mike, a word or two :icon_geek: :icon_redface: :icon_lol: :icon_lol: :icon_lol: !!!!!
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