Is Michael in danger really? And what about Murray?

LiberianGirlLiberianGirl Posts: 341
edited January 1970 in General Hoax Investigation
We've discussed for lots of reasons why Michael could do this hoax. And lately I heard a lot about the threats he got and he did it because of them. But does it sound logical to you? It doesn't to me. Because Michael would NEVER EVER show his kids to NOONE if he and his family were in danger. Especially at the memorial, he pushed the kids into the spotlight. He would never do that if he thought that kids were in danger. If you think that he had to show his kids to make the death more reliable, I can say that he would have called his best friends to his memorial to make it look more reliable but he didn't even do that. Why would he show his kids?

And about Murray;

I have lots of questions in my mind. I thought about Murray a lot. If Michael was faking his death and if he would never ever going to come back, why would he involve Murray to the case? It would be easier if it was said that he had an heart attack and died. Michael could pay to Murray but Murray would never be in safe with the Jackson fanatics. Michael needs to come back to tell that he's innocent and did nothing to him. What do you think? Why did he involve Murray?
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  • neverlandprincessneverlandprincess Posts: 607
    good questions...I cannot imagine why MJ would WANT to die a supposed drug addict on some unknown drug. The danger theory has been working for me and the only one that was makin sense...but then there are the close friends issue. I dont know -Murray hmmmmm. We really need Annie back on board.
  • CCCC Posts: 2,136
    i think that in this case the cameras and paparazzi are on his side, they are protected for the public eye... if someone want to hurt this kids we are able to see this, because all the cameras they have around... just a thought! <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
  • q0txciityl0veq0txciityl0ve Posts: 358
    i agree.

    why show his children to the world if Michael was receiving threats & all?

    i think if he did not involve Murry & if it was just said he died of a heart attack, people would become extra skeptical as to how, why, etc.

    i'm just very confused :/
  • neverlandprincessneverlandprincess Posts: 607
    thats a good thought honestly CC,and your not the first to have it. Some think this is why he unovered them. The public did not know what they looked like...but whoever was a threat would have.
  • CCCC Posts: 2,136
    thanks neverlandprincess!
    he like it simple! <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
  • O-drey-OO-drey-O Posts: 243
    I completely understand... Murray has been in my mind since the beginning too. If i were a non believer I would be SO angry and deeply sad and frustrated to know him walking free.
    Here my thoughts:
    Murray was in the hoax. If Michael had supposedely died of an overdose all by himself, then it would not have been anybody being officially "guilty" but him ( <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? --> ). Michael would have been the only one who decided this and would have ended his life alone (god it hurts so much to tell that...). Then people would "lost" interest in his death...I mean, the cause of the death would be clear.
    Instead, it's an homicide, so there is someone who is guilty, but still free. The investigation is going and people kept questionning about the doctor and wants to know the truth. So the interest is still going, even growing around his death,because he is still free, to make us think more, think that something is not right , and little by little Michael would come back (I hope)
    Hope I make sense lol

    I'm not sure though, because I'm torn between this and the conspiracy theory. It may be the twos, who knows...

    And I agree about the kids <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) --> Ironically, it would be for their protection .
  • q0txciityl0veq0txciityl0ve Posts: 358
    i agree, o-drey-o.
    people would have labeled him even more severely as a drug addict.
    if he had "died" on his own, everyone would think that he allowed himself to die without thinking about his children.
    so they'll think he was indifferent about his children's feelings.

    but if there was someone else, dr. murry, involved...it looked as if he was he cause of Michael's death, not Michael himself.
  • LiberianGirlLiberianGirl Posts: 341
    thats a good thought honestly CC,and your not the first to have it. Some think this is why he unovered them. The public did not know what they looked like...but whoever was a threat would have.

    But is it easier to kill someone that you don't know what he/she looks like or is it easier to kill him/her if you know what she/he looks like. He tried to hide them so much and to me he would never show their faces in public especially like the memorial if he was under threat. How can media protect the kids? And would Michael trust and allow paprazzi to protect his kids? I don't think so.
  • LiberianGirlLiberianGirl Posts: 341
    I completely understand... Murray has been in my mind since the beginning too. If i were a non believer I would be SO angry and deeply sad and frustrated to know him walking free.
    Here my thoughts:
    Murray was in the hoax. If Michael had supposedely died of an overdose all by himself, then it would not have been anybody being officially "guilty" but him ( <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? --> ). Michael would have been the only one who decided this and would have ended his life alone (god it hurts so much to tell that...). Then people would "lost" interest in his death...I mean, the cause of the death would be clear.
    Instead, it's an homicide, so there is someone who is guilty, but still free. The investigation is going and people kept questionning about the doctor and wants to know the truth. So the interest is still going, even growing around his death,because he is still free, to make us think more, think that something is not right , and little by little Michael would come back (I hope)
    Hope I make sense lol

    I'm not sure though, because I'm torn between this and the conspiracy theory. It may be the twos, who knows...

    And I agree about the kids <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) --> Ironically, it would be for their protection .

    You definitely make sense hon. That can be the ONLY reason why he involved Murray in this. To keep the interest grow! Otherwise there is no logical explanation for Murray.

    Do you guys think that we can see a fiction case about the death? I think that's possible if Michael is not going to come back. To make fans relieve a little about Murray being free.
  • neverlandprincessneverlandprincess Posts: 607
    thats a good thought honestly CC,and your not the first to have it. Some think this is why he unovered them. The public did not know what they looked like...but whoever was a threat would have.

    But is it easier to kill someone that you don't know what he/she looks like or is it easier to kill him/her if you know what she/he looks like. He tried to hide them so much and to me he would never show their faces in public especially like the memorial if he was under threat. How can media protect the kids? And would Michael trust and allow paprazzi to protect his kids? I don't think so.

    No but understand what I am saying-not that the pap would be the protectors,but would the pap be around kid they did not know who they were? NO,but they will follow around Michael Jacksons kids...his kids are hot topic right now. THE CROWD THAT IS AROUND WOULD MAKE IT HARDER> It is hard to kidnap or kill someone if they are surrounded all the time. Also if it was him and his assets that were the target ,they may not mess with the kids at least not now. He hid them when they were babies and young like Blanket. And what I was saying was-the WORLD did not know what they looked like-because he kept them hidden...BUT if the threat worked with him then they knew what the kids looked like. SO its harder with EVERYONE seeing them to get them. Of course the kids themselves being in danger may be a seperate thing then MJ being in danger.
  • CCCC Posts: 2,136
    @neverlandprincess
    thanks for the explanation...
    english is not my first language and i was trying to explain and you did it!
    BIG THANK YOU!!! that´s what i wa strying to say! <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
  • LiberianGirlLiberianGirl Posts: 341
    thats a good thought honestly CC,and your not the first to have it. Some think this is why he unovered them. The public did not know what they looked like...but whoever was a threat would have.

    But is it easier to kill someone that you don't know what he/she looks like or is it easier to kill him/her if you know what she/he looks like. He tried to hide them so much and to me he would never show their faces in public especially like the memorial if he was under threat. How can media protect the kids? And would Michael trust and allow paprazzi to protect his kids? I don't think so.

    No but understand what I am saying-not that the pap would be the protectors,but would the pap be around kid they did not know who they were? NO,but they will follow around Michael Jacksons kids...his kids are hot topic right now. THE CROWD THAT IS AROUND WOULD MAKE IT HARDER> It is hard to kidnap or kill someone if they are surrounded all the time. Also if it was him and his assets that were the target ,they may not mess with the kids at least not now. He hid them when they were babies and young like Blanket. And what I was saying was-the WORLD did not know what they looked like-because he kept them hidden...BUT if the threat worked with him then they knew what the kids looked like. SO its harder with EVERYONE seeing them to get them. Of course the kids themselves being in danger may be a seperate thing then MJ being in danger.

    For now yep they're in the media but as you said it will be dangerous again for them later on. That's what I'm trying to say. Michael thinks so wide and for further too. He would do nothing to put them in danger. And I believe that these threats would be dangerous for the kids and the entire family too. But I got your point CC <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) --> and thanx for explaining Princess <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) --> <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->
  • LiberianGirlLiberianGirl Posts: 341
    i agree, o-drey-o.
    people would have labeled him even more severely as a drug addict.
    if he had "died" on his own, everyone would think that he allowed himself to die without thinking about his children.
    so they'll think he was indifferent about his children's feelings.

    but if there was someone else, dr. murry, involved...it looked as if he was he cause of Michael's death, not Michael himself.

    It's so offtopic but I had to say this; I LOVED your siggy girl. Wow you did a great job there. Your picture and Michael's, I liked it a lot <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->
  • q0txciityl0veq0txciityl0ve Posts: 358
    thank you <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) -->
    i like yours also,
    especially the left one...when he bites his lip <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) -->
  • LiberianGirlLiberianGirl Posts: 341
    thank you <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) -->
    i like yours also,
    especially the left one...when he bites his lip <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) -->

    yeah it makes you want to bite his lips too lol <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: --> <!-- s:twisted: -->:twisted:<!-- s:twisted: -->
  • LiberianGirlLiberianGirl Posts: 341
    Do you guys think that we can see a fiction case about the death? I think that's possible if Michael is not going to come back. To make fans relieve a little bit about Murray being free.
  • O-drey-OO-drey-O Posts: 243
    Do you guys think that we can see a fiction case about the death? I think that's possible if Michael is not going to come back. To make fans relieve a little bit about Murray being free.

    I'm sorry I don't know what you mean ... <!-- s:oops: -->:oops:<!-- s:oops: --> What would make fans relieve? There still would be someone who killed Michael Jackson walking free like all of us... <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? --> I must have misunderstood your post...
  • neverlandprincessneverlandprincess Posts: 607
    Do you guys think that we can see a fiction case about the death? I think that's possible if Michael is not going to come back. To make fans relieve a little bit about Murray being free.
    I'm sorry I dont really understand the question <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D --> Ilike your sig too. I always love it when he bites the lip. <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
  • roxy101roxy101 Posts: 143
    Well I think he revealed the kids just for this reason, because what else was he supposed to do?

    If him being in danger really was the case, it's not like he could "die" and take them with him so they had to lay the groundwork for them to transition into thei rnormal life.

    If the threat was against him then whoever was threatening him would assume he were really dead and then the children could just live....because I think the public would question it a lot more if they were still in their masks. Can you imagine them in their masks at the memorial for example? See that'd be a little weird.
  • LiberianGirlLiberianGirl Posts: 341
    I mean a fiction (not real) trial of Murray about the death case <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) --> Well a trial would be better than nothing I guess. We know that Murray did nothing wrong but for the ones who think that he killed Michael, a trial at least would be better than nothing. That's what I meant <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) -->
  • LiberianGirlLiberianGirl Posts: 341
    Well I think he revealed the kids just for this reason, because what else was he supposed to do?

    If him being in danger really was the case, it's not like he could "die" and take them with him so they had to lay the groundwork for them to transition into thei rnormal life.

    If the threat was against him then whoever was threatening him would assume he were really dead and then the children could just live....because I think the public would question it a lot more if they were still in their masks. Can you imagine them in their masks at the memorial for example? See that'd be a little weird.

    not in masks but they could say that the kids were too sad to join the memorial or could find something to say <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) -->
  • CCCC Posts: 2,136
    I mean a fiction (not real) trial of Murray about the death case <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) --> Well a trial would be better than nothing I guess. We know that Murray did nothing wrong but for the ones who think that he killed Michael, a trial at least would be better than nothing. That's what I meant <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) -->

    maybe they are taking this six months to make the fiction trial! <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
  • neverlandprincessneverlandprincess Posts: 607
    I mean a fiction (not real) trial of Murray about the death case <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) --> Well a trial would be better than nothing I guess. We know that Murray did nothing wrong but for the ones who think that he killed Michael, a trial at least would be better than nothing. That's what I meant <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) -->

    maybe they are taking this six months to make the fiction trial! <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->

    hahaha <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: --> I hope that is not the case..then everyone will be lookin at us like "I told you so". <!-- s:| -->:|<!-- s:| -->
  • O-drey-OO-drey-O Posts: 243
    Ok thank you for the explaination <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) -->
    And you mean a trial that would find Murray not guilty? Because the contrary would be impossible to do I think lol
    Otherwise well...I don't know, could be difficult to make it real but who knows... everything seem so fake for us but the other people actually believe it so ... <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) --> . Personally, If I were a non believer that would be not enough for me <!-- s:x -->:x<!-- s:x --> it may angers me more because it would be an homocide without a guilty ... it would even be more frustrating ...but it's just my opinion <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: -->
  • q0txciityl0veq0txciityl0ve Posts: 358
    i think what Liberian Girl meant was a fake trial that would indicate Murray to be guilty. i think it is reasonable, considering that i kinda fear for his life from angry MJ fans who believe he murdered MJ. not trying to be mean or anything.
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