Death Certificate..? World Exclusive Claim?

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  • yepp,cuz shes in Germany till waht..the 16th.. <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: -->
    and she went there directly from Poland.... She wasn't in USA since 30.12.2009
  • susie_23susie_23 Posts: 240
    What's she doing in Europe?
    Serious question; I honestly don't know.
  • What's she doing in Europe?
    Serious question; I honestly don't know.
    In Poland she was on New Years Eve, doing countdown, then she stayed couple of days, she was seeing shopping and sightseeing. She put some videos on her YT profile: <!-- m -->http://www.youtube.com/user/latoyaonline<!-- m -->
    Now, she's in Germany. I don't know exactly what she's doing there, but JacksonSource confirmed, she's there.
    It's funny actually... another Jackson going to Germany in shortly time... Joe is often here, La Toya was also there 2 months ago...
  • susie_23susie_23 Posts: 240
    Wasn't there a rumor that MJ was in Berlin?
    Odd.
  • I remember Latoya saying on tv that she is an L.A.P.D officer, she had to go through training for a reality tv program... Has anybody seen the actual program, or is the reality thing what is going on now?
  • News of the World has NEVER been a reliable source. It is as close to tabloid news as you can get! <!-- s:| -->:|<!-- s:| --> I wouldn't waste too much time dwelling and worrying about this article.
    THANK YOU! Guys come on! These guys are just tabloid trash. Most of the media can't be trusted in the first place, but THESE guys are at the top of the media that you should not trust, PERIOD. Chillax.
  • LorrieLorrie Posts: 232
    For those who don't know yet, reputable Entertainment Weekly published an article today that states they "confirmed with the L.A. County coroner’s office that the document, which is part of the public record, is genuine."

    The document in question is the amended death certificate that trashy News of the World published, which Entertainment Weekly's article links to directly. So, it seems the amendment to Michael's death certificate may be real.

    However, I specify "may" (1) given the original source and (2) the fact that Entertainment Weekly has previously had to recant information it published.

    LINK to Entertainment Weekly article: Michael Jackson death certificate ruling homicide appears online
  • simplymesimplyme Posts: 649
    its got the embalmer's name on it!! <!-- s:shock: -->:shock:<!-- s:shock: --> JESUS MIGUEL RUIZ

    SOMETHING HAS JUST POPPED OUT!!!

    it says DEPOSITION DATE 07/07/09 FORREST LAWN..

    THEN IT SAY DEPOSTION TEMP!! what does that mean!!! i thought he was buried there!!

    They put TEMP on there when he died. They weren't sure what they were going to do I guess;
  • simplymesimplyme Posts: 649
    News of the World have run with a story that they have obtained copy of MJ death certificate that has never been published before.

    Link: <!-- m -->http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/news/66 ... icide.html<!-- m -->

    Michael Jackson: It WAS homicide

    By James Desborough, 10/01/2010

    MICHAEL Jackson's death certificate rules he WAS murdered, the News of the World can reveal.

    We obtained a copy of the document and an amendment to it - that have never been published.

    On the original July 7 certificate deputy coroner Cheryl MacWillie refuses to give a cause of death.

    But after further probes, it is amended on August 31 by medical examiner Christopher Rogers to "homicide".

    He concludes Jacko died from "acute Propofol intoxication" due to an "intra-venous injection by another".

    Meanwhile Jacko's doctor Conrad Murray, 56, has hired a hotshot lawyer in case he is charged over the June 25 death.

    Jacko basks in the applause at the end of his final concert in LA.

    Hollywood legal eagle Michael Flanagan saved a nurse from a murder charge when she was accused of wrongly administering painkiller Propofol.

    Murray already has a Houston law firm building his defence. Police affidavits say he admitted loading up Jacko, 50, with Propofol and other drugs in the hours before his death.

    The prosecution is likely to use lawyer Patrick Dixon, who helped put Phil Spector behind bars.

    Dr. Conrad Murray, Jacko's doctor

    But yesterday a Jackson family source said: "We are all keeping our faith with the police. We want them to do this case properly and put away the man who we feel is responsible for Michael's death.

    "We want the authorities though to release details of what happened to Michael in his last few hours. We want the paperwork to come out to show just what drugs were put inside him and what happened in his last few hours alive.

    "Much of the documentation has been kept secret - and we can't understand it.

    "We still feel that there is more than one person responsible for Michael's tragic death. Joe won't give up on getting justice for his son and a lawuit is his focus."

    doc1: <!-- m -->http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/multime ... 81075a.jpg<!-- m -->

    doc2: <!-- m -->http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/multime ... 81072a.jpg<!-- m -->

    Last night a coroners office worker explained the void branding on the forms was issued by the health authority which holds the documents. They brand forms like this to avoid them from being used for fraudulent purposes.

    Trying to sell papers. This isn't new news.
  • GraceGrace Posts: 2,864
    Again, did you notice:
    the various MJ DCs consist of some other paper copied into the DC blanks. You'll see the frames of the copy. The size of the included documents does vary from each version that I have seen so far and differs from DCs of other persons. Even the character size and font types are different.

    If this were the true output of californian authorities, I would honestly be worried about administration in the U.S.
    Come on, they are discussing "fingerprint payment" and "iris eye identification" hence cannot get a DC right? To me this is either proof of fake or middle age sloppyness.
  • maybe they fixed it up because we were having so many questions because there were so many different things gong on in the old DC...
    Or maybe the old DC's were fake and the new one is the actualy DC. People said the old DC's were fake however if the '" Jacksons" could make a fake DC of MJ then so could some person trying to mess with peoples emotions
    who knows this whole thing is just confusing me i dont know what to think anymore...sadly i think this investigation is coming to a end...but we will find out eventually...hopefully because i not the one to jump on a rollercoaster to often...
  • doc1: <!-- m -->http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/multime<!-- m --> ... 81075a.jpg

    Jonathan Fielding MD is listed as the signing Local registrar. He has wiki page.
    Jonathan E. Fielding M.D., M.P.H., M.A., M.B.A. is the Director of the Department of Public Health and is the Health Officer for Los Angeles County.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Fielding

    The signatory for the LA Coroners Office is Cheryl Macwillie. She is a Coroner's Lieutenant and Spokesperson.
    Los Angeles County Coroner's Lt. Cheryl MacWillie
    http://www.123people.com/s/cheryl+macwillie

    The embalmer is listed as Jesus Miguel Ruiz - license number 8473
    CEMETERY AND FUNERAL BUREAU
    Licensee Name: RUIZ JESUS MIGUEL
    License Type: EMBALMER
    License Number: 8473
    License Status: CLEAR Definition
    Expiration Date: April 30, 2010
    Issue Date: April 08, 1998
    County: LOS ANGELES
    http://www2.dca.ca.gov/pls/wllpub/WLLQRYNA$LCEV2.QueryView?P_LICENSE_NUMBER=8473&P_LTE_ID=728


    doc2: <!-- m -->http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/multime<!-- m --> ... 81072a.jpg

    Christopher Rogers MD as the certifying Physician or Coroner. He is listed at the:
    LOS ANGELES COUNTY MEDICAL EXAMINER-CORONER
    Forensic Medicine - Christopher Rogers, M.D. 323-343-0715
    http://www.calema.ca.gov/WebPage/oeswebsite.nsf/0/24E79A109ABCF25B8825743C007AB077?OpenDocument

    All of these people seem to really exist.... <!-- s:( -->:(<!-- s:( -->


    Im sure someone on the old MJHD site telephoned the Embalmer and spoke with him, cant for the life of me remember what the reply said exactly. <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: -->
  • ShoutShout Posts: 560
    its got the embalmer's name on it!! <!-- s:shock: -->:shock:<!-- s:shock: --> JESUS MIGUEL RUIZ

    SOMETHING HAS JUST POPPED OUT!!!

    it says DEPOSITION DATE 07/07/09 FORREST LAWN..

    THEN IT SAY DEPOSTION TEMP!! what does that mean!!! i thought he was buried there!!

    Why are so many people do not listen to me... <!-- s:( -->:(<!-- s:( -->
    Please take a look here, there has been alot discussed and it will answer your questions. Many topics are discussed there not only that the burial on September might be not true:

    Here the link:http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=2982
  • simplymesimplyme Posts: 649
    Why there's LaToya's name on it? Is it because she did the formal stuff regarding funeral or is it because she applied for getting this document? If it's so, then it must be fake, 'cause she couldn't apply it, being since 30.12.2009 till now in Europe...

    Every death record has an informant. It can be anyone that informed. In this case it was Latoya. That death certicate was done months ago. Look at the date on it - not the puchase date that is probably on the bottom. It's not fake.
  • The Death Certificate is bogus there are no signatures on it only names so no signature means no legal laws broken. I have searched and looked over death certificates of celebs I KNOW are dead and there is always a handwritten signature plus they still have him listed at Havenhurst but the missing signatures mean to me anyway that he is alive. <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->
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