I hope this isn't a Jesus type of thing, either...but do you guys recall the 1996 BRIT awards? That wasn't a good move, and was not received well, of course.
yeah i dont quite remember those awards but my mom (an Mj fan) told me about them and that performance disappointed her and when she told me it disappointed me.
but i think many try to be artistic or try to compare their lives to Jesus' especially if they were betrayed in the past they might compare themselves to Jesus because we all know Jesus was betrayed.
im not sure why Kanye did it tho but remember when Kanye was on the cover of some magazine with a crown of thorns on his head?
thats one thing about Mj that i just *clinch* wish hadnt of happened
I don't really understand why people think Michael would try and emulate Jesus if he did come back at Christmas.
Hasn't he clearly stated that he isn't Jesus? Surely most people can see that too!
If he does come back around the 25th December, it'll probably be either as himself, or dressed as Santa, maybe giving out presents to children in hospital - that is what I'd love to see him do.
Please have faith in Michael - he knows what he's doing. I think he'll come back slowly too, but that is just my opinion.
I don't really understand why people think Michael would try and emulate Jesus if he did come back at Christmas.
Hasn't he clearly stated that he isn't Jesus? Surely most people can see that too!
If he does come back around the 25th December, it'll probably be either as himself, or dressed as Santa, maybe giving out presents to children in hospital - that is what I'd love to see him do.
Please have faith in Michael - he knows what he's doing. I think he'll come back slowly too, but that is just my opinion.
<!-- s --><!-- s --> wouldnt that just be the best christmas you ever recieved. Wouldnt care about the presents.. Id just wast santa ! <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
I believe we are moving into another phase... the Awakening!
There is something going on right now involving the next 7 weeks which would bring us to Jan. 18 (MLK Day). This site is directing us on what to think and do. There will be 1 message, 1 clue, 1 mission each week for 7 weeks. This person is also on Twitter w. information.
Remember the three crystal 7's on MJ's red shirt... this could have something to do with this? they signify the clues, the messages, the missions?
I hope you are all right in your assumptions that MJ will be coming back soon. I still have this odd feeling that he will wait until at least June, so he can rest up and be well prepared.
I hope that it is the calm before the storm. There are no clues right now (at least not that I´m aware of).
Of course it´s always good to look into the older stuff, but actually it would be nice to hear or read at least something..
Maby you can looke at the post from Robbie Wiliams,,King of Pop,,??
I saw some odd things there..but nobody is looking anymore?
Maby it is nothing..and i see things that arent there??
Greetings Mattie
Paralleling Jesus Christ, the son of God would be a huge mistake and I've been quite worried this might be the case.
As a Catholic I would not be impressed and I wouldn't condone it, the reaction of the Pope would be interesting.
I hope he doesn't view himself in a messiah kind of context but his official biographer (I forget his name) has stated before that he has in the past during the HIStory period of his career and if that is true then he perhaps still does but I hope he uses his common sense and comes to the right decision on the date, it should be January 1st as it would symbolize a new beginning and era.
But you never know with Michael, I know he is said to be religious and spiritual but he did renounce his religion quite some years ago and that whether you like it or not, is a direct contradiction to statements from different people and him.
Is he religious? I'm not so sure. Spiritual? I think he is, yes.
If he's alive and planning a comeback then he has to approach this with the most ultimate amount of care, the media reaction from all corners is going to be terrible in the first place and if it comes on the date of Jesus' birth the Catholic and Christian churches, nation's across the World and individual's that are devout in their allegiance to God will all be against him also whether their fans of his or not, this could turn out to be a disastrous move and I'm quite nervous.
I hope I'm just being a male drama Queen here but.. I can't help looking at this in the most negative light =
According to the Rabbi's book Michael did have a 'Messiah complex'..Many people view him as kind of a God, and perhaps in the finish he started to buy into his own image somewhat..This would just point to how out of touch with reality he was becoming if what the Rabbi says is true..
I love Michael very much..I do believe that sometimes people are used as instruments by God to do good here on earth..To do Gods work on earth..Michael certainly did a lot of good. I prefer to think of him as an earthly angel..Sort of like Princess Diana who was also a great humaniterian..
I dont know if Michael will ever come back..I do believe he has tried to communicate with his fans..It is as difficult for him as it is for his fans as there are so many fakes out there.
I just want him to know if he reads this board that he is truely loved..I just want him to be happy and to be safe and healthy..
I dont know if we will get anymore clues..Perhaps we are at the end now..We have to decide how long we will all continue to meet here..I have made some wonderful friendships along the way..So from my point of view if nothing else happens it's still been worth it..Of course I want some concrete proof that Mike is still alive..But that may never come..Sadly.x
What calm? What storm?
I am breathless from all the information that is pouring in and can't follow and you are talking about a calm before the storm?
The winds have already set in.
Those who listen will hear, those who keep their eyes open will see.
MJ the entertainer is not the subject anymore - don't play your mind with that memory and whether this MJ is coming back. He will not.
But he's here with us, right here right now and you still don't notice him?
He's reading us, he's responding us and you still are looking for him elsewhere?
hi grace! what are you trying to say? i thought that maybe he not return to the stages but i feel he is alive and i believe that he comeback to the fans...
He will show up when he wants to, i dont get attached to dates picked out of thin air!, dont think it will be xmas or january, its whenever HE decides to <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) --> Hope its soon though <!-- s --><!-- s -->
I don't know that Michael will return to the stage, but he doesn't have to. He doesn't owe us anything! He gave us 45 years of himself. I am fortunate enough to have gotten to experience 38 of them. As I said on the old MJKIT, I can let go of the entertainer as long as I know the man is alive and well. I feel he will let us know that on the day he chooses. He is in control, it is his life and the lives of his children. I trust him, believe in him, and love him completely. He knows what is best and he will do it in his time.
I don't know that Michael will return to the stage, but he doesn't have to. He doesn't owe us anything! He gave us 45 years of himself. I am fortunate enough to have gotten to experience 38 of them. As I said on the old MJKIT, I can let go of the entertainer as long as I know the man is alive and well. I feel he will let us know that on the day he chooses. He is in control, it is his life and the lives of his children. I trust him, believe in him, and love him completely. He knows what is best and he will do it in his time.
I think its important to partially let go of the celebrity and focus on the man. He was a human being which i'm sure loved being admired everywhere he went but still I'm sure he wished he could have had people who would treat him like normalty and not royalty ALL THE TIME.
I'm not discrediting his talent. he is very talented. I'm just saying.. <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) -->
Christmas is too predictable and every hoax believing fan would love that gift. Mj is not predictable. His gift would likely come when no gift is expected.
The Jackson family members have tons of projects coming up in the next few months: Jack5ons Reality show, Janet's European tour in early 2010 and Jermaine's tribute concert. Plus per the Jack5ons website, the Jacksons plan a 40th anniversary concert to celebrate the group's history and overall career. LOL...I'm still trying to understand how they hope to pull that off when a key member is missing. Bottom line: People are watching that family carefully for clues. The family members are resurrecting their careers. If MJ were to return, the Jacksons would fade back into oblivion.
I'm going to play devil's advocate and ask a question. What is your inner deadline, your cutoff point for how long you will wait for a return? Is it 6 months, 12 months, 18 months, longer? Fans may have to face that tough question as each month or "special date" passes. It will be interesting to see how small these forums become as the months come and go.
well im thinking easter,i can just about last till june ,then i feel i really will end up in a padded cell,i cant do an elvis believer ,not that long no way
Christmas is too predictable and every hoax believing fan would love that gift. Mj is not predictable. His gift would likely come when no gift is expected.
The Jackson family members have tons of projects coming up in the next few months: Jack5ons Reality show, Janet's European tour in early 2010 and Jermaine's tribute concert. Plus per the Jack5ons website, the Jacksons plan a 40th anniversary concert to celebrate the group's history and overall career. LOL...I'm still trying to understand how they hope to pull that off when a key member is missing. Bottom line: People are watching that family carefully for clues. The family members are resurrecting their careers. If MJ were to return, the Jacksons would fade back into oblivion.
I'm going to play devil's advocate and ask a question. What is your inner deadline, your cutoff point for how long you will wait for a return? Is it 6 months, 12 months, 18 months, longer? Fans may have to face that tough question as each month or "special date" passes. It will be interesting to see how small these forums become as the months come and go.
i honestly don't know my cutoff point. the thing with the christmas expectations is that some will feel it is too predictable, so that could be the exact reason he could choose that date to return. but personally, i'm not putting much faith in that date, or any date. i am thinking he will come back when it's least expected...so maybe i don't really have a deadline. but it's only natural that all these dates, like christmas and june 2010 will be lingering in the back of my mind. i guess i'll know better where i stand as far as a return after june next year.
I will hold on until June. If July 1st comes and nothing happens I will let go. He cannot come back later than June, it will be too late, people will be too cooled down. Even June seems too far for a big BAM but I will wait until then. If nothing happens, I will cry again, try to convince myself that he is alive but out of the media's eyes and let go but live after his messages
weird things still are happening including the werid coincidences that have already happened.. must i recall them? <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) --> i hope we all sit tight and just watch it all unfold.
I'm with you! Ever since this all went down I have been sitting back waiting and I've not been let down yet! The TII movie and not to mention Janet's little interview where she said she received the bad news that "morning" at her "home in NY"!! Those two things have just made my faith so much stronger...really. I normally don't eat popcorn but I have started since all this went down. Stay strong people!
Paralleling Jesus Christ, the son of God would be a huge mistake and I've been quite worried this might be the case.
As a Catholic I would not be impressed and I wouldn't condone it, the reaction of the Pope would be interesting.
I hope he doesn't view himself in a messiah kind of context but his official biographer (I forget his name) has stated before that he has in the past during the HIStory period of his career and if that is true then he perhaps still does but I hope he uses his common sense and comes to the right decision on the date, it should be January 1st as it would symbolize a new beginning and era.
But you never know with Michael, I know he is said to be religious and spiritual but he did renounce his religion quite some years ago and that whether you like it or not, is a direct contradiction to statements from different people and him.
Is he religious? I'm not so sure. Spiritual? I think he is, yes.
If he's alive and planning a comeback then he has to approach this with the most ultimate amount of care, the media reaction from all corners is going to be terrible in the first place and if it comes on the date of Jesus' birth the Catholic and Christian churches, nation's across the World and individual's that are devout in their allegiance to God will all be against him also whether their fans of his or not, this could turn out to be a disastrous move and I'm quite nervous.
I hope I'm just being a male drama Queen here but.. I can't help looking at this in the most negative light =
According to the Rabbi's book Michael did have a 'Messiah complex'..Many people view him as kind of a God, and perhaps in the finish he started to buy into his own image somewhat..This would just point to how out of touch with reality he was becoming if what the Rabbi says is true..
I love Michael very much..I do believe that sometimes people are used as instruments by God to do good here on earth..To do Gods work on earth..Michael certainly did a lot of good. I prefer to think of him as an earthly angel..Sort of like Princess Diana who was also a great humaniterian..
I dont know if Michael will ever come back..I do believe he has tried to communicate with his fans..It is as difficult for him as it is for his fans as there are so many fakes out there.
I just want him to know if he reads this board that he is truely loved..I just want him to be happy and to be safe and healthy..
I dont know if we will get anymore clues..Perhaps we are at the end now..We have to decide how long we will all continue to meet here..I have made some wonderful friendships along the way..So from my point of view if nothing else happens it's still been worth it..Of course I want some concrete proof that Mike is still alive..But that may never come..Sadly.x
You have to remember that what the Rabbi talks about in his book are conversations from 1999 till about 2001. I think after the Trial in 2005 you could see a change in the way Michael handled himself and the way he saw himself.
Also Michael cut off the Rabbi from his life when the Rabi stole money from their foundation around 2002/2003 so I personally don't belie everything that comes from that mans mouth.
I hope this is a calm before the storm but I don't think we can know anything for sure.
We'll just have to wait and see...and investigate in the meantime <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
"The Jackson family members have tons of projects coming up in the next few months: Jack5ons Reality show, Janet's European tour in early 2010 and Jermaine's tribute concert. Plus per the Jack5ons website, the Jacksons plan a 40th anniversary concert to celebrate the group's history and overall career. LOL...I'm still trying to understand how they hope to pull that off when a key member is missing. Bottom line: People are watching that family carefully for clues. The family members are resurrecting their careers. If MJ were to return, the Jacksons would fade back into oblivion.
I'm going to play devil's advocate and ask a question. What is your inner deadline, your cutoff point for how long you will wait for a return? Is it 6 months, 12 months, 18 months, longer? Fans may have to face that tough question as each month or "special date" passes. It will be interesting to see how small these forums become as the months come and go."
at this point i don't know if he comeback, i'm sure he is alive... <!-- s:P -->:P<!-- s:P -->
if he comeback maybe will be at 40th aniversary concert... maybe the project that was left years ago now is resurrecting... maybe all the theory of the contract until june 2010 it's true... <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: -->
I don't know that Michael will return to the stage, but he doesn't have to. He doesn't owe us anything! He gave us 45 years of himself. I am fortunate enough to have gotten to experience 38 of them. As I said on the old MJKIT, I can let go of the entertainer as long as I know the man is alive and well. I feel he will let us know that on the day he chooses. He is in control, it is his life and the lives of his children. I trust him, believe in him, and love him completely. He knows what is best and he will do it in his time.
Agree! He doesn`t have to return on stage again, if he don`t want to. He needs to start think about what he wants for himself, not what other people expect or wants from him. He deserves a peaceful and happy life with his children, and do what ever he likes. I would just love it if he desides to come back, regardless of what day he choose. We just need to trust him, and keep the faith.
I have had the pleasure to experience his great talent for 36 years now, and i`m so happy and grateful for that he shared his wonderful gift with us for 45 years of his life. So take the time you need Michael, i will always love you and i will be here waiting for you <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
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yeah i dont quite remember those awards but my mom (an Mj fan) told me about them and that performance disappointed her and when she told me it disappointed me.
but i think many try to be artistic or try to compare their lives to Jesus' especially if they were betrayed in the past they might compare themselves to Jesus because we all know Jesus was betrayed.
im not sure why Kanye did it tho but remember when Kanye was on the cover of some magazine with a crown of thorns on his head?
thats one thing about Mj that i just *clinch* wish hadnt of happened
Hasn't he clearly stated that he isn't Jesus? Surely most people can see that too!
If he does come back around the 25th December, it'll probably be either as himself, or dressed as Santa, maybe giving out presents to children in hospital - that is what I'd love to see him do.
Please have faith in Michael - he knows what he's doing. I think he'll come back slowly too, but that is just my opinion.
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There is something going on right now involving the next 7 weeks which would bring us to Jan. 18 (MLK Day). This site is directing us on what to think and do. There will be 1 message, 1 clue, 1 mission each week for 7 weeks. This person is also on Twitter w. information.
Remember the three crystal 7's on MJ's red shirt... this could have something to do with this? they signify the clues, the messages, the missions?
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All I can say is there is alot of L.O.V.E. going on over on Twitter! I think this is in Twitter thread here.
Maby you can looke at the post from Robbie Wiliams,,King of Pop,,??
I saw some odd things there..but nobody is looking anymore?
Maby it is nothing..and i see things that arent there??
Greetings Mattie
I love Michael very much..I do believe that sometimes people are used as instruments by God to do good here on earth..To do Gods work on earth..Michael certainly did a lot of good. I prefer to think of him as an earthly angel..Sort of like Princess Diana who was also a great humaniterian..
I dont know if Michael will ever come back..I do believe he has tried to communicate with his fans..It is as difficult for him as it is for his fans as there are so many fakes out there.
I just want him to know if he reads this board that he is truely loved..I just want him to be happy and to be safe and healthy..
I dont know if we will get anymore clues..Perhaps we are at the end now..We have to decide how long we will all continue to meet here..I have made some wonderful friendships along the way..So from my point of view if nothing else happens it's still been worth it..Of course I want some concrete proof that Mike is still alive..But that may never come..Sadly.x
hi grace! what are you trying to say? i thought that maybe he not return to the stages but i feel he is alive and i believe that he comeback to the fans...
I think its important to partially let go of the celebrity and focus on the man. He was a human being which i'm sure loved being admired everywhere he went but still I'm sure he wished he could have had people who would treat him like normalty and not royalty ALL THE TIME.
I'm not discrediting his talent. he is very talented. I'm just saying.. <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) -->
The Jackson family members have tons of projects coming up in the next few months: Jack5ons Reality show, Janet's European tour in early 2010 and Jermaine's tribute concert. Plus per the Jack5ons website, the Jacksons plan a 40th anniversary concert to celebrate the group's history and overall career. LOL...I'm still trying to understand how they hope to pull that off when a key member is missing. Bottom line: People are watching that family carefully for clues. The family members are resurrecting their careers. If MJ were to return, the Jacksons would fade back into oblivion.
I'm going to play devil's advocate and ask a question. What is your inner deadline, your cutoff point for how long you will wait for a return? Is it 6 months, 12 months, 18 months, longer? Fans may have to face that tough question as each month or "special date" passes. It will be interesting to see how small these forums become as the months come and go.
i honestly don't know my cutoff point. the thing with the christmas expectations is that some will feel it is too predictable, so that could be the exact reason he could choose that date to return. but personally, i'm not putting much faith in that date, or any date. i am thinking he will come back when it's least expected...so maybe i don't really have a deadline. but it's only natural that all these dates, like christmas and june 2010 will be lingering in the back of my mind. i guess i'll know better where i stand as far as a return after june next year.
I'm with you! Ever since this all went down I have been sitting back waiting and I've not been let down yet! The TII movie and not to mention Janet's little interview where she said she received the bad news that "morning" at her "home in NY"!! Those two things have just made my faith so much stronger...really. I normally don't eat popcorn but I have started since all this went down. Stay strong people!
You have to remember that what the Rabbi talks about in his book are conversations from 1999 till about 2001. I think after the Trial in 2005 you could see a change in the way Michael handled himself and the way he saw himself.
Also Michael cut off the Rabbi from his life when the Rabi stole money from their foundation around 2002/2003 so I personally don't belie everything that comes from that mans mouth.
I hope this is a calm before the storm but I don't think we can know anything for sure.
We'll just have to wait and see...and investigate in the meantime <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
I'm going to play devil's advocate and ask a question. What is your inner deadline, your cutoff point for how long you will wait for a return? Is it 6 months, 12 months, 18 months, longer? Fans may have to face that tough question as each month or "special date" passes. It will be interesting to see how small these forums become as the months come and go."
at this point i don't know if he comeback, i'm sure he is alive... <!-- s:P -->:P<!-- s:P -->
if he comeback maybe will be at 40th aniversary concert... maybe the project that was left years ago now is resurrecting... maybe all the theory of the contract until june 2010 it's true... <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: -->
Agree! He doesn`t have to return on stage again, if he don`t want to. He needs to start think about what he wants for himself, not what other people expect or wants from him. He deserves a peaceful and happy life with his children, and do what ever he likes. I would just love it if he desides to come back, regardless of what day he choose. We just need to trust him, and keep the faith.
I have had the pleasure to experience his great talent for 36 years now, and i`m so happy and grateful for that he shared his wonderful gift with us for 45 years of his life. So take the time you need Michael, i will always love you and i will be here waiting for you <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->