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  • I had posted this on another thread in this forum, but I wanted to be sure you all saw this too...for I believe it is particularly relevant here and I hope you will share it with everyone you can...as soon as you can....

    <!-- m -->http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EI8RTbJLTbY<!-- m -->!

    Peace to you all!
    Stay focused!
    BeLIEve!
  • Well said Souza, i've been here since day 1 and admire what you and Mo are doing. The last thing we need is another MJHD so I suggest if these so called fans don't like this site then you know where the door is.
  • Hi Mo & Souza, I'm not sure what is really going on because I don't get a chance to check the board very often and have been less involved since you switched board formats. What I wanted to say is this, I so much appreciate that you have this place to discuss all things MJ "death" related.

    I did not consider myself a fan either (since the Thriller days), I had my own life to live and didn't much pay attention to MJ over the years. However, since the "death" I had noticed inconsistencies right away. One would think that these are blatently obivious if a person that did not "follow" MJ could notice them. It still stymies me that the media is not picking up on these things or if they are, not reporting them for whatever reasons.

    While I do not always agree with the various theories you put out there, I always marvel at the amount of work/thought that the two of you put into them. (Where do you find the time?) And even if I don't agree with a theory as a whole, you certainly do make good points at least in part -- things that make you go hmmmm.

    I'm glad that you are able to let any bashing of you guys "roll down your back". Please continue to do what you do. I don't understand why some feel the need to bash others just because of a difference of opinion, etc. -- just agree to disagree.

    Anyway, I want to let you guys know that you and the site are much appreciated. I say keep the theories, discoveries, conversation, and even the disputes coming!
  • KukiKuki Posts: 346
    We are not here to find him.
    We are here to speak up for someone that can't speak up for himself now.
    We are here to report all the shit that the mainstream media has ignored or mis reported.
    We are here to support someone that needs support.
    We are here to give members a platform to discuss this matter.
    We are here for him and we will defend him to the bone, whether you want to believe it or not.


    Mike needs you, even if our 'crazy theories' turn out to be true. He needs to know he has your full support, that you understand why he is doing this. It's not important WHEN he returns, it's important that IF he returns, he can do so in safety, knowing we got his back.


    Bravo - these are the exact reasons that led me on the path to find this forum. It's high time we all speak out on his behalf and defend him. Thank you.

    and as Randy put it "My brother doesn’t have a voice anymore…. We must fight & speak for him."

    Amen to that!
  • moyrummoyrum Posts: 78
    Hey this is the best forum that i have come across, its the only forum i make sure to log in everyday. No matter what Souza and Mo keep up the great work your doing and remember we all are one here, no one is alone and we all as one will be always be there for Michael no matter what may come our way, lots of love x x x <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
  • mjfansince4mjfansince4 Posts: 1,030
    3 pages (and counting) of support. you've got mine.

    this forum gives a place to speak out, to find truth and to literally connect with other people all over the world for one reason: michael jackson. in doing so, we're doing what he lived his entire life doing, spreading love.

    yes, there are people here who write their opinions that he's dead and we should get over ourselves. (to those, why are you here anyways?) but...if you look through all the threads and posts, people here are supporting each other, encouraging each other and helping each other.

    mo and souza: i joined maybe 2 weeks ago. this site is fantastic. you guys have our love. forgot those (i know its hard) who insult you. they're just jealous the information here is better than theirs.
  • standing ovations from here to you, mo and souza and everybody contributing their wisdom and wit in here.

    i was never a partícular fan and i almost feel 'bad' for posting so much. i have looked for months for a place like this one, because i kept having that gut feeling that something is very wrong here. before june 25, 2009, i even fell for some of the tabloid trash written about michael jackson. and that only because i didn't do any further research on where it came from, what his position really was in terms of how deeply he really felt about his concerns, etc.

    everything that happened since last june taught me (again) to look behind everything the media are reporting. not that i'm not a conscious person, but to the general public, michael jackson was just 'the most eccentric pop star', his messages were cleverly hidden behind 'happy go lucky' pop music. of course i knew all of his music, but since i never bought any recordings (until now... <!-- s:oops: -->:oops:<!-- s:oops: --> ...shame on me), i didn't get to the songs that were not considered 'hits' or were not even promoted as such. in his later work, his messages became all the more deeper, clearer meaning more openly displayed by a harder beat or deeper voice. but you have to get into 'the man' and not the persona.

    people who do not understand that and thus will not understand why this is very probably the greatest hoax in the history of mankind, have definitley not understood what michael is about and why he must have felt that there was just no other way to get the message across. this was not a death, but a major wake-up-call!!!

    this is not a looney-bin! this is a place where people think, take stuff apart, do research or just have some plain good ol' fun and from where we spread the l.o.v.e.! this is the ultimate l.o.v.e.-playground! and don't people become the biggest idiots when they're in love? and doesn't it feel great?

    yes, it does! <!-- s:mrgreen: -->:mrgreen:<!-- s:mrgreen: --> and i want more of it every day! <!-- s:mrgreen: -->:mrgreen:<!-- s:mrgreen: --> <!-- s:mrgreen: -->:mrgreen:<!-- s:mrgreen: --> <!-- s:mrgreen: -->:mrgreen:<!-- s:mrgreen: -->

    thank you again, mo and souza for keeping an eye on us looneys runnin' around here and keeping the order!
    i highly respect and admire what you do here. (*bows*)

    thank you for your honesty

    i respect that

    x
  • Hi Mo & Souza, I'm not sure what is really going on because I don't get a chance to check the board very often and have been less involved since you switched board formats. What I wanted to say is this, I so much appreciate that you have this place to discuss all things MJ "death" related.

    I did not consider myself a fan either (since the Thriller days), I had my own life to live and didn't much pay attention to MJ over the years. However, since the "death" I had noticed inconsistencies right away. One would think that these are blatently obivious if a person that did not "follow" MJ could notice them. It still stymies me that the media is not picking up on these things or if they are, not reporting them for whatever reasons.

    While I do not always agree with the various theories you put out there, I always marvel at the amount of work/thought that the two of you put into them. (Where do you find the time?) And even if I don't agree with a theory as a whole, you certainly do make good points at least in part -- things that make you go hmmmm.

    I'm glad that you are able to let any bashing of you guys "roll down your back". Please continue to do what you do. I don't understand why some feel the need to bash others just because of a difference of opinion, etc. -- just agree to disagree.

    Anyway, I want to let you guys know that you and the site are much appreciated. I say keep the theories, discoveries, conversation, and even the disputes coming!

    i totally understand



  • For the other Souza & M0 haters] Has anyone ever thought about the fact that there is a possibility that the theories in our blogs could be true? Have you ever thought about it that when you call our theories freaking insane, you could be calling Mike freaking insane? I guess not.[/b]



    This is something i always thought that's why i have my respect for you and for this site,you guys always had the believable theories ! don't ever give up on us the believers!
    I fully agree on this entire post of yours. and all i can say is "bravo". <!-- s:!: -->:!:<!-- s:!: -->
  • i watch Maura videos but i also read and watch your theories and video.although i don't agree 100% with both of you. i think you guys are doing are great job. although you guys have different view about all this. but that's what makes a person unique...... everyone thinks different and their own opinion and beliefs. we must respect and tolerate different opinions. we don't know exactly what happened with mj. that's why many people have many theories. because we all want to know. we can clues and and important facts about him fakiong his death but that's it more than that is just speculations and theories. which are great by the way but it is what we think that happen. but the thing is we all think that mj may still alive period. how he fake his death or why he did it or when is he going to return? truth is we don't know. but that's why we investigate and in our own way. we all must unite and stop fighting. buys remember L.O.V.E

    Same here.. I read MJHDI almost daily and also read and watch theories in other forums.. So I read the information and get my own conclusions.. We have differents points of view and opinions and I respect all of them.. I truly appreciate the work that you guys put in this hoax investigation.. YOU ARE THE BEST!! <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) --> We are all here for the same reason, MJ and we shouldnt forget that its all for L.O.V.E!!

    ps.. sorry for my english..
  • liegiliegi Posts: 640
    Dear Mo and Souza,
    Thanks very much for organizing this forum and for all the work you do. I agree with you 100%--whether or not we are fans or people who sympathize with Michael, we must seek the truth. I read other forums and blogs, but yours is the best. My best wishes to you and us. I am confident we will find the truth--the truth will prevail.
  • I totally agree with your thread. Almost every person has a hater- I know I do- and that's the way it is. But some people are really mean, and you just need to ignore them. That's what I do.
  • The fact that MoandSouza are not big MJ fans makes me trust them even more because they have a different perspective from diehard fans.

    Mo&Souza, I truly respect you and appreciate the time and effort you put into this investigation to find the truth for us 'love-crazed' Michaelmaniacs.
    I'll be with you till BAMsday and beyond! <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->

    MICHAEL I love you SO much and will be here for you always <3
    ...but hurry up and come back because it's not easy living without you. <!-- s:( -->:(<!-- s:( -->
  • Great post Mo and Souza. What puzzles me are the "fans" who hate us because we believe he is "alive", as if we are committing a cardinal sin in our believing. Why is investigating obvious screw ups and fabricated information and reports a threat to them? Why is it so important to them that just because he was reported to be dead, though nothing points in that direction, its got to be the truth? Why aren't they fuming? If they are too devastated to handle this and we, even in our anguish or hurting or what ever, has still taken it upon ourselves to get to put our emotions aside and work to get to the bottom of things, they should be commending us. It doesn't make any sense to me. They get so angry and belligerent at the mere mention of the idea that maybe, just maybe our Michael could have been in danger and/or had to get away. WHAT <!-- s:evil: -->:evil:<!-- s:evil: --> <!-- s:?: -->:?:<!-- s:?: --> <!-- s:?: -->:?:<!-- s:?: --> <!-- s:?: -->:?:<!-- s:?: --> Believe me, those folk, the "real fans" as they love to advertise, go totally freakin ballistic at the mention of hoax or conspiracy.
  • Isn't that the whole point? To stay together on this, that's how we are help Mike. Despite all the BS people are putting out there about him. We can't lose faith in this great adventure he's taking us all on.
    I know that if we stick together and not fall into the lies and manipulations, and prove to Mike that we do have is back, he will come back. He has to come back anyway to finish what he started, with our help. That's what I he needs, for us to help him with this project. I can't wait, and I am not nercous at all about this journey he's taking us on. You guys shouldn't be too. And for the haters, we can try to change their minds but they have come into their own truth and what the truth is. So lets not waste our time on them becuase something bigger is happening, I don't know what it is, I can feel it though, something amazing is going to happen and its got me excited. So I think that's what we should do, focus on what Mike wants us to do, instead of focusing on what is negative, they will be dealt with in time, and by focuing on the good
    we can expose them at the same time. A think that's what Mike wants us to do. He's gone now, not saying he's dead, but he is gone, so what are going to do about that? We can't give up. The haters just have to deal with it move on. I don't know about the rest of, but I am not going ANYWHERE. Until Michael returns.
    I know that there isn't one hater that can stop me or make me turn the other check. So Michael, you have my not only my total support, but and army of love waiting for your reutrn. L.O.V.E HATERS
  • DAMN, I'M GETTING FIRED UP <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: -->

    LETS DO THIS!

    L.O.V.E. that's the real deal.
  • mjgirl86mjgirl86 Posts: 316
    Wow, what's going on? I live under a rock.... I don't see why there is hate.... remember the L.O.V.E. people... Mo and Souza are awesome, they never disrespected anyone, so why jump down their throats?... don't take kindness for weakness!

    It's kind of childish to be angry because they are not "fans". That's silly. There's no bashing, dishonoring, or rudeness, so what is the problem? Don't presume to know how they feel, or assume what you think they know.

    These debates, and arguments are pointless. What are we here for? Don't get off track, causing unnecessary obstacles, bumps in the road, pointing fingers, just because.

    I miss the way things were on the old board. Much more respect. As I told JACKSONOLOGIST, too many hot headed, finger pointing newbies floating around.. no offense.. and it kind of made me drift away, because it's petty, and I'm too mature for this.

    I take my hat off to the moderators, I would've lost my head way worse than this.
  • paula-cpaula-c Posts: 7,221
    hesouttamylife, Are there really people who hate us?, Should not go that far <!-- s:geek: -->:geek:<!-- s:geek: -->
  • Everybody just stop and pause for a moment. What are we doing here? This entire "battle" has gotten completely out of control.
    I have spent the better part of seven months, standing on the sidelines and watching this hoax unfold. I have seen bad things come and bad things go. I have seen people manipulate the truth and do things for attention. I have seen people with some real information, laughed at and mocked because it was just "too good to be true".

    Souza and Mo, I have been checking out what you've been doing since the old MJHD days.
    I personally don't have an issue with you. There are things that have been done that I don't like, but it hasn't made me dislike you.

    Maura is somebody that I have only recently become aquainted with, though I have been watching her videos from the very first one posted.

    I have had a few private conversations with her and was amazed by how much this entire thing means to her.
    We connected and she let me into her life a bit and I was pretty amazed at her dedication to all of this, considering what she already has going for herself.
    She made me well aware of alot of information that she has obtained regarding this hoax and I can completely understand why she hasn't just been so quick to blurt it out.

    The thing is, i've watched all of her videos and most of everything is presented as a theory. When something is presented as a fact, the evidence is typically given to us.
    But does it matter? People make these hoax videos and they are interesting and entertaining to say the very least, but why is all of this drama going into them?
    What has this girl done to deserve this witch burning? People are doing to her exactly what has been done to the very man that you all claim to love and care about.

    Now there are actually people in this thread stating "It's ok if you aren't a fan"? Are you kidding me? When is it ok to not be a fan, but say so many things about someone that could completely destroy what little bit of a repuation they have left?

    Alot of you people that are in here backing up Mo and Souza are the exact same people that had not so nice things to say about them recently.

    I am not choosing sides here because there should be ONE side. Believers. People that want to get to the bottom of what has happened.

    Michael..... Do you think he likes this? Do you think these constant attacks on one another will make him happy? Do you think that this was his purpose?

    I've spoken with Maura and she has decided that she is no longer going to make hoax videos. That really hurts my heart. Even if you didn't agree with all of her theories, she was getting the message out there. Maybe not the message that you all wanted to hear.

    I've never posted on here before and I won't post anymore, because I don't feel there is a need to respond to the attacks that i am going to get. I just want to say, shame on all of you. Shame on her for the video she made toward people here and shame on Souza and Mo for all of the things they have done to people. Shame on people on this thread that are playing both sides of the fence.

    To back somebody into a corner that holds an answer that you have all been waiting for, was so wrong. You can say all of your nasty things now, but I give it just a few weeks before you are full of regret. Because the truth is coming and all of your nasty behavior and hate, has completely changed the course of that truth and this investigation.

    I'm sorry for all of you in advance.
  • badkolobadkolo Posts: 128
    thanks for coming.
  • SouzaSouza Posts: 9,400
    Everybody just stop and pause for a moment. What are we doing here? This entire "battle" has gotten completely out of control.
    I have spent the better part of seven months, standing on the sidelines and watching this hoax unfold. I have seen bad things come and bad things go. I have seen people manipulate the truth and do things for attention. I have seen people with some real information, laughed at and mocked because it was just "too good to be true".

    Souza and Mo, I have been checking out what you've been doing since the old MJHD days.
    I personally don't have an issue with you. There are things that have been done that I don't like, but it hasn't made me dislike you.

    Maura is somebody that I have only recently become aquainted with, though I have been watching her videos from the very first one posted.

    I have had a few private conversations with her and was amazed by how much this entire thing means to her.
    We connected and she let me into her life a bit and I was pretty amazed at her dedication to all of this, considering what she already has going for herself.
    She made me well aware of alot of information that she has obtained regarding this hoax and I can completely understand why she hasn't just been so quick to blurt it out.

    The thing is, i've watched all of her videos and most of everything is presented as a theory. When something is presented as a fact, the evidence is typically given to us.
    But does it matter? People make these hoax videos and they are interesting and entertaining to say the very least, but why is all of this drama going into them?
    What has this girl done to deserve this witch burning? People are doing to her exactly what has been done to the very man that you all claim to love and care about.

    Now there are actually people in this thread stating "It's ok if you aren't a fan"? Are you kidding me? When is it ok to not be a fan, but say so many things about someone that could completely destroy what little bit of a repuation they have left?

    Alot of you people that are in here backing up Mo and Souza are the exact same people that had not so nice things to say about them recently.

    I am not choosing sides here because there should be ONE side. Believers. People that want to get to the bottom of what has happened.

    Michael..... Do you think he likes this? Do you think these constant attacks on one another will make him happy? Do you think that this was his purpose?

    I've spoken with Maura and she has decided that she is no longer going to make hoax videos. That really hurts my heart. Even if you didn't agree with all of her theories, she was getting the message out there. Maybe not the message that you all wanted to hear.

    I've never posted on here before and I won't post anymore, because I don't feel there is a need to respond to the attacks that i am going to get. I just want to say, shame on all of you. Shame on her for the video she made toward people here and shame on Souza and Mo for all of the things they have done to people. Shame on people on this thread that are playing both sides of the fence.

    To back somebody into a corner that holds an answer that you have all been waiting for, was so wrong. You can say all of your nasty things now, but I give it just a few weeks before you are full of regret. Because the truth is coming and all of your nasty behavior and hate, has completely changed the course of that truth and this investigation.

    I'm sorry for all of you in advance.

    Well Jonathan/MediaHypeAgain, we have been watching you as well and we don't like what we see lately.
    If you dislike hate, talk to your Maura again. We never bashed Mike, we have never been disrespectful. Think again.

    Like I told you: Go back to your playground and leave the grown ups alone. And Dorian huh? Nice one...

    "For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."

  • For real Souza? You are going to just disrespect me like that? When I didn't say anything at all to disrespect you?

    My post was toward everybody , because everybody has been wrong toward one another.
    If you want to turn this into a "bash him" thread. That's cool with me.
    I didn't come here for that. I'm speaking the truth. If people say they have good intentions, then that's what they should have. This bashing needs to stop. Any adult would see that. Clearly the 13 year olds on this forum don't, but the real adults should see that. But you know what? I'm just a "guest" in your home. I'm not going come in here to disrespect you. I'll just log out.

    What is going on in the dark is always revealed in the light. A wise person once said that... Take care Souza
  • I don't know squat about the Mo and Souza and Maura controversy. That was before my time. I do however know about people who shout Michael, I love you more to the top of their lungs and talk about healing the world in every other breath who will 100% of the time, call you every ugly name imaginable and accuse you of being a "fake' fan if you go against their ideal of Michael having left this world and is now floating with guilded wings in heaven. And that is NOT an exaggeration. You would be amazed at how quick and how fierce the attacks become. All that it's all for love goes out the door and through the chimney. I kid you not. It is something to behold. You would think you had cursed their mother or smacked one of their children. I can respect their wanting to believe in what they believe. What I can't understand is how quickly those those halos can turn to horns if you suggest an alternate reality. They live <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: --> and it is like a cult.
  • SouzaSouza Posts: 9,400
    For real Souza? You are going to just disrespect me like that? When I didn't say anything at all to disrespect you?

    Who called US garbage? You did! So who are you to judge?
    My post was toward everybody , because everybody has been wrong toward one another.
    If you want to turn this into a "bash him" thread. That's cool with me.
    I didn't come here for that. I'm speaking the truth. If people say they have good intentions, then that's what they should have. This bashing needs to stop. Any adult would see that. Clearly the 13 year olds on this forum don't, but the real adults should see that. But you know what? I'm just a "guest" in your home. I'm not going come in here to disrespect you. I'll just log out.

    What is going on in the dark is always revealed in the light. A wise person once said that... Take care Souza
    YES this bashing needs to stop, so what are you doing here?

    Now there are actually people in this thread stating "It's ok if you aren't a fan"? Are you kidding me? When is it ok to not be a fan, but say so many things about someone that could completely destroy what little bit of a repuation they have left?

    Alot of you people that are in here backing up Mo and Souza are the exact same people that had not so nice things to say about them recently.

    Oh really? HOW did we disrespect him MHA? Tell me, I am curious. You know exactly what we are doing and that is why you are scared enough to crawl from under your rock.

    Shame on Souza and Mo for all of the things they have done to people.

    Like what? Examples please, or go back and hide under your rock.

    "For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."

  • PinkTopazPinkTopaz Posts: 1,013
    I don't know squat about the Mo and Souza and Maura controversy. That was before my time. I do however know about people who shout Michael, I love you more to the top of their lungs and talk about healing the world in every other breath who will 100% of the time, call you every ugly name imaginable and accuse you of being a "fake' fan if you go against their ideal of Michael having left this world and is now floating with guilded wings in heaven. And that is NOT an exaggeration. You would be amazed at how quick and how fierce the attacks become. All that it's all for love goes out the door and through the chimney. I kid you not. It is something to behold. You would think you had cursed their mother or smacked one of their children. I can respect their wanting to believe in what they believe. What I can't understand is how quickly those those halos can turn to horns if you suggest an alternate reality. They live <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: --> and it is like a cult.
    I'm on your page.. I come from Maximum Jackson, and it is just like that there.. The people there, for all they talk about Michael and his ideals, are constantly laughing at other people, particularly these certain two very respected mods there.. I never really liked their attitudes before the 25th, but I thought they were open-minded.. Anyone who tries to bring up anything questioning Michael's "death" as anything other than what it is presented as (you know, he was secretly an addict all these years and the Propofol nonsense) is INSTANTLY mocked, scolded and has their thread closed down.. Thank God I saw that long before I learned about the hoax..
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