hm..but mainly MJ raised his own kids.. like a lot of videos prove.
But of course she did a great job, she had to, cause MJ hired her and I don't think that he would hand out his kids to a person he couldn't trust. But there was something about her, I think it was before Michaels disappearance, where Michael or ( was it the family) wanted to fire her? Or was she fired and then hired again?
@DOITNOWMJ... im not sure, but i think Grace might be the one to take the fall for this latest scandal. Seems those within the family want someone out. It may be Grace.
Please dont make this thread into an argument.. pretty please. <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->
Sorry guys. I still think this is more likely about Alejandra. The title of the article says it all.
I don't think it's fair to make such unsubstantiated judgments and assumptions about Grace.
Stun Gun Mess Connected to Jackson Divorce
Jermaine Jackson's messy divorce set up a series of events that led to a knock at Katherine Jackson's door by the L.A. County Department of Children and Family Services ... TMZ has learned.
Jermaine filed for divorce from Alejandra Jackson in 2004. They fought hard over child support. According to legal documents obtained by TMZ, Jermaine pressured Alejandra to live with the couple's two children -- Jaafar and Jermajesty -- in the Jackson family home in Encino. Alejandra claimed in the docs Jermaine wanted her to live in his mom's home so he didn't have to pay her support.
In legal docs filed last year, Alejandra complained most of the support money she received was from Katherine, frequently in the form of gift cards from Ralphs supermarket -- the very same place Jaafar bought a credit card so he could purchase the stun gun online.
Who knows, it could be anybody in the house. May not be Grace. Wasn't Randy married to Jermaine's ex-wife at one point? Perhaps it's her? She is still living at the house with the kids and Katherine. I think she's still there?
Im starting to think that now too..... But she is the mother to those children, so if she goes then what will happen to those two boys of hers?
IDK. I'm sure there's more to the story, and divorce/custody issues can be quite complex. I do think it's interesting, though, that this happened while JJ was out of the country. Sounds a bit suspicious to me. I hope they can resolves any issues they may have. I have such a heart for children of divorce. It's never easy.
These are all messages in an order of their coming. I think you should look more at them.
All the kids r safe. My nephew is a GREAT kid. Sad that the media has to pick on a 13 year old for their own gain
As I said, I must unite my family, evident by this most recent issue @ my family home
this one special : UNITE MY FAMILY EVIDENT BY THIS MOST RECENT ISSUE. Before this I remember he also said he wanted to UNITE THE FAMILY.
this is the message about Fam. unification :
Through the power of our global unity - justice will reveal itself. My efforts now are to unite my family. Please support & pray for us.
I don't see this message that is directly related to the issue kids and "her" from the inside, because Randy speaks here about JUSTICE for MJ, yes ? so ?? is any connection with "recent issue"? or it is ?? <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
Was handled correctly, no harm done. Allegations 90% false, fabricated by evildoers covertly trying 2 separate my family from the inside out
here are some evildoers -S plural so it seems it's not just "her" and it's from inside not outside
Quick note, TMZ caught me off guard as I was leaving a meeting. I never called them & I'm not their inside source. That will b revealed soon
A private issue, handled internally. The 1 in the house that calld TMZ&DCFS is on a mission 2 exploit us & separate the kids 4 her evil gain
I understand the word exploit in it's true meaning also I found it means :abuse... Randy said US, how can somebody in that house EXPLOIT THEM ?? a "she" or evildoerS. He want me to believe that they lose controll in their own house ?? that I don't believe.
also wrote that media .....for ..."own gain" and "her" for "evil gain", in fact he says it's all about a gain isn't it ??
Oops – Did I say ‘her’… ? Oops, Randy WANTED to say her <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
And my last question if you can answer me if you look on his twitter pag. there are messages announcement type, I didn't see him answer to 1 fan and this is from the begining. I beleive after these messages of his, he recevived a lot of replies, so nothing, this is very strange. I know that Tito, JJ, Marlon, I think Janet give replies.
I can assume one thing his messages are not especially for fans, but directed to some..... maybe media?
I don't think Randy is the inside guy either,TMZ is just singling him out because he's the one who never gives interviews or participate in reality shows.
@Venus.. maybe. I am wavering on the hoax at the moment and this situation with the family is making it worse as i cannot see MJ sitting back and allowing this to happen.
Would he allow his own children be subjected to this?
Would he allow his 13 year old nephew be treated by the press like this?
Hmm.. i dont know. I know that at the beginning a lot of people were against Grace being re-instated as Michael had fired her.. and fired her for good reason apparently.
MAYBE SOMEONE REALLY HAVE DOUBTS ABOUT MJ "DEAD" AND IS DOING ALL THIS THINGS, WEIRD THINGS TO REVEALING MJ, MAYBE TO TAKE HIM OUT OF THE CAVE.... YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN?
I hope the same with all my heart <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) --> .
In my mind is this now:
Randy : "our global unity - justice will reveal itself ... to unite my family", this is the most important message from Randy and I feel something is going to happen. And all these things with the kids and also with Debbie are somehow related, I think, or just with kids.
I hope the same with all my heart <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) --> .
In my mind is this now:
Randy : "our global unity - justice will reveal itself ... to unite my family", this is the most important message from Randy and I feel something is going to happen. And all these things with the kids and also with Debbie are somehow related, I think, or just with kids.
Yes.. why would Justice have to be revealed before their family is united?? Are they not united now?? Hmmm....
I hope the same with all my heart <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) --> .
In my mind is this now:
Randy : "our global unity - justice will reveal itself ... to unite my family", this is the most important message from Randy and I feel something is going to happen. And all these things with the kids and also with Debbie are somehow related, I think, or just with kids.
Yes.. why would Justice have to be revealed before their family is united?? Are they not united now?? Hmmm....
I think that the reference to family relates to us beLIEvers and Michaels fans who believe he is dead. There have been some big clues this week and maybe this is to get non-believing fans to start looking in it. Michael needs his family of beLIEvers to grow in numbers and in strength and become united. Justice is revealed in more people discovering the truth.
heismypeterpan tells that Michael is gone in her tweets. She writes how his message is going to live on and how she misses him <!-- s:| -->:|<!-- s:| -->
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But of course she did a great job, she had to, cause MJ hired her and I don't think that he would hand out his kids to a person he couldn't trust. But there was something about her, I think it was before Michaels disappearance, where Michael or ( was it the family) wanted to fire her? Or was she fired and then hired again?
Please dont make this thread into an argument.. pretty please. <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->
LOL <!-- s
Who is Grace?
Grace is the nanny of the kids
I don't think it's fair to make such unsubstantiated judgments and assumptions about Grace.
Stun Gun Mess Connected to Jackson Divorce
Jermaine Jackson's messy divorce set up a series of events that led to a knock at Katherine Jackson's door by the L.A. County Department of Children and Family Services ... TMZ has learned.
Jermaine filed for divorce from Alejandra Jackson in 2004. They fought hard over child support. According to legal documents obtained by TMZ, Jermaine pressured Alejandra to live with the couple's two children -- Jaafar and Jermajesty -- in the Jackson family home in Encino. Alejandra claimed in the docs Jermaine wanted her to live in his mom's home so he didn't have to pay her support.
In legal docs filed last year, Alejandra complained most of the support money she received was from Katherine, frequently in the form of gift cards from Ralphs supermarket -- the very same place Jaafar bought a credit card so he could purchase the stun gun online.
Read more: <!-- m -->http://www.tmz.com/2010/03/04/michael-j ... z0hFiZ6Jbe<!-- m -->
Im starting to think that now too..... But she is the mother to those children, so if she goes then what will happen to those two boys of hers?
IDK. I'm sure there's more to the story, and divorce/custody issues can be quite complex. I do think it's interesting, though, that this happened while JJ was out of the country. Sounds a bit suspicious to me. I hope they can resolves any issues they may have. I have such a heart for children of divorce. It's never easy.
All the kids r safe. My nephew is a GREAT kid. Sad that the media has to pick on a 13 year old for their own gain
As I said, I must unite my family, evident by this most recent issue @ my family home
this one special : UNITE MY FAMILY EVIDENT BY THIS MOST RECENT ISSUE. Before this I remember he also said he wanted to UNITE THE FAMILY.
this is the message about Fam. unification :
Through the power of our global unity - justice will reveal itself. My efforts now are to unite my family. Please support & pray for us.
I don't see this message that is directly related to the issue kids and "her" from the inside, because Randy speaks here about JUSTICE for MJ, yes ? so ?? is any connection with "recent issue"? or it is ?? <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
Was handled correctly, no harm done. Allegations 90% false, fabricated by evildoers covertly trying 2 separate my family from the inside out
here are some evildoers -S plural so it seems it's not just "her" and it's from inside not outside
Quick note, TMZ caught me off guard as I was leaving a meeting. I never called them & I'm not their inside source. That will b revealed soon
A private issue, handled internally. The 1 in the house that calld TMZ&DCFS is on a mission 2 exploit us & separate the kids 4 her evil gain
I understand the word exploit in it's true meaning also I found it means :abuse... Randy said US, how can somebody in that house EXPLOIT THEM ?? a "she" or evildoerS. He want me to believe that they lose controll in their own house ?? that I don't believe.
also wrote that media .....for ..."own gain" and "her" for "evil gain", in fact he says it's all about a gain isn't it ??
Oops – Did I say ‘her’… ? Oops, Randy WANTED to say her <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
And my last question if you can answer me if you look on his twitter pag. there are messages announcement type, I didn't see him answer to 1 fan and this is from the begining. I beleive after these messages of his, he recevived a lot of replies, so nothing, this is very strange. I know that Tito, JJ, Marlon, I think Janet give replies.
I can assume one thing his messages are not especially for fans, but directed to some..... maybe media?
Grace was at Culver City Studios in CA??? <!-- s:?: -->:?:<!-- s:?: --> <!-- s:?: -->:?:<!-- s:?: --> <!-- s:?: -->:?:<!-- s:?: --> What??? <!-- s:o -->:o<!-- s:o --> <!-- s:o -->:o<!-- s:o --> <!-- s:o -->:o<!-- s:o --> <!-- s:shock: -->:shock:<!-- s:shock: --> <!-- s:shock: -->:shock:<!-- s:shock: --> <!-- s:shock: -->:shock:<!-- s:shock: --> Why would Grace be there? Boy, that is very strange. Hmmm! <!-- s:idea: -->:idea:<!-- s:idea: -->
MAYBE SOMEONE REALLY HAVE DOUBTS ABOUT MJ "DEAD" AND IS DOING ALL THIS THINGS, WEIRD THINGS TO REVEALING MJ, MAYBE TO TAKE HIM OUT OF THE CAVE.... YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN?
TRUE! COULD BE SOMETHING ELSE... I HOPE THAT THE KIDS AND MJ ARE OK! JUST THAT! <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
In my mind is this now:
Randy : "our global unity - justice will reveal itself ... to unite my family", this is the most important message from Randy and I feel something is going to happen. And all these things with the kids and also with Debbie are somehow related, I think, or just with kids.
Yes.. why would Justice have to be revealed before their family is united?? Are they not united now?? Hmmm....
I think that the reference to family relates to us beLIEvers and Michaels fans who believe he is dead. There have been some big clues this week and maybe this is to get non-believing fans to start looking in it. Michael needs his family of beLIEvers to grow in numbers and in strength and become united. Justice is revealed in more people discovering the truth.
What's DHS?