Okay, so to sum it up our way of taking a critical look at the media is like this;
1. Negative news about MJ and/or the family; The media are liars and we shouldn't believe them
2. Positive news about MJ and/or the family; This must be true!
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I don't get it.
Don't get me wrong, I hope the bodyguards are telling the truth and that MJ had a lot of fun in the backseat <!-- s --><!-- s --> . But to me, it is not only very unprofessional to sell information about your former boss, but it is also vile. MJ probably trusted these guys, made them sign confidentiality agreements and now they are on a talkshow, talking about his personal life. They are going to write a book as well, so they can get some more money and claim their 15 minutes of fame.
That is what I'm protesting about. He wanted to be left alone, he didn't want anyone digging up personal information, he didn't want media coverage about this personal life. I think we can all agree on that. These bodyguards are doing exactly that! But this time we love it because it is positive information? All these guys are doing is selling juicy stories about someone who can't defend himself!
Or in his own words;
It's slander
You say it's not a sword
But with your pen you torture men
You'd crucify the Lord
And you don't have to read it, read it
And you don't have to eat it, eat it
To buy it is to feed it, feed it
So why do we keep foolin' ourselves
Just because you read it in a magazine
Or see it on the TV screen
Don't make it factual
Though everybody wants to read all about it
(...)
It's slander
With the words you use
You're a parasite in black and white
Do anything for news
And you don't go and buy it, buy it
And they won't glorify it, 'fy it
To read it sanctifies it, 'fies it
Then why do we keep foolin' ourselves
Just because you read it in a magazine
Or see it on the TV screen
Don't make it factual
Everybody wants to read all about it
Just because you read it in a magazine
Or see it on the TV screen
Don't make it factual
See, but everybody wants to believe all about it
There is a link around here somewhere. Perhaps someone can locate it so that you can hear it firsthand. Until then, I'll paraphrase. Mike Beardon described the Dirty Diana scene and how elaborate it would have been in the show. The aerialist was to be on the bed with MJ. Beardon asked MJ where would Orianthi be and MJ replied "In the bed with me too, I can handle all of that". Michael Beardon was shocked because MJ was definitely letting it be known to him that he was not a man to be intimidated by being in bed with two woman at once. As noted in my previous post, MJ may have been more adventerous than some other people care to consider. People have to remember it's his life and his choices...
Now even if he were implying that then let's not forget what Michael Beardon revealed to George Lopez. Remember what he said MJ told him about the aerialist and Orianthi for the Dirty Diana rehearsal. It isn't too much of a stretch to see that MJ may have had a much more adventurous streak than some people care to consider. Hey ...it's not my cup of tea but that doesn't make me completely dismiss the fact that some people are into things like that. To paraphrase an old Sly & the Family Stone song..."Different Strokes for Different Folks".
I missed what Michael Beardon revealed to George Lopez. Can you fill us in?
There is a link around here somewhere. Perhaps someone can locate it so that you can hear it firsthand. Until then, I'll paraphrase. Mike Beardon described the Dirty Diana scene and how elaborate it would have been in the show. The aerialist was to be on the bed with MJ. Beardon asked MJ where would Orianthi be and MJ replied "In the bed with me too, I can handle all of that". Michael Beardon was shocked because MJ was definitely letting it be known to him that he was not a man to be intimidated by being in bed with two woman at once. As noted in my previous post, MJ may have been more adventerous than some other people care to consider. People have to remember it's his life and his choices...
Now even if he were implying that then let's not forget what Michael Beardon revealed to George Lopez. Remember what he said MJ told him about the aerialist and Orianthi for the Dirty Diana rehearsal. It isn't too much of a stretch to see that MJ may have had a much more adventurous streak than some people care to consider. Hey ...it's not my cup of tea but that doesn't make me completely dismiss the fact that some people are into things like that. To paraphrase an old Sly & the Family Stone song..."Different Strokes for Different Folks".
I missed what Michael Beardon revealed to George Lopez. Can you fill us in?
Now even if he were implying that then let's not forget what Michael Beardon revealed to George Lopez. Remember what he said MJ told him about the aerialist and Orianthi for the Dirty Diana rehearsal. It isn't too much of a stretch to see that MJ may have had a much more adventurous streak than some people care to consider. Hey ...it's not my cup of tea but that doesn't make me completely dismiss the fact that some people are into things like that. To paraphrase an old Sly & the Family Stone song..."Different Strokes for Different Folks".
There is a link around here somewhere. Perhaps someone can locate it so that you can hear it firsthand. Until then, I'll paraphrase. Mike Beardon described the Dirty Diana scene and how elaborate it would have been in the show. The aerialist was to be on the bed with MJ. Beardon asked MJ where would Orianthi be and MJ replied "In the bed with me too, I can handle all of that". Michael Beardon was shocked because MJ was definitely letting it be known to him that he was not a man to be intimidated by being in bed with two woman at once. As noted in my previous post, MJ may have been more adventerous than some other people care to consider. People have to remember it's his life and his choices...
Agreed, I think people need to start realizing that he was just like everyone else, that people might not know him as well as they might think they do.
To me he sounds like a guy like any other, he just happens to be the most famous one on eath.
"For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."
On another forum we discussed how the hoax may reveal a lot of things about MJ that fans NEVER knew and how that information will shock the crap out of so many starry-eyed fans. It makes sense. If I wasn’t there with him then I have no clue as to what the man did on those lonely nights at Neverland. MJ never picked up his phone and called random people to announce who he was dating, marrying, or …<drum roll please>…when he was going to pull a hoaxed death. He surely wouldn’t have called someone to announce who he was about to be intimate with and under what circumstances …unless… that someone was the invited guest.
Let’s get real here. The fans who think that they know MJ must take a step back and look at regular men for a moment. Think about the routine things that they do as they interact with women. Think about the conversations that many men have with regards to what they enjoy doing. Now also consider the naughtier things that regular guys confess to wishing that they could do. These are regular guys who may not have nearly the options or resources as MJ does. Now bring MJ back into the picture. Guess what? He could do a lot of things that some regular guys only dream about. MJ is probably a lot more regular in his thinking and behavior than many people, especially female fans, want to believe him to be. C’mon…back away from the Harlequin romance novels…please.
On another forum we discussed how the hoax may reveal a lot of things about MJ that fans NEVER knew and how that information will shock the crap out of so many starry-eyed fans. It makes sense. If I wasn’t there with him then I have no clue as to what the man did on those lonely nights at Neverland. MJ never picked up his phone and called random people to announce who he was dating, marrying, or …<drum roll please>…when he was going to pull a hoaxed death. He surely wouldn’t have called someone to announce who he was about to be intimate with and under what circumstances …unless… that someone was the invited guest.
Let’s get real here. The fans who think that they know MJ must take a step back and look at regular men for a moment. Think about the routine things that they do as they interact with women. Think about the conversations that many men have with regards to what they enjoy doing. Now also consider the naughtier things that regular guys confess to wishing that they could do. These are regular guys who may not have nearly the options or resources as MJ does. Now bring MJ back into the picture. Guess what? He could do a lot of things that some regular guys only dream about. MJ is probably a lot more regular in his thinking and behavior than many people, especially female fans,
want to believe him to be. C’mon…back away from the Harlequin romance novels…please.
SO DOES ANYONE HERE THINK MICHEAL IS BEHIND THIS.......IS IT ALL PLANNED.....AND IF SO WHY.....THE INTERVIEWER SAID THERE IS MORE TO COME...........OMG.........IF MICHEAL IS NOT ORCHESTRATING THIS...THEN WHAT IS THE POINT IN REVEALING PRIVATE STUFF......OTHER THAN FOR FINANCIAL GAIN......XXX
YEAH UR RIGHT MJ IS BEHIND ALL THIS. THIS INTERVIEW SEEMS TO BE COMPLETELY ORCHESTRATED BY MJ.
On another forum we discussed how the hoax may reveal a lot of things about MJ that fans NEVER knew and how that information will shock the crap out of so many starry-eyed fans. It makes sense. If I wasn’t there with him then I have no clue as to what the man did on those lonely nights at Neverland. MJ never picked up his phone and called random people to announce who he was dating, marrying, or …<drum roll please>…when he was going to pull a hoaxed death. He surely wouldn’t have called someone to announce who he was about to be intimate with and under what circumstances …unless… that someone was the invited guest.
Let’s get real here. The fans who think that they know MJ must take a step back and look at regular men for a moment. Think about the routine things that they do as they interact with women. Think about the conversations that many men have with regards to what they enjoy doing. Now also consider the naughtier things that regular guys confess to wishing that they could do. These are regular guys who may not have nearly the options or resources as MJ does. Now bring MJ back into the picture. Guess what? He could do a lot of things that some regular guys only dream about. MJ is probably a lot more regular in his thinking and behavior than many people, especially female fans, want to believe him to be. C’mon…back away from the Harlequin romance novels…please.
Thank You GirlSaturday! Let's help him getting off that high horse he was put on, let's make people take off their pink glasses, and let's make people see him as a normal guy. Let's make them meet The Man They Never Knew!
On another forum we discussed how the hoax may reveal a lot of things about MJ that fans NEVER knew and how that information will shock the crap out of so many starry-eyed fans. It makes sense. If I wasn’t there with him then I have no clue as to what the man did on those lonely nights at Neverland. MJ never picked up his phone and called random people to announce who he was dating, marrying, or …<drum roll please>…when he was going to pull a hoaxed death. He surely wouldn’t have called someone to announce who he was about to be intimate with and under what circumstances …unless… that someone was the invited guest.
Let’s get real here. The fans who think that they know MJ must take a step back and look at regular men for a moment. Think about the routine things that they do as they interact with women. Think about the conversations that many men have with regards to what they enjoy doing. Now also consider the naughtier things that regular guys confess to wishing that they could do. These are regular guys who may not have nearly the options or resources as MJ does. Now bring MJ back into the picture. Guess what? He could do a lot of things that some regular guys only dream about. MJ is probably a lot more regular in his thinking and behavior than many people, especially female fans, want to believe him to be. C’mon…back away from the Harlequin romance novels…please.
On another forum we discussed how the hoax may reveal a lot of things about MJ that fans NEVER knew and how that information will shock the crap out of so many starry-eyed fans. It makes sense. If I wasn’t there with him then I have no clue as to what the man did on those lonely nights at Neverland. MJ never picked up his phone and called random people to announce who he was dating, marrying, or …<drum roll please>…when he was going to pull a hoaxed death. He surely wouldn’t have called someone to announce who he was about to be intimate with and under what circumstances …unless… that someone was the invited guest.
Let’s get real here. The fans who think that they know MJ must take a step back and look at regular men for a moment. Think about the routine things that they do as they interact with women. Think about the conversations that many men have with regards to what they enjoy doing. Now also consider the naughtier things that regular guys confess to wishing that they could do. These are regular guys who may not have nearly the options or resources as MJ does. Now bring MJ back into the picture. Guess what? He could do a lot of things that some regular guys only dream about. MJ is probably a lot more regular in his thinking and behavior than many people, especially female fans, want to believe him to be. C’mon…back away from the Harlequin romance novels…please.
Thank You GirlSaturday! Let's help him getting off that high horse he was put on, let's make people take off their pink glasses, and let's make people see him as a normal guy. Let's make them meet The Man They Never Knew!
OOPS! I clicked the submit button before I posted anything! Three cheers Mo and GirlSaturday . . . thank you for telling the world that MJ is a NORMAL Man! He's not a GOD or a Saint. We love you, MJ!!! <!-- s8-) -->8-)<!-- s8-) -->
I actually think this is a big B.S. story, yeah so Michael loves woman... who can blame him? But I don't think he would have more then 1 woman at a time, you know what I mean? But hey, since I don't know him personally I will never know, to me this just sounds like a "image saving thing" like "You see, he slept with more then 1 woman at the same time, do you STILL think he's GAY? or Pedophile?" ... but hey, if he did I can't blame him for having "the time of his life with woman" afterall he's a man.. haha!
Really guyz. I also think that this is a "image saving thing"!!! I mean, even Karen Faye said he did not have a girlfriend, when she was around. I don´t know but if he had one or two we would have seen him with her. And yes we don´t know what happened behind closed doors, since he is a very private person. But I really think that they are doing this so that the media stops calling MJ a child molester. And you know what? They mentioned the girlfriend thing right after the molestian case. So for me this is only something for saving his image. If not, we would have heard about the lucky ladies in his life. And please don´t start with Rusha Bergman who was there in the last week before he "died" cause she was his designer, he liked her, but I don´t think she was having a relationship with him.
Michael is a normal human being so I'm not too surprised if what these guys claim is true.
Maybe he was having a mid-life crisis <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) --> Who knows? To me it just proves that he's human. Over the last 8 months he's been placed on a pretty high pedestal but, as much as I love him, he isn't a god and it's not right for him to deigned as one.
To be true it pleases me to hear that he had girlfriends! Common, don't be a hypocrite, he's a guy after all, he has his needs like any other man!!
And of course he likes women, he sings about love and women all the time! <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->
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ya'll know that sounds fun and spontaneous <!-- s
1. Negative news about MJ and/or the family; The media are liars and we shouldn't believe them
2. Positive news about MJ and/or the family; This must be true!
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I don't get it.
Don't get me wrong, I hope the bodyguards are telling the truth and that MJ had a lot of fun in the backseat <!-- s
That is what I'm protesting about. He wanted to be left alone, he didn't want anyone digging up personal information, he didn't want media coverage about this personal life. I think we can all agree on that. These bodyguards are doing exactly that! But this time we love it because it is positive information? All these guys are doing is selling juicy stories about someone who can't defend himself!
Or in his own words;
It's slander
You say it's not a sword
But with your pen you torture men
You'd crucify the Lord
And you don't have to read it, read it
And you don't have to eat it, eat it
To buy it is to feed it, feed it
So why do we keep foolin' ourselves
Just because you read it in a magazine
Or see it on the TV screen
Don't make it factual
Though everybody wants to read all about it
(...)
It's slander
With the words you use
You're a parasite in black and white
Do anything for news
And you don't go and buy it, buy it
And they won't glorify it, 'fy it
To read it sanctifies it, 'fies it
Then why do we keep foolin' ourselves
Just because you read it in a magazine
Or see it on the TV screen
Don't make it factual
Everybody wants to read all about it
Just because you read it in a magazine
Or see it on the TV screen
Don't make it factual
See, but everybody wants to believe all about it
I believe this is the vid;
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Agreed, I think people need to start realizing that he was just like everyone else, that people might not know him as well as they might think they do.
To me he sounds like a guy like any other, he just happens to be the most famous one on eath.
"For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."Let’s get real here. The fans who think that they know MJ must take a step back and look at regular men for a moment. Think about the routine things that they do as they interact with women. Think about the conversations that many men have with regards to what they enjoy doing. Now also consider the naughtier things that regular guys confess to wishing that they could do. These are regular guys who may not have nearly the options or resources as MJ does. Now bring MJ back into the picture. Guess what? He could do a lot of things that some regular guys only dream about. MJ is probably a lot more regular in his thinking and behavior than many people, especially female fans, want to believe him to be. C’mon…back away from the Harlequin romance novels…please.
VERY VERY WELL SAID..BRAVO
Thank You GirlSaturday! Let's help him getting off that high horse he was put on, let's make people take off their pink glasses, and let's make people see him as a normal guy. Let's make them meet The Man They Never Knew!
AMEN! Very well said.
Really guyz. I also think that this is a "image saving thing"!!! I mean, even Karen Faye said he did not have a girlfriend, when she was around. I don´t know but if he had one or two we would have seen him with her. And yes we don´t know what happened behind closed doors, since he is a very private person. But I really think that they are doing this so that the media stops calling MJ a child molester. And you know what? They mentioned the girlfriend thing right after the molestian case. So for me this is only something for saving his image. If not, we would have heard about the lucky ladies in his life. And please don´t start with Rusha Bergman who was there in the last week before he "died" cause she was his designer, he liked her, but I don´t think she was having a relationship with him.
Maybe he was having a mid-life crisis <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) --> Who knows? To me it just proves that he's human. Over the last 8 months he's been placed on a pretty high pedestal but, as much as I love him, he isn't a god and it's not right for him to deigned as one.
And of course he likes women, he sings about love and women all the time! <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->