Michael Jackson : Jehovah's Witness?

LunaCieloLunaCielo Posts: 393
edited January 1970 in General Discussion
Michael Jackson : Jehovah's Witness?
I do not know if he is that or if he was or not.I do not know if his mother is, but if so it’s, that should deepen the Jehovah's Witnesses as an authoritarian organization that controls the followers with the Watchtower (remember the "control" eye of the Masonic pyramid!), produces as social and psychological effects on the lives of people who participate.
This organization persecute those who leave .
Of because no criticism is allowed and even doubt, dialogue and openness, is persecuted.
And :'what happened to Michael?
Probably Micheal suffered in the mind control .
Jehovah's Witnesses also engaged in mental programming, you can deepen on the network and through documentations.
Disturbing and chilling.
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  • MJ was a babtised JW - and eventually adandoned them.

    Any proof of what you stated JW are involved with?
  • Michael Jackson : Jehovah's Witness?
    I do not know if he is that or if he was or not.I do not know if his mother is, but if so it’s, that should deepen the Jehovah's Witnesses as an authoritarian organization that controls the followers with the Watchtower (remember the "control" eye of the Masonic pyramid!), produces as social and psychological effects on the lives of people who participate.
    This organization persecute those who leave .
    Of because no criticism is allowed and even doubt, dialogue and openness, is persecuted.
    And :'what happened to Michael?
    Probably Micheal suffered in the mind control .
    Jehovah's Witnesses also engaged in mental programming, you can deepen on the network and through documentations.
    Disturbing and chilling.
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  • Michael Jackson : Jehovah's Witness?
    I do not know if he is that or if he was or not.I do not know if his mother is, but if so it’s, that should deepen the Jehovah's Witnesses as an authoritarian organization that controls the followers with the Watchtower (remember the "control" eye of the Masonic pyramid!), produces as social and psychological effects on the lives of people who participate.
    This organization persecute those who leave .
    Of because no criticism is allowed and even doubt, dialogue and openness, is persecuted.
    And :'what happened to Michael?
    Probably Micheal suffered in the mind control .
    Jehovah's Witnesses also engaged in mental programming, you can deepen on the network and through documentations.
    Disturbing and chilling.
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    Please provide the proof that supports your statements.

    Michael's Mother is a devout JW. His children have been attending JW services


    mjkids.jpg
  • Michael Jackson : Jehovah's Witness?
    I do not know if he is that or if he was or not.I do not know if his mother is, but if so it’s, that should deepen the Jehovah's Witnesses as an authoritarian organization that controls the followers with the Watchtower (remember the "control" eye of the Masonic pyramid!), produces as social and psychological effects on the lives of people who participate.
    This organization persecute those who leave .
    Of because no criticism is allowed and even doubt, dialogue and openness, is persecuted.
    And :'what happened to Michael?
    Probably Micheal suffered in the mind control .
    Jehovah's Witnesses also engaged in mental programming, you can deepen on the network and through documentations.
    Disturbing and chilling.
    <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: -->

    Seems to me like you don't know what you're writing about.
    Yes, he was JW. So is Katherine. The Watchtower magazine ain't mindcontrol.
    The elderly in the JW, thought that Thrillervideo was being to occult, and talked
    to him about it, and eventually he left the religion. That's what happened.
    JW are not about mind control, it's as mindcontrolling as any other religion.
  • TracyKTracyK Posts: 163
    My take on it was this.. He wanted to do this video and knew that it was all in fun and was not spreading any kind of message of evil or hate. I think that the JW abandoned MJ and not the other way around. He needed to have his creative freedom and felt he was being oppressed by the church. I believe with all my heart that he stayed true to his JW teachings. It is a religion that I, myself do not practice or endorse. Not that it is not good.. It is just not good for me. My God does not make promises to just certain people. What I mean by that is it is my understanding that they believe that only they go to Heaven. I disagree with that. I believe all who seek salvation go to Heaven. I wont make this about me but I do think that he was a Christian man who did embrace what he was brought up to believe in his church. Although being Christian, I believe that he embraced all cultures and religions. Maybe not to make it his own, but with love and respect for those who had a great spiritual belief system in place. He just loved people and wanted acceptance from everyone. That is good, great and ok! I think he did the right thing. I too am that way. I love you all no matter where you come from. I respect what you believe and find all of it beautiful. However, I have a belief that will not waver and I feel that MJ was the same way.
  • LunaCieloLunaCielo Posts: 393

    Si prega di fornire la Prova del Che Sostiene le Sue affermazioni.


    Si prega di leggere ... <!-- m -->http://www.infotdgeova.it/<!-- m --> or my post in Italian Forum
  • LunaCieloLunaCielo Posts: 393
    My take on it was this.. He wanted to do this video and knew that it was all in fun and was not spreading any kind of message of evil or hate. I think that the JW abandoned MJ and not the other way around. He needed to have his creative freedom and felt he was being oppressed by the church. I believe with all my heart that he stayed true to his JW teachings. It is a religion that I, myself do not practice or endorse. Not that it is not good.. It is just not good for me. My God does not make promises to just certain people. What I mean by that is it is my understanding that they believe that only they go to Heaven. I disagree with that. I believe all who seek salvation go to Heaven. I wont make this about me but I do think that he was a Christian man who did embrace what he was brought up to believe in his church. Although being Christian, I believe that he embraced all cultures and religions. Maybe not to make it his own, but with love and respect for those who had a great spiritual belief system in place. He just loved people and wanted acceptance from everyone. That is good, great and ok! I think he did the right thing. I too am that way. I love you all no matter where you come from. I respect what you believe and find all of it beautiful. However, I have a belief that will not waver and I feel that MJ was the same way.


    I agree...It is just not good for me. <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: -->
  • LunaCieloLunaCielo Posts: 393
    MJ was a babtised JW - and eventually adandoned them.

    Any proof of what you stated JW are involved with?


    Please to read :http://www.infotdgeova.it/.

    For me, it's not good.
  • LunaCieloLunaCielo Posts: 393
    MJ was a babtised JW - and eventually adandoned them.

    Any proof of what you stated JW are involved with?


    Please, to read: <!-- m -->http://www.infotdgeova.it/<!-- m --> or Wikipedia.

    For me, it's not good.
  • LunaCieloLunaCielo Posts: 393
    Michael Jackson : Jehovah's Witness?
    I do not know if he is that or if he was or not.I do not know if his mother is, but if so it’s, that should deepen the Jehovah's Witnesses as an authoritarian organization that controls the followers with the Watchtower (remember the "control" eye of the Masonic pyramid!), produces as social and psychological effects on the lives of people who participate.
    This organization persecute those who leave .
    Of because no criticism is allowed and even doubt, dialogue and openness, is persecuted.
    And :'what happened to Michael?
    Probably Micheal suffered in the mind control .
    Jehovah's Witnesses also engaged in mental programming, you can deepen on the network and through documentations.
    Disturbing and chilling.
    <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: -->

    Seems to me like you don't know what you're writing about.
    Yes, he was JW. So is Katherine. The Watchtower magazine ain't mindcontrol.
    The elderly in the JW, thought that Thrillervideo was being to occult, and talked
    to him about it, and eventually he left the religion. That's what happened.
    JW are not about mind control, it's as mindcontrolling as any other religion.

    Please to read: <!-- m -->http://www.infotdgeova.it/<!-- m -->
  • I have heard J.W. described as an "Oppressive" type religion. It is a very convenient religion for large families as they Do Not believe in celebrating Birthdays or Christmas.
  • Well, I, aswell as Michael both grew up in that religion and left it.
    I think I know more about it than some website you've found.
  • TracyKTracyK Posts: 163
    [quote=
    Seems to me like you don't know what you're writing about.
    Yes, he was JW. So is Katherine. The Watchtower magazine ain't mindcontrol.
    The elderly in the JW, thought that Thrillervideo was being to occult, and talked
    to him about it, and eventually he left the religion. That's what happened.
    JW are not about mind control, it's as mindcontrolling as any other religion.[/quote]

    Please to read: <!-- m -->http://www.infotdgeova.it/<!-- m -->[/quote]

    I agree with you . My ex's mom was JW that I was with for two years. They just do not believe in a lot of the "earthly pleasures" that we partake in. They find it unnecessary and not serving Gods purpose. I for one love celebrating the life that God gives, so birthdays and holidays for us is a good way to take time out of our busy schedules and do that. There are a lot of things that are very close to my religion. But I stick with what I grew up with because those are the values that I have adapted to. They are truth for me.
  • [quote=
    Seems to me like you don't know what you're writing about.
    Yes, he was JW. So is Katherine. The Watchtower magazine ain't mindcontrol.
    The elderly in the JW, thought that Thrillervideo was being to occult, and talked
    to him about it, and eventually he left the religion. That's what happened.
    JW are not about mind control, it's as mindcontrolling as any other religion.

    Please to read: <!-- m -->http://www.infotdgeova.it/<!-- m -->[/quote]

    I agree with you . My ex's mom was JW that I was with for two years. They just do not believe in a lot of the "earthly pleasures" that we partake in. They find it unnecessary and not serving Gods purpose. I for one love celebrating the life that God gives, so birthdays and holidays for us is a good way to take time out of our busy schedules and do that. There are a lot of things that are very close to my religion. But I stick with what I grew up with because those are the values that I have adapted to. They are truth for me.[/quote]

    Yes, it's true. And I understand your point of view.
    I just want to add, in this thread, that bashing his religion is bashing him aswell.
    Don't try to find evil everywhere, he treasured his believes and was a very religious and spiritual man.
  • LunaCieloLunaCielo Posts: 393
    http://v.i.v.free.fr/wt/demasquonsi.html

    The "taboo" of the Watchtower Jehovah's Witnesses, is gradually opened and gutted on this site.
    If we really want to discover the truth about why and how the planet Earth is so battered, at this point of the studies, in-depth features, you can not avoid using the magnifying lens "also" about this religious organization.
    And although the mother of Michael Jackson is sincere devote, with all due respect, I regret very much for her because she was the subject of mind control. "
    And although Michael Jackson's children are attending the organization, I regret even more because it means that Michael Jackson can not escape and free humanity from the "mind control".
    I do not think he wanted to keep their children under the yoke of the congregation.
    Doubts are rising, the outcome of this "hoax" because persistence within this organization - after reading that on the TDG weigh the Illuminati - certainly produces some doubt, after pushing the search for nefarious powers that lurk behind the organizations "enlightened".
    There are books, testimonials, information about the origins and funding of the American Society Watchtower.
    The Watchtower does not only come from a Protestant branch (Advent), but also and especially come from the "heart" of the Masonic Lodge.
    The connections with the Illuminati are clear but obviously not confirmed by the followers: the founder Charles Taze Russell was the Knight Templar of York Rite in Allegheny, the father Master Mason and the mother Mason Mormon.
    The words "Watchtower" comes from the esoteric world and how we read the lengthy but comprehensive article, conferences (meetings) took place in Masonic temples.
    Can not be a "coincidence" that his backers were the usual: .... "Those three bankers: John David Rockefeller, Baron Edmund de Rothschild and manager of one of its main Banks John Pierrepont Morgan!"
    To read slowly and critically. <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: -->
  • If you want to read things in to everything, then to that, feel free.
    I just won't participate. But if anyone in this thread or forum have questions
    regarding JW, it's just to ask, I know it pretty well after living in it for my first 14 years.
  • Michael Jackson : Jehovah's Witness?
    I do not know if he is that or if he was or not.I do not know if his mother is, but if so it’s, that should deepen the Jehovah's Witnesses as an authoritarian organization that controls the followers with the Watchtower (remember the "control" eye of the Masonic pyramid!), produces as social and psychological effects on the lives of people who participate.
    This organization persecute those who leave .
    Of because no criticism is allowed and even doubt, dialogue and openness, is persecuted.
    And :'what happened to Michael?
    Probably Micheal suffered in the mind control .
    Jehovah's Witnesses also engaged in mental programming, you can deepen on the network and through documentations.
    Disturbing and chilling.
    <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: -->

    Please provide the proof that supports your statements.

    Michael's Mother is a devout JW. His children have been attending JW services


    mjkids.jpg

    Who is the boy between Paris and Prince ? Is it one of Jermaines sons ? Are those Jehovas witness books they are carrying ?
  • Michael Jackson : Jehovah's Witness?
    I do not know if he is that or if he was or not.I do not know if his mother is, but if so it’s, that should deepen the Jehovah's Witnesses as an authoritarian organization that controls the followers with the Watchtower (remember the "control" eye of the Masonic pyramid!), produces as social and psychological effects on the lives of people who participate.
    This organization persecute those who leave .
    Of because no criticism is allowed and even doubt, dialogue and openness, is persecuted.
    And :'what happened to Michael?
    Probably Micheal suffered in the mind control .
    Jehovah's Witnesses also engaged in mental programming, you can deepen on the network and through documentations.
    Disturbing and chilling.
    <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: -->

    Please provide the proof that supports your statements.

    Michael's Mother is a devout JW. His children have been attending JW services


    mjkids.jpg

    Who is the boy between Paris and Prince ? Is it one of Jermaines sons ? Are those Jehovas witness books they are carrying ?

    Yes, it's JWbooks. To me it looks like the songbook they
    are singing from in the beginning, in the middle, and in the end of the meetings.
  • Michael Jackson : Jehovah's Witness?
    I do not know if he is that or if he was or not.I do not know if his mother is, but if so it’s, that should deepen the Jehovah's Witnesses as an authoritarian organization that controls the followers with the Watchtower (remember the "control" eye of the Masonic pyramid!), produces as social and psychological effects on the lives of people who participate.
    This organization persecute those who leave .
    Of because no criticism is allowed and even doubt, dialogue and openness, is persecuted.
    And :'what happened to Michael?
    Probably Micheal suffered in the mind control .
    Jehovah's Witnesses also engaged in mental programming, you can deepen on the network and through documentations.
    Disturbing and chilling.
    <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: -->

    Please provide the proof that supports your statements.

    Michael's Mother is a devout JW. His children have been attending JW services


    mjkids.jpg

    Who is the boy between Paris and Prince ? Is it one of Jermaines sons ? Are those Jehovas witness books they are carrying ?

    Yes, it's JWbooks. To me it looks like the songbook they
    are singing from in the beginning, in the middle, and in the end of the meetings.

    Ok, thank you for your answer.
  • LunaCieloLunaCielo Posts: 393
    Please, to read:

    <!-- m -->http://lucesulleombre.forumattivo.com/p ... anche-tra-<!-- m --> i-testimoni-di-geova-t44-15.htm

    The cases of pedophilia in this religious organization are hidden by silence greater than other congregations because here there is a very powerful sense of authoritarianism that prevents from reacting and "instead what ordinary people usually do not know is that events like this happen equally if not more within the ranks of Jehovah's Witnesses, with lots of occultations by the 'clergy' of TDG. Unlike Catholics where things sooner or later come to find out why the Church is the majority religion and Catholics are not fed to the sound of divine terror every time criticize an priest or his work, by passing this attitude as a rebellion against God.
    Much TdG reprimanded and obedience of those who take the Directive not even know that such cases occur very frequently in their organization. Most people do not know, others are silent for fear of desassociation. "
    I think it's also important to reflect on this reality.
    I think Michael Jackson has struggled with this reality.
    And someone has been avenged. <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: -->
  • Yes, it's JWbooks. To me it looks like the songbook they
    are singing from in the beginning, in the middle, and in the end of the meetings.

    I find that strange for some way. Jermaine is a Muslim so I guess he would bring up his kids with the Islamic teachings and not those of Jehova's Witness'. Or Jermajesty's mom must be a JW? If not, those might not be JW books? Anyone who knows?
  • You don't have to be JW, to go to a JWmeeting.
  • CrazyBananaCrazyBanana Posts: 745
    Yes, it's JWbooks. To me it looks like the songbook they
    are singing from in the beginning, in the middle, and in the end of the meetings.

    I find that strange for some way. Jermaine is a Muslim so I guess he would bring up his kids with the Islamic teachings and not those of Jehova's Witness'. Or Jermajesty's mom must be a JW? If not, those might not be JW books? Anyone who knows?

    I remember him saying that it is hard for him to raise them as muslims because they live with their mother or something, and then he said he planned to have kids with Halima and raise the as muslims <!-- s:shock: -->:shock:<!-- s:shock: --> doesnt he have enough kids? LOL and I think he's too old to start having babies...
  • LunaCieloLunaCielo Posts: 393
    An article on the network :
    Pedophilia is widespread, unfortunately, and especially in religious organizations.
    An article on the network :

    "The congregation TdGis use to judge the pedophilians crimes through the domestic courts not only for the crimes perpetrated by the" Seniors "(the approximate amount of Catholic priests), but also those committed by ordinary" proclaim "(the adherents that underlying the movement, similar to "secular" Catholic).
    The policy of protection enjoyed by pedophiles belonging to the organization comes as usual from a literal interpretation of a biblical passage, the Deuteronomy 19:15, which requires at least two witnesses to file a complaint. (Deuteronomy 19:15: "No single witness should rise up against a man than any error or any sin, if he commits any sin. The question must be determined by the mouth of two witnesses or by the mouth of three witnesses" ).

    Since in most cases, the child faces violence or harassment alone, the two witnesses mentioned in the Bible are not present so a pedophile makes away with, given that the "judicial committee" can not continue in that case its action.
    If the victim's family decided to contact the police , they are in almost all cases tried to turn the "judicial committee" for not following the rules of the Bible (the Bible, not the "Crimen Sollecitationis" the Watchtower is infinitely smarter Vatican, I must say), not having shown LOYALTY 'Jehovah's visible organization on earth, or for having "brought reproach" to the name of Jehovah same. "

    To read:
    (2007)
    Jehovah's Witnesses Settle Abuse Cases
    Source: Fox News;
    Jehovah's Witnesses urged to change policy on sex abuse cases
    Source: International Herald Tribune;
    Silentlambs
    Source: Silent Lambs;

    "In the articles linked above, shows the news of the first 16 victims who have renounced the criminal case against the Watch Tower Society in exchange for cash compensation. The American Association Silent Lambs (Silent Lambs), is giving assistance and aid to thousands of victims of sexual abuse of minors within the Organization of Brooklyn, and estimates of the same "Silent Lambs," the secret archives of the "court cases internal "Watch Tower contain more than 23,000 cases of pedophilia hiding in the secret archives of Brooklyn.

    An account numbers:
    Watch Tower (about 7,000,000 faithful) pedophilia cases> 23,000.
    Catholic Church (about 900 million of the faithful) pedophilia cases> 5.000.

    Silent Lambs The association carries out a fundamental battle for the Watch Tower and Tract Society of Pennsylvania abandon the current policy of coverage of criminal cases of importance within the organization, especially those related to crimes of pedophilia and sexual abuse. It also provides legal and psychological assistance to victims of abuse.

    Religious organization on the upper floors, however, are not afraid of further spending some money, the WTS has for sale some of the many scattered properties in Manhattan, creating "the biggest property conversion history in apartments in Brooklyn" in Condominium Sales Kick Off at Former Watchtower Shipping Complex (Source: Brooklyn Daily Eagle). 449 luxury apartments will be derived from this property only, and the minimum price for each of them (obviously for the apartments on the first floor with views of Manhattan) will start from $ 500,000. (Which means a minimum cash flow of $ 224,500,000)

    Other sales are 6 properties in the same area (of the 30 that have WTS) for a net income of $ 60 million, as reported by LUXE PLAN TO TURN Jehovah's PROPHET (Source: New York Post).

    If we wanted to deal in his pocket to WTS, we present an endless list of real estate all over the world, virtually unlimited capacity income resulting from low-cost printing of tens of millions of publications each month, with product placement close to 100 %, and equity investment funds for hundreds of millions of dollars, availability of free labor, efficient and enthusiastic about any kind of business activity the company decides to take ... "

    Do not you know me personally mount a rage against those who exercise power in oceanic similar organizations for their vaunted beliefs religious should keep in high consideration the innocence of defenseless creatures, but especially jumps out the little fact no consideration to innocent victims, considered sacrificial victims. <!-- s:shock: -->:shock:<!-- s:shock: -->


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  • Yes, it's JWbooks. To me it looks like the songbook they
    are singing from in the beginning, in the middle, and in the end of the meetings.

    I find that strange for some way. Jermaine is a Muslim so I guess he would bring up his kids with the Islamic teachings and not those of Jehova's Witness'. Or Jermajesty's mom must be a JW? If not, those might not be JW books? Anyone who knows?

    I remember him saying that it is hard for him to raise them as muslims because they live with their mother or something, and then he said he planned to have kids with Halima and raise the as muslims <!-- s:shock: -->:shock:<!-- s:shock: --> doesnt he have enough kids? LOL and I think he's too old to start having babies...

    I was also thinking it is strange that Jermaine sends his son to a Jehovas Witness meeting, if it really is Jermajesty ?

    Men are never too old to have babies <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: --> and Jermaine is not that old .....
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