TIAI July 29
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great job Grace! can't believe the dna link didn't cross my mind... it has been working too sluggishly to connect the dots :S
seems like it's coming together! with the Bobby Fischer redirect and people popping out of nowhere claiming to be MJ's children, plus Eliza's court case, seems like digging graves is the direction we're heading!
this is truly exciting!! can't wait for it all to unfold
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However, the exhumation option does not seem so valid in Michael's case, because I am pretty sure there is already enough DNA material to be tested, with no need to "exhume him", just like in James Brown's case : "To be prepared for anticipated DNA tests, doctors at the Medical University of South Carolina had retrieved bone fragments from Brown’s body before burial" (<!-- m -->http://www.artharris.com/2008/05/02/dna ... thers-son/<!-- m -->), unless, of course, MPJ is connected to the hoax and the main purpose is to really dig out the alleged tomb and reveal the truth. Otherwise, in a real/simple case, samples of Michael's DNA surely exist and are already available with no need to "exhume" him.
Just an opinion...
LOVE,
Andy
(Oh yes, another similarity I noticed is Barbara Ross saying she never met Michael, and Eliza's mother denying a 'relationship' with Vernon.)
Not so fast... With all the doubles involved and an autopsy performed on a body that was clearly not Michael Jackson's, how could one, with absolute certainty, say "This is Michael Jackson's DNA"? Right now the only one who could do that is Michael Jackson himself and he's ... ya know, dead.
The interesting thing in this case is that there will be a hearing about MJP's claim on September 7:
while Prince Michael Malachi Jet Jackson's claim for a DNA test was rejected by Howard Weitzman:
As far as I can see on the website of the LA Superior Court there never has been a hearing about Prince Michael Malachi Jet Jackson's claim, yet a hearing is scheduled for Mocienne Elizabeth Petit Jackson's claim.
Interesting development which indeed could lead to the exhumation of the body, which is allegedly interred in the tomb under three stained-glass windows which are a re-creation of Nicola D'Ascenzo's "The Ascension."
Mind:
Sit back and enjoy the ride!
Luke 24
The Resurrection
1On the first day of the week, very early in the morning, the women took the spices they had prepared and went to the tomb. 2They found the stone rolled away from the tomb, 3but when they entered, they did not find the body of the Lord Jesus. 4While they were wondering about this, suddenly two men in clothes that gleamed like lightning stood beside them. 5In their fright the women bowed down with their faces to the ground, but the men said to them, "Why do you look for the living among the dead? 6He is not here; he has risen! Remember how he told you, while he was still with you in Galilee: 7'The Son of Man must be delivered into the hands of sinful men, be crucified and on the third day be raised again.' " 8Then they remembered his words.
9When they came back from the tomb, they told all these things to the Eleven and to all the others. 10It was Mary Magdalene, Joanna, Mary the mother of James, and the others with them who told this to the apostles. 11But they did not believe the women, because their words seemed to them like nonsense. 12Peter, however, got up and ran to the tomb. Bending over, he saw the strips of linen lying by themselves, and he went away, wondering to himself what had happened
LOVE,
Andy
An empty tomb wouldn't necessarily be BAM - as you say, it'd just start a body hunt. People could easily imagine and believe that he was secretly buried under a load of concrete at Neverland! A real, living, breathing MJ will be the only real BAM! Opening the tomb and having the real, living, breathing MJ jump out, now THAT would be a BAM!!!
Ah, but then we'd have to do the whole DNA thing to prove it's him not a double! Perhaps that's where all this DNA stuff is leading, to prove who he is, when he comes back, and really nothing to do with who various assorted offspring may or may not be!
Yes if we see it like that it's true an empty tomb would not really be a Bam but rather, as I said, the beginning of a hunt to know where's the body. The family will play a big part in this because they will be questionned by the journalists of the entire planet ! And I wonder how much time it will last (if it happens like that of course I'm only speculating <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D --> )... I don't know what will be the scenario maybe that just after they discover there's no body in the tomb, Michael bams to tell no need to look for a dead body I'm still alive and it corresponds with the worldwide satellite transmission we've talked about.
Maybe that Michael will not pop up out of the tomb or make an appearence in the graveyard (or ? <!-- s:shock: -->:shock:<!-- s:shock: --> ) but will reveal himself with a video or on TV. The message he wants to convey is serious so if he jumps out of the tomb I fear that people will think he's crazy and that he made it just for the Art part. Now everything is possible and sure it would be amazing ! But I feel like it weakens the strength and importance of the message behind the hoax... <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? -->
The discovery of an empty tomb is a kind of pre-bam, the time to let Michael compose and be ready for the real Bam (to see world's reaction and act according to this). Then of course there will be the eternal doubters and the DNA test may come back again.
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Souza and I have been talking about the Easter eggs that might be hidden in the This Is It DVD. So far no one has been able to find one on the DVD, but IF there is one and it would be the missing piece of the hoax puzzle, you can bet your ass on it that it's hidden so well that no one will be able to find it UNLESS we're told HOW to get to it.
So, instead of Mike revealing the hoax and its purpose through a worldwide satellite transmission (which would take at least 2 hours I would say) there could be an announcement, an article or whatsoever telling us how to open the Easter egg.
Wouldn't it be hilarious if millions of people have been sitting on the missing piece of the puzzle for months and months already, but never realized it?
After a year as I will explain to all those people who have gone to the cemetery that Michael "is not there."
In the case of an exhumation should take the "body" where you are, the cemetery or Neverland <!-- s8-) -->8-)<!-- s8-) -->
Oh yes I forgot this piece of the puzzle ! It still has not been discovered yet. Makes a lot of sense that would be tremendous !!!
If an empty grave were found as a result of needing to obtain Michael's DNA samples...can you imagine it? Hooley dooley!!! I am sure alot of people would think that he really was secretly buried someplace else, but I also think it would make alot of people/media who have dismissed the possibility of a faked death as something dreamed up by delusional fans, suddenly realise that maybe Michael did pull of something of this magnitude......scchhweeeetttt!!! The world will be on the edge of its collective seat ! <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->
I've been looking at ways to find any possible Easter Eggs on my TII dvd...but I agree they would be so damn hard to find that we would need to be given the code. I agree too that IF there are easter eggs on the TII dvd then they are there to reveal the how & why of the hoax and this would probably only happen after something like the crypt being opened and finding it empty.
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I've thought about this a lot since I first read about DVD Easter Eggs in TS's post. I'm sure it wouldn't have been mentioned unless it was going to be relevant at some point. This could be the perfect way for MJ to safely explain everything, without having to physically reveal himself. It's already done!
And what do you think about this idea I've just had?
To avoid anyone finding it too soon, MJ could've used the 4 eye principle! Two totally independant sources (TS and TMZ?) each have part of the code. Genius, sheer genius!
We should make the comparison here with the Eliza/Elvis case. Although there were already DNA samples from Elvis in existence,
which should exclude the necessity for exhumation, when tested the results were inconclusive as none of the DNA samples matched!!!
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A Memphis businessman and collector stepped forward with some of Elvis' medical records, including tissue samples from two liver biopsies and his post-mortem. The samples were sent for testing and came back negative - but not just between Jesse and Elvis.
It was also discovered that the DNA from the singer's liver did not match that from his post-mortem, a claim that has supported many of the subsequent web-based theories.
So, if there are existing DNA samples from MJ do they match those taken at his post-mortem???!!! My guess would be a definite NO, which will mean a possible exhumation. <!-- s:o -->:o<!-- s:o -->
Ok we will see in september what happens.
Could someone remind me which update this was mentioned in please? <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: -->
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THANKS!!!
This is the great obstacle.
Easter egg.. <!-- s:?: -->:?:<!-- s:?: -->
"For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."
Indeed Paula good reminder here, we musn't forget that...but I also understand that there is a kind of deadline, the Bam cannot be postponed indefinitely.
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