TIAI December 19
ForstAMoon
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I admit, I was unwilling to consider the Elvis connection in a significant way until recently. I've been reading and studying on my own and I finally get it. Loud and clear. The Elvis/MJ connection is quite astounding, yet very simple, when you think about it.
There are some complex factors involved and I don't need to get into all that, but in the most basic way, if we believe that MJ was of sound mind and body (and I do), and that he was not addicted to drugs, why would he have ever told LMP that he would "end up like Elvis." And why would she say, as she reports in her blog on 6/26/09, that "I told Michael it wasn't a good idea." I don't think that would be a natural response or choice of words if someone tells you they might die of an overdose. I just can't see saying, "you think you're going to die of an overdose? Well, honey, that's not a good idea." <!-- s --><!-- s -->
Plus, we know that MJ faked his death. He knew he would do it so why would he say he'd end up like Elvis if it wasn't hoax related? In another thread I was reflecting on MJ's thoughts about his faith and sense of duty to God. This has always been important to MJ. It's impossible for me to believe that he would abandon his love of God to look into the future and think, "I'm going to die recklessly." Let alone, to say this to his wife who he wants to have his children. Would he have been that callous to tell this to LMP knowing that he would not live to raise his children? Doesn't seem possible in the least.
And, I do understand the numerology. I've never ignored the fact that numbers appear important to MJ in several instances. You have to consider its importance when someone puts numbers on their stage props, their clothes, their signatures and autographs. I'm now learning that numerology was important to Elvis too. Hmmmm.
I also watched the interview in 2003 with LMP on LKL. King asked LMP if Elvis talks to her. She became visibly nervous. I don't see why. I've been asked this before about my father who passed away and it's not an uncomfortable question, imo. I thought she was going to bolt out the room! LKL meant in some sort of clairvoyant way does she feel his presence or talk to her father in a spiritual sense. She stuttered to say that she couldn't answer that. Very curious indeed.
Thank you, TS.
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Thank you TS for your patience and determination, I admire you for it.
"For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."
Thank you for seeing it through.
I have felt we are "missing something" as well. Can't put my finger on it. But if I do I'll let you know <!-- s --><!-- s -->
Oh and TS I'm just so happy and grateful for whatever you post and whenever you redirect. Thanks for not giving up on us when you've been pushed up against a wall. I've still got open arms for you.
Credit to you for your patience and perseverance, lesser others would have given up a long time ago but despite all the critics and skepticism that came your way, you are still here standing and helping us understand the facts and the message. It says a lot about you TS.
The Elvis connection was made on the first day of the Hoax by LMP on her Myspace page.
Whilst I always saw the parallels between MJ and Elvis, I have to admit that I only recently started to accept that Elvis is likely to be Jesse and be alive; until then I thought it was a Hoax within the MJ Hoax... and I was reluctant to get too far into the rabbit hole.
It is true that we may be missing important elements of the connection as Souza pointed out, the question is which ones?
With L.O.V.E
PS. And thank you SoldierofLOVE for your post.
I keep forgetting that part in LMP's blog...those two words are capitalized for no apparent reason...has to be intentional. I have always thought that TS could very well be Elvis himself or someone in the "Elvis camp" instead of someone close to Michael. Or it could be both, like Lisa Marie herself. Also let's not forget how many times she brought up the Elvis connection in her interview with Oprah.. she was being so obvious!
Where? I think that's only an assumption because TS never said if he's male or female. I think TS is a man, too patient to be a woman <!-- s --><!-- s -->
"For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."
Haha...good point <!-- s --><!-- s -->
NOBODY has come with any proofs to reveal TS identity... I heard some unproven claims by wolves in sheep clothing who could not back-up their claim with any one evidence - Fakes never can! They are the Harry Potter equivalent of Dementors.
TS is whoever TS is! This does have no impact on this investigation, we all have the choice to investigate as we wish and interact with whoever we wish to interact with... as far as it is done with RESPECT.
With L.O.V.E
PS: And Yes! Too Patient to be a Woman! ---> I 100% agree! <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
I've never been an Elvis fan and that might be a generational or cultural thing. I was a child in California when Jackson 5 came on the scene... Flower power, Black power, etc. I grew up hearing that Elvis was a racist. I never looked into whether that was true or not, I just didn't give it alot of thought. I had a belief that Elvis was a talented entertainer and nothing more. It's only now that I pay attention to the fact that he was deeply spiritual and into metaphysics, well-read, and in law enforcement. It is this last 'eye-opener' that gives me pause.
In thinking about the many parallels pertaining to a death hoax, that I've made a long list of -- and there are threads here about that as well, we should carefully consider Souza's question about what we might be missing...
I'm curious to hear what you all think about what might be missing. TS, a redirect in this regard would be very helpful, please. Here's what I want to know ( unless it puts MJ in danger. I do believe there are some things we probably shouldn't openly investigate in order to protect MJ so I put this out here cautiously and will understand if the trail goes cold and I need to investigate or observe quietly:
When it comes to Michael, is Elvis friend or foe? Please don't be angry by my asking that but I honestly don't know the answer and perhaps I haven't yet read enough... It's interesting that Elvis wrote to Nixon to ask to be of federal service (in a Republican administration although Elvis reportedly worked for Carter too?) Elvis was anti-drugs and anti-communism. Prior to Nixon appointment of Elvis in an official capacity, Elvis worked in law enforcement for police agencies in Memphis, Denver, Los Angeles...
LA's law enforcement is CORRUPT under no uncertain terms. Was Elvis a Republican? A conservative? There's a letter where he says he was no friend of hippies, Black Panthers, etc. basically anything considered anti-establishment during the age of COINTELPRO. Yet, he had close friends like Muhammad Ali and Jesse Jackson. hmmm. He also had an undercover officer pose as a his band member... Maybe his friendships were "strategic".
Military, law enforcement, metaphysical, southern white male in the music industry. Does this mean Elvis was/Jesse is, pro-NWO and Illuminati or did his hoax mean he did not want to play along with the industry's game? Certainly he was uber exposed to these forces. Is this why Elvis/Jesse has such a keen connection to numerology? There could be other reasons why he's attracted to that - as I am interested in it and learning much these days -
and MJ is interested too, but to what end is Elvis' involvement in it? Which path?
Whereas, Michael is anti-drugs too but is he also anti law-enforcement and anti-NWO? Is this where Elvis/MJ parallels end? In writing this, I am reminded of a series I loved on Showtime called Carnival. The war of good and evil during the Dust Bowl era depicted by two men warring for the control of minds and hearts. Anybody familiar with it? Sadly, it was only on for two seasons.
Anyway, I'm struck by the number of people close to Elvis who seem very clear that Elvis was a racist when it came to interracial dating, marriage and bi-racial children. Is this true? IDK. What was his reaction to the MJ/LMP marriage? Did Elvis/Jesse work with law enforcement against MJ? Did MJ figure it out, get rid of LMP and plot his escape that cleverly looks like Elvis' escape but not to the same end? Is MJ mocking Elvis or are they on the same team for good against evil?
Forgive me if this has been covered and I've missed it. I warned you I was slow but not obtuse so please bear with me and let's talk! <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
It's great to see you started redirecting again TS. Thank you so much for your patience and devotion. I'm so grateful.
And Thank You TS for the redirect and staying with us.
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I am going to try and address your concerns. I can not speak on whether or not Elvis is or was a racist. I have no clue. I do believe if he ever was, he is not now. He is 70 something years old now, I think he is ok with blacks. <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
I do not know of his political affiliation. I suppose that doesn't matter now either due to his age. I do believe he was in law enforcement. I do believe he is anti- NWO. I do believe Michael is anti-NWO. I do believe that they are friends. I have posted some material regarding factions. Government spy type stuff.
This "hoax" is deeper than most people realize. There are alot of truths unfolding. This is Gods work and design. Michael and Elvis/Jesse are essential in this plan.
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The Back Lash to The Presley Estate, Lisa, her mother, and Scientology is Huge!
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This is about the factions and alot of good info on law enforcement connections to Michael. <!-- l -->viewtopic.php?f=48&t=14140&p=239909#p239085<!-- l -->
I posted above Reference threads with research material on the Scientology Cult. References on the factions.
There are some things that once you read enough about Michael and Elvis you can start reading between the lines. Also you will begin to understand that this is it! This really is about the final curtain call. Remember Elvis and Michael believe in the theory of 2012 and EOW..
I hope this helps.
Peace
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That's all... just kidding. We HAVE to study for ourselves, independently, outside of this site, outside of the forum member blogs. I refuse to surround myself with people who will support my findings. I want to know all views and I want to decide for TRUTH... whatever that may be, whether I like what that TRUTH is or not.
2 Tim 4:3-4 says "For a time is coming when people will no longer listen to sound and wholesome teaching. They will follow their own desires and will look for teachers who will tell them whatever their itching ears want to hear. They will reject the truth and chase after myths."
Also I saw a TMZ stating Scientology won't leave me alone! http://www.tmz.com/2010/12/16/shayne-lamas-the-bachelor-church-of-scientology-bill-letter-lawyer-nik-richie-the-dirty/ and I made a mental note to start searching into Elvis, MJ, and scientology as my gut was telling me I need to dig here. Then @Im_convincedmjalive posts a YT clip saying Elvis and Scientology.... I haven't watched it yet but I believe this is where the connecting the dots comes in. Some of the things I believe we need to really grasp and connect together include (but are not limited to) Elvis, MJ, our governments, corruption, religion, false gods, scientology, media, media blackouts, strategic broadcasting, fear vs faith, music industry, hollywood, multinational corporations, the food industry, etc. and how the whole world works together to keep people enslaved but in such a way that we have the illusion of being free. I truly believe that when we really have our eyes opened we are going to have one of two reactions. Fear or faith. Those without a spiritual belief will be fearful. Those with a spiritual belief will know Who has their back... no matter what happens.
I agree with all of you who know that this is more than meets the eye... this is a spiritual battle. What we are in the middle of is HUGE!!!
And for the record, my truth is still that MJ is ALIVE!!! <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->
I, too, believe that there is much we have missed and that there are levels to this hoax which we are just beginning to grasp. The more I read, the more I see and the more I shed my 'old skin'...the more I realize that this isn't big, this is stratospheric! Grab hold and enjoy the ride <!-- s8-) -->8-)<!-- s8-) -->
I wanted to post this cause I was reminded of it after reading TS' last update. It's Plato's Allegory of the Cave and I think it speaks volumes...
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With L.O.V.E. always.
I agree. I'm starting to think that TS might be Elvis himself... <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? -->
Some things that may not have been discussed before is that Elvis predicted his own death date....
At his last concert, he wore a white jumpsuit, with the specially designed mayan calander on the from and back.
On the back of his jumpsuit, you can clearly see the points on the mayan calender...it has 16 outer points marking the day, 8 inner points indicating the month....Elvis died August 16th, 1977.
MJ wore his famouse Lion with wings red shirt, with 3x 7's especially designed on it.
Just thought I'd throw that in if any of you are interested....
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