Are you all reading Pseudocide? Pearl Jr. writes about Karen making comments about Michael's parents teaching him not to like his own race and stuff. I e-mailed Pearl about it and she told me she saw the e-mail that Karen sent to a friend and that she said other negative things as well. I'll ask her some more about it. I don't know what to believe. <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? -->
It would be cool if somebody who has a Twitter could show those excerpts to Karen and see what she has to say.
If you question Faye or her purpose you are blocked from both her FB & twitter <!-- s8-) -->8-)<!-- s8-) -->
Well, that's basically what Pearl wrote, too. <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? -->
IN KF posts she says someone called "Tarik" fired her.. but then contradicts herself on the level of her friendship as says she was told she could work for MJ but not talk to him. Im pretty sure, MJ would decide who he could talk to. Im sure it was him not wanting to talk to her.
Im interested when she says she was present for some of MJs operations.. what is she talking about?
But she paints the picture of MJ being a drug addict and a weak one.. this will go in the defence of Dr Murray.
maybe someone told her not talk to him, because was not HIM... and if she talks to him, who was not HIM (LOL), she would note that him was not HIM... <!-- s --><!-- s -->
maybe she went to some operations for the double to look like HIM! <!-- s --><!-- s -->
if she will go in defence of CM this have to be a HOAX, not doubt! <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
DancingTheDream is truth to these statements are favoring the defense of Murray, including family members now why everyone says that Michael was a drug addict?, He is a very intelligent person and I guess he knew the risks of propofol, and whether he feared being killed, how is that going to put in the hands of well-known not to take medicine?, remember that during the trial Michael was hospitalized for dehydration because he dose not eat or drink anything for fear of being killed. <!-- s:geek: -->:geek:<!-- s:geek: -->
I'm not talking about Michael here, but you guys seriously need to know that intelligence and knowledge on drugs-meds doesn't make you "immune" to have an addiction. You can be the smartest person and have an addiction to drugs, because is something you just can not control. Many doctors have addictions to meds, and I can assure you they know very well its effects and risks...
I'm not talking about Michael here, but you guys seriously need to know that intelligence and knowledge on drugs-meds doesn't make you "immune" to have an addiction. You can be the smartest person and have an addiction to drugs, because is something you just can not control. Many doctors have addictions to meds, and I can assure you they know very well its effects and risks...
Exactly. I would know since I've experienced it upclose myself...
I would kill to get into her head and find out what she thinks about Bashir since she was there touching up Michael's hair and makeup during the time Bashir was doing his interviewing. I would love to know if she got any clues of what Bashir's real motives were anytime before the interviews concluded. And more importantly, if she was an active participant in deluding any of the info that was revealed. Though I believe she was loyal to Michael early on, I don't know if that might have faltered somewhere along the way. Anyone got a clue?
I would know to know about that, too!! <!-- s:evil: -->:evil:<!-- s:evil: -->
I don't believe Karen for one second. I think she was obsessed with MJ but he didn't feel the same & when she was let go it fueled some resentment in her. I really feel that if all the women who were actually a part of MJ's life had problems with her then she herself is a PROBLEM. I think she is saying all of this stuff for attention & to take shots at people because she's mad at the world. I mean honestly, if she really loved MJ she wouldn't be broadcasting all of this about him. She wouldn't get snappy with his fans. She wouldn't fight with people he loved. She's a jealous person. I also think anyone who could, if this has any amount of truth to it, find someone knocked out from drugs to the point they are unresponsive & not call for help or insist on calling 911 for an ambulance doesn't care about the person & then to feed him gatorade & bagels, walk him around & get him on stage when you know he's like that just so he can finish the show is a moron & a money hungry a**hole. I personally. think she never had a close relationship with him, she did his makeup, they probably joked around while she was doing it & that was that. But now she's trying to act like she was closer & that she knows soooo much, when in reality she's just making up lies about everyone either because she's on the bad side or just because she's crazy. I really do wish she would shut up though because whether they were "friends" or not she's not doing MJ any favors by making him out to look like a incoherent, drug addict. In fact, she's doing the opposite, she's trying to throw dirt on his name when she should just keep her mouth closed. The only people who have the right to speak is his family, even his closest friends know to keep their lips sealed, everyone else is just trying to get money.
Can somebody give me a good answer to why she would lie about doing Michael's burial make-up? Has anyone heard a family member deny this because I haven't? So that could A) mean that she actually DID do it <!-- s --><!-- s --> or she's in on the hoax. If option B is what you believe I'm confused, because if she's in on it why are people/fans calling her a jealous lier who was never close to Michael (mind u, she knew the man for 20 years and has never spoken about his private business before as far as I can recall).
Is there something I'm missing here, why the dislike? I know she can be very blunt in her statements but she talks. When someone (seemingly close to Michael) isn't talking we're suspicious and when they are talking we're still suspicious <!-- s:?: -->:?:<!-- s:?: -->
I feel that the revelation she made about doing the burial makeup story was her part in the hoax. Anyone with any sense (sorry not meant to offend) would know that a body that has been out that long would not be viewed at ANOTHER funeral <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: --> First, why put the family through that ritual. For heaven's sake he'd been "deceased" for almost 3 months. Families, by that time, are in a healing phase. Why open up those wounds all over again? So, there would have been in fact no reason to apply any makeup. But for her to claim it with such ferocity seemed to be her way of saying she was the last to see him in the coffin. In other words, "yep" he's dead. I saw it with my own eyes. Kinda like putting the last nail in the coffin (no pun intended). Saying in fact, it's been a while, if you still believe he's alive, well let me put an end to that belief once and for all. I put makeup on him, so there you've got it. Since the coffin would be closed for the funeral ANYWAY <!-- s --><!-- s --> , someone had to come up with a convincing story of having WITNESSED Michael being in there. I guess she got nominated.
That seems like the question that I am asked the most…. that, and the media begging for an interview or a sound bite. The answer to the second question is a radical “NO!”
There is absolutely no way I want to give the media one second of anything that belongs to Michael, just so they can get one more minute of ratings, a job advancement for themselves, or some more money in their greedy little paws, even if it is just me. I am not what they want. They just want another piece of Michael, and they are NOT getting it from me. I hold every moment we spent together sacred and personal. That belongs to us. My silence is the ultimate allegiance to my friend and hero.
The only one that has the authority and integrity to speak, at this time, is Thomas Messereau. He must speak in order to balance those scales of justice… remember that symbol?
I have been at “ground zero” throughout the entire year and a half. From the second day of production of ONE MORE CHANCE shooting in Las Vegas when my wake up call was interrupted by a news alert and helicopter shots of a raid on Neverland; the airplane ride to Santa Barbara where I witnessed Michael’s arms being twisted behind his back to slam shackles on his wrists. My heart has been in shackles until I heard the words NOT GUILTY repeated over and over again. Now how do I feel?
I AM FILLED WITH RAGE!!!!! I saw my dear friend go slowly from a vibrant, creative, loving man to a frail, broken hearted, human being. He was repeatedly raped (emotionally and mentally robbed and destroyed by force and violence). Day in and day out, in the courtroom and in the media, he was abused and violated in the worst possible manner in front the entire world, and me.
How do I feel? I am glad that the jury finally came to the same conclusion we knew all along. And what was the purpose of torturing this beautiful human being not only by a few ignorant (lacking a sense of awareness) lawmen, but also by a media willing to participate in the crucifixion for greed? I am ENRAGED!
I am trying to find the peace in my heart to forgive. Rage is a useless and horrible emotion to carry. Over this past week I have tried to cry it out. I went to the Neverland Gates on vindication day and tried to “hug” it out with all of my friends who marched beside Michael on this journey. I am still working on it.
Michael shared so much with me every day, and I still can not even conceive of how his body and heart is feeling now. All I do know is that Michael needs to recover (reclaim, recuperate) from this most heinous act that anyone could have put him through.
I know he needs to find peace. He did share with me his desire to be ALONE with his children… for him NOT to speak or see any one for a long time. I know he said this to also include me, not in any selfish or greedy manner, but for his own survival. I will respect this completely. But also in the same breath, he shared his love and gratitude for all of his friends that stood by his side.
I know we have so many feelings deep within us that need to be expressed. Many of us feel elated and want to party, some want to bow their heads in prayer and give thanks, and I have my rage to work through. Whatever we may be experiencing, let us please be respectful of Michael’s healing process and give him the time he needs to be able to regain his spirit to the fullest.
I have confidence that the artist, the God energy that dwells in Michael, will not be able to remain still. I am sure the music is still dancing in his mind. I am excited to know how his experiences will translate into his art.
Please, all of his friends, be patient and let us learn, and put the negative behind us quickly.
Let us turn this page with all the knowledge that we have gained. Let us leave Michael in peace. He KNOWS we are here… and waiting for him.
Lets keep dancing.
Karen Faye
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"Sometimes you can just hop in the back of someone's cab and tell them what they're supposed to do. Other times, you have to let them look out at the ocean for a while."
--Jacob
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_my question is why did she need to respond for Michael? And, GET OFFA HIM, MAN, DANG <!-- s --><!-- s --> <!-- s --><!-- s --> <!-- s --><!-- s -->
On one hand, we have TS and the lot of clues and blatant slip-ups from family members.
On the other hand, we have this lady and a few others chanting the same thigns over and over again.
If we are to have any unity in this hoax, we need to have one solid theory.....By saying that I mean that whenever we are on to something, out comes some randm statements that make us doubt our own theories....Simply because, these are allegedly from people who were "close" to him and therefore have to have a certain degree of "authenticity".
I really dont get it....What is the truth about Michael Jackson?
That is exactly why we must never give up on finding the truth about what happened to our beloved MJ. There will be many ups and downs. Many fireworks and many smoke screens to confuse and to blind us. They simply want us all to go away and give up. Keep on praying, keep on fighting, keep on loving, and keep on believing, and I know that we will find the truth. God bless you, Doctor! Your post is so brillant. MJ, baby, I love you. xxxxxxx
I have a hard time believing Karen. I have a hard time believing that a doctor accidently gave Michael too much of whatever shortly before a performace and then say Michael has to sleep for 8 hours. That doesn't make any sense to me. So where was everybody else. Karen didn't mention anyone else. The brothers, Elizabeth, Liza, Katherine, McCauley..had none of them arrived yet? I don't believe that Chuck Dakota's interview story was bogus, like Karen said. But I guess we'll never know. The energy coming from Michael when Karen touches him, just isn't right. I think she was hired for T11 because she already knew him. Being self conscious, Michael probably preferred Karen for that reason and only that reason...Not because he felt warm and fuzzy about her. She has a large mouth. What she did on her FB page is no better then the tabloids. If there was any truth to her ramblings, facebook wasn't the place for it. I get strange vibes from her and personally, I don't think she's wrapped tight.
Karen said her conceal the corpse of Michael, after La Toya said it looked "fabulous" after nearly three months of "dead."
Who looks great after almost three months of dead?, Or maybe La Toya what he said is that Michael was fabulous after nearly three months of the hoax and Karen have been given the task of driving the whole world. <!-- s8-) -->8-)<!-- s8-) -->
Everyone keeps dissin' KF which is none of my business but I posted some questions about her role in the whole thing (if there really is a "thing") a bit further up on this thread and only got one response... Would be interesting to see how you think she fits in with everything. Sure, we know she's acting annoyingly but I care more about her claims about doing Michael's burial make-up because that's highly worrying me... <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? -->
Do you remember when she got into an argument with Martin Bashir (he deserved that, but) Karen was so irked, Michael just sat there patiently. As if she was Michael's wife. It's was strange to watch.
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Well, that's basically what Pearl wrote, too. <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? -->
Maybe somebody dares to try?
maybe someone told her not talk to him, because was not HIM... and if she talks to him, who was not HIM (LOL), she would note that him was not HIM... <!-- s
maybe she went to some operations for the double to look like HIM! <!-- s
if she will go in defence of CM this have to be a HOAX, not doubt! <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
Exactly. I would know since I've experienced it upclose myself...
I would know to know about that, too!! <!-- s:evil: -->:evil:<!-- s:evil: -->
I personally feel KF is just a spiteful be-otch who ended up getting what she deserved.
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Is there something I'm missing here, why the dislike? I know she can be very blunt in her statements but she talks. When someone (seemingly close to Michael) isn't talking we're suspicious and when they are talking we're still suspicious <!-- s:?: -->:?:<!-- s:?: -->
http://www.themjifc.com/forum/innocent/1942-how-do-you-feel-karen-faye.html
"How Do You Feel?" By Karen Faye
Created: Sunday, 19 June 2005
That seems like the question that I am asked the most…. that, and the media begging for an interview or a sound bite. The answer to the second question is a radical “NO!”
There is absolutely no way I want to give the media one second of anything that belongs to Michael, just so they can get one more minute of ratings, a job advancement for themselves, or some more money in their greedy little paws, even if it is just me. I am not what they want. They just want another piece of Michael, and they are NOT getting it from me. I hold every moment we spent together sacred and personal. That belongs to us. My silence is the ultimate allegiance to my friend and hero.
The only one that has the authority and integrity to speak, at this time, is Thomas Messereau. He must speak in order to balance those scales of justice… remember that symbol?
I have been at “ground zero” throughout the entire year and a half. From the second day of production of ONE MORE CHANCE shooting in Las Vegas when my wake up call was interrupted by a news alert and helicopter shots of a raid on Neverland; the airplane ride to Santa Barbara where I witnessed Michael’s arms being twisted behind his back to slam shackles on his wrists. My heart has been in shackles until I heard the words NOT GUILTY repeated over and over again. Now how do I feel?
I AM FILLED WITH RAGE!!!!! I saw my dear friend go slowly from a vibrant, creative, loving man to a frail, broken hearted, human being. He was repeatedly raped (emotionally and mentally robbed and destroyed by force and violence). Day in and day out, in the courtroom and in the media, he was abused and violated in the worst possible manner in front the entire world, and me.
How do I feel? I am glad that the jury finally came to the same conclusion we knew all along. And what was the purpose of torturing this beautiful human being not only by a few ignorant (lacking a sense of awareness) lawmen, but also by a media willing to participate in the crucifixion for greed? I am ENRAGED!
I am trying to find the peace in my heart to forgive. Rage is a useless and horrible emotion to carry. Over this past week I have tried to cry it out. I went to the Neverland Gates on vindication day and tried to “hug” it out with all of my friends who marched beside Michael on this journey. I am still working on it.
Michael shared so much with me every day, and I still can not even conceive of how his body and heart is feeling now. All I do know is that Michael needs to recover (reclaim, recuperate) from this most heinous act that anyone could have put him through.
I know he needs to find peace. He did share with me his desire to be ALONE with his children… for him NOT to speak or see any one for a long time. I know he said this to also include me, not in any selfish or greedy manner, but for his own survival. I will respect this completely. But also in the same breath, he shared his love and gratitude for all of his friends that stood by his side.
I know we have so many feelings deep within us that need to be expressed. Many of us feel elated and want to party, some want to bow their heads in prayer and give thanks, and I have my rage to work through. Whatever we may be experiencing, let us please be respectful of Michael’s healing process and give him the time he needs to be able to regain his spirit to the fullest.
I have confidence that the artist, the God energy that dwells in Michael, will not be able to remain still. I am sure the music is still dancing in his mind. I am excited to know how his experiences will translate into his art.
Please, all of his friends, be patient and let us learn, and put the negative behind us quickly.
Let us turn this page with all the knowledge that we have gained. Let us leave Michael in peace. He KNOWS we are here… and waiting for him.
Lets keep dancing.
Karen Faye
__________________
"Sometimes you can just hop in the back of someone's cab and tell them what they're supposed to do. Other times, you have to let them look out at the ocean for a while."
--Jacob
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_my question is why did she need to respond for Michael? And, GET OFFA HIM, MAN, DANG <!-- s
????? I am confused <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? -->
That is exactly why we must never give up on finding the truth about what happened to our beloved MJ. There will be many ups and downs. Many fireworks and many smoke screens to confuse and to blind us. They simply want us all to go away and give up. Keep on praying, keep on fighting, keep on loving, and keep on believing, and I know that we will find the truth. God bless you, Doctor! Your post is so brillant. MJ, baby, I love you. xxxxxxx
I agree 100 % She's a pain in the butt. <!-- s
Who looks great after almost three months of dead?, Or maybe La Toya what he said is that Michael was fabulous after nearly three months of the hoax and Karen have been given the task of driving the whole world. <!-- s8-) -->8-)<!-- s8-) -->
Do you remember when she got into an argument with Martin Bashir (he deserved that, but) Karen was so irked, Michael just sat there patiently. As if she was Michael's wife. It's was strange to watch.