my heart is dying-----a fan in Autopsy Center said so!!

mjlonglivesmjlonglives Posts: 46
edited January 1970 in General MJ Discussion
several days ago i had my own thought about the top 10 questions on net, and i had a strong feeling that mj is alive......but everything reversed so quickly..just now a fan claimed that she works in the center told us that mj is really dead...she said that she had seen the report ,and can sure that there is no injection pinholes in mj' s body ,and the test tracing Propofol said that mj had those about 10 weeks ago, the time after his announcement in britain. (this can prove that mj was not a druggie!he never keep having drugs for a long time).the reason why they cannot arrest murry is that no evidence showed that murry was the only one to administer propofol to mj...and she said murry is not a doctor,but a heart Consultant ...and the part of mj' s brain had been cremated..also she told us that goverment covered some truths in order to avoid the rate of crime...
my heart is dying, i dont know how to relieve it~~~~~~no offence ,i just come to here for help ,someone maybe save me~~~~~~my heart and my mind is bombed by the "truth"~~~~~~~~~~~~ <!-- s:( -->:(<!-- s:( -->
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  • mjj_fanmjj_fan Posts: 311
    ahan so she saw the report .... another lier .... ask her the details of autopsy i will be more than happy , and do ask her how they figure it out that he took it 10 week before? telling you why , do you know propofol is detected in urine and blood and it leave the body very quickly ,
    intially it was repoted in media that the body was lilly white something the doctors said they havent seen in their life . all we know is mj had vitiligo , with blotches on skin ,all rubbish

    dont be sad i m sure she is lying to you because no one is allowed to stay at the time of autopsy , specially in high profile cases , by the way is she a doctor ? even if she is please ask her details of autopsy or what she saw in the report
  • mjgirl86mjgirl86 Posts: 316
    ............................what?...... <!-- s:( -->:(<!-- s:( -->
  • NathaliaNathalia Posts: 340
    Uh, guys?
    don't lose hope just yet, whether Murray was the only one to give him propofol or not, he should still be arrested if thats the case.....but is he?
    He even admitted to it, what more proof do they need?
    For all we know, this could be another one of those nutcases that are hell-bent on proving us believers wrong. So let's not just give up on our months of investigating. I implore everyone to stay strong.
  • You know anyone can claim anything right? I wouldn't put too much weight on that at all. No one from UCLA officially came out with any information about MJ at all. And this fan sounds like another of the many liars in this.
  • mjgirl86mjgirl86 Posts: 316
    Uh, guys?
    don't lose hope just yet, whether Murray was the only one to give him propofol or not, he should still be arrested if thats the case.....but is he?
    He even admitted to it, what more proof do they need?
    For all we know, this could be another one of those nutcases that are hell-bent on proving us believers wrong. So let's not just give up on our months of investigating. I implore everyone to stay strong.

    Okay, thanks.. I hope you're right <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) --> <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
  • shit!i lost my repost!
    forgive my english
    she said she is an autopsy doctor there,and she was on holidays those days, but she asked her co-workers the details ,she cannot leak the details of the report for occupational ethics.but she can sure that mj is really dead and some truths covered by the gorverment ...maybe she meat that donnot trust the info on net!!!!
  • Eva REva R Posts: 1,217
    yeah right. Again someone wants attention. A fan? Yeah right... <!-- s:| -->:|<!-- s:| -->
  • ahan so she saw the report .... another lier .... ask her the details of autopsy i will be more than happy , and do ask her how they figure it out that he took it 10 week before? telling you why , do you know propofol is detected in urine and blood and it leave the body very quickly ,
    intially it was repoted in media that the body was lilly white something the doctors said they havent seen in their life . all we know is mj had vitiligo , with blotches on skin ,all rubbish

    dont be sad i m sure she is lying to you because no one is allowed to stay at the time of autopsy , specially in high profile cases , by the way is she a doctor ? even if she is please ask her details of autopsy or what she saw in the report
    Last edited by mjj_fan on Thu Dec 10, 2009 9:56 pm, edited 3 times in total.
    she meant that mj kept using that drug for 10weeks ,so doctor must use the tissue of brain to detect the drug!!!and the reason resulted the death is that the doctor give overdose propofol to mj,accopanied two other Hypnotic drugs!!forgive my engish agian!!!
  • shit!i lost my repost!
    forgive my english
    she said she is an autopsy doctor there,and she was on holidays those days, but she asked her co-workers the details ,she cannot leak the details of the report for occupational ethics.but she can sure that mj is really dead and some truths covered by the gorverment ...maybe she meat that donnot trust the info on net!!!!

    Her "co worker" gave her details? I find that hard to believe. The Government covered some truths? That's the most ridiculous thing I've ever herd!! <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: --> <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: --> <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: -->

    I don't believe a word you friend says or you say. You're either another troll trying to convince us believers that MJ is dead or you and/or your friend just want attention. <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: --> If your friend has proof that he's dead, tell her to show us!! You call yourself a fan? Yeah right!! <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: --> <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: --> <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: --> <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: --> <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: -->

    I won't believe MJ is dead until I see actual proof that proves behind a shadow of a doubt that he's gone. Until then I won't believe anyone that comes on here claiming they have proof that MJ's dead. <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: --> <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: --> <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: -->
  • Just wanted to touch on this. I used to work in the medical field doing medical transcription. I contacted one of the doctors that I used to work for and asked about this and was told that Propofol/Diprivan exits the body very quickly (within a few hours) after administration is stopped. It does not leave a trail and therefore it is very difficult to detect if not known to be looked for within a timely manner.
  • Just wanted to touch on this. I used to work in the medical field doing medical transcription. I contacted one of the doctors that I used to work for and asked about this and was told that Propofol/Diprivan exits the body very quickly (within a few hours) after administration is stopped. It does not leave a trail and therefore it is very difficult to detect if not known to be looked for within a timely manner.

    Thank you for clearing this up! That's the same exact thing I've herd on TV. Now I totally don't believe what the OPs friend has to say. I think her friend is either lying or she's just playing games with us. <!-- s:x -->:x<!-- s:x --> <!-- s:evil: -->:evil:<!-- s:evil: --> <!-- s:twisted: -->:twisted:<!-- s:twisted: --> <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? -->
  • Uh, guys?
    don't lose hope just yet, whether Murray was the only one to give him propofol or not, he should still be arrested if thats the case.....but is he?
    He even admitted to it, what more proof do they need?
    For all we know, this could be another one of those nutcases that are hell-bent on proving us believers wrong. So let's not just give up on our months of investigating. I implore everyone to stay strong.

    yeah~ even though they cannot sure whether murry is the only use the drug, they can sure that murry was definitely homicide through negligence,i am curious about that whether murry should be arrested according american laws,or at least be fined!
  • mjj_fanmjj_fan Posts: 311
    thats what i m saying it again and again NO TRACES FOUND in case of propofol intoxication , by the way is she a
    forensic pathologist ,then i must say she e must be something , you know the indian pathologist who did autopsy is doing it for most of celebriteis and to reach that level need years and years of hard work and expoerience ,by the way he is registered pathologist since 70s...that what i read
    when it comes to high profile cases specially with the label of homicide attach to it it means one has to be very precise and accurate with his / her findings and it need s perfection ,, not an ordinary doctor can perform it .. i dont want to offend any one but this is so irrelevant , why would govt cremate his brain when the brain tissue is already taken out examined and EXPERIENCED doctors would have given their expert opinion on that ,
    another thing she can leak the information that govt is behing all that but is not telling you details just to maintain the confidentilality... bogus excuse

    please dont listen to such thing , take care of you keep faith GODBLESS
  • You are very welcome. You know it didn't register with me until I typed the last message that considering the time frame from when Murray found MJ unresponsive to the time he called 911 and then the additional time the EMT's spent at the house "working" on him plus the "over an hour" that the hospital worked on him, I wonder if Propofol was really even detected in his system or if this is just another piece of BS that we are being fed. If you remember correctly the original reports were Demerol and then it changed to Propofol and that was the last drug mentioned and then released in the autopsy report (which again has not been given officially). The media also tried to make us believe that MJ was a prescription junkie but yet no drugs, legal or otherwise, were found in his system. The only things that were found were what Murray supposedly admitted to giving to him.
  • angelshadowangelshadow Posts: 8,257
    This is of course Shocking at first, however, it is only said again.... Many people say a lot! These things we have found, all these "chances" does not bargain Agree .... this is stronger Outbalancing quite simply ... is not still long past for me, the truth must go to the light
    Head high <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
  • shit!i lost my repost!
    forgive my english
    she said she is an autopsy doctor there,and she was on holidays those days, but she asked her co-workers the details ,she cannot leak the details of the report for occupational ethics.but she can sure that mj is really dead and some truths covered by the gorverment ...maybe she meat that donnot trust the info on net!!!!

    Her "co worker" gave her details? I find that hard to believe. The Government covered some truths? That's the most ridiculous thing I've ever herd!! <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: --> <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: --> <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: -->

    I don't believe a word you friend says or you say. You're either another troll trying to convince us believers that MJ is dead or you and/or your friend just want attention. <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: --> If your friend has proof that he's dead, tell her to show us!! You call yourself a fan? Yeah right!! <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: --> <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: --> <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: --> <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: --> <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: -->

    I won't believe MJ is dead until I see actual proof that proves behind a shadow of a doubt that he's gone. Until then I won't believe anyone that comes on here claiming they have proof that MJ's dead. <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: --> <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: --> <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: -->

    first,i am not an english speaker,donnot play jokes on my wording ...
    second,i love mj as deep as you guys...and i am a strong believer that mj is alive,since the day i saw the funeral.i think it was not move enough until paris speaked on the stage,and the first sense tells me that mj is not died.about 2days later i search on net ,and found mjhd ,i kept foucs on that net, just like a driftwood in the river.but i never registered, because of my poor english, and the clues in net gave me a lot of hope and courage~~it makes my keep running after until the day it closed ,and i found this net from that net ,i just only saw these two net at my spare time.....and i put them in my favorites!
    third why i need to draw your attentions..it is better to post on my language mj club~~that will draw more attentions ,because it has more than 80000 fans registerd...
    the last ,i come here ,because most people around think i am crazy...just you guys can comfort me ....and i speak out those just need you guys' surport!! you can give more proof that she was wrong ,but please dont judge me as your will!!!!!
  • Uh, guys?
    don't lose hope just yet, whether Murray was the only one to give him propofol or not, he should still be arrested if thats the case.....but is he?
    He even admitted to it, what more proof do they need?
    For all we know, this could be another one of those nutcases that are hell-bent on proving us believers wrong. So let's not just give up on our months of investigating. I implore everyone to stay strong.

    yeah~ even though they cannot sure whether murry is the only use the drug, they can sure that murry was definitely homicide through negligence,i am curious about that whether murry should be arrested according american laws,or at least be fined!

    To answer your question whether Murray should be arrested according to American Laws
    or at lest be fine. Yes, he should be arrested, fined or at lest his ability to prescribe prescription medication should be suspended until the investigation is complete. I mean, it doesn't make any sense that he's still allowed to administer Propofol and is still allowed to practice medicine! <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: -->

    I'm American and I've NEVER seen a case like this before! There's too many inconsistencies for this to be a real death. I'm not saying that he can't be dead, but I would hope if he is dead that things would be a lot different and would go a lot faster. If it turns out that MJ did die June 25th, there's something radically wrong! <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? -->

    Keep the faith and know the truth will prevail eventually. I wouldn't believe everything we're told until we have actual proof to back it up. <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) --> <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) -->
  • angelshadowangelshadow Posts: 8,257
    If believe we should leave this impoliteness, are here (I hope only people them) MJ think, however, is alive .... we must also accept such news or contributions, thus you love we are steady of it persuaded from what we do and believe (right?)
    I have been with MJHD since June / July ... and do not think to this surrender!
    We cannot be discouraged and can also accept such contributions because we know damn over again what we do...
    I also cannot do well English and know it is unpleasantly, however believes nobody is so childish and To value stupidly this...
    We have 1 common purpose we go on....
  • shit!i lost my repost!
    forgive my english
    she said she is an autopsy doctor there,and she was on holidays those days, but she asked her co-workers the details ,she cannot leak the details of the report for occupational ethics.but she can sure that mj is really dead and some truths covered by the gorverment ...maybe she meat that donnot trust the info on net!!!!

    Her "co worker" gave her details? I find that hard to believe. The Government covered some truths? That's the most ridiculous thing I've ever herd!! <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: --> <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: --> <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: -->

    I don't believe a word you friend says or you say. You're either another troll trying to convince us believers that MJ is dead or you and/or your friend just want attention. <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: --> If your friend has proof that he's dead, tell her to show us!! You call yourself a fan? Yeah right!! <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: --> <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: --> <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: --> <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: --> <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: -->

    I won't believe MJ is dead until I see actual proof that proves behind a shadow of a doubt that he's gone. Until then I won't believe anyone that comes on here claiming they have proof that MJ's dead. <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: --> <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: --> <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: -->

    first,i am not an english speaker,donnot play jokes on my wording ...
    second,i love mj as deep as you guys...and i am a strong believer that mj is alive,since the day i saw the funeral.i think it was not move enough until paris speaked on the stage,and the first sense tells me that mj is not died.about 2days later i search on net ,and found mjhd ,i kept foucs on that net, just like a driftwood in the river.but i never registered, because of my poor english, and the clues in net gave me a lot of hope and courage~~it makes my keep running after until the day it closed ,and i found this net from that net ,i just only saw these two net at my spare time.....and i put them in my favorites!
    third why i need to draw your attentions..it is better to post on my language mj club~~that will draw more attentions ,because it has more than 80000 fans registerd...
    the last ,i come here ,because most people around think i am crazy...just you guys can comfort me ....and i speak out those just need you guys' surport!! you can give more proof that she was wrong ,but please dont judge me as your will!!!!!

    I'm not judging you. That's not my intent. We've had so many people come on here trying to convince us that MJ is dead. Their only intent was to play games and mess with our emotions(aka trolls) Sorry... <!-- s:oops: -->:oops:<!-- s:oops: -->
  • angelshadowangelshadow Posts: 8,257
    it is normally many want to throw us from the road, however, I think ....... Pointlessly <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->
  • tiida11tiida11 Posts: 248
    It's not impossible. She might work in the office where the papers are kept, not necessarily to take part at an autopsy. She might have access to reports , why not?
    But , until i see a copy of that report i don't believe a word.
  • thats what i m saying it again and again NO TRACES FOUND in case of propofol intoxication , by the way is she a
    forensic pathologist ,then i must say she e must be something , you know the indian pathologist who did autopsy is doing it for most of celebriteis and to reach that level need years and years of hard work and expoerience ,by the way he is registered pathologist since 70s...that what i read
    when it comes to high profile cases specially with the label of homicide attach to it it means one has to be very precise and accurate with his / her findings and it need s perfection ,, not an ordinary doctor can perform it .. i dont want to offend any one but this is so irrelevant , why would govt cremate his brain when the brain tissue is already taken out examined and EXPERIENCED doctors would have given their expert opinion on that ,
    another thing she can leak the information that govt is behing all that but is not telling you details just to maintain the confidentilality... bogus excuse

    please dont listen to such thing , take care of you keep faith GODBLESS

    she said she was a forensic pathologist in los angeles forensic center.. she was not my friend ,and i dont even know her,i read her post in the fan club..she post ed it so condidentilly...maybe i am naive..i was taken for a ride...thanks ,i just rethink her post ,and now i am back on your lines...and i will remention that no offence of my post....my heart just like a glass one, i dare not to read everyting about so-called "truth...."~~~~and thanks again~~ forgive my english ~~~~
  • I love how they conveniently chose a drug for MJ to OD on and "die" that is one that leaves the body quickly and cannot be traced after a certain time. Choosing Propofol was done on purpose so they could slow the arrest and investigation to give MJ time to comeback and/or do what he has to do. They cannot arrest anyone in this matter simply because propofol was never given in the first place. Propofol was chosen BECAUSE it cant be traced and I find it hard to believe they found toxic levels in his autopsy after MANY hours of him supposedly being dead.

    EHHHH WRONG ANSWER!!!!
  • Don't believe her. Nobody knows how Michael really looked like in private. It's easy to label an other body to distract.
    And the report is NOT right, neither as the deathstatement (there are 3 different ones)

    Ask her witch official name was on the autopsy report...
  • I'm not judging you. That's not my intent. We've had so many people come on here trying to convince us that MJ is dead. Their only intent was to play games and mess with our emotions(aka trolls) Sorry...
    forgive my english and my stupid computer..
    it is my second reply..

    you really made my cry and hurt my heart badly....but i will fogive you if you dont mind sending me 2candies....i 'll share them with mj somewhere <!-- s:P -->:P<!-- s:P -->
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