“The End Is Near” 777, ARK, WARNINGS...

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  • SarahliSarahli Posts: 4,265



    Good Job!

    You'd be surprised How close to the TRUTH movies really are.
    I think this was A huge Clue from TS when it was mentioned in the updates about The ARK.

    I am glad you went there and got this info, so now we are right back to Knights Templar and now onto the Vatican, I knew we would get there soon enough. (Remember the words surrounding my name?) Freaky.

    We're on the Raiders Of the Lost ARK Adventure now, lol

    Peace
    Comparison...
    The Staff of Ra, meanwhile, is the key to finding the Well of Souls, in which the Ark is buried.

    Revelation 11 (Amplified Bible)
    Revelation 11
    1 A REED [as a measuring rod] was then given to me, [shaped] like a staff, and I was told: Rise up and measure the sanctuary of God and the altar [of incense], and [number] those who worship there.


    Wow ! Great comparison indeed. So we also have to look for the Staff of Ra ! <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: -->
  • You know! I have been thinking about this "Ark of the covenant clue" for nearly a year now, and I have scratched my head many, many times... but nothing I found, read about made me feel that "I got it".

    This morning however, I got an idea that the clue may not be so much about the ark of the covenant itself but more about what the ark may be associated with... so here are my thoughts:

    As Sarahli and others pointed out, the Ark of the Covenant could well be associated with the Steven Spielberg film the raiders of the lost Ark.



    Good Job!

    You'd be surprised How close to the TRUTH movies really are.
    I think this was A huge Clue from TS when it was mentioned in the updates about The ARK.

    I am glad you went there and got this info, so now we are right back to Knights Templar and now onto the Vatican, I knew we would get there soon enough. (Remember the words surrounding my name?) Freaky.

    We're on the Raiders Of the Lost ARK Adventure now, lol

    Peace
    Comparison...
    The Staff of Ra, meanwhile, is the key to finding the Well of Souls, in which the Ark is buried.

    Revelation 11 (Amplified Bible)
    Revelation 11
    1 A REED [as a measuring rod] was then given to me, [shaped] like a staff, and I was told: Rise up and measure the sanctuary of God and the altar [of incense], and [number] those who worship there.


    Wow ! Great comparison indeed. So we also have to look for the Staff of Ra ! <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: -->

    According to Theraider.net (http://www.theraider.net/features/articles/demille.php Steven Spielberg was heavily influenced by Producer/director Cecil DeMille for important scenes in the film and Cecil DeMille was a "disciple" of PT Barnum.

    (A bit of background on Cecil DeMille: Prototypical Hollywood producer/director Cecil B. DeMille was a living example of one who believed implicitly in P. T. Barnum's most famous axiom, "There's one born every minute." DeMille was one of the few early silent directors who was able to cross over into the sound era. He specialized in large-scale epics, often loosely based on the Bible, liberally peppered with sex. Two of his earlier talkies, Cleopatra (1934), and 1932's Sign of the Cross represent the height of his work, in my opinion. As DeMille aged, he began to make bigger and more grandiose versions of his earlier films. One such work was The Ten Commandments, made as a silent film in 1923 and again as a talkie in 1956.The greatest Show on Earth was done in 1952.)

    This gives us a clear association between the Ark of the Covenant story published on the 25th June 2009 and PT Barnum; and brings us full circle to the very start of the Greatest Show on Earth (The Greatest Showman on Earth faking his Death) - remember the Barnum elephants in the street on the day of the memorial?

    This is simply amazing!

    With L.O.V.E
  • ... And the other association I forgot to mention in my previous post is between Steven Spielberg and the Liberian Girl video with Steven Spielberg acting as the video director whilst Mike was actually directing it.... It is so good! <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->

    With L.O.V.E
  • SarahliSarahli Posts: 4,265
    Good observations TheRunningGirl ! I thought about that too that maybe the Ark is not about the Ark itself but rather about the symbolisms around. Now as stated before the Pandora's box has been opened and all possibilites have to be considered. When I read the Scriptures I understand that there was really an Ark with the tables of the 10 Commandements inside, it must be somewhere no ?
    Thank you and God bless you.
  • You know! I have been thinking about this "Ark of the covenant clue" for nearly a year now, and I have scratched my head many, many times... but nothing I found, read about made me feel that "I got it".

    This morning however, I got an idea that the clue may not be so much about the ark of the covenant itself but more about what the ark may be associated with... so here are my thoughts:

    As Sarahli and others pointed out, the Ark of the Covenant could well be associated with the Steven Spielberg film the raiders of the lost Ark.



    Good Job!

    You'd be surprised How close to the TRUTH movies really are.
    I think this was A huge Clue from TS when it was mentioned in the updates about The ARK.

    I am glad you went there and got this info, so now we are right back to Knights Templar and now onto the Vatican, I knew we would get there soon enough. (Remember the words surrounding my name?) Freaky.

    We're on the Raiders Of the Lost ARK Adventure now, lol

    Peace
    Comparison...
    The Staff of Ra, meanwhile, is the key to finding the Well of Souls, in which the Ark is buried.

    Revelation 11 (Amplified Bible)
    Revelation 11
    1 A REED [as a measuring rod] was then given to me, [shaped] like a staff, and I was told: Rise up and measure the sanctuary of God and the altar [of incense], and [number] those who worship there.


    Wow ! Great comparison indeed. So we also have to look for the Staff of Ra ! <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: -->

    According to Theraider.net (http://www.theraider.net/features/articles/demille.php Steven Spielberg was heavily influenced by Producer/director Cecil DeMille for important scenes in the film and Cecil DeMille was a "disciple" of PT Barnum.

    (A bit of background on Cecil DeMille: Prototypical Hollywood producer/director Cecil B. DeMille was a living example of one who believed implicitly in P. T. Barnum's most famous axiom, "There's one born every minute." DeMille was one of the few early silent directors who was able to cross over into the sound era. He specialized in large-scale epics, often loosely based on the Bible, liberally peppered with sex. Two of his earlier talkies, Cleopatra (1934), and 1932's Sign of the Cross represent the height of his work, in my opinion. As DeMille aged, he began to make bigger and more grandiose versions of his earlier films. One such work was The Ten Commandments, made as a silent film in 1923 and again as a talkie in 1956.The greatest Show on Earth was done in 1952.)

    This gives us a clear association between the Ark of the Covenant story published on the 25th June 2009 and PT Barnum; and brings us full circle to the very start of the Greatest Show on Earth (The Greatest Showman on Earth faking his Death) - remember the Barnum elephants in the street on the day of the memorial?

    This is simply amazing!

    With L.O.V.E


    Thanks for contributing...

    I am quoting THE MOST IMPORTANT PART from the info you provided.

    DeMille was one of the few early silent directors who was able to cross over into the sound era.

    <!-- s:ugeek: -->:ugeek:<!-- s:ugeek: --> He specialized in large-scale epics, often loosely based on the "Bible", liberally peppered with sex. <!-- s:ugeek: -->:ugeek:<!-- s:ugeek: -->"

    Two of his earlier talkies, Cleopatra (1934), and 1932's Sign of the Cross represent the height of his work, in my opinion. As DeMille aged, he began to make bigger and more grandiose versions of his earlier films.

    <!-- s:ugeek: -->:ugeek:<!-- s:ugeek: --> One such work was "The Ten Commandments", made as a silent film in 1923 and again as a talkie in 1956. <!-- s:ugeek: -->:ugeek:<!-- s:ugeek: -->

    This IS in my opinion THE OBJECTIVE.
    When basing where we are looking for info in relation to The ARK of The Convenant.
    Peace

    Just Curious...Have you read any of what we wrote earlier in the thread?
  • You know! I have been thinking about this "Ark of the covenant clue" for nearly a year now, and I have scratched my head many, many times... but nothing I found, read about made me feel that "I got it".

    This morning however, I got an idea that the clue may not be so much about the ark of the covenant itself but more about what the ark may be associated with... so here are my thoughts:

    As Sarahli and others pointed out, the Ark of the Covenant could well be associated with the Steven Spielberg film the raiders of the lost Ark.



    Good Job!

    You'd be surprised How close to the TRUTH movies really are.
    I think this was A huge Clue from TS when it was mentioned in the updates about The ARK.

    I am glad you went there and got this info, so now we are right back to Knights Templar and now onto the Vatican, I knew we would get there soon enough. (Remember the words surrounding my name?) Freaky.

    We're on the Raiders Of the Lost ARK Adventure now, lol

    Peace
    Comparison...
    The Staff of Ra, meanwhile, is the key to finding the Well of Souls, in which the Ark is buried.

    Revelation 11 (Amplified Bible)
    Revelation 11
    1 A REED [as a measuring rod] was then given to me, [shaped] like a staff, and I was told: Rise up and measure the sanctuary of God and the altar [of incense], and [number] those who worship there.


    Wow ! Great comparison indeed. So we also have to look for the Staff of Ra ! <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: -->

    According to Theraider.net (http://www.theraider.net/features/articles/demille.php Steven Spielberg was heavily influenced by Producer/director Cecil DeMille for important scenes in the film and Cecil DeMille was a "disciple" of PT Barnum.

    (A bit of background on Cecil DeMille: Prototypical Hollywood producer/director Cecil B. DeMille was a living example of one who believed implicitly in P. T. Barnum's most famous axiom, "There's one born every minute." DeMille was one of the few early silent directors who was able to cross over into the sound era. He specialized in large-scale epics, often loosely based on the Bible, liberally peppered with sex. Two of his earlier talkies, Cleopatra (1934), and 1932's Sign of the Cross represent the height of his work, in my opinion. As DeMille aged, he began to make bigger and more grandiose versions of his earlier films. One such work was The Ten Commandments, made as a silent film in 1923 and again as a talkie in 1956.The greatest Show on Earth was done in 1952.)

    This gives us a clear association between the Ark of the Covenant story published on the 25th June 2009 and PT Barnum; and brings us full circle to the very start of the Greatest Show on Earth (The Greatest Showman on Earth faking his Death) - remember the Barnum elephants in the street on the day of the memorial?

    This is simply amazing!

    With L.O.V.E


    Thanks for contributing...

    I am quoting THE MOST IMPORTANT PART from the info you provided.

    DeMille was one of the few early silent directors who was able to cross over into the sound era.

    <!-- s:ugeek: -->:ugeek:<!-- s:ugeek: --> He specialized in large-scale epics, often loosely based on the "Bible", liberally peppered with sex. <!-- s:ugeek: -->:ugeek:<!-- s:ugeek: -->"

    Two of his earlier talkies, Cleopatra (1934), and 1932's Sign of the Cross represent the height of his work, in my opinion. As DeMille aged, he began to make bigger and more grandiose versions of his earlier films.

    <!-- s:ugeek: -->:ugeek:<!-- s:ugeek: --> One such work was "The Ten Commandments", made as a silent film in 1923 and again as a talkie in 1956. <!-- s:ugeek: -->:ugeek:<!-- s:ugeek: -->

    This IS in my opinion THE OBJECTIVE.
    When basing where we are looking for info in relation to The ARK of The Convenant.
    Peace

    Just Curious...Have you read any of what we wrote earlier in the thread?

    Hello! Im_convincedmjalive, My pleasure.

    Yes! I have read all the good infos on this thread and I was very impressed by the ideas and depth of the thinking. Loved it but did not feel that I had any inspirational thoughts to contribute at the time. The Ark of the Covenant is a very rich and absorbing topic, and one that needs an open mind! (I absolutely agree with you Sarahli)

    My morning thoughts (Those that follows my double espresso!) got me to look at it a bit differently, through associations; Michael got associated with the Ark of the Covenant in the the television show South Park in a 2004 episode - Season 8 Episode 7 - titled "The Jeffersons" and I thought that the entertainment angle was a worthwhile one to explore:
    The raiders of the lost ark to Steven Spielberg to the Liberian Girl and to C DeMille. C DeMille to the Greatest Show on Earth (PT Barnum) and the 10 Commandments.

    I am sure we are getting closer - If the 25th June 2009 announcement was not a coincidence, was it then real? <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
    R47. Ark of the Covenant
    {http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ark_of_the_Covenant}

    The Ark of the Covenant? What in the world does that have to do with MJ? Is there some connection with the Raiders of the Lost Ark? Perhaps. But those who read the Wiki article carefully noticed a very interesting date: “On 25 June 2009, the patriarch of the Orthodox Church of Ethiopia, Abuna Paulos, said he would announce to the world the next day the unveiling of the Ark of the Covenant …” {http://weeklyworldnews.com/headlines/9322/ark-of-the-covenant-revealed/; <!-- m -->http://www.ethiopianreview.com/content/ ... fter-all/;<!-- m --> and <!-- m -->http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/ar ... ead=149823<!-- m -->}

    The unveiling did not actually occur. But why the amazing date of 6-25-09, was this yet another strange coincidence? This of course was the exact same day that the MJ “death” was

    With L.O.V.E

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    <!-- m -->http://www.rumormillnews.com/RUSSBACHER_DOCS.htm<!-- m -->
    Gunther Russbacher was a CIA operative.

    This is about The Contra Affairs and President Bush always denying involvement.
    The Bush Family has been screwing The USA for along TIME.

    <!-- m -->http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran%E2%80%93Contra_affair<!-- m -->
    The Contra Affairs with Oliver North.

    A Man By The Name of <!-- m -->http://twitter.com/FreewayRicky<!-- m -->
    Was SET UP back THEN during THE CONTRA Affairs and spent 20 years in Prison because of LA Corruption, The Reagan administration, and Oliver North.

    Truth being exposed.

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    This whole TIAI revealed Part 7 is ALL about Conspiracies and HOW Corrupt The USA Government is. Above is Proof Positive that it has been going on Far Longer Than just MJ.
    TIAI Revealed, Part 7: NWO Powers Control the Mass Media (R29 - R42)

    This whole part 7 deals with the secret societies; and especially their agenda to create a one-world religion and one-world government system, called the New World Order (NWO). There are many such societies, including: Illuminati, Skull & Bones, Masons, and many more; they are bricks in the pyramid (shown on the back of the U.S. one dollar bill). Instead of trying to identify individual secret societies, the general term “NWO powers” will be used.

    Michael is well aware of these NWO powers, their corruption, their tremendous power, and their conspiracies (see R29). And he knows that these powers control the mass media; which means that if you do a hoax to expose the mass media corruption, you are inherently going to come under the wrath of the powers that control the media—you can’t do one, without having the other. So he has to be very careful with when and how he returns to the public eye.

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    R29. MJ on Police Brutality
    {http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OO7wOwdTwB8}

    The redirect for this day was another YouTube video; it was a segment on police brutality, from the 60 minutes interview in December of 2003. It is of course very sad the way that MJ was treated; but the truly heroic part, was his humble and mild response—you have to watch it, if you haven’t already.

    Later in this same interview (part 3), Michael said: “I don’t want to say too much … there’s a conspiracy, yeah; I don’t want to say too much. I’m done.” {http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SK9jyZaCgVc, at 8:20} You see, he didn’t want to say much, because he knew the danger involved in exposing the NWO powers. And no, he was not talking about some small-town conspiracy; he was talking “media” conspiracy, and “manipulating history books”, etc. Watch the following YouTube video; it has good information, even though they mistakenly think that he was murdered {http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbK41pGa3IA}.

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    R30. The Illuminati Theory – Not Involving Murder
    {http://mjconspiracy.50.forumer.com/viewtopic.php?f=69&t=1174&sid=a4ef6b06643d9e5fbd731f40beadadd0}

    Here was a thread from the MJ-conspiracy.com hoax forum; this thread was chosen because of the title, and also some of the posts in the thread. I will quote from some of Lacey5842’s post; it is very well stated!

    “All the while this is happening [the hoax] people are waking up, not necessarily to him being alive, but to what is happening in the world that effects them and they aren’t happy. They’ve started to look for answers on how we, humanity, can stop this evil minority from continuing with their plans. So, essentially, people are becoming united all over the world for example that’s how you and I are now connected. All the while this is happening Michael is safely hidden away, watching what is happening from a distance. I believe that once Michael can see that enough people are united and have enough knowledge of all that is happening he will then feel safe enough to reveal that he is still alive and confirm his message. In effect all those that didn't believe he was still alive will then see that, in fact, he is but they will also have all the knowledge of the things happening around them. Michael will then have his army, ‘Soldiers of Love’ and not one of his billions of soldiers are going to allow anything to happen to him because if anything did happen to him the Elite would know that there would be war and our army is far bigger then [than] theirs but is also worldwide. They will know they don’t stand a chance so in effect they won’t even try. It is my belief that when Michael does return there will be a war but it will be a non violent, peaceful war. A war based on numbers, unity, wits and L.O.V.E.

    This thread was also used, because of the title: The Illuminati Theory – Not Involving Murder! Since the next half-a-dozen redirects would deal with murders, this title was used to show that MJ himself was not murdered. In spite of this, and many other TIAI redirects pointing to a hoax and not a murder, some still thought that TIAI was trying to say that MJ was murdered.

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    R31. George Magazine, Inaugural Issue
    {http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/a8/George_%28magazine%29.jpg}

    This clue was the cover of the first issue of JFK Junior’s magazine, George. This redirect was chosen for multiple reasons, most of which can be seen on the cover picture—including these statements: “the next american revolution”; and “not just politics as usual”.

    George earned infamy in the conspiracy cyberculture, when an article slated to run in the October 1998 ‘Conspiracy Issue’ on the top conspiracy writers was killed at the last minute by George editors. Titled ‘Princes of Paranoia,’ it would have highlighted writers and websites that were popular in the field of conspiracy theory and given their work exposure to a wider audience.” {http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_(magazine)} Less than a year later, on July 16, 1999, JFK Jr. was permanently silenced; after that, there would be no more danger of him exposing any conspiracies.

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    R32. George? (Google Images, Page 10)
    {http://images.google.com/images?gbv=2&hl=en&q=George%3F&sa=N&start=170&ndsp=21}

    The primary reason for the George magazine clue above, however, was the title itself: George. Regarding the assassination of JFK Senior: “… polls conducted from 1966 on show as many as 80% of the American public hold beliefs contrary to these findings [the government conclusion that Lee Harvey Oswald was the ‘lone gunman’].” {http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JFK_assassination}

    Close friends of JFK Jr. said, and common sense should also tell you, that his single biggest goal in life was: to discover the conspiracy behind his father’s murder, and bring it to public knowledge. He of all people in the world had the motivation, and also the connections, to get the “inside” information.

    Yet he also knew that it wouldn’t be easy to get this information out, without making himself a target. So he decided to put the first name, of the person who orchestrated his father’s murder, into the title of his magazine. And he also had Cindy Crawford dressed as George Washington, to show the connection with the US Presidency (this would also serve to distract those who were not in tune with the real reason for the name “George”).

    If you look at a list of US Presidents from the beginning until 1995 (when the magazine came out), you will find only two Presidents with the name “George”: George Washington, and George H. W. Bush (Senior) {http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Us_presidents}. Obviously, George Washington did not orchestrate the assassination of JFK Sr. So it was George Bush Senior that murdered JFK Senior (and later George Bush Junior murdered JFK Junior).

    These corrupt NWO leaders really don’t care if you believe in conspiracies, etc—just as long as the culprits remain in the realm of unidentified mysteries. But they definitely don’t want to be identified by name and face; especially not the well-known ones, like the Bush family.

    The Google images page, at the time of this redirect (now the images are arranged differently), had pictures of all three “George” US Presidents: Washington, Bush Sr., and Bush Jr. Many noticed Bush Jr. to the right of Washington; but if you look close, the picture above Washington is Bush Senior {http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=27&start=475, look at the second post by Serenity’s_Dream on that page}.

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    R33. Murder of JFK Jr.
    {http://revver.com/video/14470/murder-of-jfk-jr/}

    This redirect was to the trailer for a video on the murder of JFK Jr. This murder of JFK was chosen, partly because it is a classic example of how much power these NWO leaders have over the media. If you watch the whole video, or even the trailer, you will see that the first news reports said that John had made a radio call just before the crash. Then when the Pentagon took over, this fact was silenced in all of the mainstream media channels.

    There is one major piece of evidence, though, that did not get filtered out; it can still be found in the official NTSB report, on their official website {http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief2.asp?ev_id=20001212X19354&ntsbno=NYC99MA178&akey=1}: “The fuel selector valve was recovered … and the valve was found in the OFF position.” Yet the NTSB went along with the media story about the cause of the crash {http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief.asp?ev_id=20001212X19354}: “The National Transportation Safety Board determines the probable cause(s) of this accident as follows: The pilot’s failure to maintain control of the airplane during a descent over water at night, which was a result of spatial disorientation.”

    Any experienced pilot should see a glaring problem with the NTSB’s own report. If John lost control of the airplane from spatial disorientation (confusion): why was the fuel valve turned off? If you are disoriented and out of control, the only thing you are worried about is getting the plane level again; and turning off the fuel isn’t going to help level the plane in the least bit—that would be a total waste of time, when every second counts! And you can’t just accidentally bump it into the off position; no, it takes deliberate effort (so that you don’t accidentally shut the fuel off while flying, and lose your engine).

    Also, shutting the fuel valve won’t keep you alive if the plane nosedives into the water or ground; you will most likely die from the impact. Furthermore, shutting the valve won’t keep the plane from catching on fire or exploding upon impact. Think about it. What about the planes that hit the trade towers: do you suppose if they had shut the fuel valves off just before impact, then there would’ve been no explosion?? Nonsense!

    Then why was the fuel valve shut off in JFK Junior’s plane? Most likely, as stated in the video, there was a Manchurian candidate flight instructor on board. He was probably programmed to shut the fuel valve off, while John was making his radio call to the landing airport; John would be distracted at that moment, and might not notice the instructor turning the fuel valve off.

    A few seconds later, the engine would quit from lack of fuel; then the instructor would push the plane into a nosedive. John would then have to physically fight the instructor to get the control back; and even if he succeeded at that (which would be very difficult), he would then have to deal with a dead engine. While trying to restart the engine, the instructor could nosedive the plane again; and so on.

    The NTSB official website reports that the same basic thing happened on Egypt Air 990; and this was in the same general area, only about 100 days later. The “FDR [flight data recorder] recorded an abrupt nose-down elevator movement … the engines were shut off. … the captain, surprised to realize that the engines had been shut off, was trying to tell the relief first officer to leave the engines alone.” {http://www.ntsb.gov/Publictn/2002/aab0201.htm}

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    R34. MJalive999 YouTube Video, Part 2
    {http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1X7xZ41od0&NR=1}

    Another YouTube video; this time, though, it is a video specifically about the TIAI redirects. It is actually part 2 in a series—all of which are good; but part 2 was the redirect, because it had the information dealing with the Kennedys. Not only was the information good on that video; but MJalive999 had figured out the connection with the George magazine title, and JFK Junior naming his father’s murderer with the magazine title.

    I also wonder if MJalive999 picked that username, because of the 9-9-09 date in relation to “This Is It”. Another account on YouTube, called PianoGames, also did a video (part 16) on the TIAI redirects {http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJ46Vjti1kU}.

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    R35. Google Search on Various Conspiracy Murders
    {http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&rlz=1W1SUNA_en&tbo=0&q=conspiracy+%22pearl+harbor%22+jfk+rfk+mlk+%22princess+di%22+911+titanic+...&aq=f&oq=&aqi}

    After going through several redirects related to JFK (Jr. & Sr.), this redirect was for the purpose of showing that there are many more such cases. No particular web page was intended in this redirect; instead, the Google search was merely to show that there is a lot of information on the internet that you can research. Some got a virus from clicking on one of the search hit pages; sorry, this was not intentional. Before doing any internet searching, you should have good antivirus software; because any web page can potentially contain a virus.

    The list on the Google search was Pearl Harbor, JFK, RFK, MLK, Princess Di, 911, and the Titanic; Pearl Harbor was listed first, because that redirect was on December 7 (Pearl Harbor Day, 68th anniversary). Some said that other cases should’ve been included. However, there wasn’t much more room in the search box; if you looked close, though, there were three dots at the end (…) to indicate more—yes, there are many more cases. And all of the cases listed have common elements: conspiracy by corrupt powers in the government to murder their own people, and for the purpose of establishing the NWO.

    Also, about half of the listed cases have close connection with MJ: he knew Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis {http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moonwalk_(book)}; here is a YouTube video with MJ and Lady Diana {http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0aG8SXa-j8}; and MLK III spoke at MJ’s memorial {http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPOCwa4YnMQ}.

    The last one given in the search list was the Titanic; and although the sinking is very well known, the conspiracy behind it is rarely heard of—even among those who recognize a lot of the conspiracies. The NWO powers were trying to set up the Federal Reserve, for controlling money and funding their agenda; but some very wealthy and influential people knew that this would be bad, and were against it. So what did the NWO powers do about it? They sunk a whole ship, and murdered 1,517 people—just to get rid of the opposition.

    “On the maiden voyage of the Titanic some of the most prominent people of the day were travelling in first–class. Some of these included millionaire John Jacob Astor IV {http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Jacob_Astor_IV} and his wife Madeleine Force Astor [one of the wealthiest families in the United States], industrialist Benjamin Guggenheim {http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benjamin_Guggenheim}, Macy’s owner Isidor Straus {http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isidor_Straus} and his wife Ida …” {http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RMS_Titanic}

    The ship sunk in 1912, and the three wealthy men listed above all died in the disaster; then the Federal Reserve was set up in 1913. {http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_reserve} This explains why the iceberg warnings were ignored, and it also explains the numerous other strange mysteries surrounding this major disaster.

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    R36. Aphrodite Jones and Thomas Mesereau (MJ Conspiracy)
    {http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIwehjDPOYU}

    This YouTube video was the redirect for 12-8-09. Before going into the subject of the video, let me point out that this day was in the middle of part 7 on NWO conspiracies (R29 – R42); and the biggest of all, is the 911 conspiracy. And in fact, just one day before (on 12-7-09), the TIAI redirect had a list of conspiracies—including “911”, etc (see R35).

    Well, on 12-8-09 TMZ had—not one or two, but six different articles with “911” in the article heading {[url]http://www.tmz.com/2009/12/08/tiger-woods-mother-in-law-the-911-call/; [/url][url]http://www.tmz.com/2009/12/08/latest-hasselhoff-911-tape/; [/url][url]http://www.tmz.com/2009/12/08/tiger-woods-mother-in-laws-911-elin-nordegren-barbro-holmberg/; [/url][url]http://www.tmz.com/2009/12/08/tiger-woods-911-call-dispatch-log/; [/url][url]http://www.tmz.com/2009/12/08/rescue-call-to-tiger-woods-block-911-elin-nordegren/; and [/url]http://www.tmz.com/2009/12/08/brittany-murphy-husband-911-call/%7d}! This timing should make it obvious that TIAI was not copying TMZ. Was it yet another coincidence? Well, how often does TMZ have even one article with “911” in the heading? Check it out for yourself.

    Now back to the “MJ Conspiracy” book and video. Quite obviously, there was a conspiracy against MJ, even though it wasn’t a murder conspiracy. And the testimony from Aphrodite shows that people involved in a conspiracy may not even know it themselves (only the upper levels understand). And even after she recognized the conspiracy, it seems that she only saw media and money as the source of the conspiracy—not the NWO powers controlling the media.

    The conspiracy did succeed to the extent of damaging MJ’s reputation; but it did not succeed to the extent of the court finding him guilty. At the end of the video clip, Aphrodite asked a very appropriate question: “Why are we still crucifying this man? He was found not guilty.”

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    R37. Daniel and the Lion’s Den
    { http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Daniel%206:22&version=NLT }

    “My God sent his angel to shut the lions’ mouths so that they would not hurt me, for I have been found innocent in his sight. And I have not wronged you, Your Majesty.” (Daniel 6:22, NLT).

    As always, the context of the verse is important. In this case, it is the very well known story of Daniel and the lion’s den. High officials in the kingdom hated Daniel, and conspired to get rid of him; but God overruled, saved Daniel’s life, and vindicated his character. I’m sure that you can see the parallel here, with the conspiracy against MJ. God thwarted the plans of MJ’s enemies, and he was found not guilty on all charges.

    Now let’s stop and think here for a minute. These NWO leaders are capable of sinking a whole ship, and killing over 1,500 people on it, just to get rid of a few people. They brought down the trade towers, which killed masses of people; they killed the US President (JFK), as well as his son—and the list goes on.

    Then don’t you think they are capable of taking MJ out? So why didn’t they succeed in killing MJ before 2009? In fact, why didn’t they succeed in the child molestation charges? There is a very simple answer: as with Daniel, God shut the mouths of the lions, and thwarted the conspiracies of the government officials.

    Why did God protect MJ, and not JFK, MLK, etc? Perhaps only God understands that fully; but it could well be that God has a special plan for MJ, in the final battle against the NWO. Maybe God has a mission for MJ, and has protected him from his enemies “for such a time as this” (Esther 4:14).

    Then if God can protect MJ in 1993, and in 2005, and clear up to 6-25-09: then don’t you think that God can still protect him after 6-25-09? In fact, don’t you think that God could protect his life ON 6-25-09??? Then why do we keep being faithless, and thinking that he really died?

    If God wants to keep MJ alive, or you, or anyone else: not all the weapons in the whole world can kill. Just like Daniel in the lion’s den: “My God sent his angel to shut the lions’ mouths so that they would not hurt me …”

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    R38. “People Should Not Be Afraid of Their Governments. …”
    { http://rlv.zcache.com/people_should_not_be_afraid_of_their_government_bumper_sticker-p128385723565042693trl0_400.jpg }

    The full quote says: “People should not be afraid of their governments. Governments should be afraid of their people.” As most already know, this is a quote from the “V for Vendetta” film. This clue was quite obvious, and didn’t need any deep investigation. Yet this had more than one reason, as usual.

    Especially after the section on the Kennedys, people were saying that TIAI was trying to create fear in order to control people. It is sad that people try to find an evil motive in everything; yet with the condition of society, there is a great deal of evil out there—so it is understandable. So this redirect was given to help people see that TIAI was not trying to create fear in the people; if anything, it is intended to create fear in the corrupt leaders committing these crimes.

    Another reason for this redirect, was that it was a picture of a bumper sticker. If anyone found the source of the picture, they also found where to buy the bumper stickers { http://www.zazzle.com/people_should_not_be_afraid_of_their_government_bumper_sticker-128385723565042693 }. Put them on your car, and help spread the message (I have no affiliation with Zazzle, and I don’t make a single penny from these sales; I just want to promote the message).

    The Bible says: “There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear … He that feareth is not made perfect in love.” (1 John 4:18; see Revelation 2:10). So don’t be afraid to join Michael’s Army of L.O.V.E. (see R39, next).

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    R39. Michael’s Army of L.O.V.E.
    { http://www.mtv.com/photos/michael-jacksons-this-is-it-trailer-frames/1621244/4251494/photo.jhtml }

    This clue was one of the still shots, from the TII trailer; specifically, an army of soldiers, with an “M” in the center of the background (Michael’s army). Take a look at a close up picture of the soldiers, and you will see that they are not carrying guns or weapons { http://www.mtv.com/photos/michael-jacksons-this-is-it-trailer-frames/1621244/4251493/photo.jhtml }. This is because it’s an Army of L.O.V.E., not an army of violence.

    These soldiers in the TII movie were filmed as part of the song “They Don’t Really Care About Us”. This army needs to stand up against the NWO corruption, the very ones that MJ is singing about—who don’t really care about us, but kill thousands of their own citizens to forward their evil agenda.

    Actually, all four of the film segments in TII are directly related to the hoax and its purpose. Smooth Criminal: about the hoaxed death. Thriller: about the MJ “resurrection”. Earth Song: butterflies (represent re-birth), and healing the world (environment, etc). The army, just discussed above. Wow! Yet another amazing coincidence!! Or perhaps, was this planned??

    Those in the old MJHD forum will remember that I tried hard, more than once, to rally an Army of L.O.V.E. (though at the time, I did not go into the conspiracy aspect); but I got only about a hundred people to post their support prior to the release of the movie. So let’s try again; this time, we can do better. How about several hundred, or several thousand—maybe more than ten thousand! But if we can only come up with a hundred again, then don’t be too surprised if MJ doesn’t come back.

    Many people will refuse to listen, yes; but for those who are open-minded, just ask them to go to ThisIsAlsoIt.com, and read TIAI Revealed. Especially if they are MJ fans, remind them that MJ himself said: “Prejudice is ignorance”.




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    R40. “The Whole Armor of God”
    { http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ephesians%206:12-13&version=KJ21 }

    “For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world [NWO powers], against spiritual wickedness in high places. Therefore, take unto you the whole armor of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day and, having done all, to stand.” (Ephesians 6:12,13; 21st Century KJV).

    If we want to be warriors in Michael’s Army of L.O.V.E., we need to be wearing the “whole armor”—then and only then will we be able to stand against the NWO powers, etc. Does this mean that we should take up guns and bombs, and only add more strife and bloodshed in this world that needs peace? No! The Bible says that “the weapons of our warfare are not carnal [not physical weapons]” (2 Corinthians 10:4).

    Then what is the armor, which we need to have? The context of the above verse in Ephesians gives the answer (verses 13-18): “Therefore, take unto you the whole armor of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day and, having done all, to stand. Stand therefore, having your loins girded about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness, and your feet shod with the preparation of the Gospel of peace. Above all, take the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked. And take the helmet of salvation and the sword of the Spirit, which is the Word of God, praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints.”

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    Finally, some have asked what does the “also” refer to in TIAI? In addition to the music and entertainment in TII: TIAI is the wake-up call message, to see the NWO for what it is—and join the Army of L.O.V.E. to help heal the world, etc.
  • You know! I have been thinking about this "Ark of the covenant clue" for nearly a year now, and I have scratched my head many, many times... but nothing I found, read about made me feel that "I got it".

    This morning however, I got an idea that the clue may not be so much about the ark of the covenant itself but more about what the ark may be associated with... so here are my thoughts:

    As Sarahli and others pointed out, the Ark of the Covenant could well be associated with the Steven Spielberg film the raiders of the lost Ark.



    Good Job!

    You'd be surprised How close to the TRUTH movies really are.
    I think this was A huge Clue from TS when it was mentioned in the updates about The ARK.

    I am glad you went there and got this info, so now we are right back to Knights Templar and now onto the Vatican, I knew we would get there soon enough. (Remember the words surrounding my name?) Freaky.

    We're on the Raiders Of the Lost ARK Adventure now, lol

    Peace
    Comparison...
    The Staff of Ra, meanwhile, is the key to finding the Well of Souls, in which the Ark is buried.

    Revelation 11 (Amplified Bible)
    Revelation 11
    1 A REED [as a measuring rod] was then given to me, [shaped] like a staff, and I was told: Rise up and measure the sanctuary of God and the altar [of incense], and [number] those who worship there.


    Wow ! Great comparison indeed. So we also have to look for the Staff of Ra ! <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: -->

    According to Theraider.net (http://www.theraider.net/features/articles/demille.php Steven Spielberg was heavily influenced by Producer/director Cecil DeMille for important scenes in the film and Cecil DeMille was a "disciple" of PT Barnum.

    (A bit of background on Cecil DeMille: Prototypical Hollywood producer/director Cecil B. DeMille was a living example of one who believed implicitly in P. T. Barnum's most famous axiom, "There's one born every minute." DeMille was one of the few early silent directors who was able to cross over into the sound era. He specialized in large-scale epics, often loosely based on the Bible, liberally peppered with sex. Two of his earlier talkies, Cleopatra (1934), and 1932's Sign of the Cross represent the height of his work, in my opinion. As DeMille aged, he began to make bigger and more grandiose versions of his earlier films. One such work was The Ten Commandments, made as a silent film in 1923 and again as a talkie in 1956.The greatest Show on Earth was done in 1952.)

    This gives us a clear association between the Ark of the Covenant story published on the 25th June 2009 and PT Barnum; and brings us full circle to the very start of the Greatest Show on Earth (The Greatest Showman on Earth faking his Death) - remember the Barnum elephants in the street on the day of the memorial?

    This is simply amazing!

    With L.O.V.E


    Thanks for contributing...

    I am quoting THE MOST IMPORTANT PART from the info you provided.

    DeMille was one of the few early silent directors who was able to cross over into the sound era.

    <!-- s:ugeek: -->:ugeek:<!-- s:ugeek: --> He specialized in large-scale epics, often loosely based on the "Bible", liberally peppered with sex. <!-- s:ugeek: -->:ugeek:<!-- s:ugeek: -->"

    Two of his earlier talkies, Cleopatra (1934), and 1932's Sign of the Cross represent the height of his work, in my opinion. As DeMille aged, he began to make bigger and more grandiose versions of his earlier films.

    <!-- s:ugeek: -->:ugeek:<!-- s:ugeek: --> One such work was "The Ten Commandments", made as a silent film in 1923 and again as a talkie in 1956. <!-- s:ugeek: -->:ugeek:<!-- s:ugeek: -->

    This IS in my opinion THE OBJECTIVE.
    When basing where we are looking for info in relation to The ARK of The Convenant.
    Peace

    Just Curious...Have you read any of what we wrote earlier in the thread?

    Hello! Im_convincedmjalive, My pleasure.

    Yes! I have read all the good infos on this thread and I was very impressed by the ideas and depth of the thinking. Loved it but did not feel that I had any inspirational thoughts to contribute at the time. The Ark of the Covenant is a very rich and absorbing topic, and one that needs an open mind! (I absolutely agree with you Sarahli)

    My morning thoughts (Those that follows my double espresso!) got me to look at it a bit differently, through associations; Michael got associated with the Ark of the Covenant in the the television show South Park in a 2004 episode - Season 8 Episode 7 - titled "The Jeffersons" and I thought that the entertainment angle was a worthwhile one to explore:
    The raiders of the lost ark to Steven Spielberg to the Liberian Girl and to C DeMille. C DeMille to the Greatest Show on Earth (PT Barnum) and the 10 Commandments.

    I am sure we are getting closer - If the 25th June 2009 announcement was not a coincidence, was it then real? <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
    R47. Ark of the Covenant
    {http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ark_of_the_Covenant}

    The Ark of the Covenant? What in the world does that have to do with MJ? Is there some connection with the Raiders of the Lost Ark? Perhaps. But those who read the Wiki article carefully noticed a very interesting date: “On 25 June 2009, the patriarch of the Orthodox Church of Ethiopia, Abuna Paulos, said he would announce to the world the next day the unveiling of the Ark of the Covenant …” {http://weeklyworldnews.com/headlines/9322/ark-of-the-covenant-revealed/; <!-- m -->http://www.ethiopianreview.com/content/ ... fter-all/;<!-- m --> and <!-- m -->http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/ar ... ead=149823<!-- m -->}

    The unveiling did not actually occur. But why the amazing date of 6-25-09, was this yet another strange coincidence? This of course was the exact same day that the MJ “death” was

    With L.O.V.E


    Yes Very Much Real.

    <!-- m -->http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/ar ... ead=149782<!-- m -->

    Everything is RELEVANT, even what You contributed.

    Peace
  • <!-- m -->http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/ar ... ead=149601<!-- m -->

    <!-- m -->http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/ar ... ead=149649<!-- m -->
    There is more INFO on The Unveiling Of The ARK.

    The other link above, (In My other post) You have to scroll to the bottom of the page to get the dirty secrets, lol

    Peace
  • "Raiders of the Lost Ark"

    Plot

    In 1936, treasure hunter/archaeologist Indiana Jones braves an ancient temple in the Peruvian jungle filled with booby traps to retrieve a Golden Idol. Upon escaping the temple, Indiana is confronted by rival archaeologist René Belloq and the indigenous Hovitos people. Surrounded and outnumbered, Indiana is forced to surrender the idol to Belloq, and flees from a jungle chase aboard a waiting seaplane.

    Shortly after returning to the college in the United States where he teaches archeology, Indiana is interviewed by two Army intelligence agents. They inform him that the Nazis, in their quest for occult power, are searching for his old mentor, Abner Ravenwood, who is in possession of the headpiece of an artifact called the Staff of Ra and is the leading expert on the ancient Egyptian city of Tanis. Indiana deduces that the Nazis are searching for the Ark of the Covenant, the biblical chest built by the Israelites to contain the fragments of the Ten Commandments. The Staff of Ra, meanwhile, is the key to finding the Well of Souls, in which the Ark is buried. The agents subsequently authorize Indiana to recover the Ark with the promise of displaying it in a museum. Indiana travels to a tavern in Nepal, only to find that Ravenwood has died and that the headpiece is in the possession of his daughter and Indiana's embittered former lover, Marion. The tavern is suddenly raided by a group of thugs commanded by Nazi agent Major Toht. The tavern is burned down in the ensuing fight, during which Toht burns his hand on the searing hot headpiece as he tries to grab it. Indiana and Marion escape with the headpiece, with Marion declaring she will accompany Indiana in his search for the Ark so he can repay his debt.

    They travel to Cairo where they learn from Sallah, Indiana's friend and a skilled digger, that the Nazis are currently digging for the Well of Souls with the aid of Belloq and a replica of the headpiece modeled after the scar on Toht's hand. In a bazaar, Nazi operatives kidnap Marion and fake her death in front of Indiana, strengthening his resolve to find the Ark. While deciphering the markings on the headpiece, Indiana and Sallah realize that the Nazis have miscalculated the location of the Well of Souls. Using this to their advantage, they infiltrate the Nazi dig and use the Staff of Ra to correctly determine the location and uncover the Well of Souls, which is filled with venomous snakes. After Indiana obtains the Ark, Belloq and the Nazis arrive to take it for themselves. They proceed to toss Marion, who is alive, down into the well with Indiana and seal them both in. However, they manage to navigate the underground temple and escape. After a grueling fist fight with a German mechanic, blowing up a flying wing ready to ship the Ark to Germany, and chasing down a convoy of trucks, Indiana manages to take back the Ark before it can be shipped to Berlin.

    Indiana and Marion leave Cairo to escort the Ark to England on board a tramp steamer. The next morning, their boat is boarded by the Nazis who once again steal the Ark and kidnap Marion. Indiana stows away on the U-boat and follows them to an isolated island where Belloq plans to test the power of the Ark before presenting it to Adolf Hitler. Indiana reveals himself and threatens to destroy the Ark with a rocket launcher, but Belloq calls his bluff.

    Indiana surrenders and is tied to a post with Marion as Belloq performs a ceremonial opening of the Ark, which appears to contain nothing but sand. Suddenly, spirits emerge from the Ark; aware of the supernatural danger of looking at the opened Ark, Indiana warns Marion to close her eyes. The apparitions suddenly morph into demonic creatures, and lightning bolts begin flying out of the ark, gruesomely killing the Nazis. The fires rise into the sky, then fall back down to Earth and the Ark closes with a crack of thunder.

    Back in Washington, D.C.
    , the Army intelligence agents tell a suspicious Indiana that the Ark "is someplace safe" to be studied by "top men". In reality, the Ark is sealed in a wooden crate labeled "top secret" and stored in a giant government warehouse filled with countless similar crates.
    <!-- m -->http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raiders_of_the_Lost_Ark<!-- m -->

    So in the movie the Ark is in Washington DC. It's just a movie I know <!-- s8-) -->8-)<!-- s8-) -->
    DOTS of TMZ Article was also on The ARK and this movie came up.
    Joe Jackson Linked to Unauthorized MJ Memorial
    Posted Jun 24th 2010 8:34 AM by TMZ Staff

    The Michael Jackson estate and others have been asking ... who's behind an unauthorized MJ memorial set
    to go down Saturday night at the Beverly Hilton -- now, there's a smoking gun pointed at Joe Jackson.

    0624-joe-mj-ex-getty.jpg

    As we previously reported, the bash is being thrown by a website called VoicePlate.com -- but no one could
    identify the person responsible for pulling the strings. It's also unclear who convinced Katherine Jackson to
    record that awkward, scripted promotional video for the tribute.

    But now -- a clue ... and it all has to do with the featured entertainment at the MJ tribute...a band called the Chi-Lites -- they had a couple of hits in the '70s, including "Oh Girl" and "Have You Seen Her."

    If you recall, just days after MJ died ... Joe Jackson shamelessly held a news conference to introduce his new business partner, Marshall Thompson ... a member of the Chi-Lites.

    Think it's coincidence that the band got a brand new gig ... at an MJ event? Didn't think so.

    The article posting date:
    Jun 24th 2010 8:34 AM
    6 + 2 + 4 + 2 + 1 + 8 + 3 + 4 = 30
    3 - Trinity, Union of Divine plus Human, Manifestation, Positive, Negative and Neutral, Expression, Subconscious Mind/Imagination, Creative, Optimistic, Enthusiasm, Expressive, Charming, Humor, Fun, Attractive, Friendly.
    http://www.numberquest.com/knowledge_number_meaning_3.php

    hits in the '70s- The Number 7

    Chi- Lites is bolded in the article.

    Chi - is the 22nd letter of the Greek alphabet.
    Chi or X is often used to abbreviate the name Christ, as in the holiday Christmas (Xmas). When fused within a single typespace with the Greek letter Rho, it is called the Chi-Rho, often displayed on the labarum, and used to represent the person of Jesus Christ.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chi_%28letter%29

    Chi-Rho compared to Image on the stage floor from the movie TII (TII CD Booklet Image

    Chi-Rhocompare.jpg

    Lites or Lights
    1 a : something that makes vision possible
    5 a : spiritual illumination b : inner light c : enlightenment d : truth
    8 : something that enlightens or informs
    http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/light

    JJLUMJM

    JJL - Joyful Jubilant Learning
    Aloha and welcome to Joyful Jubilant Learning
    by Rosa Say on February 13, 2010

    Ua ola loko ‘ao i ke aloha; Aloha provides life and learning from within.

    This site was a learning project born from the Aloha of the Ho‘ohana Community of Talking Story with Say Leadership Coaching in 2006. It was published as a group blog dedicated to global web-based tertiary learning, and guided by our universal values, articulated within these pages with the Hawaiian names of

    * Aloha —unconditional love and acceptance of humanity
    * ‘Ike loa —the seeking of wisdom through lifelong learning. When coupled with Aloha there is an emphasis on learning from other people
    * Kakou —inclusiveness as a “language of we” in communication, and to foster open-mindedness in our collaborative efforts
    * Ho‘ohana —an ever-present intention to apply our learning to the work we are personally inspired by and committed to
    * Hau‘oli‘oli —joy, wonder and delight

    We learn beginnings, and we learn endings
    Ho‘omau —How can we mau, always persist[/b], and ho‘o, make it happen, so that the good created here becomes long-lasting, and will encourage learning to continue?

    Mahalo nui loa, thank you for reading, and for being a Joyful Learner. That ‘being’ is the way you honor your own Aloha Spirit, for remember: Ua ola loko ‘ao i ke aloha; Aloha provides life and learning from within.
    http://joyfuljubilantlearning.com/

    UM - User Modeling
    User modeling is a sub-area of human–computer interaction, in which the researcher / designer develops cognitive models of human users, including modeling of their skills and declarative knowledge. User models can predict human error and learning time, and can thus serve as a cheaper alternative to user testing. User models can guide user interface designers to minimize error rates and learning time. Sub-areas: student modeling.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_modeling

    Student Modeling - Intelligent Tutoring System
    An intelligent tutoring system is any computer system that provides direct customized instruction or feedback to students, i.e. without the intervention of human beings, whilst performing a task. Thus, ITS implements the theory of learning by doing. An ITS may employ a range of different technologies. However, usually such systems are more narrowly conceived of as artificial intelligence systems, more specifically expert systems made to simulate aspects of a human tutor. Intelligent Tutor Systems have been around since the late 1970s, but increased in popularity in the 1990s.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligent_tutoring_system

    So we are the students receiving our instruction VIA the computers we use and through the Internet, connecting on forums etc.

    JM - Jedi Master (Little bit of humour anyone <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: --> )
    The Jedi are characters in the Star Wars universe and the series' main protagonists. They use a quasi-telekinetic power, known as the Force, and weapons, known as lightsabers, which emit a controlled energy flow in the shape of a sword, to serve and protect their Republic and the whole galaxy from conflict or government instability. They sometimes moderate peace negotiations between planets and, if necessary, use their formidable fighting skills to quickly end an unrest. The Jedi are led by a Council of 12 members consisting of the most powerful and wise members of the order. The Jedi are bound to a code of morality and justice and are trained in the use of the light side of the force but not the Dark side.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jedi

    He sees his role as similar to that of a Jedi Master. Teacher and protector, serving us.

    [youtube:33wqoed7]

    TABITD

    TAB - Tabernacle
    The Tabernacle according to the Hebrew Torah/Old Testament, was the portable dwelling place for the divine presence from the time of the Exodus from Egypt through the conquering of the land of Canaan. Built to specifications revealed by God (Yahweh) to Moses at Mount Sinai, it accompanied the Israelites on their wanderings in the wilderness and their conquest of the Promised Land, and was eventually placed in the First Temple in Jerusalem, which superseded it as the dwelling-place of God among the Israelites. It is not mentioned after the destruction of Jerusalem by the Babylonians.

    The fullest description of the Tabernacle describes an inner shrine named Kodesh Hakodashim (Holy of Holies) housing the Ark of the Covenant and an outer chamber (Holy Place), with a golden lampstand, table for showbread, and altar of incense. This description is generally identified as part of the Priestly source, written in the 6th or 5th century BC. Many scholars contend that it is of a far later date than Moses, and that the description reflects the structure of the Temple of Solomon, while some hold that the description derives from memories of a real pre-monarchic shrine, perhaps the sanctuary at Shiloh. According to the 19th century "Higher Criticism" school of Julius Wellhausen, an earlier, pre-exilic source describes the Tabernacle as a simple tent-sanctuary.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tabernacle

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    COVENANT - An agreement between God and his people in which God makes certain promises and requires certain behavior from them in return
    http://wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn?s=covenant

    The Ark of the Covenant
    The Ark of the Covenant is a vessel described in the Bible as containing the Tablets of Stone on which the Ten Commandments were inscribed, along with Aaron's rod and manna. According to the Pentateuch, the Ark was built at the command of God, in accord with Moses' prophetic vision on Mount Sinai (Exodus 25:10-16). God was said to have communicated with Moses "from between the two cherubim" on the Ark's cover (Exodus 25:22). The Ark and its sanctuary were considered "the beauty of Israel" (Lamentations 2:1). Rashi and some Midrashim suggest that there were two arks - a temporary one made by Moses himself, and a later one constructed by Bezalel.

    Biblical account relates that during the Israelites' exodus from Egypt, the Ark was carried by the priests some 2,000 cubits, or 1,000 m; 3,400 ft (Numbers 35:5; Joshua 4:5) in advance of the people and their army, or host (Num. 4:5-6; 10:33-36; Psalms 68:1; 132:8). When the Ark was borne by priests into the bed of the Jordan, water in the river separated, opening a pathway for the entire host to pass through (Josh. 3:15-16; 4:7-18). The city of Jericho was taken with no more than a shout after the Ark of Covenant was paraded for seven days around its wall by seven priests sounding seven trumpets of rams' horns (Josh. 6:4-20). When carried, the Ark was always wrapped in a veil, in tachash skins (the identity of this animal is uncertain), and a blue cloth, and was carefully concealed, even from the eyes of the Cohanim who carried it.
    Over time, the accounts of the Ark have gathered a number of references in popular culture.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ark_of_the_Covenant_in_popular_culture

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    ITD - Inception To Date
    Inception
    - A an event that is a beginning; a first part or stage of subsequent events; origin
    http://wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn?s=inception

    To Date - Prior to the present time
    http://wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn?s=to%20date

    This has all been part of the plan since the beginning up until the present time.

    I also found a movie entitled Inception.
    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1375666/

    Plot Summary for Inception (2010)
    Dom Cobb (Leonardo DiCaprio) is a skilled thief, the absolute best in the dangerous art of extraction, stealing valuable secrets from deep within the subconscious during the dream state, when the mind is at its most vulnerable. Cobb's rare ability has made him a coveted player in this treacherous new world of corporate espionage, but it has also made him an international fugitive and cost him everything he has ever loved. Now Cobb is being offered a chance at redemption. One last job could give him his life back but only if he can accomplish the impossible-inception. Instead of the perfect heist, Cobb and his team of specialists have to pull off the reverse: their task is not to steal an idea but to plant one. If they succeed, it could be the perfect crime. But no amount of careful planning or expertise can prepare the team for the dangerous enemy that seems to predict their every move. An enemy that only Cobb could have seen coming. Written by Warner Bros. Pictures

    Warner Bros. TMZ parent company and connected to MJ through the Saudi Prince his partner in Kingdom Entertainmnet.

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    I have put all the articles I have deciphered in a single thread on the other forum. The first articles I did not completely decipher as they were before TS said that the title was also DOTS (acronyms). I have not gone back and looked at them. I also have not tried to decipher every single article in about Michael on TMZ.
    http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxdeath.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=68&t=9118
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    Quotes Taken From Above Blog:
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    Ark of the Covenant Being Unveiled?

    Who is boasting, exactly? As much is to be expected. Such things are hardly new to God. Another site penned an even more churlish put-down since I began writing this, noting:

    Another Worldnut Daily exclusive… It’s like an Elvis commemorative plate from the Franklin Mint, only a certain amount are made…. 3000 year old manna? That stuff has a longer shelflife than a Twinkie.

    If they had any idea what they are (probably) dealing with, they would be on their knees. That site purports to be driven by science; but since science has already proven the dates for the Hebraic structures on Tana Qirqos Island, it’s hard to tell how science (as opposed to prejudice) is informing his blanket dismissal of it.

    Another mocker, sitting on the throne of science rather than exploring the science. (Science and scientists used to be even-handed… I think… long ago.)

    But since he brought it up, it’s interesting that they should mention Elvis. Of all the hypothetical headline-dominating stories you might have been able to imagine say, on Wednesday, what would have had enough ‘oompf’ to punch through even the economy, North Korea and Iran? The untimely death of MJ. A blind world is blinded further still to the stories that will really rock the world and not just ‘beat it’.

    As I’ve talked to friends about this, one of the most common questions I get is, “Why haven’t we heard about this before?” And, from several commenters here, “When is this going to ‘break’?” To which my response is: What do you expect from the world? Or to put it another way: Why would you imagine that God would reveal himself on the front page of the New York Times? Or that they’d take the story, even if He walked into the newsroom and showed them the nail scars in his hands and feet? They still wouldn’t write it, even then.

    It’s the same dilemma the disciples faced with Jesus himself. Fear of being accused of credulity mixed in them with a deep inner sense that they could not explain of the utter credibility of what they were seeing and hearing. The small signs the world mocks; the still, small voice that comes through in unexpected ways and says, quiet clearly: it’s true; stay the course; keep seeking Me and I will show you and guide you though the whole world goes mad. God doesn’t work the way the world expects him to. Never has. Though he will, as we read in Isaiah 45:23

    “By myself I have sworn [says the Lord]; from my mouth has gone out in righteousness a word that shall not return: ‘To me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear allegiance.’“

    Paul reiterates it in Romans 14:11. We are told in so many places in scripture that God has a different set of lenses for looking at things… that God’s ways are not man’s ways.


    @Serenity,

    Thank You...

    I was hoping you would show up with THE DOTS of TMZ, lol

    I have Noticed TMZ titles (Not Dots but, Titles themselves), even words inside the stories directly stating things from the Bible.

    One was about The Jackson Children calling Arnie Klien.. Judas, and some other ones like Sodom and Gamorah<(spelling?), etc.

    Thanks again for coming through.

    Peace
  • MJonmindMJonmind Posts: 7,290
    Holy Moly!!!! Have you been digging around in those rabbit holes! IMO you get a better understanding of the Holy Bible/ Scriptures, from annalyzing the hundreds of movies that touch on various aspects, and exploring thinkers, historians, etc. from the internet. It's called thinking outside the box, or the walls of the church, where you are told what you must think and believe, or else.

    I personally believe there is an alien element involved in what has been happening in our history this last 5 or 6 thousand years, and they will also play an important part in the end time scenario, Revelations. Because Revelation is still future, I believe God has the perogative to make it go any way he chooses. Kinda like those books where you choose which way you want the ending to go, just to make it more interesting. In one of your articles on the Blue Beam project (which I read about a few years back) it said NWO forces would strive to fulfill the prophecy in their own way, and in that sense BE the ACTUAL fulfillment of end time Scripture. (Remember Back to the Future, the movie and being able to change events by going forward or backward in time, and God is outside time?) As far as an alien invasion being something that would unite all humans/countries under one leader, remember the movie Independance Day, and of course USA were the ones hailed as the hero nation.

    I agree with you that this Templar blood-line, through the Royalties, etc. is lining up to the Anti-Christ or world leader that will seem to be able to implement world peace. But it will be counterfeit, with lying signs and wonders. The true One will unite all the lost tribes of the nation of Israel and bring them home to Israel, which has not happened yet, if you read ALL of the OT prophet books. I don't know if you have read about Illuminati leaders cooperating with reptilian forces to gain the extreme technology we have obtained this last 50 years. That's a deep scary rabbit hole. I believe there are evil and good "alien" forces, all under the authority of God, or course, on an inter-galatic scale. Way beyond my speck of a brain to grasp.

    Now if this doesn't sound alien, then I don't know what, in Revelation 9:

    "The fifth angel sounded, and I saw a star fall from heaven unto the earth: and to him was given the key of the bottomless pit. And he opened the bottomless pit; and there arose a smoke out of the pit, as the smoke of a great furnace; and the sun and the air were darkened by reason of the smoke of the pit. And there came out of the smoke locusts upon the earth: and unto them was given power, as the scorpions of the earth have power. And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but only those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads. And to them it was given that they should not kill them, but that they should be tormented five months: and their torment [was] as the torment of a scorpion, when he striketh a man. And in those days shall men seek death, and shall not find it; and shall desire to die, and death shall flee from them.

    And the shapes of the locusts [were] like unto horses prepared unto battle; and on their heads [were] as it were crowns like gold, and their faces [were] as the faces of men. And they had hair as the hair of women, and their teeth were as [the teeth] of lions. And they had breastplates, as it were breastplates of iron; and the sound of their wings [was] as the sound of chariots of many horses running to battle. And they had tails like unto scorpions, and there were stings in their tails: and their power [was] to hurt men five months. And they had a king over them, [which is] the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue [is] Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath [his] name Apollyon. One woe is past; [and], behold, there come two woes. And the sixth angel sounded, and I heard a voice from the four horns of the golden altar which is before God, Saying to the sixth angel which had the trumpet, Loose the four angels which are bound in the great river Euphrates.

    And the four angels were loosed, which were prepared for an hour, and a day, and a month, and a year, for to slay the third part of men. And the number of the army of the horsemen [were] two hundred thousand thousand: and I heard the number of them. And thus I saw the horses in the vision, and them that sat on them, having breastplates of fire, and of jacinth, and brimstone: and the heads of the horses [were] as the heads of lions; and out of their mouths issued fire and smoke and brimstone. By these three was the third part of men killed, by the fire, and by the smoke, and by the brimstone, which issued out of their mouths. For their power is in their mouth, and in their tails: for their tails [were] like unto serpents, and had heads, and with them they do hurt. And the rest of the men which were not killed by these plagues yet repented not of the works of their hands, that they should not worship devils, and idols of gold, and silver, and brass, and stone, and of wood: which neither can see, nor hear, nor walk: Neither repented they of their murders, nor of their sorceries, nor of their fornication, nor of their thefts. "

    I believe with all my heart that many of the supernatural elements in the Bible were related to UFO's, (God is still the Creator and supreme power guiding) and UFO's will play an important part in our future. I will give you a smattering of verses that are only to do with Jesus' ascention and our being caught up. "Beam me up, Scotty". I don't know if any of you have seen youtube clips of satelite images of UFO's by the hundreds that were gathered around this long marker bar high in the atmosphere, and some were absolutely gigantic, and seemed to come in and out of cloaking. Quite shocking that we are being watched, and have been for a long time. Anyway these are some verses--just try to do the mental flip that clouds are UFO's, since they didn't have that word back then. Might have looked something like the MJair blimp.cloud received him out of their sight. And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel; Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.

    Matthew 24:30-31
    And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather (beam up) together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

    1 Thessalonians 4:16-17
    For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive [and] remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

    Speaking of being snatched up - is also Enoch, Elijah, Ezekiel, and Philip. Here's the interesting verses about Philip:

    Acts 8:38-40
    And he commanded the chariot to stand still: and they went down both into the water, both Philip and the eunuch; and he baptized him. And when they were come up out of the water, the Spirit of the Lord caught away Philip, that the eunuch saw him no more: and he went on his way rejoicing. But Philip was found at Azotus (my NASV has Philip found himself at Azotus): and passing through he preached in all the cities, till he came to Caesarea.

    I know Serenitys_Dream posted a while back a bunch of early centuries Christian art work with UFO's in the background. Very mysterious and begs more looking into. I'm not saying that miracles are not a part of it all, but when we observe most strange mysteries, they after analysis usually have a scientific basis to them. I think the Bible is a combination of miraculous, symbolical/metaphorical, and scientifically based information.

    Sorry this is so long. It's hard to put thoughts down that make any kind of sense in short pieces.
  • MJonmindMJonmind Posts: 7,290
    Okay now I'm half joking, and going way out on a limb here, oh well, what the heck.

    Maybe Michael was beamed up temporarily into some kind of a spaceship, that looked like the one on Scream, or Moonwalker, or MJair blimp. Remember the crypt where MJ is supposedly buried has the stain-glass art just above it, depicting the Ascention of Jesus!! Supervision had a vision of MJ supposedly I think in some kind of gravity-less state, like clips on Scream where he and Janet float around. They could do that just a few miles up. Well, I'm not too serious, but I just like exploring crazy ideas. Sometimes I think to myself that the whole MJ hoax is just a mirage, and I'm completely deluded, he's dead, or he's alive and nothing more will come of it. So then I've lost nothing if I've completely mistaken in all my zany theories. Kay sera sera, what will be-- will be. But I'll have had a fun adventure! Hope you'll all forgive me... I'm just trying to put all the pieces together like every one here.
  • Okay now I'm half joking, and going way out on a limb here, oh well, what the heck.

    Maybe Michael was beamed up temporarily into some kind of a spaceship, that looked like the one on Scream, or Moonwalker, or MJair blimp. Remember the crypt where MJ is supposedly buried has the stain-glass art just above it, depicting the Ascention of Jesus!! Supervision had a vision of MJ supposedly I think in some kind of gravity-less state, like clips on Scream where he and Janet float around. They could do that just a few miles up. Well, I'm not too serious, but I just like exploring crazy ideas. Sometimes I think to myself that the whole MJ hoax is just a mirage, and I'm completely deluded, he's dead, or he's alive and nothing more will come of it. So then I've lost nothing if I've completely mistaken in all my zany theories. Kay sera sera, what will be-- will be. But I'll have had a fun adventure! Hope you'll all forgive me... I'm just trying to put all the pieces together like every one here.

    MJonmind - Interesting thoughts! I do at time as well wonder at which level this hoax is being played, let me explain what I mean: First, it is as if somebody/something reluctantly drove me to be part of this "hoax" through bombarding me with messages (11:11, 9:11, 12:21 - various dreams and visions...etc) when I was very happy with my busy professional and social life and never really gave Michael much attention, so why now? What is really driving all of this? Here are my thoughts on the possible level this hoax could be played at, and how this impact our discussion on the Ark of the Covenant:

    1. The terrestrial level: Michael wanted to do something never before, the greatest of all greatest show on Earth and created the hoax, an alternative reality game that will move the meaning a greatness to a next level and give him an audience like nobody ever had before...Like minded individuals are subconsciously being pulled together to help make it a success. In relation to the "Ark of the Covenant" discussion on this thread this would lead to the type of clues I discussed in earlier posts (e.g. Films/Directors and association with the hoax) and the message on the unveiling issued on the 25th June, possibly being a hoax message to fit with MJ Hoax.

    2. The Terrestrial level + Message: Same as above with the desire to use this global reach to motivate people to unite and create a better world. The 10 Commandments possibly become an integral part of the "Ark of the Covenant" "clue" as may other key messages denouncing government corruptions...etc.

    3. The Planetary level: We are here looking at greater forces, whether "God" or Aliens or else, and absolutely everything is possible, whether we have reached the time for the new earth(Revelation 21:1 ) or are facing different type of "surreal" challenges, I do not know. If the hoax is "played" at this level, well! this is no "game" anymore, this is real and we better hurry-up and get our act together. In relation to the "Ark of the Covenant" discussion, we are here probably looking at very real clues leading to its unveiling or the truth about its real meaning... and the events surrounding the 25th June 2009.

    I trust this makes sense.

    With L.O.V.E
  • MJonmindMJonmind Posts: 7,290
    Maybe the real ark was already beamed up on a ship in our atmosphere, and ALL the ones on earth are fakes, YNK. There's supposed to be 3 heavens, and the Bible doesn't always specify which one it is referring to. The first heaven is where the birds fly, the second one is the larger area around the earth, and the other is in some distant galactic location, possibly Orion, IDK. If you go with my UFO theory, and there are massive UFO's by the hundreds/thousands cloaked from visibility in our atmosphere, the disaster this Rev. passage below depicts, could easily be the UFO's beaming death and destruction on earth in a cataclysmic fashion, to rival the best Hollywood action movie. If you look at the story of the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah where 3 angels visited and told Abraham to get his brother Lot out before it was blown (one of the Angels was Yahshuah (Jesus) in a pre-incarnate form). This is clearly nuclear and could have been a death ray beamed from a UFO above. The Old Testament is literally packed with details that point to UFO type activity.

    Revelation 11:19 "And the temple of God was opened in heaven, and there was seen in his temple the ark of his testament: and there were lightnings, and voices, and thunderings, and an earthquake, and great hail." Is earth clearly visible from where this is describing?

    Rev. 15:5-16:6 " And after that I looked, and, behold, the temple of the tabernacle of the testimony in heaven was opened: And the seven angels came out of the temple, having the seven plagues, clothed in pure and white linen, and having their breasts girded with golden girdles. And one of the four beasts gave unto the seven angels seven golden vials full of the wrath of God, who liveth for ever and ever. And the temple was filled with smoke from the glory of God, and from his power; and no man was able to enter into the temple, till the seven plagues of the seven angels were fulfilled. And I heard a great voice out of the temple saying to the seven angels, Go your ways, and pour out the vials of the wrath of God upon the earth. And the first went, and poured out his vial upon the earth; and there fell a noisome and grievous sore upon the men which had the mark of the beast, and [upon] them which worshipped his image. And the second angel poured out his vial upon the sea; and it became as the blood of a dead [man]: and every living soul died in the sea. And the third angel poured out his vial upon the rivers and fountains of waters; and they became blood. And I heard the angel of the waters say, Thou art righteous, O Lord, which art, and wast, and shalt be, because thou hast judged thus. For they have shed the blood of saints and prophets, and thou hast given them blood to drink; for they are worthy...." And the blasts of death go on and on. We've seen movies and have got imagination. <!-- s:( -->:(<!-- s:( -->

    Genesis 19:24-29 "Then the LORD rained upon Sodom and upon Gomorrah brimstone and fire from the LORD out of heaven; (micro-waves from UFO's, ha ha) And he overthrew those cities, and all the plain, and all the inhabitants of the cities, and that which grew upon the ground. But his wife looked back from behind him, and she became a pillar of salt. And Abraham gat up early in the morning to the place where he stood before the LORD: And he looked toward Sodom and Gomorrah, and toward all the land of the plain, and beheld, and, lo, the smoke of the country went up as the smoke of a furnace. And it came to pass, when God destroyed the cities of the plain, that God remembered Abraham, and sent Lot out of the midst of the overthrow, when he overthrew the cities in the which Lot dwelt."
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    The last video is Nasa and the space station, and it will blow your mind. This is no spoof or amateur back-yard video but official. Start more like half way through. Look for other videos about this UFO and tether indicent. WE ARE NOT ALONE. Revelations, 2012 HERE WE COME!! All hell will break loose! There's a time and season for everthing. And the scoffers say that doomsday prophets have always been around, 2000 came and went. But does that mean nothing will EVER happen. We know that throughout earth's long history, there have been several (perhaps many more) times when almost all life on earth was destroyed and humans were thrown back to primitive survival. I trust the cryptic understanding of the Bible, I trust Michael, I trust God. In the long run of things, He loves us, His c reation. It will all work together for good, to those who love God. But it's His tory!!
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    An exclusive interview with Andy Pero, survivor of a secret mind control project aimed at creating the super soldier with psionic abilities.

    Andy Pero was unwillingly subjected to a mind control program off-shoot the Monarch Project-a trauma based mind control program similar to what Cathy O' Brien describes in her autobiography by Mark Philips, "Tranceformation of America".

    Andy Pero claims to have been created through a combination of genetic manipulation, trauma based mind control and Silva Mind Control training resulting in superhuman feats and psionic abilities. In addition to this, Mr. Pero alleges to have been unwittingly used in covert assassinations as a Manchurian Candidate and also in missions connected to the Montauk Project, such as time travel.

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    In August of 1998, I met Andy Pero in Philadelphia, PA while attending Bob Eure’s CIREAP group. At the time I was scheduled to be a speaker on my Alien Abduction research. Preston Nichols also presented his material that evening. Preston brought Andy Pero with him this evening as a surprise guest to share some of his "Montauk Boy" experiences.

    When Andy first "broke programming", and memories surfaced of being a covert operative in a sub-project of the Montauk Project, he was "gung-ho" about wanting to take down the whole "evil Nazi Mind Control Regime". He claimed that he and thousands of others had been victimized by this type of mind control experimentation. He was well aware of the Reptilian-Draco Illuminati connection and had a few run-ins with the Reptilian shapeshifters himself.

    Andy was willing to do a radio interview for Night Search, but he later recanted because of a series of abductions, including reptilian assaults—and threats to his future wife and son. Apparently, Andy realized during his "total recall" phase that he had a special soul mate that he was bonded to, who would later become his future wife. He claimed he had sired an 8-year old son with this woman, and that his "abductors/controllers" used this against him to not go public or they would be killed.

    Andy loved them and this was the final straw that silenced him from exposing his full story. I questioned Andy about this soul mate future wife, whether this could be a "love bite set-up" designed to deceive him into being cooperative with his controllers not to go public any further. He insisted that she was real and the mother–son duo lived in some underground base somewhere.

    Much of what Andy told me is in my interview entitled; "Project Superman" published in Unknown Magazine, winter 1999 issue. But there were other tidbits Andy discussed with me, which I considered too unbelievable, although they could be true, but not confirmed. These incidents may very well be true, but I had no way of knowing. Some of these memoirs were funny, others too horrid to repeat.

    One such account is a memory Andy had about being in an underground base, escorted by his human Nazi handlers to a group of tall Greys. Apparently Andy had been able to resist his programmers to such an extent, that his handler, an Aryan looking man he called "Adolph", brought him into a room of 5 Grey aliens.

    These Greys were used to reinforce mind control more effectively for "resistant" slaves. (I chided with Andy that the aliens were the "Master Mind Control Programmers") Andy described seeing 2 Greys sitting down at a table with 3 Greys standing in front of him. Andy heard one of the Greys say telepathically, " You will obey us." Andy screamed back to the skin-headed aliens, "Look, knock that off or I’ll kill you!"

    The aliens continued their demands of obedience into Andy’s mind. Andy warned them a second time, "I’ll kill you!" Then Andy focused his telekinetic psi ability to physically throw the commanding alien up against the wall, splitting its head open. The other 3 aliens stood up, as Andy picked up another alien with his "mind powers", until the whole group of them scrambled out of the room.

    Sensing that this situation was getting out of control, Adolph grabbed Andy and said, "Let’s get out of here!" Full of adrenaline, Andy shouted back, "I don’t care, I’m indestructible!" I couldn’t help but ask Andy, "What color was the aliens head’s insides that splat all over the wall? Did they have red blood?" He told me, "It was whitish grey with greenish blood." We joked about that one, laughing it off as "alien Grey split pea soup!" (I mentioned this to an Internet list group of "experiencers" and they became very angry with me, wanting to defend the poor aliens. They eventually kicked me off the Muppet list!)

    Andy did say he had been abducted by the alien Greys a few times, where samples were taken from him for breeding purposes. One of the more bizarre stories Andy related to me was about his visit to a group of high level Illuminati, who were really shape shifting reptilians, that convened in an underground base not far from Rochester, NY. This happened sometime in 1989-90.

    He was not sure of the exact location, but it was an underground facility in a large conference room where a very long, dark wooded conference table sat. It was a party gathering where a group of tall, Aryan looking; older males were having drinks. One of the men walked over to Andy, and his human image phased out, as if there was an energetic interference that caused his holographic image to shift.

    Andy looked at the creature as he adjusted some button on a black box device attached to his waist. The man’s image shifted from a tall human to a 7-foot tall, 450lb lizard man, according to Andy. The reptilian shifted back again to human, and then said, "Here, I’ll show you". So he pushes the button on his waist device and his image shifts back to the 7-foot tall Reptoid creature. Apparently, Andy thought that his energy field caused a momentary shift in the holographic human image that the Reptilian masqueraded.

    The artificial hologram was maintained by a device that they wore on their waist. I wouldn’t have taken Andy’s story too seriously, except for a similar report from a Monarch slave who described the same thing—the long, wooden conference table, the same large view screen in the front of the room, and the tall Aryan humans who could alter their holographic image via a box held at their waist.


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    MONTAUK PROJECT: ALIENS <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? -->
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    What you are about to encounter is the most in-depth compilation of interviews with survivors of the Philadelphia experiment and Montauk project to date.

    The information comes from the memories of those who were interviewed. Because these projects are so secretive, gaining hard evidence is nearly impossible. However, that doesn't mean the projects never happened.

    This information is for those who want to pursue and know the truth. Sometimes, finding the truth becomes elusive. There are many out there who do not want you to know the truth about these projects. Use your own judgment as you hear the words of these survivors.

    As you follow this story, use this information as the beginning resource to hopefully, get you on the right track.


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    I have NO CLUE whether this is REAL or NOT, meaning I personally haven't seen it with my own eyes.

    I am leaning towards REAL but, this isn't what it appears to be, meaning I am under the belief that this has been twisted into a theory of ALIENS from outer space, under the mind control programming of The Illuminati to scare the crap out of people to have them conform, submit to THEM. NWO Power Theme.

    What I believe these Aliens to be (and yes I do think they exist) but, what I think they are is DEMONS...the ones described in the links above.

    They're the opposite of ANGELS...Angelic beings can also look like aliens...imo.
    lol Weird Science..lol
    Peace
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    The book: The Montauk Project: Experiments in Time
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    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^Excerpt from above link
    Peter Moon

    Co-author of the Montauk Series, Peter Moon is a writer who has a unique talent for blending the bizarre into normal reality and conveying it in simple language that can be understood. He began studying the esoteric tradition as a young man which led to many personal spiritual discoveries. This led him on a path to the enigmatic L. Ron Hubbard who he served as a personal confidante aboard the former’s mystery yacht Apollo.

    Learning the basic secrets of Scientology, which included the precise study of how to clear up implants, Peter Moon ignited factors in his own life that would take him away from organized Scientology and lead to more bizarre adventures yet. His study of Hubbard’s pre-Scientology life led him to the work of Aleister Crowley whereupon he began to traffic with some of the most interesting occultists in the world, and more importantly, the discovery of a real life implant station at Montauk Point, New York.

    He found out about this remarkable information from Preston Nichols, a scientist who actually worked at the implant station and told fascinating and detailed accounts of time travel experimentation.

    Notice the two names mentioned...
    L. Ron Hubbard
    Aleister Crowley

    Peace
  • MJonmindMJonmind Posts: 7,290
    I read related aspects of that stuff years ago, and it is scary stuff, (most of it way over my head) and things happening down under Area 51 or the many personal testimonies of encounters, for example; classified to the public, who scurry about their happy routine lives above, would die of fright. <!-- s:shock: -->:shock:<!-- s:shock: --> While I used to wonder if it was all demonic, I think that word is too generic, like saying everything in the natural world is Science. "Science" encompasses billions of interesting visible objects. So too, "demonic" is simply a layman's term for the vast unknown to us. Five hundred years ago people seeing a light switch go on to light a room, would have thought it was demonic. I have come to believe that at the very top top top, the evil and the good blend into the Awesome God, Power, Force, Intelligence that created, sustains, and plans every atom of matter and energy, and event in time. Evil was created to form the antithesis of good. Black, a backdrop to showcase light. The duality other threads have discussed. The Bible in its original language of ancient Hebrew (IMO), is the best of God's cryptic clues to mankind to discover universal truth. NOT for shallow study.

    I always think to myself, there is outright deliberate lying information, there is misinformed scare-mongering of frightened investigators who have embellished stories, and then there is real solid (historically, scientifically, archeologically, and intellectually verified) truth, sprinkled here and there for earnest diggers to find. Diamonds are usually placed deep and are rare, and even when found have to be precisely cut to bring out their true brilliance and value.
  • SarahliSarahli Posts: 4,265
    Some things in the Bible have to be taken like metaphors I think and not at face value.

    For example

    "And the shapes of the locusts [were] like unto horses prepared unto battle; and on their heads [were] as it were crowns like gold, and their faces [were] as the faces of men."

    The locusts can be the helicopters of today. At the time of the revelations helicopters didn't exist (I know that you know <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D --> this is just to put things clear) hence the description which can make people fantasy nowadays on the existence of "Aliens".

    I am very skeptical about UFO's as described by people. I believe in other forms of life and I know that we don't know everything but the existence of a super intelligent force with space ships that would show up before the end of times like in Independance Day makes me wonder... I think it's part of the NWO agenda.
    As Im_convincedmjalive said it has also something to see with mental programming.

    The so-called Aliens can "simply" be Demons. Satan's army. We don't know what they look like and the NWO powers makes them enter our dimension by opening gates and by doing satanic rituals under contructions like domes or pyramids because these architectures attract a lot of energy and depending on the rituals that are made under depends the energy that is brought.

    I think and it's my personal belief that the Pyramids in Egypt were built with the help of Demons. Because their contruction has still now not been explained. How did they manage to built Pyramids with absolutely nothing but stones. They had no devices like today. How did they do ?

    I advise this serie of videos "a trip into the supernatural" :
    "Roger Morneau was involved in demon worship, lived in that world for many months, and escaped alive. He is able to give us inside information about it. It does not conform with popular notes of who parttakes and what the activities are. Roger was elected to be a member of an elite group of demon worshipers. When he was about to be permanently initiated he asked for help from higher powers to leave it alive. Interview with the famous author of the book titled the same."

    I put part 1 here:

    [youtube:1yfg8dws]
  • I read related aspects of that stuff years ago, and it is scary stuff, (most of it way over my head) and things happening down under Area 51 or the many personal testimonies of encounters, for example; classified to the public, who scurry about their happy routine lives above, would die of fright. <!-- s:shock: -->:shock:<!-- s:shock: --> While I used to wonder if it was all demonic, I think that word is too generic, like saying everything in the natural world is Science. "Science" encompasses billions of interesting visible objects. So too, "demonic" is simply a layman's term for the vast unknown to us. Five hundred years ago people seeing a light switch go on to light a room, would have thought it was demonic. I have come to believe that at the very top top top, the evil and the good blend into the Awesome God, Power, Force, Intelligence that created, sustains, and plans every atom of matter and energy, and event in time. Evil was created to form the antithesis of good. Black, a backdrop to showcase light. The duality other threads have discussed. The Bible in its original language of ancient Hebrew (IMO), is the best of God's cryptic clues to mankind to discover universal truth. NOT for shallow study.

    I always think to myself, there is outright deliberate lying information, there is misinformed scare-mongering of frightened investigators who have embellished stories, and then there is real solid (historically, scientifically, archeologically, and intellectually verified) truth, sprinkled here and there for earnest diggers to find. Diamonds are usually placed deep and are rare, and even when found have to be precisely cut to bring out their true brilliance and value.


    When I use the term Demons, I am NOT using it in a generic blanket ALL term to justify everything happening in our world or beyond.

    I mean that the "INTENTION" behind an experiment like The Montauk Project is demonic in nature. And who knows if the Aliens that guy saw weren't Demons?

    I could use the term Angelic if the experiment and INTENTIONS were the ones performing The Montauk Project. But, I have to conclude it is demonic in it's use because of what the experiments entail:

    Mind Control with GOD knows what kind of torture happening to the people who were subject to this.

    I don't claim to know or understand half of what is out there.

    I am sure there is some shit that exists that would freak me into a state of pissing my pants.

    Lmao..

    Ok I love the X-files..."The truth is out there somewhere"
    Peace
  • Some things in the Bible have to be taken like metaphors I think and not at face value.

    For example

    "And the shapes of the locusts [were] like unto horses prepared unto battle; and on their heads [were] as it were crowns like gold, and their faces [were] as the faces of men."

    The locusts can be the helicopters of today. At the time of the revelations helicopters didn't exist (I know that you know <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D --> this is just to put things clear) hence the description which can make people fantasy nowadays on the existence of "Aliens".

    I am very skeptical about UFO's as described by people. I believe in other forms of life and I know that we don't know everything but the existence of a super intelligent force with space ships that would show up before the end of times like in Independance Day makes me wonder... I think it's part of the NWO agenda.
    As Im_convincedmjalive said it has also something to see with mental programming.

    The so-called Aliens can "simply" be Demons. Satan's army. We don't know what they look like and the NWO powers makes them enter our dimension by opening gates and by doing satanic rituals under contructions like domes or pyramids because these architectures attract a lot of energy and depending on the rituals that are made under depends the energy that is brought.

    I think and it's my personal belief that the Pyramids in Egypt were built with the help of Demons. Because their contruction has still now not been explained. How did they manage to built Pyramids with absolutely nothing but stones. They had no devices like today. How did they do ?

    I advise this serie of videos "a trip into the supernatural" :
    "Roger Morneau was involved in demon worship, lived in that world for many months, and escaped alive. He is able to give us inside information about it. It does not conform with popular notes of who parttakes and what the activities are. Roger was elected to be a member of an elite group of demon worshipers. When he was about to be permanently initiated he asked for help from higher powers to leave it alive. Interview with the famous author of the book titled the same."

    I put part 1 here:

    [youtube:1yb3u12j]


    Thanks for this video.

    As for the Super Natural and spiritual realm,

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    Why cast out demons? They don't leave automatically!

    It's vital to understand the importance of casting out demons. Some believers assume that demons will automatically leave on their own accord once the legal grounds are removed, but that simply isn't true. I believe there are many times when they do, simply because the demon chooses not to hang around where he has no 'hold' or 'right' to a person, but that is by no means true in every case.

    Removing legal grounds isn't always enough.

    If demons left automatically when their legal grounds were removed, why didn't Jesus simply tell those who were possessed with demons that their sins were forgiven, as He did with others (Matthew 9:2)? Instead He rebuked demons and commanded them to come out and they often made a big scene when they came out! Wouldn't it be easier to tell them that their sins were forgiven? One time Jesus even said, "For whether is easier, to say, Thy sins be forgiven thee; or to say, Arise, and walk?" (Matthew 9:5) If you ask me, it would be a LOT easier to say "thy sins be forgiven", than to rebuke demons and have them throw the person to the ground in convulsions, foam at the mouth, scream to the top of a person's lungs, etc. There's a clear purpose in casting out demons, and Jesus' life here on earth was an example for us to learn from (John 14:12, "He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also."), and a large part of His ministry was casting out demons.

    We may be cleansed from legal grounds in our lives, but unwelcome guests (evil spirits) may still need to be told to leave. Let's say that you lived in an apartment and had a roommate, but one day you chose to have the place to yourself, so you started paying the full rent for your apartment (so you have full legal rights to live there alone), but where your problem lies is that your stubborn roommate (who no longer has a legal right to live there) refuses to leave. The same principal applies in the spiritual realm when dealing with demons. This is why Jesus gave us authority over demon spirits to cast them out. If demons left on their own accord once their legal grounds are broken, there would be no need to cast them out! But Jesus made it clear that them who believe will be casting out demons (Mark 16:17).

    Mark 9:29 also makes it clear that some demons, regardless if their legal grounds are removed or not, require prayer and fasting to drive out, "And he said unto them, This kind can come forth by nothing, but by prayer and fasting." Jesus was perfectly capable of forgiving a person's sins when He was here on earth (Luke 7:47), so for Him to tell us that some demons require prayer and fasting to drive out, tells us that demons simply don't leave the moment their legal grounds are removed.

    The nature of demons.
    It's vital to learn of the nature of demons, because when you realize that they are stubborn and rebellious beings that often need to be TOLD to leave, you'll understand why it's important to cast them out. Let's take a look at some of the tantrums they threw as Jesus cast them out:

    In Mark 9:20, we find a story of when a demon was so upset that he had to leave, that he took control over the boy and threw him into a convulsion with foam coming out of his mouth, "And they brought him unto him: and when he saw him, straightway the spirit tore him (took control over the boy and threw him into a convulsion); and he fell on the ground, and wallowed (rolled around) foaming (foam was coming out of his mouth)."

    In Luke 9:39, we find another story where a demon threw an awful tantrum as he was driven out, "And, lo, a spirit taketh him, and he suddenly crieth out; and it teareth him (threw the person into a convulsion) that he foameth again, and bruising him hardly (harshly bruising him physically) departeth from him."

    Perhaps one of the most common manifestations mentioned in the Bible is found in Mark 1:26, "And when the unclean spirit had torn him, and cried with a loud voice, he came out of him." Properly interpreted, the word cried here actually refers to screaming. The demon didn't go out quietly, it went out screaming and thew the boy into a convulsion on it's way out!

    If demons throw such fits as JESUS Himself cast them out, what makes us think they will peacefully leave on their own accord? What amazes me, is how people expect demons to play nice and leave automatically, but they would never expect a criminal to willfully give up his lifestyle without the authority of policemen stepping in and forcing the man to either change or be cast into prison.

    Deliverance was not available in the OT
    Back in the OT, once a person picked up a demon, they had to pretty much live with it. The casting out of demons only came on the scene when Jesus arrived on earth and had the authority to cast them out.

    In Mark 1:27, we find that the people around Jesus were shocked when they saw Him exercise His authority over evil spirits because they had never seen this happen before, nor was it ever mentioned in all of history, "And they were all amazed, insomuch that they questioned among themselves saying, What thing is this? what new doctrine is this? for with authority commandeth he even the unclean spirits, and they do obey him."

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    ^^^^This is sorta an explanation of what is a deliverance (casting out of demons) every deliverance and how it is done will be different but, the idea is most definetly the same.

    And Yes it is very REAL.
    I do have personal experience in a Deliverance and casting out of my own demons. Not fun let me tell ya... <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? -->

    Peace
  • Moving along...

    Onto the Vatican, Black Pope, Jesuit connections..

    Once again connecting tweets to info.

    Thisisalmostit tweet:
    a black pope?
    3:06 AM May 20th via web

    This article/interview is lengthy but very informative and worth reading.
    I am only highlighting some stuff from the article.

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    Martin: What is the ULTIMATE goal of the Jesuits?

    Phelps: Their ultimate goal is the rule of the world, with the Pope of their making, from Solomon’s rebuilt Temple in Jerusalem. That’s their ultimate goal.

    Martin: And why is Solomon’s Temple rebuilt so important?

    Phelps: Because the Jesuits have always wanted that. When Ignatius Loyola first started the Order, one of the first things he did was, he wanted to go to Jerusalem and set up the Jesuit headquarters there. So, he went there, he tried to do it and failed, came back, went to school, started his Latin studies, etc. Maybe it might be a good idea to just review a little bit about Ignatius Loyola.

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    Martin: Regarding the assassination of President John Kennedy, which could take this entire interview, you say that the assassination was ordered by the Jesuit General, executed by Pope Paul VI, and carried out by the "American Pope", Francis Cardinal Spellman—who, in turn, used the Knights of Malta, Shriner Freemasons, Knights of Columbus, and Mafia Dons, including the FBI and CIA, to carry out the order from Rome. Would you explain why you believe your particular theory on the assassination to be an accurate representation of the facts?

    Phelps: Sure. Alright, number one: The powers that be are properly outlined [in his book], and proven through two centuries of showing how it’s all been put together. Now, as to why, I will be conservative and stick with Fletcher Prouty’s reasons, that he outlined in his JFK and also his other book called The Secret Team.

    The reason why Kennedy was assassinated was he wanted to end the Vietnam War, and he wanted to end the rule of the CIA. That begets two questions: Did Rome want the Vietnam War? And, did Rome control the CIA? The answer is yes on both counts.

    We know, on its face, that the Vietnam War was called "Spelly’s War"—Cardinal Spellman’s war. He went over to the warfront many times and he called the American soldiers the "soldiers of Christ". The man who was the Commander of the American forces was a Roman Catholic, CFR member, possibly a Knight of Columbus, I don’t know, but he was General William Westmoreland.

    So, Westmoreland was Cardinal Spellman’s agent to make sure that war was prosecuted properly. And another overseer of Westmoreland was Cardinal Spellman’s boy, Lyndon Baines Johnson. Lyndon Baines Johnson was a 33rd-degree Freemason. He was also part of the assassination, with J. Edgar Hoover, another 33rd-degree Freemason.

    And Johnson went to Cardinal Spellman’s death at St. Patrick’s Cathedral, and the picture can be seen in Cooney’s work The American Pope. So, Johnson was completely at the beck and call of Cardinal Spellman through Cartha DeLoach, the 3rd-in-control of the FBI. According to Curt Gentry, in his Hoover: The Man And The Secrets, DeLoach had a phone at his bedside direct to Johnson, and Johnson could call him anytime. DeLoach was a Knight of Malta, subject to Spellman.

    Spellman wanted the Vietnam War, why? Spellman was controlled by the Jesuits of Fordham. Why did the Jesuit General want the Vietnam War? The people of Vietnam, the Buddhists, were unconvertible. They would not convert to Catholicism. They didn’t need Rome.

    There had been a Jesuit presence in Vietnam for centuries, so it had been decided that about a million or so Buddhists would have to be "purged". They would later continue this purge of Cambodia, with Pol Pot, and the purge is yet for Thailand. It was a purging of Laos, Cambodia, and Vietnam of all these Buddhists, just like they purged the Buddhists of China with Mao Zedong, because Mao Zedong was completely controlled by the Jesuits. So, they wanted the Vietnam War.

    The other thing is that Rome is in control of the drug trade. The Vatican controls all of the drug trade—all of the heroin, all of the opium, all of the cocaine, everything going around in Columbia.

    Columbia has a concordat with the Pope. A concordat is a treaty with the Pope. Hitler had a concordat. Mussolini had a concordat. Franco had a concordat. They want to set up a concordat here, which was the reason for Reagan formally recognizing the sovereign state of Vatican City in 1984. The greatest traitor we ever had was Ronald Reagan.

    So, they had a concordat. Columbia has a concordat. Do you think that drugs running out of Columbia, with a country that has a concordat with Rome, is not controlled by Rome? If Rome didn’t want the drug trade out of Columbia, they’d end the concordat. The whole drug trade is run by high Mafia families out of the country of Columbia, subject to the Jesuit General.

    And the Jesuit General ran the Opium trade, a couple of centuries ago, out of China. They ran the silk trade, the pearl trade. The movie Shogun is but a slight scratching of the surface of the Jesuit "black ships" that trafficked in all of this silk and pearls and gold and opals and everything they could pull out of the East, including opium.

    The Vietnam War was to consolidate and control this huge massive drug-trade that would inundate every American city with drugs, being brought in by the CIA with their Air America, and then distributed by the Trafficante family throughout the United States—Santos Trafficante out of Miami.

    So we have the Mafia and the CIA working together in the drug trade. We have the Mafia and the CIA working together in the assassination of Kennedy.

    The first reason why the Jesuit General [at that time, Jean-Baptist Janssens] wanted Kennedy out of the way was because he was going to end the Vietnam War.

    The second reason is, he wanted to end the reign of the CIA, because the CIA had betrayed him in the person of McGeorge Bundy, by not giving the cover to the Cuban patriots to retake Cuba from that Roman Catholic, Jesuit-trained, grease-ball bastard—he was a bastard, his father was a Nazi—Fidel Castro.

    Kennedy was betrayed by the CIA at the Bay of Pigs invasion, which sacrificed all the patriots on the shores of the Bay of Pigs there, so Castro had no real opposition. This was the same tactic, used by the CIA and the KGB at the top, working together with Angleton controlling it, in the Hungarian Revolution, when the CIA fomented that revolution, and then betrayed all of those patriots into the hands of the Soviet army and KGB, which infuriated certain top CIA officials.

    It’s the same tactic: you raise up a revolution and you sacrifice the men who truly want to resist. When that happened, when McGeorge Bundy stopped the air cover of the Bay of Pigs invasion, that ended that resistance to Castro and it enthroned him into power. And, of course, it was meant to be by the Jesuits because they HAD trained him. So now Kennedy looks bad. He’s got egg all over his face. What does he want to do? He signs a Memorandum, according to Fletcher Prouty, and takes all of the power away from the CIA, and gives it to the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

    The CIA was built by the Knights of Malta. One of the founders of the CIA was "Wild" Bill Donovan, an Irish Roman Catholic, who are the most fanatical, and his brother was a Dominican priest, Vincent. So, the CIA was founded by this high Roman Catholic, the first head, to solidify the Catholic or the Vatican control of it.

    I’m not against the Catholic people; I’m against Rome’s hierarchy. The American Catholic people know NOTHING of what’s going on. And if they did, there would be a march on St. Patrick’s tomorrow morning. So, as I’m against the hierarchy, I’m showing that Kennedy was against the Vietnam War, and he was going to do away with the CIA.

    Well, the Jesuits had brought in all of their top Nazi SS soldiers into the CIA because the Jesuits were using the SS to kill the Jews in Europe. When the Einsatzgruppen went into Russia, the Jesuits followed with the SS and purged Western Russia of all its Jews. That’s why Stalin deliberately killed 40,000 of his best officers. That’s why he kicked out his best generals, purged them, because he wanted to make sure that the Red Army would lose with the advance of the German army, because following that would come the SS and purge Russia of the Jews that Stalin so hated. And by the way, justice is often poetic because Stalin’s daughter married a Jew.

    Now, the CIA was composed of the SS. The CIA now was an arm—and the intelligence arm—of the Vatican. The Knights of Malta were throughout. Casey was a Knight of Malta. Angleton was a Knight of Malta. The Knights were through and through. Angleton manned the "Vatican desk", and that is a desk within the CIA that has a direct link to the Vatican.

    So, Kennedy wanted to end this "intelligence community". That was the end of him.

    Thus for anyone attempting to end the CIA, and attempting to end the Vietnam War, and also because he attacked the Jesuits’ Federal Reserve Bank by printing United States Notes, they got rid of him. They killed our only Roman Catholic president.

    And it’s another piece of poetic justice that a Roman Catholic—not Protestants, like Harry Truman, FDR, and others—it’s a Roman Catholic who truly sought to resist the temporal power of the Pope in this country. And in many ways, even though Kennedy was, in fact, a socialist and communist, at least he resisted the temporal power of the Pope. And for that we should be thankful and remember his name.

    But what have they done to his name? They’ve slammed it. They drag it into the dirt. Every time you see it on TV, they parade before you his womanizing, which I don’t deny, but my goodness, can’t we give him some credit where credit is due? That’s why they got rid of John F. Kennedy.

    And then, of course, as soon as he’s assassinated, John McCone, the head of the CIA, the following day goes to the White House and they reverse Kennedy’s Memorandum of reversing the Vietnam War and make a full-scale, carte blache war.

    The CIA then is tremendously and heavily funded, because it was a CIA war. And there they tried all of their new technology, their anti-gravity machines, their men who they’re trying to make like the "million-dollar man". They tried out all their new technology in Vietnam. It was a great experimental theater, and Kennedy knew this. He knew it, and he knew that the American people had no idea what was going down, and he still tried to resist it, against his father’s warnings. Because his father was the most powerful Knight of Malta in the Empire.

    Martin: Any theories on why they took out junior?

    Phelps: Yes. According to Tom Kuncle, in his publication, John F. Kennedy, Jr. wanted to find his father’s real killers, and he had the power to publish the conclusion. So, they took him out right away. They would not allow that to happen.

    Martin: Why haven’t you been taken out?

    Phelps: Because I am immortal—until the Lord is done with me. I am a Calvinist and a Baptist, and we believe in the sovereignty of God. And as long as we are operating in His Will, they cannot touch us, regardless of their power. <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->

    Martin: Which is why we’re having this conversation.

    Phelps: Which is why we’re having the conversation. Don’t think for one moment they’re not tapping this phone. They know this. The issue is here. We’re talking about a providential, sovereign God who wishes to move, using second causes, men, just as the Devil does.

    The Devil always uses second causes, men. So, it’s one group of men vs. another group of men, and one path leads to evil, and the true, almighty God leads to goodness.

    The problem is, with us, there are very few men who want to believe God anymore. Nobody believes He can deliver anymore. It’s just a handful of us who say: "Well, we’re going to do His Will; we’re going to trust Him in His Power."

    And like the Hebrews getting ready to be thrown into the fiery furnace of Nebuchadnezzar, our God is able to deliver us. We’re going to tell the truth!

    Martin: Let’s see here. I can throw away a lot of these questions. So much of it seems, in a way, irrelevant to our current times because there’s so much going on now. But, good grief! I was just stunned to read in your book of all the historical things that have happened as a result of these evil people. You dedicated the book to four Roman Catholics who, I’m sure, no one has ever heard of: Charles Chiniquy, Jeremiah Crowley, Emmett McLaughlin, and Alberto Rivera. Why them?

    Phelps: Because those Roman Catholic men were priests; they left the priesthood and told the truth about what was really happening. And all four of them, except one, I think Emmett McLaughlin, paid with their life. Chiniquy was the great exposer of the Jesuit assassination of President Lincoln, when he wrote his masterpiece Fifty Years In The Church Of Rome in 1886. He proves that Lincoln was assassinated by the Jesuits, and that it was covered-up by our government at the time.

    Jeremiah Crowley: that priest was a great Irishman who came here and, seeing the corruption of the Archdiocese in Chicago, that it was so corrupt, he left it and exposed it. And, of course, he later came to Christ and became a Bible-believer, which they would call a Protestant. Protestants today don’t believe the Bible. Protestantism of today is an empty shell, it’s nothing. But, back then, in 1912, they believed the Bible.

    Crowley, then, exposed many things, and one of the things he exposed, that helped me with this, was that he warned that the Jesuits, with their Knights of Columbus—which, he says, the Knights of Columbus, named after Columbus, who he tells us was a Spanish Jew and a pirate and a deflowerer of young girls—that Columbus was no Christian.

    He has a tremendous section in his book on Columbus. That the purpose of the Knights of Columbus was to fulfill Jesuitical politics, and part of those politics was to restore the temporal power of the Pope because, you remember, the Pope had lost that in 1870 and they wanted to get it back. And they got it back with Mussolini in 1929.

    Well, in the book that Crowley wrote in 1912, he says that Taft and Teddy Roosevelt were all cow-towing to the Pope and the Cardinals of New York. And he said they’re going to use our military to restore the Pope’s temporal power around the world.

    And THAT was absolutely correct. That is American foreign policy. And the Council of Trent is the American foreign policy of today. That’s what’s going on in Serbia and Bosnia. It’s the Council of Trent—the Jesuits using the American Air Force to bomb those orthodox people to smithereens. But, that was Crowley’s great contribution.

    Next, Emmett McLaughlin wrote several books. He wrote The People’s Padre; he wrote Crime And Immorality In The Catholic Church, showing that Catholic nations are more lawless and more criminal than Protestant nations, and he proved it with statistics from the jails.

    Emmett McLaughlin also wrote another book called The Assassination Of Abraham Lincoln, where he, again, shows that Lincoln was assassinated by the Jesuits. So, Emmett McLaughlin came out of the Catholic Church. To my knowledge, he never was born again. He never was saved, but he did tell the truth. He married a nun, and lived a virtuous and honorable life after he left.

    The last one was, of course, Alberto Rivera, who was greatly hated by the Vatican because he was a very high Jesuit who came out and, in the late ’60s, about 1969, exposed the power of Rome in the ecumenical movement, that Rome controlled Kathryn Kuhlman; that Rome controlled Billy Graham; that Rome controlled, virtually, our government—Ronald Reagan.

    Reagan, when he took the Oath of Office, faced the obelisk, indicating that this country will ultimately have a concordat. So, Alberto Rivera converted to Christ, wonderfully, and he started a ministry called The Anti-Christ Information Center, out of Los Angeles.

    They tried to kill him five times. A dentist jammed a needle up between his teeth, trying to give him an infection in the brain. When he passed out, about a year or so later, they couldn’t figure it out. Everybody was praying for him. And this was discovered when he went to another dentist. He had it removed.

    He was pushed in front of a subway train. They tried five times to kill the man, and finally he died, I believe, of cancer, in a hospital, about three years ago. But these four wonderful, great, Catholic priests did their best to expose the power of Rome and its attempts to destroy our sovereign, Protestant, Bible-believing nation. And so, to them, I dedicate it.
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    The Society of Jesus (Latin: Societas Iesu, S.J. and S.I. or SJ, SI) is a religious order of men called Jesuits, who follow the teachings of the Catholic Church. Jesuit priests and brothers — also sometimes known colloquially as "God's marines" — are engaged in evangelization and apostolic ministry in 112 nations on six continents reflecting the Formula of the Institute (principle) of the Society. They are known in the fields of education (schools, colleges, universities, seminaries, theological faculties), intellectual research, and cultural pursuits in addition to missionary work, giving retreats, hospital and parish ministry, promoting social justice and ecumenical dialogue.
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    IMO The society of Jesus aka Jesuits, are blasphemy against The One True God and Jesus. They are IMO a group of people who are doing what many before them have done.. used God's name to commit aweful sins.

    Wolves in sheep's clothing.

    Peace
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  • SarahliSarahli Posts: 4,265
    Thanks for this I also read a lot of stuff about the Jesuits and the Vatican.

    I came across this I find it interesting:

    The trinity of global empire

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    There are three cities (city-states) across this planet that share striking similarities and play a crucial role in the global governmental system we have long been living under. The three city-states (along with the role they serve) is as follows:

    City of London (finance)

    Washington DC (military)

    Vatican City (religion)

    The aforementioned city-states listed above are sovereign, corporate entities not connected to the nations they appear to be part of. In other words, the City of London (that is the square mile within Greater London) is not technically part of Greater London or England, just as Vatican City is not part of Rome or Italy. Likewise, Washington DC is not part of the United States that it controls.

    These sovereign, corporate entities have their own laws and their own identities. They also have their own flags. Seen below is the flag of Washington DC. Note the three stars, representing the trinity of these three city-states, also known as the Empire of the City. (There is also high esoteric significance to the number 3.)

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    Washington DC was established as a city-state in 1871 with the passage of the Act of 1871, which officially established the United States as a corporation under the rule of Washington, which itself is subservient to the City of London. Corporations are run by presidents, which is why we call the person perceived to hold the highest seat of power in the land "the president." The fact is the president is nothing more than a figurehead for the central bankers and transnational corporations (both of which themselves are controlled by High Ecclesiastic Freemasonry) that really control this country and ultimately call the shots.

    Washington DC operates under a system of Roman Law and outside of the limitations established by the US Constitution. Therefore, it should not be a surprise that the name Capitol Hill derives from Capitoline Hill, which was the seat of government for the Roman Empire. If you look at the wall behind the podium in the House of Representatives, you will notice that on either side of the US flag is the depiction of bundles of sticks tied together with an axe. These are called fasci, hence the root word of fascism. This was the symbol of fascism in the Roman Empire, as it was under the Nazis and still is today. It is not a coincidence that these symbols are featured on the floor of Congress.

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    Any American who thinks they are living in a free country does not have a clue.

    The fact is that the United States corporation is controlled from the City of London, by the Crown, which is not the British Monarchy as many believe, but rather the private corporation that is the inner 'City of London' itself, also commonly known as "The City" or "The Square Mile." This square mile that makes up the center of Greater London has its own mayor, laws, courts, flag, police force and newspaper. It is the heart of the global financial system.

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    Vatican City also has its own mayor (called the Governatorate), laws, flag, postal service, newspaper, radio and television stations, and even its own prison.

    Another thing these three city-states have in common are their own obelisks. Obelisks are tall, four-sided shafts of stone which taper at the top in a pyramidal fashion. The obelisk is phallic in its appearance and represents the male penis. It is symbolic of the Egyptian sun god, Ra, and is an ancient symbol of male energy and generation (G) in Freemasonry.

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    Vatican obelisk: Located in St. Peter's Square, the Vatican obelisk was moved from Egypt to its current location in 1586. The circle at the base on the obelisk represents the female vagina and thus male/female duality. Also notice the lines extending from the circle, forming a Union Jack as seen on the British flag.

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    London obelisk (aka Cleopatra's Needle): Located on the banks of the River Thames, this obelisk was transported to London and erected in 1878 under the reign of Queen Victoria. The obelisk originally stood in the Egyptian city of On, or Heliopolis (the City of the Sun). The Knights Templars' land extended to this area of the Thames, where the Templars had their own docks. Either side of the obelisk is surrounded by a sphinx, also symbolism dating back to the ancient world.

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    Washington Obelisk (aka Washington Monument): Standing at 555 feet, the Washington Monument is the tallest obelisk in the world and also the tallest standing structure in Washington DC. The monument's cornerstone, a 12-ton slab of marble, was donated by the Grand Lodge of Freemasons. Like the Vatican obelisk, the Washington monument too is surrounded by a circle denoting the female. The reflecting pool in front of the monument signifies the ancient Masonic/Kabbalistic dictum, as above/so below.

    So how are these three cities ultimately connected? We must first go back to the Knights Templar and their initial 200-year reign of power. The Knights Templar were first called "the Poor Fellow-Soldiers of Christ and the Temple of Solomon." This is a blatantly misleading title, considering the immense wealth and power of the Templars, who operated 9,000 manors across Europe and owned all the mills and markets. It was the Templars that issued the first paper money for public use in Europe, establishing the fiat banking system we know today. In England, the Templars established their headquarters at a London temple, which still exists today and is called Temple Bar. This is located in the City of London, between Fleet Street and Victoria Embankment. The aforementioned "Crown," to be exact, is the Knights Templar church, also known as the Crown Temple. It is the Crown Temple that controls the legal/court system of the US, Canada and many other countries. All bar associations are directly linked to the International Bar Association and the Inns of Court at Crown Temple in the City of London. Anytime you hear somebody refer to the Bar Association, they are talking about a British/Masonic system that has nothing to do with a country's sovereignty or the constitutional rights of its people. This is why, when you go to court in the US, you see the US flag with a gold fringe, denoting international rule. The government of the United States, Canada and Britain are all subsidiaries of the crown, as is the Federal Reserve in the US. The ruling Monarch in England is also subordinate to the Crown. The global financial and legal system is controlled from the City of London by the Crown. The square mile making up the center of Greater London is the global seat of power, at least at the visible level.

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    The Temple Bar consists of what are called Inns of Court. There are four Inns of Court as follows: Inner Temple, Middle Temple, Lincoln's Inn and Gray's Inn. It is believed that the Inner Temple controls the legal system of Canada and Britain while the Middle Temple controls the legal system of the United States, though all Inns are themselves controlled by the same few at the top.

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    Most Americans (and people in general) believe the US declared independence from Britain when this is simply not the case. Of the signatories to the Declaration of Independence, at least five of them were Temple Bar attorneys, all of whom had sworn allegiance to the Crown. Alexander Hamilton was one of the Middle Crown agents during the formation of the US and was assigned to set up the American banking system on orders from the Crown, to control the United States. In fact a 'State' is a legal entity of the Crown. This is why we also have the STATE of Israel.

    Furthermore, of the members of the Constitutional Convention that signed the completed US Constitution, seven were Middle Inn Templars who had also pledged allegiance to the Crown. Therefore, it is no coincidence that today copies of both the Declaration of Independence and US Constitution hang on the wall in the library of of the Middle Temple in London.

    To put it all in context, it is the Crown that controls the global financial system and runs the governments of all Commonwealth countries, and many non-Commonwealth 'Western' nations as well. The Crown traces back to the Vatican, which is headed by the Pope, who is the figurehead for the real powers that be behind the curtain, some of which are known but many of which are completely unknown to the general public.

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  • "The Crown traces back to the Vatican, which is headed by the Pope, who is the figurehead for the real powers that be behind the curtain, some of which are known but many of which are completely unknown to the general public."

    Which according to the info I found on The Black Pope (who is The General and the REAL person running the show) these other entities like The President of USA, The Queen Of England, and so on are only puppets and pawns.
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    Today, who is the Superior General of the Jesuits, the so-called "Black Pope" [black here refers to hidden, evil activities, not to race or color] who gives the orders to the actual Pope. Is it still Jean-Baptist Janssens?

    Phelps: Janssens, Frenchman. No, he passed away in 1964. Then Pedro Arrupe came to power. Then, after Arrupe died, in 1988, I believe, the present Jesuit General is Count Hans Kolvenbach. [See photo nearby.] I call him Count Hans Kolven hoof.

    Martin: Let’s discuss this position of "General" and, in addition, who is this person, Count Hans Kolvenbach? Who does he serve? What are his origins? Where does he hail from?

    Phelps: The present General is a Dutchman, his nationality is Dutch.

    Martin: Where is he? Physically, where is he?

    Phelps: He resides in Rome, at the headquarters of the Jesuits, called the Church of Jesu. So, the Jesuit General resides in Rome at, what I just called, the Jesuit headquarters.

    Martin: The Church of Jesu, is that near the Vatican?

    Phelps: It’s not far from the Vatican, right. It’s in the same general area. It’s headquarters of the Knights of Malta.

    Martin: Is it part of Vatican City, proper?

    Phelps: Right, I believe, yes it is.

    Martin: Where does Satan fit into this picture, and what is the ultimate goal of the Jesuits, the so-called Society of Jesus?

    Phelps: The Jesuit General, and the other high Jesuit Generals, they are sorcerers. They are Luciferians, and they worship what they would call Lucifer. They do not believe in Satan. They believe in Lucifer.

    Now, according to Alberto Rivera, he was invited—because he was a top Jesuit at the time in the late ’60s—he was invited to a "Black Mass" in Spain where there were quite a few top Jesuit Generals present. And he called it a "Black Mass". Well, when you’re involved in a "Black Mass", you’re involved in the worship of Lucifer, all dressed in their black capes and so on.

    Martin: I’m fascinated by Count Hans Kolvenbach because nobody in the world knows who this person is. I’ve never heard the name.

    Phelps: Let me just tell you that you can see his picture and his top Jesuits—just a second and I’ll get the book. The name of the book is called Jesuits: A Multi-Biography, by Jean Lacoutre, and that is available, usually, in the bookstores. It was published in 1995.

    Jean Lacoutre is a Frenchman. He was a communist, is a communist. On the last page of the pictures in it, that is right adjacent to page 343, you see Peter Hans Kolvenbach. He’s the Jesuit General, and he looks like just a very evil individual. There’s a Black man, who’s a high Jesuit, he’s a 29 Superior Jesuit with his cosmopolitan General staff. One of the General staff looks like Ben Kingsley of Shindler’s List. There are six White men, and one Black man. And that’s his General staff.


    I was roflol at the phallics and um meaning it is a symbol for the penis, so what the hell does that mean? WE are worshipping or under the control of a freakin Penis? lol

    Also the Red Plus sign or cross across many of the flags and crests are from the Templar Knights originally.

    This to me seems like at the beg. of all of this what started out as GOOD was taken over by EVIL. There still is IMO two sides of these secret orginazations, Good and Evil both using the same names but having different agendas.

    It also seems to be leading back to ONE place and ONE thing, Egypt. Jerusalem, God, Jesus, Temple Mount aka (Mount Moriah), Solomon's Temple, Ten Commandments, The ARK.

    Oh the Tangled web one weaves when at first he tries to deceive.

    Messy.

    Peace
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