Michael Jackson -- Nazi Flick Fan?

edited January 1970 in News
Michael Jackson -- Nazi Flick Fan?
7/25/2010 8:10 AM PDT by TMZ Staff

Michael Jackson's ideal double feature -- an Adolf Hitler documentary with a Judy Garland chaser ... that's according to a video distributor who claims to have provided Jackson plenty of both.

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Norman Scherer tells the NY Post that MJ had a penchant for collecting Nazi documentaries. Scherer, who owns a videotape distribution company, says Jackson had a "really good collection" -- which included, "Nazis -- Of Pure Blood," "Oasis of the Zombies" and "Hitler's Children."

Scherer also claims Jackson enjoyed Judy Garland's TV specials and dramas depicting troubled boys in dysfunctional families.

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  • The above article links to this article in the NY Post:

    Jacko kicked backo with Nazi vids
    By JANET ROTH
    Last Updated: 7:24 AM, July 25, 2010
    Posted: 2:50 AM, July 25, 2010

    Hitler was his thriller.

    Michael Jackson had an unquenchable thirst for Nazi documentaries as well as Judy Garland TV specials and dramas depicting troubled boys in dysfunctional families.

    He displayed the tapes along the walls of his video vault at the Neverland ranch, according to the King of Pop's former movie peddler.

    "Michael Jackson was a very special client to me," said Norman Scherer, owner of a videotape distribution company in the 1990s.

    In 1995, Scherer was approached by a New Yorker looking to place big orders for a "famous" client -- as long as he could be discreet.

    "He had a really good collection," said Scott Schaffer, Jackson's former personal assistant, who hunted down Scherer to buy obscure titles. "I knew what [Jackson] wanted."

    As for the Hitler flicks -- which included such gems as "Nazis -- Of Pure Blood," "Oasis of the Zombies" and "Hitler's Children" -- Scherer assumed that the singer just loved the military garb and lockstep marching.

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  • DancingTheDreamDancingTheDream Posts: 4,923
    Michael was an avid reader and liked History... i also have read a lot about the second World War and Hitler.. doesnt make me a Nazi sympathizer.. with knowledge there is power... MJ chose to educate himself. I dont see why TMZ are making this an issue.

  • TMZ is not making this an issue, they are just spreading the BS posted by another news outlet, just like other news outlets have been spreading TMZ's BS (read: carefully compiled messages by MJ's script) since June 25 2009.

    Now just keep an eye on Google and watch how fast numerous news outlets are going to copy TMZ's article, you'll be amazed.

    Imagine TMZ running the Elvis and MJ story...and the snowball effect... <!-- s8-) -->8-)<!-- s8-) -->
  • HazzelyHazzely Posts: 1,443
    Oh God! So what if he had documentaries and watched those kind of movies? He wanted to educate himself more than he already was on that & we all know it
    Why do they always twist everything to confuse the people! They are now trying to say Michael was a huge fan of Hitler and nazism.

    This wasn't even relevant yet they still wanted to take advantage of it and make up another story!
    Will this never end? Huh.. <!-- s:cry: -->:cry:<!-- s:cry: -->

    Well screw that and screw TMZ
    That's why I don't like the media. Stop the flithy press!
  • DancingTheDreamDancingTheDream Posts: 4,923
    Ive done a search on Norman Scherer.. and it seems he is a real person who did indeed own a video store:

    Since Norman Scherer does business largely by phone and mail-he'll buy, sell, or trade a hard-to-find videotape whether you're calling from Brooklyn or Bhutan-it doesn't matter that his store, Video Oyster, is eccentric. Located in lower Manhattan, the place resembles a media-friendly M.C. Escher landscape: Byzantine passageways snake through towers of videotapes and pop- culture detritus. The walls are covered with New Orleans carnival masks, there's a Scrubbing Bubbles night-light in the bathroom, and rarities like Attack of the Crab Monsters sell for $500. A former staffer at Variety, the Manhattan native, 36, got into the rare- vid biz in 1989, when a store offered him $100 for a copy of Eraserhead. Realizing he could make money off video companies' failure to keep their back catalogs in stock, Scherer started buying up tapes from stores cleaning off their shelves. He now publishes three different collectors' newsletters-Pearls lists 7,000 rare tapes, Half Shell offers clearance bargains, and Raw Oysters compiles out-of-print adult videos. And despite his store's decidedly casual aura, business is great. He recently bought nine copies of 1972's Bluebeard- the one with a Joey Heatherton nude scene-for $100, and unloaded two for $75 each. He just sold a copy of the 1961 Nazi drama Operation Eichman to friends of star Werner Klemperer; it seems Colonel Klink's birthday is coming up. Fads come and go: Disney's recent remake of The Incredible Journey prompted a deluge of calls for the 1964 original. In fact, that company's fare is one of Scherer's staples. ''Disney fans want everything, even the garbage,'' he says. As Scherer speaks, the phone rings; it's answered by his girlfriend, Stella MacNicol, 36, a former pop star in South America. She listens, nods, and says to Scherer, ''I know we're out of Bambi, but what about The Little Mermaid?'' He pauses, then fires back, ''Little Mermaid, uh, $120.'' Ka-ching. Those seeking video arcana are advised to call first (Scherer's number is 212-480-2440) since his store is open to the public only on Wednesdays. That's when the nearby Wall Street businessmen come in and load up on porno. ''The rarest tapes in the country,'' he sighs, ''and they want T&A.''

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    But i also get this when i search his name, which is odd:

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  • GlindaGlinda Posts: 658
    I think Michael knows more about "The Brave New World" than most of us.
  • SarahliSarahli Posts: 4,265
    Maybe that we should read these books ?

    Edit: sorry these are videos <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: -->

  • Hitler's Children (1943)
    This propaganda piece starts in 1933. Prof. Nichols' American school in Berlin is next door to a school for the Hitler Youth. Karl, from the latter, is attracted to German-American Anna, but events lead to their separation. Later, at the outbreak of war in Europe, Anna is removed from Nichols' school on presumption of German citizenship. Nichols becomes obsessed with finding her, as Anna undergoes a rather lurid odyssey through the Hitler nightmare.


    Oasis of the Zombies (1983)
    Robert, a student at an English university, receives word of his father's unexpected death and returns home to Africa. While reading his father's dairies, Robert learns of the obsession that led to his death: $6,000,000 in Nazi gold that remains buried at an oasis in the Sahara desert, protected by the restless, rotting souls who died protecting it. Using his inheritance, Robert bands together with three fellow students to wrest the unclaimed fortune from the dunes of the dead!


    Nazis - Of Pure Blood [VHS] (1986):
    OF PURE BLOOD is a compelling drama detailing the horrific ramifications of the Nazis' Lebensborn programme.

    Lee Remick plays Alicia Browning, a successful New York casting director, who learns that her son (living in Germany) has been mysteriously killed. She gets another shock when she discovers that he fathered a daughter.

    Alicia travels to Germany, and uncovers the horrible truth: her granddaughter is embroiled in a revival of the 'Lebensborn' programme, used by the Nazis' during WW2 as a way of breeding perfect Aryan children (the master race). When Alicia discovers that she, too, was a product of the Lebensborn programme, she decides to smuggle her granddaugher out of Germany.

    Fine, well-written thriller/drama co-starring Patrick McGoohan, Gottfried John, Richard Munch, Katharina Bohm, Edith Schneider and Carolyn Nelson.
  • paula-cpaula-c Posts: 7,221
    That is about Judy Garland with this, apart from being the star of the Wizard of Oz and his addictions to drugs, and his untimely death. So says wikipedia;

    The demands of the MGM with his nervous breakdown and medication addictive
    And despite the success of Judy Garland constantly tended to suffer from frequent breakdowns : his sudden mood swings, anxiety attacks , its abundant and terrible bouts of depression are well known, and is also suspected that he suffered from hallucinations , so he had to go to therapy until the end. She was the golden vein of Metro Golden Mayer and looked to be an " Eternal Dorothy " and there were problems that were worsened by the fact that since the beginning of its contract with Metro Golden Mayer and to impose the frantic pace of a film after another without stopping , the Metro did not put a brake on abuse of his body, groped by an entertainment industry ( the managers and the studio hired at age 13 ) imposing the actress since her teens using drugs to stand for excessive hours of filming: we know that Metro provided for the young Garland constantly barbiturates to sleep the few hours of sleep at his disposal , amphetamines to get up and go back to work and more drugs to control their tendency to gain weight. Let's add them , and a growing amount of tranquilizers to withstand stress, and this was part of the contract. But the excesses of the Metro only deepened their crisis and Garland , this constant dose of drugs that had to consume to endure the relentless pace of work would take her to sharpen their mental disorder , anorexia , alcoholism, drug addiction and a lifelong struggle against his stormy life

    In July he returned to the Palace Theatre in New York, to perform 16 concerts with their children Lorna and Joey Luft . During these actions, Garland appeared with bright sequined gowns , costumes originally designed for the tape presonages Valley of the Dolls.[69] Since 1969, his health has declined more markedly. In that same year in the city of London , served for five consecutive weeks at the nightclub Talk of the Town[70] and in March made his last concert Copenhagen.[71] On March 17, 1969 she married businessman Mickey DeansIn the city of London,[72] Herron and his divorce took place on February 11 of that year.[73] Deans who was found dead on 22 June of that year in the bathroom because taking pills to sleep, barbiturates.[74] The official said the singer died of a cardiac arrest accidental. His funeral was attended by over 20,000 people who stayed for hours to lay the remains of Judy.[75] He is buried Ferncliff Cemetery , located in Hartsdale , New York

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    MGM was his drug supplier? .. the other sad face of the entertainment world.
  • heisinme09heisinme09 Posts: 494
    This morning, I was Googling to learn if there was anything new about that Tom Barrack/Rob Lowe Mega Million Media deal and was sent to a link on the NY Post that claims that Donald Trump is now joining them....the ribbon at the top of that web page showed this story about MJ & Hitler....this is CLASSIC MEDIA BS!....so why am I not surprised that TMZ immediately picked it up and ran with it?....this is a perfect example of the rampant yellow journalism that Michael faced his entire life and now "afterlife"....I haven't checked out the TMZ story yet, but does it also mention, like the NY Post article did, that Hitler was the inspiration for Michael's seeming obsession with the military and lockstep imagery? Talk about going for the jugular! YIKES!

    Again....we should always try to read between the lines...especially when things are at their most outrageous! Perhaps it's to grab our attention and re-energize our resolve to support and vindicate Michael's name!

  • Paula, we blogged about Judy Garland and the tragedies in her life back in November. For those who are interested: {http://doubledutchblogs.wordpress.com/2009/11/29/debunking-“wacko-jacko”-for-once-and-for-all/} Scroll down until you reach "Judy Garland ~ Over The Rainbow".
  • SarahliSarahli Posts: 4,265
    You know what my first feeling when I read this article was Army of LOVE !
  • heisinme09heisinme09 Posts: 494
    That is about Judy Garland with this, apart from being the star of the Wizard of Oz and his addictions to drugs, and his untimely death. So says wikipedia;

    The demands of the MGM with his nervous breakdown and medication addictive
    And despite the success of Judy Garland constantly tended to suffer from frequent breakdowns : his sudden mood swings, anxiety attacks , its abundant and terrible bouts of depression are well known, and is also suspected that he suffered from hallucinations , so he had to go to therapy until the end. She was the golden vein of Metro Golden Mayer and looked to be an " Eternal Dorothy " and there were problems that were worsened by the fact that since the beginning of its contract with Metro Golden Mayer and to impose the frantic pace of a film after another without stopping , the Metro did not put a brake on abuse of his body, groped by an entertainment industry ( the managers and the studio hired at age 13 ) imposing the actress since her teens using drugs to stand for excessive hours of filming: we know that Metro provided for the young Garland constantly barbiturates to sleep the few hours of sleep at his disposal , amphetamines to get up and go back to work and more drugs to control their tendency to gain weight. Let's add them , and a growing amount of tranquilizers to withstand stress, and this was part of the contract. But the excesses of the Metro only deepened their crisis and Garland , this constant dose of drugs that had to consume to endure the relentless pace of work would take her to sharpen their mental disorder , anorexia , alcoholism, drug addiction and a lifelong struggle against his stormy life

    In July he returned to the Palace Theatre in New York, to perform 16 concerts with their children Lorna and Joey Luft . During these actions, Garland appeared with bright sequined gowns , costumes originally designed for the tape presonages Valley of the Dolls.[69] Since 1969, his health has declined more markedly. In that same year in the city of London , served for five consecutive weeks at the nightclub Talk of the Town[70] and in March made his last concert Copenhagen.[71] On March 17, 1969 she married businessman Mickey DeansIn the city of London,[72] Herron and his divorce took place on February 11 of that year.[73] Deans who was found dead on 22 June of that year in the bathroom because taking pills to sleep, barbiturates.[74] The official said the singer died of a cardiac arrest accidental. His funeral was attended by over 20,000 people who stayed for hours to lay the remains of Judy.[75] He is buried Ferncliff Cemetery , located in Hartsdale , New York

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    MGM was his drug supplier? .. the other sad face of the entertainment world.

    Thanks for this, Paula...I'm a little confused why the pronoun, "he" is used throughout when referring to Judy Garland, but whatever....it is very true that Judy Garland was very similar to Michael in many ways...both positive and negative...born with ungodly (or shouldn't we say, "godly"?) talent....pushed by a domineering, abusive parent....performing from a wee, young age and supporting their family, even adults, along the way....in Judy's case, however, the drugs were supplied to her as a young teen to make her lose weight and keep her working long hours....she, like Michael, was DEFINITELY a Golden Vein....when you watch her Tour de Force performance in The Wizard of Oz, it is completely heartbreaking to learn about what was happening to her off set during the making of the film...and then when you watch her life play out.....(shaking head here).....truly, an American Tragedy....when she died at age 47, she looked 20 years older than that...poor, poor Judy! No wonder Michael could relate to her....it seems that he sought out others his whole life who had similar life experiences....but I guess all humans tend to do that....but in his case, he was so unique that others like him also had unique lives too....one of the best things I've ever seen about Judy's story was a mini-series called, "Me And My Shadow", starring Tammy Blanchard as the teen Judy and Judy Davis as the adult Judy....very well done....I highly recommend it to anyone with interest in her life.
  • DancingTheDreamDancingTheDream Posts: 4,923
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    The site has a facebook link <!-- m -->http://www.facebook.com/group.php?v=inf ... 4681452302<!-- m -->

    and here is Norman's account <!-- m -->http://www.facebook.com/group.php?v=inf ... 0511788787<!-- m -->

    He put vids of Michael in the group wall but i don't know if its the same Norman from the news

    Woah.. check out the wall to that facebook... Norman Schercher has posted a load of Michael Jackson vidoes!!!

    Another coincidence?
  • SarahliSarahli Posts: 4,265
    "Hitler's Children"... we know that Michael loves children and said that they are our future which is very true. In reality Hitler represents the contrary of what Michael is of course, as if it was necessary to say it <!-- s:oops: -->:oops:<!-- s:oops: --> but the "link" lies for example here with the children. They are the future and Hitler knew that, that's why he "cared" for them in his own way at an early age and it is still the case nowadays children are being taken care of by the governements not really by the families. They are being teached lies at school, God's law is almost totally forgotten, "ignorance of the law is no excuse" yes men-made laws are supposed to be known but God's laws are put aside which is absolutely not the right thing to do.
  • PJ4MJPJ4MJ Posts: 323

    Hitler's Children (1943)
    This propaganda piece starts in 1933. Prof. Nichols' American school in Berlin is next door to a school for the Hitler Youth. Karl, from the latter, is attracted to German-American Anna, but events lead to their separation. Later, at the outbreak of war in Europe, Anna is removed from Nichols' school on presumption of German citizenship. Nichols becomes obsessed with finding her, as Anna undergoes a rather lurid odyssey through the Hitler nightmare.


    Oasis of the Zombies (1983)
    Robert, a student at an English university, receives word of his father's unexpected death and returns home to Africa. While reading his father's dairies, Robert learns of the obsession that led to his death: $6,000,000 in Nazi gold that remains buried at an oasis in the Sahara desert, protected by the restless, rotting souls who died protecting it. Using his inheritance, Robert bands together with three fellow students to wrest the unclaimed fortune from the dunes of the dead!


    Nazis - Of Pure Blood [VHS] (1986):
    OF PURE BLOOD is a compelling drama detailing the horrific ramifications of the Nazis' Lebensborn programme.

    Lee Remick plays Alicia Browning, a successful New York casting director, who learns that her son (living in Germany) has been mysteriously killed. She gets another shock when she discovers that he fathered a daughter.

    Alicia travels to Germany, and uncovers the horrible truth: her granddaughter is embroiled in a revival of the 'Lebensborn' programme, used by the Nazis' during WW2 as a way of breeding perfect Aryan children (the master race). When Alicia discovers that she, too, was a product of the Lebensborn programme, she decides to smuggle her granddaugher out of Germany.

    Fine, well-written thriller/drama co-starring Patrick McGoohan, Gottfried John, Richard Munch, Katharina Bohm, Edith Schneider and Carolyn Nelson.

    These aren't even documentaries, but movies - or at best, docudramas. Just more media spin.

    NY Post article:
    "In 1995, Scherer was approached by a New Yorker looking to place big orders for a "famous" client -- as long as he could be discreet."

    I guess he needs to look the meaning of "discreet" up in the dictionary. Seriously, where do these people come from? Or even sadder, who tracks them down and considers this newsworthy? ...I know, I know. The almighty dollar.
  • heisinme09heisinme09 Posts: 494
    Another Huge MJ/Judy Connection....check out these two youtubes...I am sorry, but my computer is not letting me embed...if someone else could do it, I'd appreciate it!

    Judy Garland/"Get Happy"
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    Michael Jackson/"Dangerous" (1995 MTV Performance)
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    Yeah, I'd say MJ watched a little Judy on the side....
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    Peace!
  • suspicious mindsuspicious mind Posts: 5,984
    wasn't there a conversation in the rabbi's book with him asking michael something about him thinking he could have changed hitler (don't know if cahnged was the right word) and michael said something like yeah i don't think anybody talked to him or whatever?
  • paula-cpaula-c Posts: 7,221
    Thanks Mo and thanks heisinme09 <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
  • ForstAMoonForstAMoon Posts: 1,126
    Another Huge MJ/Judy Connection....check out these two youtubes...I am sorry, but my computer is not letting me embed...if someone else could do it, I'd appreciate it!

    Judy Garland/"Get Happy"
    <!-- m -->http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2U-rBZREQMw<!-- m -->

    Michael Jackson/"Dangerous" (1995 MTV Performance)
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    Yeah, I'd say MJ watched a little Judy on the side....
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    Peace!

    and performed also

    [youtube:27pw1wig]
  • suspicious mindsuspicious mind Posts: 5,984
    judy garland mother of liza minilli(sp)
  • heisinme09heisinme09 Posts: 494
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    Two Icons, Two Lives
    The parallels between Michael Jackson and Judy Garland are haunting.
    In the wake of Michael Jackson's death, I've found myself returning to the interview I did with Lorna Luft for my current book, The Lives Our Mothers Leave Us. She spoke poignantly and honestly about her mother, Judy Garland—the fame that came so early, the prescription drugs that also came early, and the people around her who cared more about her fame than her health. The parallels between Judy's life and Michael's are haunting.

    Like Michael Jackson, Judy Garland began performing as a child. Her talent was indisputable, a God-given gift that propelled her out of any kind of normal childhood and into a world of adults who knew her value and knew how to market her.

    Lorna told me that by the time Judy was a teenager, the cycle of pills had begun. Pills to keep her weight down, pills to help her sleep. They were provided by the studios and sanctioned by Judy's mother, who saw her daughter as a commodity, a paycheck. It was, in the end, what killed her.

    While we still don't know the complete autopsy findings on Michael Jackson, the flood of stories coming out about his dependency on prescription drugs can't be ignored. Uri Geller, a friend of Michael's, says the people around Jackson kept supplying him with medications— doctors, handlers, people who needed to protect their investment.

    The iconic nature of both Michael Jackson's and Judy Garland's careers puts them in rarified air. This is not just gossip-magazine fame. This is not ordinary people who stumbled into a hefty paycheck on a reality show and squeeze out every last drop from their 15 minutes in the spotlight.

    Those who are born with a towering talent, something that can't be contained or even understood, never have a chance at a normal life. The world grabs onto them early and can't get enough. The demands are daunting, the crowds are huge, the spotlight is blinding. There is little or no opportunity to grow slowly and organically into a knowledge of who can be trusted and who should be avoided.

    One of the most heartbreaking parts in Lorna's chapter is her recollection of her own efforts, as a young girl, to keep her mother from overdosing: "It was my responsibility as a kid to regulate her pills. I remember sitting in hotel rooms, opening capsules, emptying out the drugs, and filling the capsules with sugar. I was taught to never, ever call an ambulance no matter what happened. I was to call my father or someone else—NEVER an ambulance because it would get into the press."

    Therein lies the biggest danger of a life lived in so much brightness, with so many eyes watching—the fragility of a human being gets overlooked, even disregarded. Artists—true artists who arrive on this earth bearing gifts that make the rest of us stand in awe—often don't have tough skins and well-honed survival skills. They don't have the stamina of warriors, they have the souls of poets. And that makes them easy prey.

    There will always be doctors ready to write prescriptions for stars whose unearthly talent has placed them in a category all their own. There will always be managers, agents, investors who care more about the image than the human being. And when all the elements come together in a perfect storm of greed and mishandling, the rest of us will again grieve the passing of an artist whose work will endure for generations.

    Hopefully, some stories will end differently because someone will intervene, speak up sooner, reach through the glare of the spotlight and rescue a person who, while born with a talent that eclipses the sun, is still flesh and blood, is still just a human being who wants to create, and trust, and live.
  • GraceGrace Posts: 2,864
    If you want to defeat evil, you got to study it.
    If you want to defeat your enemies, keep them close.

    Everyone should watch Nazi documentaries.
    Repeatedly. For staying awake.
  • Bee BeeBee Bee Posts: 391
    wasn't there a conversation in the rabbi's book with him asking michael something about him thinking he could have changed hitler (don't know if cahnged was the right word) and michael said something like yeah i don't think anybody talked to him or whatever?

    Yeah, Michael said that he would have wanted to "hug" Hitler or something, that a tormented soul like his only needed love. He said he believed he could have changed him, yeah. He said that about a lot of criminals, not just Hitler. And he said that LMP didn't like that about him, she felt that criminals didn't deserve love. :
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