"For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."
omg stop with the head cropped on a body nonsense. The man probably ALWAYS wears shirts in California & Vegas, so his chest never gets any sun. That is why his face & neck (which are always exposed) are darker. Sorry to be rude but that's what happens whe one part of your body is exposed more to the sun than another part. I live in Seattle so I wear long pants most of the year. So when summer time rolls around & I put on shorts my legs look white compared to my tan arms & face, lol. Simple answer. No photoshop required. & this pic is soooo staged, he's pretty much posing for the picture. He's got to be an actor otherwise this sickens me. <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: -->
I'm one that would usually agree with you on the nonsense talk needing to stop but in the first picture, look at the arm that is holding the drink. It goes from light to dark to very light to very dark and the hand just looks odd. If you look at one of his pictures further down in the thread his arms don't seem to have the noticeable tan lines. Just saying that this time it does look odd, not that it's not him but something seems strange.
The other thing is that he always seems to be health conscience and in shape but in the picture with his son he's really put on the weight.
Another oddity - we saw the number 3 on the pool in yesterday's pool picture. Today the number 3 shows up on that guy holding his bag.
Last thing - that web site "got-fame" that is under construction...it says the copyright is from 2001-2009? Does this mean the website was never finished or is still being finished?
I googled and got this information:
Got FAME?
Got FAME Photography, jason v.,jason valdez, jason valdez photographer,los angeles photographer,music photographer,club photographer,balance los angeles, ...
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"Causality is a resource used by those people who are unable to find a coherent explanation situations seemingly without it. The more we learn we find less "coincidences", what happens?. "
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"For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."
I am not trying to be mean or anything but Conrad isn't sexy in anyway shape or form. He's also a horrible actor in the scheme of things. I am sure he was nervous so much so that he went drinking before he had help pull off the biggest hoax even done in the history of the world. Anyway! I am sure he's glad he can relax in a pool knowing that he really didn't kill MJ. I just hope that this all ends soon. Keep the Faith!
Murray's vacay can only last so long -- he's due in court to face involuntary manslaughter charges on August 23.
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3, 5, 7, 22, 111
7+ 3 + 1 + 2 + 1 + 1 + 2 + 5 = 22 - The 22 is also known as the Master Builder. It is potentially the most successful of all number and it can turn the most ambitious dreams into reality. The 22 has the intuitive insights of the 2 combined with the practicality of the 4.
The DOTS (acronyms) in this article are about how the US Government is controlling information being given to the media.
CMJWDODMA
CM - Content Management
Content management, or CM, is the set of processes and technologies that support the collection, managing, and publishing of information in any form or medium. In recent times this information is typically referred to as content or, to be precise, digital content. Digital content may take the form of text, such as documents, multimedia files, such as audio or video files, or any other file type which follows a content lifecycle which requires management. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Content_management
JW - Joint Warfare
Joint Warfare Centre Mission Overview - August 24, 2004 Changes to the NATO command structure
At the groundbreaking NATO summit at Prague in November 2002, Alliance leaders initiated ambitious changes to the NATO command structure that would focus the Alliance on the needs of the future. The focus of this rapid shift in traditional NATO thinking is an acknowledgement that the world has changed; technology moves at an ever-increasing pace and operational tasks are more varied, unexpected and demand far greater flexibility in approach.
New and more flexible structure
Approved at the Defence Minister Meeting in June 03, a demanding Transformational effort should provide the Alliance with a new and more flexible structure that will allow it to more efficiently address its rapidly evolving and expanding operational responsibilities. http://www.jwc.nato.int/category.php?categoryID=15
Please read the following article from JWC own website explaining how they are manipulating the media, training through simulating interviews, and briefing military personal on what to say, how to respond etc.
MEDIA TRAINING AT THE JOINT WARFARE CENTRE FOR TODAY'S OPERATIONAL ENVIRONMENT
November 5, 2008, by Inci Kucukaksoy The Joint Warfare Centre’s Media Simulation Team provides television media simulation and basic media training for commanders and their staffs during NATO Response Force (NRF) exercises and International Security Assistance Force (ISAF) mission rehearsals. The team falls under the JWC’s Joint Exercise Division. Although this capability is only two years old, the staff has already trained well over 100 senior leaders from all over Europe and their services are in constant demand.
In addition to the NRF and ISAF missions, the team has also supported exercises with the Joint Force Training Centre, the Maritime Component Command Headquarters Naples, and provided customized media training to the French Rapid Reaction Corps.
The media training sessions are tailored to each exercise or event, but there are some basics to each one. Normally, the commander and senior staff are provided a group briefing that sets the foundation for successful media encounters. This includes discussions on the importance of media in military operations, and, thus, the importance of media training as well as the development and delivery of critical messages. Practical interview techniques are also covered including interview planning, preparation and post-interview analysis.
In both interview settings, the key to success is advance preparation and practice. Preparing key messages that are backed with examples and personal experiences provide the strategic foundation for the interview. Practicing the deli?very of these messages in advance will allow for tactical success once the cameras are rolling.
In closure, the results of advanced media training can be seen at all levels, from junior staff officers in public affairs positions to senior commanders going into major operations. It is not unusual to see NATO Commanders and spokespersons trained by the JWC media training team on CNN, BBC or other international media outlets. Many attribute their success with real world media to the training they received from the JWC’s Media Simulation and Training team as well as exposure on the JWC’s media simulation “World News Today” during exercises and mission rehearsals.
MEDIA training and simulation remains a relatively new concept for many NATO member countries. It was not all that long ago that the media were considered the enemy; something to be avoided at all costs or at least kept at a safe distance. Much of this thinking stemmed from a perception that widespread media coverage of military operations was poor, inaccurate or both. However, military commanders have begun to realize the critical role the media plays in their operations, and as a result media training and simulation is now a highly demanded element of operational level training. Television, newspaper, radio and even the so-called “new media” of bloggers, independent journalists and web journalists are now simulated during many military exercises.
Consideration of the media is particularly important for NATO commanders, whose staffs come from 26 NATO member nations as well as multiple coalition and partner nations. The ability to successfully get a message out is much more critical when operating in such a diverse environment. There is a direct correlation between public perception of an operation and the level of support the people of the nation are willing to provide. Winning the hearts and minds of the people no longer just refers to the location in which the operation is ongoing, it is also essential to maintain the backing of the people of each nation providing support to the operation.
Maximizing the media and using it as a tool is not a new concept for our enemies, who have proven time and again to be quite masterful at using the media to further their agendas. Arguably, insurgents and terrorist groups are doing a far better job at using the media in their campaigns than many modern militaries around the world. After all, the root concept of terrorism is to inspire fear among the people. It is not the actual act, but the fear of the act that intimidates. Thus, the insurgents’ success cannot just be attributed to the conduct of attacks, but by making sure people are aware that they are capable of doing these acts, and they have successfully been able to do that through the media.
In the past, insurgent or terrorist vi?deos used to be very basic productions shot with low quality consumer camcorders. Today, however, many of these videos are shot on digital video and include flashy graphics and animations all designed to grab the viewers’ interest and keep their attention. This is a testament to the progression and effectiveness of the media that our enemies have quickly recognized.
It is also clear insurgents carefully time their operations, such as suicide attacks and bombings to garner the greatest amount of media coverage possible. They consider broadcast time lines, particularly in the nations they are targeting, as they plan their attacks to ensure news of their acts reach the largest possible audience. Their goal is to erode the support of each participating nation, resulting in the country pulling its troops out of the region, ultimately affecting NATO’s ability to sustain the operation.
In Afghanistan and Iraq, insurgents rarely deploy for an attack without a video camera. They are masters of marketing themselves, and the results have been quite effective, with the goal of intimidation achieved.
NATO has been challenged for some time to get messages out quickly after attacks have occurred. This is because of several factors. The insurgents are planning and conducting the attacks, so they will naturally come online faster with their statements. The insurgency also has a more streamlined chain of command, and is not tied down with the bureaucratic necessities of an organization like NATO, in which products such as press releases must be approved at multiple levels prior to release. And the insurgency is also not bound by the same rules as the military. They don’t have to check facts; they frequently make false statements that cannot be verified by the media, and yet are often still broadcast by many media outlets. Finally, bad news is more interesting to the media, and often NATO messages are overlooked in favour of more sensational stories.
With all that being said, this does not mean it is impossible to successfully interact with the media and thus get essential messages and stories out to the public. The first step is to understand how the media works and to be prepared for interaction and engagement. NATO military commanders have to treat the media like any other weapon system in their arsenal. Just like when a new aircraft is bought or a new tank is delivered, there is a plan for personnel, training and sustainment of that weapon system. A soldier would not deploy with a weapon he or she was not trained to use, and that is why media training prior to deployment is essential.
Journalists from all fields spend years training and perfecting their skills at asking provoking or pointed questions, therefore it stands to reason that military leaders should spend some time perfecting their communication skills to successfully handle these types of questions. It should not be assumed that a safe way around this is to have a Public Affairs officer handle these interviews. The PAO team is indeed a unit’s expert on dealing with the media, but they are not by any means the only people who are able to speak with the media. Reporters prefer to interview operators and news makers, not spokespersons. PAOs are good for background information and are key to setting up interviews, however, most reporters understand they can get better quotes or sound bites from those closely involved in an operation.
This is why media training prior to deployment is so essential for military commanders and their key leaders. A commander should not wait until the camera is running and a million people are watching to consider the importance of media training. By then it is too late, the damage is done, and it cannot be taken back.
The challenge for many of NATO’s senior leaders is that there are not many opportunities for structured media training. Some NATO nations provide it as a function of Staff College, but most do not. Media training has historically been considered a national responsibility, but most nations simply do not have the resources or the expertise to get to a level of training necessary to prepare them for real world media encounters. http://www.jwc.nato.int/article.php?articleID=355
DO - Directorate of Operation (US CIA)
CIA and the Media
The Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), America's intelligence agency, has made use of media assets, both foreign and domestic, for its covert operations. It was first reported on in the late 1960s, when it became known that that the Congress for Cultural Freedom was largely funded by the CIA. In 1973, the Washington Star-News reported that CIA had enlisted more than thirty Americans working abroad as journalists, citing an internal CIA inquiry ordered by CIA director William E. Colby. The Church Committee was the first congressional committee established in the 1970s to look specifically into the CIA's past activities. Some classified information in the (unpublished) report of the Pike Committee was leaked to The Village Voice, which showed more details on the CIA's media manipulation. The Committee mentioned that the: “CIA, as no doubt every other major intelligence agency in the world, has manipulated the media. Full-time foreign correspondents for major U.S. publications have worked concurrently for CIA, passing along information received in the normal course of their regular jobs and even, on occasion, travelling to otherwise non-newsworthy areas to acquire data. Far more prevalent is the Agency's practice of retaining free-lancers and "stringers" as informants...CIA acknowledges that "stringers" and others with whom the Agency has a relationship are often directed to insert Agency-composed "news" articles into foreign publications and wire services. U.S. intelligence officials do not rule out the possibility that these planted stories may find their way into American newspapers from time to time, but insist that CIA does not intentionally propagandize in this country." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CIA_and_the_media
CIA influence on Public Opinion
At various times, under its own authority or in accordance with directives from the President of the United States or the National Security Council staff, the Central Intelligence Agency has attempted to influence domestic and international public opinion, and sometimes law enforcement. This article does not address, other than incidental to influencing opinion or actions reasonably associated with CIA security, possibly illegal domestic surveillance.
It also does not address narrowly focused psychological warfare in support of covert or military action. The focus of this article is on long-term influence on opinion leaders, including journalists, artists, labor leaders, etc., rather than starting rumors to assist in supporting a coup.
This is an area with many shades of gray. There is little argument, for example, that the CIA acted inappropriately in providing technical support to White House operatives conducting both political and security investigations, with no legal authority to do so. While there is an established history of assigning responsibilities for international psychological operations to various organizations, depending if the operation is overt or clandestine, there are also questions of the wisdom of a particular operation.
Things become much more ambiguous when law enforcement may expose a clandestine operation, a problem not unique to intelligence but also seen among different law enforcement organizations, where one wants to prosecute and another to continue investigations, perhaps reaching higher levels in a conspiracy.
Not all inappropriate activities were initiated or conducted by the Central Intelligence Agency, but by other members of the United States Intelligence Community. In particular, the Federal Bureau of Investigation took a very broad view of its mandate to collect information to protect against domestic subversion. In other cases, the National Security Agency intercepted electronic communications without the warrants deemed necessary at the time.
It has been suggested that a number of things assigned to CIA really did not need to be clandestine, and having an overt organization support initiatives desired by the U.S. government has much less political risk. The United States Information Agency (USIA) has always been an overt white propaganda organization. Radio Free Europe and Radio Liberty, as distinct from the Voice of America (VOA), had been clandestinely funded through the CIA, but, with the VOA, now all come under the authority of a quasi-public corporation, the Broadcasting Board of Governors (BBG). BBG was part of USIA until 1999.
Another overt organization, the National Endowment for Democracy, was created in 1983. William Blum, an author and critic of the CIA and U.S. foreign policy, suggests it was set up to legally continue the CIA's prohibited activities of support to selected political parties abroad. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CIA_influence_on_public_opinion
How Americas Most Powerful News Media Worked Hand in Glove with the Central Intelligence Agency and Why the Church Committee Covered It Up THE CIA AND THE MEDIA - BY CARL BERNSTEIN http://tmh.floonet.net/articles/cia_press.html
Defense Media Activity
The Mission of the Defense Media Activity (DMA) is to provide a broad range of high quality multimedia products and services to inform, educate, and entertain Department of Defense audiences around the world.
Our Vision is to be a world-class multimedia organization that skillfully uses and teaches state-of-the-art communication tools and methods and is attuned to the needs of our clients and audiences.
DMA is the Department of Defense's direct line of communication for news and information to U.S. forces worldwide. The agency presents news, information and entertainment on a variety of media platforms, including radio, television, internet, print media and emerging media technologies. DMA informs millions of active, Guard and Reserve service members, civilian employees, contractors, military retirees and their families in the U.S. and abroad.
The DMA Logo symbolizes the organization’s mission of integrating the Defense Department’s worldwide media activity efforts. . The globe symbolizes a world-wide reach to the combined activities. The shield stands for defense, the camera lens is symbolic for media, and the color purple is representative of a joint military organization.
DMA is designed to modernize and streamline media operations by consolidating military service and DoD media components into a single, joint, integrated multimedia communications organization.
DMA was established in October 2008 as a result of the Defense Base Realignment and Closure Act. The agency consolidates the Soldiers Media Center, Naval Media Center, Marine Corps News, Air Force News Service and American Forces Information Service into a single field activity. DMA also includes Stars and Stripes newspaper and the Defense Information School.
In April 2009 DMA began construction of its new headquarters and production facility at Ft. Meade, Maryland. http://www.dma.mil/
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Pentagon Launches Probe into Document Leaks
By Army Sgt. 1st Class Michael J. Carden
American Forces Press Service
WASHINGTON, July 27, 2010 – The Pentagon has launched an investigation to find out how thousands of classified military documents were leaked to the group WikiLeaks.org, a Defense Department spokesman said.
The Army’s Criminal Investigation Division, also known as CID, is heading the investigation, Marine Corps Col. Dave Lapan told Pentagon reporters today. “An investigation has been initiated, [and] Army CID has the lead,” Lapan said. Having the Army take charge of the investigation doesn’t suggest that Army personnel are responsible for the leaks, Lapan explained. CID was chosen for its capabilities in such matters, he said. “[CID] is an investigative agency that has the ability, the capability, to do these types of things,” Lapan said. “There are a number of investigative agencies [within the Pentagon], but the decision was made that Army CID takes the lead.”
Army CID, he said, also is investigating the case of Army Spc. Bradley Manning, who has been charged with leaking a video of a U.S. helicopter attack in Iraq to WikiLeaks. The document leaks investigation is a continuation or extension of the existing open investigation on Manning, Lapan said. However, he added, the document leak investigation is “broader” than the Manning case.
“The current investigation into the leak of the documents to WikiLeaks isn’t focused on any one, specific individual,” Lapan said. “It’s much broader. They’re going to look everywhere to determine what the source may be.” Continued at: http://www.defense.gov/news/newsarticle.aspx?id=60187
Gates Unveils New Media Rules For Military
July 8, 2010
Defense Secretary Robert Gates and Adm. Mike Mullen, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, held a press briefing at the Pentagon on Thursday. Gates discussed new rules the Pentagon plans to enforce governing the way the military deals with the press. Gates and Mullen also announced their pick to head up the military's Central Command. Gen. Michael Mattis would replace Gen. David Petraeus, who now is leading the war effort in Afghanistan. http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=128391036
Defense secretary stands behind new media rules
July 8, 2010 - 5:06pm
Defense Secretary Robert Gates gestures a news conference at the Pentagon, Thursday, July 8, 2010.
By ANNE GEARAN
AP National Security Writer
WASHINGTON (AP) - New requirements that even top brass get Pentagon approval before talking to the press will not muzzle the media's watchdog role or stop soldiers on the front lines from speaking freely, Defense Secretary Robert Gates said Thursday.
Gates defended the directive issued last week but offered few new specifics about how it will work.
The brief, stern memo from Gates also restated prohibitions on release of classified material. But it is the requirement for pre-approval of media contacts that has raised free-speech concerns and sown confusion about what and who is covered.
"This is not about you. This is about us," Gates said during a Pentagon press conference. "This is about us doing things in an uncoordinated way. It is about people in this department speaking out on issues where they don't have all the facts, where they may not have the perspective."
The Pentagon chief said he issued the order because of his concern that the military has become "too lax, disorganized and in some cases flat-out sloppy" in dealings with the press.
Gates conceded that there will always be leaks _ his own memo on media engagement was leaked the day it went out to top military and civilian defense leaders _ and he implied that leaks have their place.
Media reports on shabby conditions at Walter Reed Army Medical Center and design flaws in equipment sent to the front lines in Iraq drew in part on anonymous tips, and Gates cited some of those reports as alarm bells he had used to make improvements.
He appeared sensitive to criticism that he is hiding bad news, including news from the stalemated war in Afghanistan. Pentagon officials have said that rules for reporters traveling with military units, called embedded reporters or embeds, will not be affected.
"If you're a captain in a unit that has an embedded reporter, as long as you're within the guidelines and the rules, we expect you to be open with that embedded reporter," Gates said.
"On the other hand, if you're a captain in this building, working on budget options, I expect you to keep your mouth shut."
(Copyright 2010 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.)
By ANNE GEARAN
AP National Security Writer
WASHINGTON (AP) - New requirements that even top brass get Pentagon approval before talking to the press will not muzzle the media's watchdog role or stop soldiers on the front lines from speaking freely, Defense Secretary Robert Gates said Thursday. Gates defended the directive issued last week but offered few new specifics about how it will work.
The brief, stern memo from Gates also restated prohibitions on release of classified material. But it is the requirement for pre-approval of media contacts that has raised free-speech concerns and sown confusion about what and who is covered. "This is not about you. This is about us," Gates said during a Pentagon press conference. "This is about us doing things in an uncoordinated way. It is about people in this department speaking out on issues where they don't have all the facts, where they may not have the perspective."
The Pentagon chief said he issued the order because of his concern that the military has become "too lax, disorganized and in some cases flat-out sloppy" in dealings with the press. Gates conceded that there will always be leaks _ his own memo on media engagement was leaked the day it went out to top military and civilian defense leaders _ and he implied that leaks have their place.
Media reports on shabby conditions at Walter Reed Army Medical Center and design flaws in equipment sent to the front lines in Iraq drew in part on anonymous tips, and Gates cited some of those reports as alarm bells he had used to make improvements. He appeared sensitive to criticism that he is hiding bad news, including news from the stalemated war in Afghanistan. Pentagon officials have said that rules for reporters traveling with military units, called embedded reporters or embeds, will not be affected.
"If you're a captain in a unit that has an embedded reporter, as long as you're within the guidelines and the rules, we expect you to be open with that embedded reporter," Gates said. "On the other hand, if you're a captain in this building, working on budget options, I expect you to keep your mouth shut." http://stage-v2.wtopnews.com/?nid=116&sid=1994821
From the title of the article:
Just What The Doctor Ordered Exactly what is wanted or needed. - In the view of the US Government, Elites etc. Total control of the media is what they need as a solution to controlling the information received by the public and the men/women in uniform.
I think you are looking for too into it. I'll rewrite the first letters of each word and say what I think.
CMJWDO. When you read that, you would say it like "See MJ W D O"
And when I read that I read it like "See MJ What Do." If you flip around the "wha"t, you can read it as "See What MJ Do" or "See MJ Do What."
It could be TMZ sending out hints that MJ [Michael Jackson] has a lot to do with what is posted about him on TMZ. That's just my two cents.
In Update #5, the first letter in each section title spelled out “Dots Of TMZ Show”. Also, the title itself had dots in it: DO you Think 4 your Self? Furthermore, as lilwendy figured out {http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=10929#p181681}, there were also “dots within the dots” (Dots Of TMZ Show). I’m not sure if anyone noticed that the last half of “DOTS” is “TS”.
“Dots Of TMZ Show” was the redirect for the Murray court day; and yes, TMZ did have a show on that day. However, this redirect referred to more than just the one day; it also refers to connecting the dots both before and after June 14.
When connecting dots, you can look for the first letter in each line—such as Serenitys_Dream and others have done. However, be sure to look for more than just the first letter in each line. Sometimes the message is in the pictures, or article titles, etc. In fact, sometimes the dots are in articles which are not even MJ related—such as the “Still Alive” heading, on the 6-14 Murray court day {http://www.tmz.com/2010/06/14/england-goalie-robert-green-world-cup-photo-soccer/}.
As stated in Update #5c, however, TMZ dots are not the basis for believing in the hoax; so don’t use these as “proof” for non-believers. The TMZ show dots are hints and clues for those who already know that MJ is “still alive”.
In Update #5, the first letter in each section title spelled out “Dots Of TMZ Show”. Also, the title itself had dots in it: DO you Think 4 your Self? Furthermore, as lilwendy figured out {http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=10929#p181681}, there were also “dots within the dots” (Dots Of TMZ Show). I’m not sure if anyone noticed that the last half of “DOTS” is “TS”.
“Dots Of TMZ Show” was the redirect for the Murray court day; and yes, TMZ did have a show on that day. However, this redirect referred to more than just the one day; it also refers to connecting the dots both before and after June 14.
When connecting dots, you can look for the first letter in each line—such as Serenitys_Dream and others have done. However, be sure to look for more than just the first letter in each line. Sometimes the message is in the pictures, or article titles, etc. In fact, sometimes the dots are in articles which are not even MJ related—such as the “Still Alive” heading, on the 6-14 Murray court day {http://www.tmz.com/2010/06/14/england-goalie-robert-green-world-cup-photo-soccer/}.
As stated in Update #5c, however, TMZ dots are not the basis for believing in the hoax; so don’t use these as “proof” for non-believers. The TMZ show dots are hints and clues for those who already know that MJ is “still alive”.
I'm noy trying to disrespect you or anything.
I don't really follow TS or Thisisalsoit. I think whoever that person is just confuses me a little too much and sees too far into things and can even post things that are mere coincidental. Coincidences DO still exist, they aren't going away because we believe otherwise of something, they will always be present. Anyway, I heard about your dilemma with Sony and your videos, Serenity, and good luck.
I don't really follow TS or Thisisalsoit. I think whoever that person is just confuses me a little too much and sees too far into things and can even post things that are mere coincidental. Coincidences DO still exist, they aren't going away because we believe otherwise of something, they will always be present.
The statements in your post are your beliefs based on your perspective. This does not mean that they are correct or incorrect. They are based on what you know and believe but they are not my truth.
TS does not confuse me at all and I don't think that they see too much in things either. I believe they reveal to us the reasons for the hoax.
As for coincidences, I don't believe they exist. Everything happens for a reason. Even if you believe in coincidences, how many coincidences does it take before things are no longer considered a coincidence? In the case of this hoax, there have been far too many so called coincidences for things to have occurred randomly.
Each and every one of us is entitled to believe whatever we like but none of us has the divine knowledge to know whether what we believe is the ultimate truth.
"Causality is a resource used by those people who are unable to find a coherent explanation situations seemingly without it. The more we learn we find less "coincidences", what happens?. " <!-- s --><!-- s -->
Wonder if they have left? I have an itch to go visit the hotel tomorrow. I want to see him in person. MJ had many ties to Miami . Save up the bond money in case I get arrested for stalking. <!-- s --><!-- s -->
Wonder if they have left? I have an itch to go visit the hotel tomorrow. I want to see him in person. MJ had many ties to Miami . Save up the bond money in case I get arrested for stalking. <!-- s --><!-- s -->
You live in Miami?? YES!! Go there and see if he's there. I bet he isn't.
"For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."
I noticed something, this post wasn't filed under "Michael Jackson" it was only filed under "Conrad Murray" unlike the last article "Son On a Beach" was filed under Conrad Murray and Michael Jackson. Maybe they didn't put this there, because they want to keep the article about the new album at the top of the MJ category page? <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? -->
There are so many collages of faces all over this pic. On the guys leg there are a bunch....also on CM's right arm it looks like a signature of some sort, but I can't make out what it says. There is a face right at the gap by his receding hairline. I'm also seeing an M that is upside down in white on the right arm. There are also symbols, letters? on his neck face. I have to move my laptop in different angles to see different things. Anyone else see anything on this pic? Or is it just me?
There are so many collages of faces all over this pic. On the guys leg there are a bunch....also on CM's right arm it looks like a signature of some sort, but I can't make out what it says. There is a face right at the gap by his receding hairline. I'm also seeing an M that is upside down in white on the right arm. There are also symbols, letters? on his neck face. I have to move my laptop in different angles to see different things. Anyone else see anything on this pic? Or is it just me?
I think you are looking for too into it. I'll rewrite the first letters of each word and say what I think.
CMJWDO. When you read that, you would say it like "See MJ W D O"
And when I read that I read it like "See MJ What Do." If you flip around the "wha"t, you can read it as "See What MJ Do" or "See MJ Do What."
It could be TMZ sending out hints that MJ [Michael Jackson] has a lot to do with what is posted about him on TMZ. That's just my two cents.
I agree with you.
I also read it similar to the old addage WWJD (What Would Jesus Do) which some have taken to apply to Michael... WWMJD and like you said, when you verbalise the letters, C MJ W DO, See MJ Wwwwwwould Do...
Murray is spending time with his son, being a good father. Yet all we hear about is how he's behind on child support, a dead-beat Dad.
Michael is a great father, yet all we hear about is baby balcony dangling, skin color, and veil wearing.
Fascinating that Murray has an outie belly button.
teine21...yes...I'm totally serious...I can't see it as well right now (I'm sitting outside) but when I was in my living room with a lamp on, I could see it well. Maybe with less light you will be able to see it. Unless I am completely hallucinating...but I don't just see one thing...I see SO MANY...that I don't think it's "just seeing objects in the clouds". I have smartboard software that allows me to zoom in without it getting pixelly. I will see if I can circle a few things and repost....the only bad thing is you can only upload a lower quality picture, so it might now show...but I will give it a try.
teine21...yes...I'm totally serious...I can't see it as well right now (I'm sitting outside) but when I was in my living room with a lamp on, I could see it well. Maybe with less light you will be able to see it. Unless I am completely hallucinating...but I don't just see one thing...I see SO MANY...that I don't think it's "just seeing objects in the clouds". I have smartboard software that allows me to zoom in without it getting pixelly. I will see if I can circle a few things and repost....the only bad thing is you can only upload a lower quality picture, so it might now show...but I will give it a try.
Not trying to offend, but you are definitely hallucinating. Maybe it's a little too late where you are and you're tired and your eyes are playing tricks on you.
teine21...yes...I'm totally serious...I can't see it as well right now (I'm sitting outside) but when I was in my living room with a lamp on, I could see it well. Maybe with less light you will be able to see it. Unless I am completely hallucinating...but I don't just see one thing...I see SO MANY...that I don't think it's "just seeing objects in the clouds". I have smartboard software that allows me to zoom in without it getting pixelly. I will see if I can circle a few things and repost....the only bad thing is you can only upload a lower quality picture, so it might now show...but I will give it a try.
Not trying to offend, but you are definitely hallucinating. Maybe it's a little too late where you are and you're tired and your eyes are playing tricks on you.
I'm not offended...but I've seen it all day long....hopefully this helps...try looking at different angles... there are many more as well, but there are so many on top of one another....especially on that guys leg........I promise I'm not crazy! (or maybe I am and just don't know it!) <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
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The photographer...
"For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."I'm one that would usually agree with you on the nonsense talk needing to stop but in the first picture, look at the arm that is holding the drink. It goes from light to dark to very light to very dark and the hand just looks odd. If you look at one of his pictures further down in the thread his arms don't seem to have the noticeable tan lines. Just saying that this time it does look odd, not that it's not him but something seems strange.
The other thing is that he always seems to be health conscience and in shape but in the picture with his son he's really put on the weight.
Another oddity - we saw the number 3 on the pool in yesterday's pool picture. Today the number 3 shows up on that guy holding his bag.
Last thing - that web site "got-fame" that is under construction...it says the copyright is from 2001-2009? Does this mean the website was never finished or is still being finished?
I googled and got this information:
Got FAME?
Got FAME Photography, jason v.,jason valdez, jason valdez photographer,los angeles photographer,music photographer,club photographer,balance los angeles, ...
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I bet that Fame photographer was a woman, Murray is pulling his sexy look here <!-- s
"For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."I think you are looking for too into it. I'll rewrite the first letters of each word and say what I think.
CMJWDO. When you read that, you would say it like "See MJ W D O"
And when I read that I read it like "See MJ What Do." If you flip around the "wha"t, you can read it as "See What MJ Do" or "See MJ Do What."
It could be TMZ sending out hints that MJ [Michael Jackson] has a lot to do with what is posted about him on TMZ. That's just my two cents.
Really, well I disagree and apparently so does TS...
http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=11061
I'm noy trying to disrespect you or anything.
I don't really follow TS or Thisisalsoit. I think whoever that person is just confuses me a little too much and sees too far into things and can even post things that are mere coincidental. Coincidences DO still exist, they aren't going away because we believe otherwise of something, they will always be present. Anyway, I heard about your dilemma with Sony and your videos, Serenity, and good luck.
The statements in your post are your beliefs based on your perspective. This does not mean that they are correct or incorrect. They are based on what you know and believe but they are not my truth.
TS does not confuse me at all and I don't think that they see too much in things either. I believe they reveal to us the reasons for the hoax.
As for coincidences, I don't believe they exist. Everything happens for a reason. Even if you believe in coincidences, how many coincidences does it take before things are no longer considered a coincidence? In the case of this hoax, there have been far too many so called coincidences for things to have occurred randomly.
Each and every one of us is entitled to believe whatever we like but none of us has the divine knowledge to know whether what we believe is the ultimate truth.
"Causality is a resource used by those people who are unable to find a coherent explanation situations seemingly without it. The more we learn we find less "coincidences", what happens?. " <!-- s
You live in Miami?? YES!! Go there and see if he's there. I bet he isn't.
"For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."There are so many collages of faces all over this pic. On the guys leg there are a bunch....also on CM's right arm it looks like a signature of some sort, but I can't make out what it says. There is a face right at the gap by his receding hairline. I'm also seeing an M that is upside down in white on the right arm. There are also symbols, letters? on his neck face. I have to move my laptop in different angles to see different things. Anyone else see anything on this pic? Or is it just me?
Umm, are you serious? <!-- s:| -->:|<!-- s:| -->
I agree with you.
I also read it similar to the old addage WWJD (What Would Jesus Do) which some have taken to apply to Michael... WWMJD and like you said, when you verbalise the letters, C MJ W DO, See MJ Wwwwwwould Do...
Murray is spending time with his son, being a good father. Yet all we hear about is how he's behind on child support, a dead-beat Dad.
Michael is a great father, yet all we hear about is baby balcony dangling, skin color, and veil wearing.
Fascinating that Murray has an outie belly button.
Not trying to offend, but you are definitely hallucinating. Maybe it's a little too late where you are and you're tired and your eyes are playing tricks on you.
I'm not offended...but I've seen it all day long....hopefully this helps...try looking at different angles... there are many more as well, but there are so many on top of one another....especially on that guys leg........I promise I'm not crazy! (or maybe I am and just don't know it!) <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
Good to hear....it's been a bit lonely being the lone "face-spotting" crazy... <!-- s