TIAI August 2
francina_84
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Again, the redirect from 29th of July. <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
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Now the redirect is, again: viewtopic.php?f=72&t=12784&start=25#p213790
EDIT 2: ten minutes passed, and there is again the redirect viewtopic.php?f=72&t=12813#p214300
great job Grace! can't believe the dna link didn't cross my mind... it has been working too sluggishly to connect the dots :S
seems like it's coming together! with the Bobby Fischer redirect and people popping out of nowhere claiming to be MJ's children, plus Eliza's court case, seems like digging graves is the direction we're heading!
this is truly exciting!! can't wait for it all to unfold <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->
Again, the redirect from 29th of July. <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
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Now the redirect is, again: viewtopic.php?f=72&t=12784&start=25#p213790
I am saddened to see that on many occasions TS' words are twisted or mistaken, and that the credibility of TS is questioned time after time due to the simple fact that people don't actually READ TS' posts...
Yes, the posts are long and sometimes you have to read them more than once to understand what is actually written, but if you just briefly read them, you are missing a lot of things and eventually you are missing the point.
All I'm asking is: please take some time to read these posts again, or if you don't want to read, take the time to watch the videos Souza is creating of TS' posts, which are published here: <!-- l -->viewtopic.php?f=72&t=12603<!-- l -->
Thank you...
EDIT 2: ten minutes passed, and there is again the redirect viewtopic.php?f=72&t=12813#p214300
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Does it make any sense?
(or maybe I'm just going crazy <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: --> )
Today I haven't seen it (or maybe I've lost it).
Maybe some people are questioning the credibility of TS without having read the posts, they are judging without knowing its contents, or expect to come Michael himself and explain to them that question. TS has spoken the truth, because a thought is true when it coincides with reality, and if those who have not read the posts of TS do you will realize this.
"If you want to convince someone of your ideas, first convince your friends" (Abraham Lincoln).
If Michael's message has not arrived or has convinced us, his friends, how is going to get to other people?
So, the part about coming out of graves has been mentioned very early on by TS. If i correctly assume that the hoax 'plan' is going to mirror This Is It, the 'movie', then MJ (& perhaps even Elvis) are going to be 'resurrected' by halving their graves dug. Of course this hasn't happened yet and perhaps TS is redirecting to the grave digging post before it happens and that would again, proving that he has inside information.
I'm thinking the phases of 'Resurrection, Return, and Revealed' differ for believers and non-believers. For believers, since we believe early on that MJ is alive, Resurrection for us was 9-9-09, as TS explained, and now we're in the Return process but Bam [Reveal(?)] has not occurred. For non-believers, who believe MJ is dead, and if the hoax 'plan' is parallel to the movie, then 'Resurrection' would be exactly what it is, MJ coming out of the grave.
(disclaimer: could be completely off-track about TS's intentions for the redirects <!-- s:( -->:(<!-- s:( --> )
What's the URL of the redirect Gema..? Is it this one?
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For me it keeps switching between the posts by Jukebox and myself, the ones that were redirected to yesterday also.
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Re: redirect 7/27
No Gema, I understand why you got that 'redirect'. When you go to <!-- m -->http://www.thisisalsoit.com<!-- m --> the first thing that it shows you is Mo's screenshot, BUT you must wait until the page is completely loaded... and then you have the right redirect...
Good points on your interpretation of these redirects. IMO, there has to be a reason for the repeating that we are just not understanding yet. Is is a countdown to something...3...2...1... ? Does it concern the dates or times posted, etc. ? TS, have you perhaps added something new to the old updates that we need to discover; is there something, say, similar to an Easter egg in the TIAI updates, for instance?
I'm probably way out in left field on this, but these thoughts crossed my mind today... <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
This is what I understand also, because otherwise it would make no sense to switch between the 2 posts constantly. Their message could be very well understood if they were displayed separately, in two distinct redirects (one for each day, as usual). I think the main idea is that we are misinterpreting the redirections and words of TS and we should look for the answers in his previous posts. Considering the post of JukeBox, maybe it was chosen by TS because it comprises the feeling and beliefs of the majority lately, which is expecting for Michael to be "exhumed" in order to have a BAM. Maybe, only maybe, this is not the key, and the connection to Elvis/Eliza and Bobby Fischer is not regarding "digging graves". It is an option we didn't really want to approach, because to all of us this scenario (exhumation-revelation) seemed so appropriate, Biblical and even typical for Michael. But maybe TS wants to point out other connections or ideas, such as the curious way in which all the claims of alleged children of Michael are being dismissed, with no explanations or further investigations, while in other cases the claims were investigated and pursued up to exhumation and without solid evidence, just based on presumptions. .
For example, in Fischer's case, "Fischer's estate was estimated at 140 million ISK (about GBP 1 million or US$ 2 million) and it quickly became the object of a legal battle involving claims from four parties: Fischer's apparent Japanese wife Miyoko Watai, his presumed Philippine daughter Jinky Young and her mother Marilyn Young, his two American nephews Alexander and Nicholas Targ and their father Russell Targ, and the American government (claiming unpaid taxes).[
According to a press release issued by Samuel Estimo, an attorney representing Jinky Young, the Supreme Court of Iceland ruled in December 2009 that Watai's claim of marriage to Fischer was invalidated because of her failure to present the original of their alleged marriage certificate.
On June 16, 2010, Iceland's Supreme Court ruled in favor of a petition on behalf of Jinky Young to have Bobby Fischer's remains exhumed. This was performed on July 5, 2010 in the presence of a doctor, a priest and other officials. A DNA sample was taken and Fischer's body was then reburied."
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Maybe we are missing the point in these redirects. In all the cases involving Michael and his alleged "love children", the immediate negative resolutions of the claims just make you feel like there is someone behind the curtain who can say from the spot true or false and no further investigation is performed. Who can tell for sure that the claim is abusive other than the father himslef?
It is just an opinion, the main idea is that we have to re- read TS's posts over and over again, until we get the point. He only said through his redirects that the BAM will come regardless of our readiness and this will legitimize TS, so he can continue his quest for truth and change. Maybe we should not put all our hopes and energies in the "exhumation" scenario and keep our minds opened, trying to understand the true depth of TS's posts and connecting the time dots...
LOVE,
Andy
LOVE,
Andy
Was MJHD the first name for what is now this site? S.T.U.D.Y. posted there (according to Revealed Part 1) - is it still possible to see those posts as I can't seem to find them? Am I right that MJHD closed on 4th Aug 2009?
Did it then become MJKIT? What do those initials stand for?
Did that then become MJDHI, as it is now, in November 2009?
TIAI started in December 2009. Was this the first appearance of TS and the 9 parts of Revealed? When did redirects start?
Sorry for all the questions but I want to know more of the background to all this.
I tend to agree with you...maybe the digging graves interpretation of the 7/28 redirect is what TS is trying to correct.
No. MJKIT is a forum that was started by Souza in the end of July in 2009, as a back up forum just in case MJHD would close down. MJ stands for Michael Jackson, KIT stands for Keep In Touch.
No, MJKIT and MJHD have always been 2 separate forums. After MJHD went down in November Souza and I created Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators and included the MJKIT forum. When we realized that MJKIT wasn't functioning to our full satisfaction within our new website we installed a new forum (this one), and kept MJKIT as an online archive.
If my memory doesn't fail me, TIAI started on October 29, 2009. The first redirect was to MJHD. The first appearance of TS was on December 22 2009, and it was here on Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators. The first post made by TS is called "TIAI Revealed, Part 1: Who Is Behind TIAI?".
I hope the above answered your questions.
I read ALL of TS's 22 posts over the last 3 days... I have a headache! LOL Just kidding!
If you want to refer to the long post here it is: http://wp.me/pGwtF-nN
Here’s the summary (and please keep in mind that a summary of 22 posts is still going to be LONG) <!-- s
Even if you still believe that MJ is dead (or alive, but will never come back): the basic message is still just as important. So please don’t let doubt, as to whether MJ is still alive, stop you from helping to “heal the world”.
Who is TS?
TS = S.T.U.D.Y. from the old MJHD site
Not MJ!
Watch for TS predictions that come true as proof of his/her validity
Do NOT waste time trying to figure out who TS is.
Investigation
Good investigators do not dismiss ANY avenue of investigation unless there is very solid evidence that it is not valid.
All information is there… it’s just waiting to be found.
We need a clear understanding of the evidence to determine if the information is valid.
Oppositions to anything should be backed by solid evidence… not mere opinion.
For those who want to go by truth, and not mere feelings, you need to base things on evidence. Truth can stand up to the test of evidence.
Do not trust the source of any evidence in any matter, trust the evidence itself.
The truth has nothing to lose by close examination: the “truth will prevail”!
Preparation for the BAM
We must put all the TIAI redirects together like pieces in a puzzle to get the big picture.
Help hoax believers understand the situation and message
We HAVE to understand the NWO conspiracy aspect and the importance of it before we are truly ready for a return.
THERE IS NO KNOWN BAM DATE, RETURN DATE, ETC. MJ WILL COME “IN HIS OWN TIME”.
We need to gather around MJ by joining MJ’s Army of LOVE
We need to love and support MJ AS WELL AS EACH OTHER!!
We must study the Bible so we will not be led astray by counterfeits.
We as soldiers in MJs Army of LOVE NEED to embody the following: truth, righteousness, peace, faith, salvation and the Word of God.
The Message
Let’s start spending more time trying to reach ourselves and others with MJ’s message.
The government is corrupted and we should not be afraid.
An educated public can stop them in their tracks.
The world is in desperate need of a wakeup call – end of the world
We must be aware of the corruption in government AND media and free ourselves through education.
Michael is being used by God in His battle against evil conspiracies in this world
The reason for this whole plan and hoax is to help save people from the many problems in this world; love is the reason, love is the answer.
MJ plans to turn the NWO upside down with the hoax
There are examples of government conspiracy and when you know too much, they silence you – JFK , JFK Jr., Pearl Harbour, RFK, MLK, Princess Di, 911, Titanic, etc.
LOVE GOD AND LOVE OTHERS.
We must study our Bibles and know the signs of the end times.
The Son of Man will come when we least expect it.
People will make fun and scoff at those who believe in the end of the world.
Many people are refusing to believe in the end of the world, merely because they don’t want to believe it—not because it isn’t true (or a lack of evidence). But who are the bigger fools: the ones who believe and are ready, yet it does not come—or the ones who don’t believe and are not ready, and then it does come??
The end of the world is not a bad thing.
The need for us all to have more LOVE in our lives—not just a word, not just a four-letter acronym (L.O.V.E.), but the real thing
Part of what MJ is trying to teach us is we are not to blindly trust tabloid media—or even mainstream media. Yet, just like TMZ, at times there is reliable and valuable information in the media.
So don’t accept something just because TIAI says it; but on the other hand, don’t fail to distinguish between reliable and unreliable sources and documentation. Rejecting reliable information isn’t much if any better (maybe worse) than accepting unreliable information. Some people believe everything (gullible), others believe nothing (stubborn); if we want the truth, we must find a balance between those extremes.
The Return/BAM
Helping hoax believers understand the situation will create a safer environment for MJ to return and be backed up by MJ’s Army of LOVE.
Once the opposition to MJ’s message has gone, MJ will be ready to return.
To do a hoax to expose government and media corruption is playing with fire.
He HAS to be careful when and how he returns.
We need to allow him the space to determine when and how the return will happen.
Promote <!-- m -->http://www.elvisandmj.com<!-- m -->
Draw a connection between Elvis hoax death and MJ hoax death
Unify and mobilize MJs Army of L.O.V.E.
DNA evidence in court is realistic and undeniable. We must embrace this opportunity to link with these DNA cases and inspire those to exhume MJ’s body (to find out IT’S NOT THERE!)
TS has already proven him/herself and is now asking us to tweet about ElvisandMJdotcom. We should support.
The media should take notice.
Army of LOVE needs to rally behind a media tweetathon
If we do this all for God’s glory, we will not fail!
This is a critical point for the hoax and in end times.
MJ will return… there is a deadline of sorts.
TS is credible as he/she’ s proven him/herself with predictions. Stop doubting, start believing!
Original post: http://lilwendy.wordpress.com/2010/08/03/results-of-my-review/
I have been reading TS Updates again now for the past few days and "boning" up on alot of things. <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) -->
Although I always read the Updates at least twice when they are 1st posted.....it is really worthwhile re-reading them again with fresh eyes if you have had a break since you last read them. It is incredible the new information you may pick up within them with a bit of time and space - things you may have missed the 1st time.