the autopsy of Tupac is FAKE...What Puff says is true. <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
LOL Have you ever seen Tupac's autopsy report? It's even more ridiculous than MJ's.. they claim Tupac weighed 215lbs <!-- s --><!-- s --> <!-- s --><!-- s --> <!-- s --><!-- s --> <!-- s --><!-- s --> <!-- s --><!-- s --> <!-- s --><!-- s --> <!-- s --><!-- s --> <!-- s --><!-- s --> and was 6ft tall <!-- s --><!-- s --> <!-- s --><!-- s --> <!-- s --><!-- s --> there's no way that scrawny little dude was even a buck sixty soaking wet and he wasn't anywhere near 6ft tall.
Nothing more refreshing than his poorly photoshopped autopsy photo..
LOL, where can I find that autopsy report?
"For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."
Tupacs last album recorded before his death was entitled The Don Killuminati: The 7 day theory. Nothing was ever explained in regards to the title but here are the strange facts surrounding the number 7 and the album in general.
* Tupac survived the shooting exactly 7 days
* Tupac died at 4:03, 4+3=7
* Tupac died at the age of 25, 2+5=7
* Tupac died in 1996, 9+9+1+6=25, 2+5=7
* The gunman shot 12-13 times, 1+2=3, 1+3=4, 4+3=7
* In the movie gang related Tupac played a cop with the badge number 115, 1+1+5=7
* Inside of the album cover it does not say R.I.P. to Tupac anywhere. All it says is exit Tupac enter Makeveli.
* The executive producer is listed only as Simon
* In the 7th song on the album White manz world Tupac says “Were never gonna walk off this planet till yall choose to”
* The album was released exactly 7 months after his previous album All Eyez On Me
* The cover of the album depicts Tupac being crucified.
the autopsy of Tupac is FAKE...What Puff says is true. <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
LOL Have you ever seen Tupac's autopsy report? It's even more ridiculous than MJ's.. they claim Tupac weighed 215lbs <!-- s --><!-- s --> <!-- s --><!-- s --> <!-- s --><!-- s --> <!-- s --><!-- s --> <!-- s --><!-- s --> <!-- s --><!-- s --> <!-- s --><!-- s --> <!-- s --><!-- s --> and was 6ft tall <!-- s --><!-- s --> <!-- s --><!-- s --> <!-- s --><!-- s --> there's no way that scrawny little dude was even a buck sixty soaking wet and he wasn't anywhere near 6ft tall.
Nothing more refreshing than his poorly photoshopped autopsy photo..
Souza do not know if you've seen this video, is a short interview with the doctor who made the autposia to Tupac.
He says things like he did not know who it was, talk about interesting things about the weight and body length, and that the autopsy report is not public because the case remained unsolved.
Well I read through all 9 parts of TIAI revealed. While I am a possible hoax believer, that was a massive waste of time and complete and utter nonsense. So someone is being creative with some redirects, and suddenly everyone believe this person KNOWS something? Give me a break.
Well I read through all 9 parts of TIAI revealed. While I am a possible hoax believer, that was a massive waste of time and complete and utter nonsense. So someone is being creative with some redirects, and suddenly everyone believe this person KNOWS something? Give me a break.
Your comment is "interesting", we must be looking at TS posts with totally different "eyes" because my conclusions are exactly the opposite to yours.
Whilst I agree that some of the re-directs can be open to interpretation at time (Finding the Truth is part of the learning process), the well planned structure of the updates, the logic supporting the "hoax" numerology, the timing of some re-directs and their content are clearly more than mere coincidences!
In addition, this post from "Back" on 18/02/09" does leave very little (if any <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) --> ) doubts in my mind that "TS" is an integral part of the Hoax...
Well I read through all 9 parts of TIAI revealed. While I am a possible hoax believer, that was a massive waste of time and complete and utter nonsense. So someone is being creative with some redirects, and suddenly everyone believe this person KNOWS something? Give me a break.
You say that you are a potential hoax believer. Can you please tell us what are the reasons that can possibly make you believe that this is a hoax?
TS creative? Yes certainly it requires creativity together with lot of thinking and a lot of sense too.
I'm sorry to say that but you are acting as many have already done by gratuitously "criticizing" TS. You just claim that this is "complete and utter nonsense" but you actually don't prove it. Can you explain in what it is a complete nonsense please?
While some people will say that 1+1=2 others will say that 1+1=11. It certainly depends on the context and the perspective in which things are 'studied', both can be true but it has to be explained in order to be comprehended and this is what TS has done, the information he has provided can be further investigated by ourselves and TS made a point to tell us to do it. Who would do that? On the contrary you have not proven him being wrong, we have no information from your part contradicting TS' information that we could investigate ourselves too.
But if this is really the final conclusion that you have ended up with after reading these posts the last thing we can do is just wait and see for The Truth to prevail.
There is nothing to disprove. You can't prove a negative. What makes me a hoax believer is the lack of evidence, the ambulance stuff, the UCLA stuff, no doctors, the strange and bizarre behavior of everyone at the memorial service and the funeral. Plus, the fact that there are clues everywhere left by MJ (imo). I believe he was a brilliant artists and this is perhaps the greatest artistic performance of all time. I even can get onboard with some of the Illuminati connections, I do believe he was a threat to them.
But all this nonsense of numbers, please. Anyone can take any set of numbers and create patterns and say, see, look at the patterns! So, what if this person got their hands on a script of 2012 before it was released and knew the plot, the storyline, the character's name, etc. Big deal, that's not that difficult to do, especially in Los Angeles.
I just don't see any "predictions" coming true in any of TS's posts. That's not to say that I don't appreciate the work and respect the author, quite the contrary. If it gets people on board believing that something might be up and gets people to look deeper, then I'm all for it. But I don't see any real evidence in any of this.
I prefer to focus on the real evidence. The Death Certificate, the autopsy report, the fake ambulance photo, the LAPD, etc. etc.
This is Also It doesn't contain anything but some creative redirects, no solid proof or evidence of anything for me.
But all this nonsense of numbers, please. Anyone can take any set of numbers and create patterns and say, see, look at the patterns!
Aaaah...I see that the ultimate winner of the $999 Reward has just checked in. <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->
anonJedi, be my guest, and prove us that TS' numerology is just "nonsense of numbers"!
$999 Reward!!!
On the one year anniversary of 9-9-09, this is a very fitting time to offer this $999 reward. The reward will go to the first person who can show mathematically and statistically, that there is one chance in any number less than a million (1 chance in 999,999 or 1 chance in 500,000, etc), that all the MJ numerology listed in step 3 below happened by chance.
Anyone can accept this offer, but they must do each of the following 5 steps.
Step 1: Carefully read each of the following three times: all of this post, and TIAI Updates #4b, #4c, #5a, #5d, #6 (especially #6-8 & #6-9).
Step 2: Start a post (in the TIAI subforum) titled: “$999 Claim, By John Doe [don’t use this name, use your own username]”. Include in your post steps 3 and 4, below; also, any discussion regarding step 5 should be done in this same thread.
Step 3: Show your calculations for each separate numerology (a. to l.) happening by chance {for an example, see the 12:21 phone call time, http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=9994}.
Be sure to include:
a. The 911 call was in the first few seconds of 12:21
b. 12:21 to 2:26 is 2 hours and 5 minutes on June 25; 2 + 5 = 7
c. 1,221 + 226 = 1447; 1 + 4 + 4 + 7 = 16; 1 + 6 = 7
d. Memorial 7th day of 7th month, 7 years after will (and full moon)
e. 77 days from “death” to 9-9-09
f. 7 days from “burial” to 9-9-09 (and almost full moon)
g. THIS IS IT vowels = 999
h. HIS (HIStory and THIS IS IT) backwards = 1998
i. 1998 autograph; 1998 - 666 = 1332 / 4 = 333 + 666 = 999
j. 777 + 999 = 1776
k. All of these numbers (333, 666, 777, 999, 1221, 1776, 1998) are divisible by 111
l. 8 + 16 + 1977 = 2001; 6 + 25 + 2009 = 2040 (space intros for Elvis and MJ)
Step 4: Show your calculations for the combination of all these numerologies happening by chance. Your answer here at step 4 must be 1 chance in 999,999 or less (because one chance in a million or more does not qualify for the reward).
Step 5: Allow me to question/challenge your calculations.
If you can defend your calculations and statistics by answering my questions/challenges: then PM your mailing address to me, and I will send you $999 (U.S. dollars) via Western Union!
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In biology, chemistry, engineering, medicine, meteorology and physics
* Tensile strength, a measures of the force required to pull something
* Thymidylate synthase, the enzyme used to generate thymidine monophosphate
* Tosyl in chemistry, combines the toluene and sulfonyl functional groups
* Tourette syndrome, a neurological condition involving involuntary tics
* Transsexual, a person who identifies as the gender opposite to the sex assigned to them at birth
* Tropical storm, an organized system of strong thunderstorms
* Tuberous sclerosis, a disease that causes benign tumours in the brain and on other organs
***** TS Topic Starter (person who started a forum thread)
* Turner syndrome, a group of chromosomal abnormalities
In business, computing and technology:
* MPEG transport stream (.ts), communications protocol for audio, video, and data
* TeamSpeak, a voice chat software
* TechSpot, an online computer enthusiast magazine
* Telesync, an unauthorized movie capture method
* Tenaris TS: NYSE, a global manufacturer of steel pipe products
* Terminal Services, a component of Microsoft Windows operating systems
* Timestamp, a time code or a digitally signed timestamp as in {ts '2005-10-27 00:00:00'}
* Train simulator, a computer program that simulates rail transport operations
* Transaction server, a software component that is used in implementing transactions
In culture, politics and society:
* Taylor Swift, an American country singer
* Teaspoon, as a unit of volume in cooking
* Texas Syndicate, a Hispanic prison gang
* Theosophical Society, an organization to advance the doctrine of Theosophy
* Top Secret, a security classification
* Transcendental Students, a radical student group at NYU in the late 1960s and early 1970s
* Transition School, an accelerated college entrance program at the University of Washington
* Treaty series, a collection of United States treaties published by the US Department of State * TS, the code for South Tipperary, Ireland
In language, linguistics, literature and media:
* The Simpsons, an American animated TV series <!-- s --><!-- s --> * The Sims, a series of people simulator games
* Toy Story, a 1995 CGI film
* The Soup, an American series
* Ts (digraph), in the Latin alphabet
* Voiceless alveolar affricate, in linguistics, a type of consonantal sound
* Ц, the Cyrillic letter representing the ts sound or voiceless alveolar affricate
* The Scream, a painting
* The Specialists, a computer video game modification of the popular first-person shooter Half-Life
* Tenor saxophone, musical instrument, reeds
* Tiberian Sun, a game in the Command & Conquer series of video games
* TinySex, slang for sex roleplay
* Terminator Salvation, a 2009 American science fiction post-apocalyptic war film
* TimeSplitters (series), a video game series, formally known as Free Radical Design
* Tsonga language, a language in Africa.
In transportation:
* Air Transat IATA code
* Tidewater Southern Railway, a short line railroad in Central California
* Turbine Ship, steamships powered by the steam turbine
* Twin Spark, an engine technology usually in the context of Alfa Romeo cars
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****** TS Terms of Service
****** TS Table Saw (woodworking)
****** TS Tunisia
****** TS The Sims (computer game)
****** TS Tri-State
****** TS Technical Specification
****** TS The Stuff (movie)
****** TS Test Set
****** TS Tropical Storm
****** TS Technical Services ****** TS Cleveland (postcode, United Kingdom)
****** TS Toy Story
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****** TS Trieste (Friuli Venezia Giulia, Italy)
****** TS Temperature Sensor
****** TS Teamspeak
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****** TS The Simpsons (TV show)
****** TS Twisted Sister (band)
****** TS Township
****** TS Transaction Server
****** TS Training Support
****** TS Time Sharing
****** TS Teesside (UK post code)
****** TS Tasmania (Australia)
****** TS Teaspoon
****** TS Turner Syndrome (XO monosomy in girls)
****** TS Thunderstorm
****** TS TeleSync
****** TS Tensile Strength
***** TS Transportation System (Siemens)
***** TS Total Score
***** TS Temperature Sensitive (cells)
***** TS Translation Services ***** TS Tupac Shakur <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
***** TS Town Square
***** TS Twin Sister
***** TS Tenor Saxophone
***** TS Transport Service
***** TS The Syndicate (online gaming guild)
***** TS Technical School
***** TS Treatment System
***** TS Transfer Station (waste, shipping, mining)
***** TS Terror Squad (band)
***** TS Terror Squad (gaming clan)
***** TS Tuberous Sclerosis
***** TS Thoracic Surgery
***** TS Trisomy
***** TS Tiberian Sun (game)
***** TS Tom Sawyer
***** TS Technical Solution
***** TS Temperature Switch
***** TS The Specialists (gaming, Half-Life)
***** TS Test Solution
***** TS Timestamping (IRC)
***** TS Total Solids (environmental biology)
***** TS Topic Starter (person who started a forum thread)
***** TS The Shins (band)
***** TS Trade Station (investing/trading software)
***** TS Toisin Sanoen
***** TS Typescript
***** TS Tramp Stamp
***** TS Technical Standard
***** TS Time Sheet
***** TS Toxic Substance
***** TS Trading Spouses (TV show)
***** TS Trouble Shooter
***** TS Tabu Search (algorithm)
***** TS Theological Studies (Journal)
***** TS Treasury Stock
**** TS Test Specification
**** TS Targeting System
**** TS Tough Stuff (polite form)
**** TS Trailing Stop (investing/trading)
**** TS Test Station
**** TS Thermal Sensor (computing)
**** TS Terribly Sad
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**** TS Telegraph System
**** TS Temple Square (Salt Lake City, UT, USA)
**** TS Text Structure
**** TS Temporary Structure
**** TS Target Start
**** TS Total Strength
**** TS Transient State (of a reaction or system)
**** TS Tale Spin (cartoon)
**** TS Training Squadron
**** TS Team Shot
**** TS Transmission Scheme
**** TS Trypticase Soy
**** TS Tenure System
**** TS Technical Sergeant
**** TS Target Strength
**** TS Tentative de Suicide (French: Suicide Attempt)
**** TS Transfer Start (memory controllers)
**** TS Trunk Side
**** TS Tamper Switch
**** TS True Shame
**** TS Traffic Sensitive
**** TS Task Support
**** TS Trusted Solaris
**** TS Tail Suspension (rat scientific testing)
**** TS Transit Storage
**** TS Transmitter Station
**** TS Tip, Sleeve
*** TS Timer State
*** TS Terribly Sexy
*** TS Tipperary South (Ireland)
*** TS Twin Stack (decoder)
*** TS Turbine Ship
*** TS Timothy Syndrome
*** TS Taura Syndrome
*** TS Tennessee Smokies (Minor League baseball team)
*** TS Tethered Satellite
*** TS Torch Soldering
*** TS Tandem Server *** TS Toilet Stop <!-- s --><!-- s -->
*** TS Townsend's Solitaire (bird species)
*** TS Transition Season *** TS Transitional Strategy
*** TS Toll Switching
*** TS Tevynes Sajunga (Homeland Union Party, Lithuania)
*** TS Terminating Switch
*** TS Transit Switch
*** TS Telemetry Station
*** TS Tube Settler (wastewater treatment)
*** TS Trigger Supervisor
*** TS Treating Source
*** TS Test Secretary
*** TS Tunnel Switch
*** TS Twin Skies (computer game)
*** TS Tangent to Spiral
*** TS Trans-Section
*** TS Thyssen Schachtbau GmbH
** TS Triathlonscotland
** TS Tribal Souls (band)
** TS Topological Surgery
** TS Tagging Spectrometer
** TS TELE-Sputnik (Satellite, Cable TV and Telecommunication magazine, Russia)
** TS Tritium Storage
** TS Thermal Smooth (weather)
** TS Tethered Swimming
** TS Tackable Surface
** TS Thyristor Switch
** TS Triumphant Sound (Manhattan Christian College, Manhattan, KS singing group)
** TS Thor Shield (G2 Consulting)
** TS Tough Save (baseball)
** TS Tending Side
** TS Tesselated Sheroid
** TS Test/Type Specification
** TS Science and Engineering Support Office (NIMA)
** TS Tidewater Southern Railway Company
** TS Thresher-Separator
** TS Temple Siege (game)
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** TS Toogoolawa School (Gold Coast, Australia)
** TS Trabzon Spor Klübü (Trabzon, Turkey)
* TS Trajectory Synthesis CSCI
* TS Times-Shamrock, Inc. (Scranton, PA)
* TS Transaction Separator
* TS Theil Statistic (software reliability)
* TS Theological Seminary
* TS Tele Soluciones (Guatemala)
* TS Training Ship
* TS Training Specialist
* TS Traffic Shaping
* TS Traffic Signal
* TS Trading Spaces (TV show)
* TS Trabzonspor (Turkey)
* TS Tracking Sensor
* TS Tourette Syndrome
* TS Total System
* TS Totally Spies (TV show)
* TS Total Solution (RWM Data Management Ltd.)
* TS TimeSplitters (video game)
* TS Top Secret
* TS Top Soil
* TS Top Spin (game)
* TS Tony Stewart
* TS Thymidylate Synthase
* TS Thermal Subsystem (company)
* TS Thermal Systems * TS Thomas Stearns (poet T.S. Eliot)
* TS Time Slot
* TS Time Switch
After The Sign from TS, and Thread Starter from Back, yours is third best. <!-- s --><!-- s --> Perfect trilogy.
I think part of the reason that we all love TS is that right from the beginning with all the redirects, grooming and preparing our minds, making our minds 'simmer', was that we've had this long relationship already before the all the Reveals. 212 redirects to date according to LilWendy. The Reveals were more his proofs and confirmations, whipped cream on top. I'm not sure someone could just jump in with those and be convinced. So my advise is to go back for for reading and meditation and 'simmering'; all links are available. But maybe that's just me, no minds are the same.
With all due respect, I don't think you'll find anyone on the planet that would be willing to spend the time and effort it would take to mathematically disprove that those numbers could line up coincidentally. The number of hours it would take to do such a thing wouldn't be worth a thousand dollars. I'm no mathemetician so I won't even bother trying but again, anyone can take any set of numbers and create their own patterns.
Please understand that I am not here to flame TS. I find TS's theories interesting and appreciate the input, I really do. However, none of this stuff is "evidence". I prefer to deal with the real, hard evidence. Things that are tangible such as the autopsy report, no medical doctors, the strange case of Conrad Murray. The Gilda/Smooth Criminal connection, Mickey Fine Pharmacy, the Elvis Connections, the family's statements, the body doubles, etc. These, to me are tangible clues, pieces of real evidence. I prefer to focus on these things rather than abstract numbers and possibilities that are not hard evidence.
With all due respect, I don't think you'll find anyone on the planet that would be willing to spend the time and effort it would take to mathematically disprove that those numbers could line up coincidentally. The number of hours it would take to do such a thing wouldn't be worth a thousand dollars. I'm no mathemetician so I won't even bother trying but again, anyone can take any set of numbers and create their own patterns.
Please understand that I am not here to flame TS. I find TS's theories interesting and appreciate the input, I really do. However, none of this stuff is "evidence". I prefer to deal with the real, hard evidence. Things that are tangible such as the autopsy report, no medical doctors, the strange case of Conrad Murray. The Gilda/Smooth Criminal connection, Mickey Fine Pharmacy, the Elvis Connections, the family's statements, the body doubles, etc. These, to me are tangible clues, pieces of real evidence. I prefer to focus on these things rather than abstract numbers and possibilities that are not hard evidence.
It will take you 2 hours of your time, to be precise $499,50 an hour is not so bad I think. Although I am not a mathematician either and I am sure not everything is exactly calculated as it should, at least I took the time for it. <!-- l -->viewtopic.php?f=72&t=14067<!-- l -->
BTW: I didn´t win $999, but maybe you will since you think it´s all nonsense...
"For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."
Again, I'm not here to flame TS. I am a firm believer that his/her work is important, at the very least to get people to think outside the box and I'm all for it. But let me just show you a few examples of how you can take any set of numbers and make them mean anything you want and then say that there's a pattern.
MJ appeared on Soul Train with the Jackson 5 in 1973. 1+9+7+3+5 = 25. 2+5=7
MJ was born on August 29th, 1958 (2+9)=11 + (1+9+5+8)=23; 11+23=34; 3+4=7
MJ died on June 25th, 2009. 2+5=7, 2+0+0+9=11 7+11=18 8+1=9
Thriller album was released on 11/30/1982. 1+1+3+0+1+9+8+2=25 2+5 = 7
The Wiz was released in 1978. 1+9+7+8 = 25. 2+5=7
Michael starred in the Wiz with good friend Diana Ross who was born on 3/26/1944. 3+2+6+1+9+4+4=29. 2+9=11
I could go on and on and find the number 11 and 7 in almost anything. You see what I'm getting at? Again, I really don't mean any disrespect, I just feel that as investigators, we should be focusing on the tangible evidence and not the numerology which is very abstract.
Again, I'm not here to flame TS. I am a firm believer that his/her work is important, at the very least to get people to think outside the box and I'm all for it. But let me just show you a few examples of how you can take any set of numbers and make them mean anything you want and then say that there's a pattern.
MJ appeared on Soul Train with the Jackson 5 in 1973. 1+9+7+3+5 = 25. 2+5=7
MJ was born on August 29th, 1958 (2+9)=11 + (1+9+5+8)=23; 11+23=34; 3+4=7
MJ died on June 25th, 2009. 2+5=7, 2+0+0+9=11 7+11=18 8+1=9
Thriller album was released on 11/30/1982. 1+1+3+0+1+9+8+2=25 2+5 = 7
The Wiz was released in 1978. 1+9+7+8 = 25. 2+5=7
Michael starred in the Wiz with good friend Diana Ross who was born on 3/26/1944. 3+2+6+1+9+4+4=29. 2+9=11
I could go on and on and find the number 11 and 7 in almost anything. You see what I'm getting at? Again, I really don't mean any disrespect, I just feel that as investigators, we should be focusing on the tangible evidence and not the numerology which is very abstract.
No disrespect taken. Everyone has the right to their own opinion. For me, what I perceive to be the very clever use of numerology, is really "intriguing". For instance, did you know that YOU joined this forum on September 14, 2001 @ 6:01pm (9+14+2+1+6+1=33). "33".
Well, I do not need to be rewarded for proving the veracity of information about the coincidences or simply prove that there are coincidences and may or may not be pre-defined or pre-designed for an actual event. I do not need to know the identity of the TS, also, this is not a priority for me. What I need is to know your true belief through opinions or precise information that MJ is alive in the flesh, to the exclusion of any study of coincidences or mere conjecture. Otherwise, I'm involved in a big ado, whose purpose is anything other than a possible "hoax."
Again, I'm not here to flame TS. I am a firm believer that his/her work is important, at the very least to get people to think outside the box and I'm all for it. But let me just show you a few examples of how you can take any set of numbers and make them mean anything you want and then say that there's a pattern.
MJ appeared on Soul Train with the Jackson 5 in 1973. 1+9+7+3+5 = 25. 2+5=7
MJ was born on August 29th, 1958 (2+9)=11 + (1+9+5+8)=23; 11+23=34; 3+4=7
MJ died on June 25th, 2009. 2+5=7, 2+0+0+9=11 7+11=18 8+1=9
Thriller album was released on 11/30/1982. 1+1+3+0+1+9+8+2=25 2+5 = 7
The Wiz was released in 1978. 1+9+7+8 = 25. 2+5=7
Michael starred in the Wiz with good friend Diana Ross who was born on 3/26/1944. 3+2+6+1+9+4+4=29. 2+9=11
I could go on and on and find the number 11 and 7 in almost anything. You see what I'm getting at? Again, I really don't mean any disrespect, I just feel that as investigators, we should be focusing on the tangible evidence and not the numerology which is very abstract.
Maybe that you are not here to "flame" TS but I personally would find it disrespectful if someone told me that reading my posts was a massive waste of time... <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? --> How would you feel if I said the exact same thing about your post I quoted? And if I added that it is a total nonsense? I don't think that you would appreciate.
I'm sorry to add that this is not how the numerology works here, may I suggest that you re-read TS' posts, carefully? Or maybe that you still think that it would be a waste of time? I have read them several times to understand correctly the numerology aspect and even if this is not the most important thing it's part of the structure of the hoax and it cannot be dismissed. Thanks to the numerology we have understood what is the purpose of the hoax for example, to me the numbers are also tangible proofs, hard solid evidence.
The number of hours it would take to do such a thing wouldn't be worth a thousand dollars.
You have chosen the easy way by not accepting the challenge. It's not about the money, if TS offered a reward it's because he is certain that nobody will and can disprove the numerology pattern embedded in the hoax. I also presume that it takes a couple of hours for TS to collect the necessary information and make these posts and we don't pay him for that.
I think that I'm going to end here because you seem to have already made up your mind about this issue...
Someone who are unsure of inteciones TS, could explain why he or she takes the trouble to do all these calculations and explanations and post them on this board?
To make fun of people?, If that's the case I think I could use your time on something more productive to spend many hours writing all those post, with the sole purpose of making fun of us, isn't it?
Read it twice? Haha, no thanks. I'll just continue focusing on my time on the hard evidence.
All I can say is, until such time that you meet the challenge and actually debunk, specifically, the numerology in TS' posts then what you are contributing on this topic amounts to...nothing.
Again, I'm not here to flame TS. I am a firm believer that his/her work is important, at the very least to get people to think outside the box and I'm all for it. But let me just show you a few examples of how you can take any set of numbers and make them mean anything you want and then say that there's a pattern.
MJ appeared on Soul Train with the Jackson 5 in 1973. 1+9+7+3+5 = 25. 2+5=7
MJ was born on August 29th, 1958 (2+9)=11 + (1+9+5+8)=23; 11+23=34; 3+4=7
MJ died on June 25th, 2009. 2+5=7, 2+0+0+9=11 7+11=18 8+1=9
Thriller album was released on 11/30/1982. 1+1+3+0+1+9+8+2=25 2+5 = 7
The Wiz was released in 1978. 1+9+7+8 = 25. 2+5=7
Michael starred in the Wiz with good friend Diana Ross who was born on 3/26/1944. 3+2+6+1+9+4+4=29. 2+9=11
I could go on and on and find the number 11 and 7 in almost anything. You see what I'm getting at? Again, I really don't mean any disrespect, I just feel that as investigators, we should be focusing on the tangible evidence and not the numerology which is very abstract.
I want to thank you for giving the examples above, which show that you are thinking and are willing to try and show why you think the numerology is too abstract to be a focus. That's exactly what we are always being reminded to do here - to think for ourselves and find evidence that leads us to the truth.
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LOL, where can I find that autopsy report?
"For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."<!-- m -->http://hubpages.com/hub/Tupac-7-day-theorie<!-- m -->
Tupacs last album recorded before his death was entitled The Don Killuminati: The 7 day theory. Nothing was ever explained in regards to the title but here are the strange facts surrounding the number 7 and the album in general.
* Tupac survived the shooting exactly 7 days
* Tupac died at 4:03, 4+3=7
* Tupac died at the age of 25, 2+5=7
* Tupac died in 1996, 9+9+1+6=25, 2+5=7
* The gunman shot 12-13 times, 1+2=3, 1+3=4, 4+3=7
* In the movie gang related Tupac played a cop with the badge number 115, 1+1+5=7
* Inside of the album cover it does not say R.I.P. to Tupac anywhere. All it says is exit Tupac enter Makeveli.
* The executive producer is listed only as Simon
* In the 7th song on the album White manz world Tupac says “Were never gonna walk off this planet till yall choose to”
* The album was released exactly 7 months after his previous album All Eyez On Me
* The cover of the album depicts Tupac being crucified.
Time will tell.
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He says things like he did not know who it was, talk about interesting things about the weight and body length, and that the autopsy report is not public because the case remained unsolved.
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Your comment is "interesting", we must be looking at TS posts with totally different "eyes" because my conclusions are exactly the opposite to yours.
Whilst I agree that some of the re-directs can be open to interpretation at time (Finding the Truth is part of the learning process), the well planned structure of the updates, the logic supporting the "hoax" numerology, the timing of some re-directs and their content are clearly more than mere coincidences!
In addition, this post from "Back" on 18/02/09" does leave very little (if any <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) --> ) doubts in my mind that "TS" is an integral part of the Hoax...
With L.O.V.E
You say that you are a potential hoax believer. Can you please tell us what are the reasons that can possibly make you believe that this is a hoax?
TS creative? Yes certainly it requires creativity together with lot of thinking and a lot of sense too.
I'm sorry to say that but you are acting as many have already done by gratuitously "criticizing" TS. You just claim that this is "complete and utter nonsense" but you actually don't prove it. Can you explain in what it is a complete nonsense please?
While some people will say that 1+1=2 others will say that 1+1=11. It certainly depends on the context and the perspective in which things are 'studied', both can be true but it has to be explained in order to be comprehended and this is what TS has done, the information he has provided can be further investigated by ourselves and TS made a point to tell us to do it. Who would do that? On the contrary you have not proven him being wrong, we have no information from your part contradicting TS' information that we could investigate ourselves too.
But if this is really the final conclusion that you have ended up with after reading these posts the last thing we can do is just wait and see for The Truth to prevail.
But all this nonsense of numbers, please. Anyone can take any set of numbers and create patterns and say, see, look at the patterns! So, what if this person got their hands on a script of 2012 before it was released and knew the plot, the storyline, the character's name, etc. Big deal, that's not that difficult to do, especially in Los Angeles.
I just don't see any "predictions" coming true in any of TS's posts. That's not to say that I don't appreciate the work and respect the author, quite the contrary. If it gets people on board believing that something might be up and gets people to look deeper, then I'm all for it. But I don't see any real evidence in any of this.
I prefer to focus on the real evidence. The Death Certificate, the autopsy report, the fake ambulance photo, the LAPD, etc. etc.
This is Also It doesn't contain anything but some creative redirects, no solid proof or evidence of anything for me.
Aaaah...I see that the ultimate winner of the $999 Reward has just checked in. <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->
anonJedi, be my guest, and prove us that TS' numerology is just "nonsense of numbers"!
I think part of the reason that we all love TS is that right from the beginning with all the redirects, grooming and preparing our minds, making our minds 'simmer', was that we've had this long relationship already before the all the Reveals. 212 redirects to date according to LilWendy. The Reveals were more his proofs and confirmations, whipped cream on top. I'm not sure someone could just jump in with those and be convinced. So my advise is to go back for for reading and meditation and 'simmering'; all links are available. But maybe that's just me, no minds are the same.
With all due respect, I don't think you'll find anyone on the planet that would be willing to spend the time and effort it would take to mathematically disprove that those numbers could line up coincidentally. The number of hours it would take to do such a thing wouldn't be worth a thousand dollars. I'm no mathemetician so I won't even bother trying but again, anyone can take any set of numbers and create their own patterns.
Please understand that I am not here to flame TS. I find TS's theories interesting and appreciate the input, I really do. However, none of this stuff is "evidence". I prefer to deal with the real, hard evidence. Things that are tangible such as the autopsy report, no medical doctors, the strange case of Conrad Murray. The Gilda/Smooth Criminal connection, Mickey Fine Pharmacy, the Elvis Connections, the family's statements, the body doubles, etc. These, to me are tangible clues, pieces of real evidence. I prefer to focus on these things rather than abstract numbers and possibilities that are not hard evidence.
It will take you 2 hours of your time, to be precise $499,50 an hour is not so bad I think. Although I am not a mathematician either and I am sure not everything is exactly calculated as it should, at least I took the time for it. <!-- l -->viewtopic.php?f=72&t=14067<!-- l -->
BTW: I didn´t win $999, but maybe you will since you think it´s all nonsense...
"For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."MJ appeared on Soul Train with the Jackson 5 in 1973. 1+9+7+3+5 = 25. 2+5=7
MJ was born on August 29th, 1958 (2+9)=11 + (1+9+5+8)=23; 11+23=34; 3+4=7
MJ died on June 25th, 2009. 2+5=7, 2+0+0+9=11 7+11=18 8+1=9
Thriller album was released on 11/30/1982. 1+1+3+0+1+9+8+2=25 2+5 = 7
The Wiz was released in 1978. 1+9+7+8 = 25. 2+5=7
Michael starred in the Wiz with good friend Diana Ross who was born on 3/26/1944. 3+2+6+1+9+4+4=29. 2+9=11
I could go on and on and find the number 11 and 7 in almost anything. You see what I'm getting at? Again, I really don't mean any disrespect, I just feel that as investigators, we should be focusing on the tangible evidence and not the numerology which is very abstract.
No disrespect taken. Everyone has the right to their own opinion. For me, what I perceive to be the very clever use of numerology, is really "intriguing". For instance, did you know that YOU joined this forum on September 14, 2001 @ 6:01pm (9+14+2+1+6+1=33). "33".
I could twist those numbers in a completely different way...
9+1+4+2+0+1+0=17
same numbers, different result. see what I mean? <!-- s
Maybe that you are not here to "flame" TS but I personally would find it disrespectful if someone told me that reading my posts was a massive waste of time... <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? --> How would you feel if I said the exact same thing about your post I quoted? And if I added that it is a total nonsense? I don't think that you would appreciate.
I'm sorry to add that this is not how the numerology works here, may I suggest that you re-read TS' posts, carefully? Or maybe that you still think that it would be a waste of time? I have read them several times to understand correctly the numerology aspect and even if this is not the most important thing it's part of the structure of the hoax and it cannot be dismissed. Thanks to the numerology we have understood what is the purpose of the hoax for example, to me the numbers are also tangible proofs, hard solid evidence.
You have chosen the easy way by not accepting the challenge. It's not about the money, if TS offered a reward it's because he is certain that nobody will and can disprove the numerology pattern embedded in the hoax. I also presume that it takes a couple of hours for TS to collect the necessary information and make these posts and we don't pay him for that.
I think that I'm going to end here because you seem to have already made up your mind about this issue...
Peace.
To make fun of people?, If that's the case I think I could use your time on something more productive to spend many hours writing all those post, with the sole purpose of making fun of us, isn't it?
I want to thank you for giving the examples above, which show that you are thinking and are willing to try and show why you think the numerology is too abstract to be a focus. That's exactly what we are always being reminded to do here - to think for ourselves and find evidence that leads us to the truth.