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I get the whole "ahhh they are taking away my rights" thing and people have the fear of being controlled. I like my freedom but this is just a bunch of bs. Like the government CARES WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT ONLINE. The government is made up of people (monkeys) like YOU and ME and I think that literally somebody could be looking up "how to make an atomic bomb" online and nothing would even happen to them!
Oooh sorry for my radical point of view. And if something like this were to happen it would be for a DAMN good reason such as terrorism etc.
Sorry, but that's really naive. Your opinion and that's fine, but if I were you I would catch up a little on what is discussed here.
I will never disrespect you Souza and I would have hoped that you could have done the same.
I did not disrespect you, please reread my post. I called you naive, and that is not meant disrespectful. My opinion is that your comment is actually very naive and to me it shows that you have no idea of what is going on in the world. That's fine and I could have said nothing, but I would rather have you opened your eyes on this as well, for your own sake.
Ok, I understand that it wasn't intended that way but you should know this; calling somebody NAIVE will not make them think the way that you want. On the contrary, it will make them more resistant to opening their minds. I am a very open minded person and calling people names, especially when you do not personally know who they are, is disrespectful.
Make whatever you want to make of it and if you choose to keep your eyes closed to this, that is your choice. But in my opinion that is naive. When someone calls me naive on a certain subject, it triggers me to find out why and read up on it. If you won't no problem.
"For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."
I get the whole "ahhh they are taking away my rights" thing and people have the fear of being controlled. I like my freedom but this is just a bunch of bs. Like the government CARES WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT ONLINE. The government is made up of people (monkeys) like YOU and ME and I think that literally somebody could be looking up "how to make an atomic bomb" online and nothing would even happen to them!
Oooh sorry for my radical point of view. And if something like this were to happen it would be for a DAMN good reason such as terrorism etc.
Sorry, but that's really naive. Your opinion and that's fine, but if I were you I would catch up a little on what is discussed here.
I will never disrespect you Souza and I would have hoped that you could have done the same.
I did not disrespect you, please reread my post. I called you naive, and that is not meant disrespectful. My opinion is that your comment is actually very naive and to me it shows that you have no idea of what is going on in the world. That's fine and I could have said nothing, but I would rather have you opened your eyes on this as well, for your own sake.
I think we should resist as much as we can to total control of the web and the individual using it.
Ok, I understand that it wasn't intended that way but you should know this; calling somebody NAIVE will not make them think the way that you want. On the contrary, it will make them more resistant to opening their minds. I am a very open minded person and calling people names, especially when you do not personally know who they are, is disrespectful.
I think we should resist as much as we can to total control of the web and the individual using it. Stop the beginnings before it is too late. It all starts without the masses realizing at once and gradually step by step you're trapped. A warning can only be meant well and if one wouldn't care, you would be addressed in a less direct way and you would be told in the softest voice ever not to be afraid, all is well, it is all for your best. You don't have anything to hide, is the most common one. But that is not the point. The information collected can serve many purposes, and certainly not in our best interest.
Freedom doesn't come for free, it has been a long struggle over the centuries, and nothing can be taken for granted, especially not freedom. We will cherish it most, when we have lost it. Freedom is very precious and not everyone is lucky to have it.
They can't introduce it if enough people resist their wicked agenda, because they fear not being elected again. That is what they fear most - losing control and power. The constituents are powerful if they use their rights to say NO to some BS, their governments want to introduce.
Sorry for double post, but one quote in first post was wrong, I edited. it was my own and not Bonita's.
I get the whole "ahhh they are taking away my rights" thing and people have the fear of being controlled. I like my freedom but this is just a bunch of bs. Like the government CARES WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT ONLINE. The government is made up of people (monkeys) like YOU and ME and I think that literally somebody could be looking up "how to make an atomic bomb" online and nothing would even happen to them!
Oooh sorry for my radical point of view. And if something like this were to happen it would be for a DAMN good reason such as terrorism etc.
Sorry, but that's really naive. Your opinion and that's fine, but if I were you I would catch up a little on what is discussed here.
I will never disrespect you Souza and I would have hoped that you could have done the same.
I did not disrespect you, please reread my post. I called you naive, and that is not meant disrespectful. My opinion is that your comment is actually very naive and to me it shows that you have no idea of what is going on in the world. That's fine and I could have said nothing, but I would rather have you opened your eyes on this as well, for your own sake.
Ok, I understand that it wasn't intended that way but you should know this; calling somebody NAIVE will not make them think the way that you want. On the contrary, it will make them more resistant to opening their minds. I am a very open minded person and calling people names, especially when you do not personally know who they are, is disrespectful.
I think we should resist as much as we can to total control of the web and the individual using it. Stop the beginnings before it is too late. It all starts without the masses realizing at once and gradually step by step you're trapped. A warning can only be meant well and if one wouldn't care, you would be addressed in a less direct way and you would be told in the softest voice ever not to be afraid, all is well, it is all for your best. You don't have anything to hide, is the most common one. But that is not the point. The information collected can serve many purposes, and certainly not in our best interest.
Freedom doesn't come for free, it has been a long struggle over the centuries, and nothing can be taken for granted, especially not freedom. We will cherish it most, when we have lost it. Freedom is very precious and not everyone is lucky to have it.
They can't introduce it if enough people resist their wicked agenda, because they fear not being elected again. That is what they fear most - losing control and power. The constituents are powerful if they use their rights to say NO to some BS, their governments want to introduce.
I get the whole "ahhh they are taking away my rights" thing and people have the fear of being controlled. I like my freedom but this is just a bunch of bs. Like the government CARES WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT ONLINE. The government is made up of people (monkeys) like YOU and ME and I think that literally somebody could be looking up "how to make an atomic bomb" online and nothing would even happen to them!
Oooh sorry for my radical point of view. And if something like this were to happen it would be for a DAMN good reason such as terrorism etc.
You see, some monkeys learned how to use the chair to reach the bananas hanging from the ceiling. And they won't tell the rest of us, because monkeys have a hierarchy system and those on top of the pyramid want to stay there. Since they control the supply of the bananas, they can control many other aspects in our lives. We need to serve them (eat their fleas) to get bananas. They give no more than enough to keep us content and serving them.
To maintain their control, to suppress any thoughts of challenge and to prevent our knowledge about the chair that we might learn to use, they sometimes make our lives misery, say, cut down the ration of bananas. To keep their position, they have to know what you are doing, especially if they sense that some monkeys are not happy with their leadership. <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
There are many people on this board, and in this section especially, who think that something's not right in this world we live in. In a nutshell, that there is a global agenda led by a relatively small amount of people who control how things are - more than we realize - versus the general thought that we, the general public, have control over how many things are.
Some people have asked what does this have to do with MJ. Some listers believe that MJ became aware of this agenda and a victim of it (constant public ridicule, pedo accusations, sudden death). Some believe he is still alive, hoaxing his death and planning a return to expose this agenda. Either way, what is brought up on this board about the agenda is just a fraction of all the information that exists.
Have you ever questionned why something is different now than, say, ten years ago? I did a few years ago. I started noticing little things, with no connection to each other in the beginning. I begun to wonder why young girls suddenly dressed up like hookers? Why are there suddenly many young men killing their peers at school? How come the family unit is broken and different generations spend less time with each other, with their blood (listen to MJ in Oxford)? How come money seems to be ever more important than the wellbeing of people? Why is there a need for endless "growth" and "competitiveness" in business world? How come the school system and health care are eroding away?
The real eye opener was realizing that many of these things seemed to be happening in many countries simultaneously. An accident? Hardly.
The majority of people never ask questions like these and are quite content and happy with going to work, study, eat, watch tv, play computer games, raise a family, buy stuff, read the newspaper and watch the news that someone has chosen to be news that day. Once you have realized there's something going on, there's no return to the old ways of ignorant bliss.
Fear is the very factor here. In the history, those in power have controlled the masses with fear - the sky will fall down, the fear of God.. the best are the ones that can't be beaten.
Today it's fear of terrorism and fear of climate change. The ultimate launch to fear of terrorism was 9/11. A lot has changed after that.
Climate change used to be "global warming", but they changed it to "Climate change" because now it covers everything. And boy, don't the news carry some "The nature is bad to us" piece of news daily.
A lot of insane control has been put in place explaining it with climate change -like here - a town has ordered an obligatory veggie meal once a week for school children.
Don't take freedom for granted, because you have already lost good portions of it.
I get the whole "ahhh they are taking away my rights" thing and people have the fear of being controlled. I like my freedom but this is just a bunch of bs. Like the government CARES WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT ONLINE. The government is made up of people (monkeys) like YOU and ME and I think that literally somebody could be looking up "how to make an atomic bomb" online and nothing would even happen to them!
Oooh sorry for my radical point of view. And if something like this were to happen it would be for a DAMN good reason such as terrorism etc.
You see, some monkeys learned how to use the chair to reach the bananas hanging from the ceiling. And they won't tell the rest of us, because monkeys have a hierarchy system and those on top of the pyramid want to stay there. Since they control the supply of the bananas, they can control many other aspects in our lives. We need to serve them (eat their fleas) to get bananas. They give no more than enough to keep us content and serving them.
To maintain their control, to suppress any thoughts of challenge and to prevent our knowledge about the chair that we might learn to use, they sometimes make our lives misery, say, cut down the ration of bananas. To keep their position, they have to know what you are doing, especially if they sense that some monkeys are not happy with their leadership. <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
There are many people on this board, and in this section especially, who think that something's not right in this world we live in. In a nutshell, that there is a global agenda led by a relatively small amount of people who control how things are - more than we realize - versus the general thought that we, the general public, have control over how many things are.
Some people have asked what does this have to do with MJ. Some listers believe that MJ became aware of this agenda and a victim of it (constant public ridicule, pedo accusations, sudden death). Some believe he is still alive, hoaxing his death and planning a return to expose this agenda. Either way, what is brought up on this board about the agenda is just a fraction of all the information that exists.
Have you ever questionned why something is different now than, say, ten years ago? I did a few years ago. I started noticing little things, with no connection to each other in the beginning. I begun to wonder why young girls suddenly dressed up like hookers? Why are there suddenly many young men killing their peers at school? How come the family unit is broken and different generations spend less time with each other, with their blood (listen to MJ in Oxford)? How come money seems to be ever more important than the wellbeing of people? Why is there a need for endless "growth" and "competitiveness" in business world? How come the school system and health care are eroding away?
The real eye opener was realizing that many of these things seemed to be happening in many countries simultaneously. An accident? Hardly.
The majority of people never ask questions like these and are quite content and happy with going to work, study, eat, watch tv, play computer games, raise a family, buy stuff, read the newspaper and watch the news that someone has chosen to be news that day. Once you have realized there's something going on, there's no return to the old ways of ignorant bliss.
Fear is the very factor here. In the history, those in power have controlled the masses with fear - the sky will fall down, the fear of God.. the best are the ones that can't be beaten.
Today it's fear of terrorism and fear of climate change. The ultimate launch to fear of terrorism was 9/11. A lot has changed after that.
Climate change used to be "global warming", but they changed it to "Climate change" because now it covers everything. And boy, don't the news carry some "The nature is bad to us" piece of news daily.
A lot of insane control has been put in place explaining it with climate change -like here - a town has ordered an obligatory veggie meal once a week for school children.
Don't take freedom for granted, because you have already lost good portions of it.
Nightowl, with your permission I am going to quote your post everytime someone comes around that still thinks we are living in a happy and fantastic world. What a great summary of the problems in this world in a very understandable, thought provoking and eye opening way.
"For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."
Seems some folks don't mind handing the key to their house, their library, their portemonnaie or their friends' houses over to somebody they don't know.
Freedom is not having nothing to hide.
Freedom is walking in peace and on your own feet without being constantly followed and observed and without having the path directed whereto we walk.
We had a lot of bloodshed for freedom in all those centuries. Bloodshed for freedom is still ongoing reality in many many wars taking place RIGHT NOW.
There are more people living in non-freedom on this planet than those that are living in so-proclaimed freedom.
Those held in permanent captivity of dictatorship are tearing walls down, they are dying on streets for more freedom.
Those living in relative freedom which many people on this planet would die for dare telling that they have nothing to hide and therefore nothing against more control?
Seems a basic value of life is not appreciated anymore - well keep going and keep silent.
Consequently, more control will not harm you and you will be happy for now.
Just that I'm afraid if you don't mind now, one day you'll mind.
One remark about all those proud parents feeding the web with their toddler's photos.
They are feeding mug shots from very early days.
One day their kids will wish their parents to hell for having laid the ground of total control on their lives. Who intensively is using facebook is voluntarily giving up control over his life.
facebook has been linked to yahoo and google not for "we love you" reasons.
God bless those in Tunisia who did not mind to die on the streets for freedom of their country.
It is time to open our eyes.
Peace, freedom and love be and stay available for every soul on this earth.
I'm not here to say this is a wrong or right thing and not sure if you guys who are not from the US know or how it works in other countries, but here we need a password to log in and then do anything including surfing Internet on any public computer- schools, work, universities and libraries. And freedom rights or not, I like that coz I don't want to be taken as someone who might have opened a porn site or a bomb making site if I haven't on a shared computer.
And when I log in to chk my bank account details, I really do want security. This might be different to what's goin on, but dont we all want some kinda privacy security when we put in our credit card details?? So many people I know had their Ids stolen coz of hackers or just coz they checked their details on a public computer. I'm just saying....
Nightowl, with your permission I am going to quote your post everytime someone comes around that still thinks we are living in a happy and fantastic world. What a great summary of the problems in this world in a very understandable, thought provoking and eye opening way.
Thank you for the compliment, Souza, and permission granted. These are the times of spreading the word and encouraging people to think outside the box.
Well said indeed yet as a common man, our worries are not the government but what has become of the society. The government doesn't tell a guy to rob an old lady, government doesn't tell someone to start killing in series, government doesn't tell someone to steal from others, the government doesn't tell someone to go and shoot people at work or students in school.
Our concerns these days are not getting on that chair to get bananas but to save the bananas that we do have from other monkeys or being killed by others.
I'm not saying government doesnt make mistakes. In fact I don't agree with war. I don't like the fact that the governments decide to fight but it's the innocent people who die. I don't like politics played well by politicians. Yet I am glad they aren't there coz that gives us just some discipline in society. Their rules protect us too. What direct affect our day to day to life directly are the killings on the street, the murders etc etc. Our problem is we can't fight against it all. We cant fight against the guns, the weapons, the robberies alone just like we can't fight poverty, inflation, war etc. Can we really tell companies to not cut more trees? Yet government has passed bills in the past that have helped us. For me, if government introduces a system that secures our privacy, well I'm atleast up for it coz the times we live in, it's the most needed. I see Souza called someone naive- not offensive but I see it as a difference of opinion. I guess she can call me naive too but it's really how we perceive the society we live in today. I do miss the times when you knew every thing about your neighbor and everything was simple and nice. But now it's all about wanting more or wanting to be someone important- the guy with all the bananas but we cant blame where we are just on the government. I guess I'm being a neutral coz I realize what's wrong in our society.
I get the whole "ahhh they are taking away my rights" thing and people have the fear of being controlled. I like my freedom but this is just a bunch of bs. Like the government CARES WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT ONLINE. The government is made up of people (monkeys) like YOU and ME and I think that literally somebody could be looking up "how to make an atomic bomb" online and nothing would even happen to them!
Oooh sorry for my radical point of view. And if something like this were to happen it would be for a DAMN good reason such as terrorism etc.
You see, some monkeys learned how to use the chair to reach the bananas hanging from the ceiling. And they won't tell the rest of us, because monkeys have a hierarchy system and those on top of the pyramid want to stay there. Since they control the supply of the bananas, they can control many other aspects in our lives. We need to serve them (eat their fleas) to get bananas. They give no more than enough to keep us content and serving them.
To maintain their control, to suppress any thoughts of challenge and to prevent our knowledge about the chair that we might learn to use, they sometimes make our lives misery, say, cut down the ration of bananas. To keep their position, they have to know what you are doing, especially if they sense that some monkeys are not happy with their leadership. ;)
There are many people on this board, and in this section especially, who think that something's not right in this world we live in. In a nutshell, that there is a global agenda led by a relatively small amount of people who control how things are - more than we realize - versus the general thought that we, the general public, have control over how many things are.
Some people have asked what does this have to do with MJ. Some listers believe that MJ became aware of this agenda and a victim of it (constant public ridicule, pedo accusations, sudden death). Some believe he is still alive, hoaxing his death and planning a return to expose this agenda. Either way, what is brought up on this board about the agenda is just a fraction of all the information that exists.
Have you ever questionned why something is different now than, say, ten years ago? I did a few years ago. I started noticing little things, with no connection to each other in the beginning. I begun to wonder why young girls suddenly dressed up like hookers? Why are there suddenly many young men killing their peers at school? How come the family unit is broken and different generations spend less time with each other, with their blood (listen to MJ in Oxford)? How come money seems to be ever more important than the wellbeing of people? Why is there a need for endless "growth" and "competitiveness" in business world? How come the school system and health care are eroding away?
The real eye opener was realizing that many of these things seemed to be happening in many countries simultaneously. An accident? Hardly.
The majority of people never ask questions like these and are quite content and happy with going to work, study, eat, watch tv, play computer games, raise a family, buy stuff, read the newspaper and watch the news that someone has chosen to be news that day. Once you have realized there's something going on, there's no return to the old ways of ignorant bliss.
Fear is the very factor here. In the history, those in power have controlled the masses with fear - the sky will fall down, the fear of God.. the best are the ones that can't be beaten.
Today it's fear of terrorism and fear of climate change. The ultimate launch to fear of terrorism was 9/11. A lot has changed after that.
Climate change used to be "global warming", but they changed it to "Climate change" because now it covers everything. And boy, don't the news carry some "The nature is bad to us" piece of news daily.
A lot of insane control has been put in place explaining it with climate change -like here - a town has ordered an obligatory veggie meal once a week for school children.
Don't take freedom for granted, because you have already lost good portions of it.
Nightowl, with your permission I am going to quote your post everytime someone comes around that still thinks we are living in a happy and fantastic world. What a great summary of the problems in this world in a very understandable, thought provoking and eye opening way.
What frightens me the most is not even the governments but the people because they obey without questionning. The governments we see on TV are puppets, the real masters are behind the scenes preparing their evil schemes and their ultimate goal is to control absolutely every parcel of our lives, they want to make slaves of all of us. They want the whole planet for themselves and if it costs the killing of millions they will do it and they are doing it right now around the world but nobody or very few say a thing and this is what makes these bad things happening possible, the silence of the people. Them being non-informed is a part of the problem. As long as lies are considered as truths, as long as millions die in total indifference, a long as they destroy the planet with total impunity and rob the people from everything there will never be peace. Hopefully we are entering interesting times.
What frightens me most is that MK Ultras Programers DO exist <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? --> And with that operating in full affect, nothing is off limits or impossible.
According to the Washington Times, here are the problems with "ObamaNet":
The government will be able to track every web site you visit and every keystroke you send on your home computer.
The government will be able to track every purchase you make and every deposit and withdrawal, and gain access to your electronic health care records.
The government will be able to track every blog comment you make, along with every Facebook and Twitter post.
The government will be able to create lists of your friends and acquaintances and lists of all your political affiliations, political donations, club memberships, hobbies and interests.
It's impossible for the government to make this system 100% secure (remember Wikileaks?), meaning criminals would need to steal only one key to unlock a vast amount of your personal and financial information.
Although the White House will tell you it is a voluntary program, the government "voluntary" programs too often end up becoming mandatory. See Web I.D. = more gov't control.
Ringing bells. The Last Man in Europe. George Orwell.
I dont see the source/link to the article @ Infinitylady? I checked there <!-- m -->http://www.obamanet.com/<!-- m -->
but I don't see it
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Hey you go. but, It's there. i saw it you may have to search it on that site through their archives.
I can tell you something though. They have been talking about it on the radio all week about this. I mean, it would be them watching you with every post from Facebook, Twitter, whereever. It is just insane and straight stupid and ridiculous. <!-- s:| -->:|<!-- s:| --> <!-- s:twisted: -->:twisted:<!-- s:twisted: -->
I get the whole "ahhh they are taking away my rights" thing and people have the fear of being controlled. I like my freedom but this is just a bunch of bs. Like the government CARES WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT ONLINE. The government is made up of people (monkeys) like YOU and ME and I think that literally somebody could be looking up "how to make an atomic bomb" online and nothing would even happen to them!
Oooh sorry for my radical point of view. And if something like this were to happen it would be for a DAMN good reason such as terrorism etc.
You see, some monkeys learned how to use the chair to reach the bananas hanging from the ceiling. And they won't tell the rest of us, because monkeys have a hierarchy system and those on top of the pyramid want to stay there. Since they control the supply of the bananas, they can control many other aspects in our lives. We need to serve them (eat their fleas) to get bananas. They give no more than enough to keep us content and serving them.
To maintain their control, to suppress any thoughts of challenge and to prevent our knowledge about the chair that we might learn to use, they sometimes make our lives misery, say, cut down the ration of bananas. To keep their position, they have to know what you are doing, especially if they sense that some monkeys are not happy with their leadership. <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
There are many people on this board, and in this section especially, who think that something's not right in this world we live in. In a nutshell, that there is a global agenda led by a relatively small amount of people who control how things are - more than we realize - versus the general thought that we, the general public, have control over how many things are.
Some people have asked what does this have to do with MJ. Some listers believe that MJ became aware of this agenda and a victim of it (constant public ridicule, pedo accusations, sudden death). Some believe he is still alive, hoaxing his death and planning a return to expose this agenda. Either way, what is brought up on this board about the agenda is just a fraction of all the information that exists.
Have you ever questionned why something is different now than, say, ten years ago? I did a few years ago. I started noticing little things, with no connection to each other in the beginning. I begun to wonder why young girls suddenly dressed up like hookers? Why are there suddenly many young men killing their peers at school? How come the family unit is broken and different generations spend less time with each other, with their blood (listen to MJ in Oxford)? How come money seems to be ever more important than the wellbeing of people? Why is there a need for endless "growth" and "competitiveness" in business world? How come the school system and health care are eroding away?
The real eye opener was realizing that many of these things seemed to be happening in many countries simultaneously. An accident? Hardly.
The majority of people never ask questions like these and are quite content and happy with going to work, study, eat, watch tv, play computer games, raise a family, buy stuff, read the newspaper and watch the news that someone has chosen to be news that day. Once you have realized there's something going on, there's no return to the old ways of ignorant bliss.
Fear is the very factor here. In the history, those in power have controlled the masses with fear - the sky will fall down, the fear of God.. the best are the ones that can't be beaten.
Today it's fear of terrorism and fear of climate change. The ultimate launch to fear of terrorism was 9/11. A lot has changed after that.
Climate change used to be "global warming", but they changed it to "Climate change" because now it covers everything. And boy, don't the news carry some "The nature is bad to us" piece of news daily.
A lot of insane control has been put in place explaining it with climate change -like here - a town has ordered an obligatory veggie meal once a week for school children.
Don't take freedom for granted, because you have already lost good portions of it.
Nightowl, you explained it well. You hit right on the head with this one. I should share this with others so that they can see that this is real. You are right, it is happening very much like that all over and not just in the US. In regards to education. Me and gentlemen was talking about that last night at church. I posted info in regards to the education system and there is an agenda with that too believe it or not. if you read William "Bill" Cooper book, "Behold A Pale Horse." He says alot about what you just explained. If anyone finds this book in circulation it is a miracle because they pretty much pulled majority of this book off the shelves.
How sad it is to see our U.S. Constitution being rewritten right before our very eyes. I do believe that our forefathers are literally turning in their graves.
I get the whole "ahhh they are taking away my rights" thing and people have the fear of being controlled. I like my freedom but this is just a bunch of bs. Like the government CARES WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT ONLINE. The government is made up of people (monkeys) like YOU and ME and I think that literally somebody could be looking up "how to make an atomic bomb" online and nothing would even happen to them!
Oooh sorry for my radical point of view. And if something like this were to happen it would be for a DAMN good reason such as terrorism etc.
Sorry, but that's really naive. Your opinion and that's fine, but if I were you I would catch up a little on what is discussed here.
Do you know that your web accounts are already under control of the governments? They check out your Facebook, Twitter, emails etc. I was horrified when a friend of mine told me about Facebook. I checked it out myself and found out that different IPs got into my account from different cities. Especially from the capital city of my country. I told friends to do the same and some of them found out that some others got into their accounts as well. Just go and check out your FB accounts. You can find it in your Account Settings. Account Security. Check the recent activity.
We have no privacy. They want to know all. They want total control over us. They want us to be their puppets. This is horrible.
I saw a news talk show recently on Fox where they were saying the FCC has put regulations on the internet that can only be passed by congress. Many are appalled by the audacity of this administration to set regulations into motion with no lawful authority to do so. It is my understanding that the newly elected congress intends to address this issue in the very near future. I wish I could remember the name of the program I saw this on. There was a congressman they were interviewing about this very subject.
Well said indeed yet as a common man, our worries are not the government but what has become of the society. The government doesn't tell a guy to rob an old lady, government doesn't tell someone to start killing in series, government doesn't tell someone to steal from others, the government doesn't tell someone to go and shoot people at work or students in school.
Of course it's not that direct and simple, everyone understands that. Between you and the government (which may not be the true leaders of a country) are a lot of people and byrocracy.
Think of a pyramid. It's not the CEO of a corporation that tells directly the factory guy tightening the screw on the belt that next week he's going to tighten another screw. The CEO won't be the one to tell him directly that 5 months from now the screw will be tightened by some other guy in China and he'll be unemployed. So the greedy owners and/or the board members, who never meet the factory guy, can still make his and his family's life really miserable. He might go rob someone to get by.
If you are ok with the coming ID system, no one can tell you to think otherwise. Whatever makes one feel comfortable is a subjective thing.
If you have interest to understand the other alternative viewpoint that is brought up on this board, here's a link to a video that presents it well:
[youtube:2xzykvc5]
Nightowl, you explained it well. You hit right on the head with this one. I should share this with others so that they can see that this is real. You are right, it is happening very much like that all over and not just in the US. In regards to education. Me and gentlemen was talking about that last night at church. I posted info in regards to the education system and there is an agenda with that too believe it or not. if you read William "Bill" Cooper book, "Behold A Pale Horse." He says alot about what you just explained. If anyone finds this book in circulation it is a miracle because they pretty much pulled majority of this book off the shelves.
Thank you, Infinitylady. Watch and share the video I posted above. It was an eye-opener for myself. Thanks for the book tip. I recently purchased "How The Rich Are Destroying The Earth" by Hervé Kempf. Haven't read it yet, though, but I heard about it in the radio.
I think US is ahead of many countries in this agenda. My location certainly is behind, and that's why it is easy to predict where we are heading to.
Thanks. It's time for us to wake up folks whether you are believers in God or choose not to believe or whatever, but your choice good or bad will be your own consequence or nobody else.
I am not saying you can't enjoy your life, family, continue to pursue your purpose with much as you can and all possible. However, we can't continue to have this mindset of being so comfortable that nothing can touch the US, nothing can happen to us. Nothing will NEVER happen. That is NEVER LIE!! and you are decieved to the core if your mind is comfortable in believing this. It's time to change the mindset!!!
Not preaching, but I gotta say what I gotta say!! but get right with Christ because they are doing everything to bring the one world rule and one world religion WORLDWIDE. Deny the mark and you will be persecuted better yet you may get the death penatly for not recieving of the mark and not accepting the one world dictator as the one who will call himself the Christ or God!! Keep dreaming and reevaluate your life and your soul. (The man in the mirror-YOU!!!!)
Thanks. It's time for us to wake up folks whether you are believers in God or choose not to believe or whatever, but your choice good or bad will be your own consequence or nobody else.
I am not saying you can't enjoy your life, family, continue to pursue your purpose with much as you can and all possible. However, we can't continue to have this mindset of being so comfortable that nothing can touch the US, nothing can happen to us. Nothing will NEVER happen. That is NEVER LIE!! and you are decieved to the core if your mind is comfortable in believing this. It's time to change the mindset!!!
Not preaching, but I gotta say what I gotta say!! but get right with Christ because they are doing everything to bring the one world rule and one world religion WORLDWIDE. Deny the mark and you will be persecuted better yet you may get the death penatly for not recieving of the mark and not accepting the one world dictator as the one who will call himself the Christ or God!! Keep dreaming and reevaluate your life and your soul. (The man in the mirror-YOU!!!!)
i don't know if this will make sense to anyone . this is kind of the same as with my husbands health situation. looking back i can see that there were some things that were not quite right with him for longer than we realized. we just looked at it as he is getting older , working a lot of hours, mourning his fathers death , yada yada yada. instead of looking deeper and seeing the real culprit. maybe we could have avoided some of what he is having to go through . i don't know if anyone can relate this to what we are talking about ,but i just want to put it out there.
Thanks. It's time for us to wake up folks whether you are believers in God or choose not to believe or whatever, but your choice good or bad will be your own consequence or nobody else.
I am not saying you can't enjoy your life, family, continue to pursue your purpose with much as you can and all possible. However, we can't continue to have this mindset of being so comfortable that nothing can touch the US, nothing can happen to us. Nothing will NEVER happen. That is NEVER LIE!! and you are decieved to the core if your mind is comfortable in believing this. It's time to change the mindset!!!
Not preaching, but I gotta say what I gotta say!! but get right with Christ because they are doing everything to bring the one world rule and one world religion WORLDWIDE. Deny the mark and you will be persecuted better yet you may get the death penatly for not recieving of the mark and not accepting the one world dictator as the one who will call himself the Christ or God!! Keep dreaming and reevaluate your life and your soul. (The man in the mirror-YOU!!!!)
i don't know if this will make sense to anyone . this is kind of the same as with my husbands health situation. looking back i can see that there were some things that were not quite right with him for longer than we realized. we just looked at it as he is getting older , working a lot of hours, mourning his fathers death , yada yada yada. instead of looking deeper and seeing the real culprit. maybe we could have avoided some of what he is having to go through . i don't know if anyone can relate this to what we are talking about ,but i just want to put it out there.
I can relate but it would be in regards to my son who attitude has changed. He has lost motivation. Doesn't focus at school. I don't know if this would be similiar but like you I believe there were things that I could have done better and put in place.
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Make whatever you want to make of it and if you choose to keep your eyes closed to this, that is your choice. But in my opinion that is naive. When someone calls me naive on a certain subject, it triggers me to find out why and read up on it. If you won't no problem.
"For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."I think we should resist as much as we can to total control of the web and the individual using it. Stop the beginnings before it is too late. It all starts without the masses realizing at once and gradually step by step you're trapped. A warning can only be meant well and if one wouldn't care, you would be addressed in a less direct way and you would be told in the softest voice ever not to be afraid, all is well, it is all for your best. You don't have anything to hide, is the most common one. But that is not the point. The information collected can serve many purposes, and certainly not in our best interest.
Freedom doesn't come for free, it has been a long struggle over the centuries, and nothing can be taken for granted, especially not freedom. We will cherish it most, when we have lost it. Freedom is very precious and not everyone is lucky to have it.
They can't introduce it if enough people resist their wicked agenda, because they fear not being elected again. That is what they fear most - losing control and power. The constituents are powerful if they use their rights to say NO to some BS, their governments want to introduce.
You see, some monkeys learned how to use the chair to reach the bananas hanging from the ceiling. And they won't tell the rest of us, because monkeys have a hierarchy system and those on top of the pyramid want to stay there. Since they control the supply of the bananas, they can control many other aspects in our lives. We need to serve them (eat their fleas) to get bananas. They give no more than enough to keep us content and serving them.
To maintain their control, to suppress any thoughts of challenge and to prevent our knowledge about the chair that we might learn to use, they sometimes make our lives misery, say, cut down the ration of bananas. To keep their position, they have to know what you are doing, especially if they sense that some monkeys are not happy with their leadership. <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
There are many people on this board, and in this section especially, who think that something's not right in this world we live in. In a nutshell, that there is a global agenda led by a relatively small amount of people who control how things are - more than we realize - versus the general thought that we, the general public, have control over how many things are.
Some people have asked what does this have to do with MJ. Some listers believe that MJ became aware of this agenda and a victim of it (constant public ridicule, pedo accusations, sudden death). Some believe he is still alive, hoaxing his death and planning a return to expose this agenda. Either way, what is brought up on this board about the agenda is just a fraction of all the information that exists.
Have you ever questionned why something is different now than, say, ten years ago? I did a few years ago. I started noticing little things, with no connection to each other in the beginning. I begun to wonder why young girls suddenly dressed up like hookers? Why are there suddenly many young men killing their peers at school? How come the family unit is broken and different generations spend less time with each other, with their blood (listen to MJ in Oxford)? How come money seems to be ever more important than the wellbeing of people? Why is there a need for endless "growth" and "competitiveness" in business world? How come the school system and health care are eroding away?
The real eye opener was realizing that many of these things seemed to be happening in many countries simultaneously. An accident? Hardly.
The majority of people never ask questions like these and are quite content and happy with going to work, study, eat, watch tv, play computer games, raise a family, buy stuff, read the newspaper and watch the news that someone has chosen to be news that day. Once you have realized there's something going on, there's no return to the old ways of ignorant bliss.
Fear is the very factor here. In the history, those in power have controlled the masses with fear - the sky will fall down, the fear of God.. the best are the ones that can't be beaten.
Today it's fear of terrorism and fear of climate change. The ultimate launch to fear of terrorism was 9/11. A lot has changed after that.
Climate change used to be "global warming", but they changed it to "Climate change" because now it covers everything. And boy, don't the news carry some "The nature is bad to us" piece of news daily.
A lot of insane control has been put in place explaining it with climate change -like here - a town has ordered an obligatory veggie meal once a week for school children.
Don't take freedom for granted, because you have already lost good portions of it.
Nightowl, with your permission I am going to quote your post everytime someone comes around that still thinks we are living in a happy and fantastic world. What a great summary of the problems in this world in a very understandable, thought provoking and eye opening way.
"For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."Freedom is not having nothing to hide.
Freedom is walking in peace and on your own feet without being constantly followed and observed and without having the path directed whereto we walk.
We had a lot of bloodshed for freedom in all those centuries. Bloodshed for freedom is still ongoing reality in many many wars taking place RIGHT NOW.
There are more people living in non-freedom on this planet than those that are living in so-proclaimed freedom.
Those held in permanent captivity of dictatorship are tearing walls down, they are dying on streets for more freedom.
Those living in relative freedom which many people on this planet would die for dare telling that they have nothing to hide and therefore nothing against more control?
Seems a basic value of life is not appreciated anymore - well keep going and keep silent.
Consequently, more control will not harm you and you will be happy for now.
Just that I'm afraid if you don't mind now, one day you'll mind.
One remark about all those proud parents feeding the web with their toddler's photos.
They are feeding mug shots from very early days.
One day their kids will wish their parents to hell for having laid the ground of total control on their lives. Who intensively is using facebook is voluntarily giving up control over his life.
facebook has been linked to yahoo and google not for "we love you" reasons.
God bless those in Tunisia who did not mind to die on the streets for freedom of their country.
It is time to open our eyes.
Peace, freedom and love be and stay available for every soul on this earth.
And when I log in to chk my bank account details, I really do want security. This might be different to what's goin on, but dont we all want some kinda privacy security when we put in our credit card details?? So many people I know had their Ids stolen coz of hackers or just coz they checked their details on a public computer. I'm just saying....
Thank you for the compliment, Souza, and permission granted. These are the times of spreading the word and encouraging people to think outside the box.
Our concerns these days are not getting on that chair to get bananas but to save the bananas that we do have from other monkeys or being killed by others.
I'm not saying government doesnt make mistakes. In fact I don't agree with war. I don't like the fact that the governments decide to fight but it's the innocent people who die. I don't like politics played well by politicians. Yet I am glad they aren't there coz that gives us just some discipline in society. Their rules protect us too. What direct affect our day to day to life directly are the killings on the street, the murders etc etc. Our problem is we can't fight against it all. We cant fight against the guns, the weapons, the robberies alone just like we can't fight poverty, inflation, war etc. Can we really tell companies to not cut more trees? Yet government has passed bills in the past that have helped us. For me, if government introduces a system that secures our privacy, well I'm atleast up for it coz the times we live in, it's the most needed. I see Souza called someone naive- not offensive but I see it as a difference of opinion. I guess she can call me naive too but it's really how we perceive the society we live in today. I do miss the times when you knew every thing about your neighbor and everything was simple and nice. But now it's all about wanting more or wanting to be someone important- the guy with all the bananas but we cant blame where we are just on the government. I guess I'm being a neutral coz I realize what's wrong in our society.
Ringing bells. The Last Man in Europe. George Orwell.
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Hey you go. but, It's there. i saw it you may have to search it on that site through their archives.
I can tell you something though. They have been talking about it on the radio all week about this. I mean, it would be them watching you with every post from Facebook, Twitter, whereever. It is just insane and straight stupid and ridiculous. <!-- s:| -->:|<!-- s:| --> <!-- s:twisted: -->:twisted:<!-- s:twisted: -->
Nightowl, you explained it well. You hit right on the head with this one. I should share this with others so that they can see that this is real. You are right, it is happening very much like that all over and not just in the US. In regards to education. Me and gentlemen was talking about that last night at church. I posted info in regards to the education system and there is an agenda with that too believe it or not. if you read William "Bill" Cooper book, "Behold A Pale Horse." He says alot about what you just explained. If anyone finds this book in circulation it is a miracle because they pretty much pulled majority of this book off the shelves.
It's sad ain't it. It is just really sad.
You got that right!!!
We have no privacy. They want to know all. They want total control over us. They want us to be their puppets. This is horrible.
Of course it's not that direct and simple, everyone understands that. Between you and the government (which may not be the true leaders of a country) are a lot of people and byrocracy.
Think of a pyramid. It's not the CEO of a corporation that tells directly the factory guy tightening the screw on the belt that next week he's going to tighten another screw. The CEO won't be the one to tell him directly that 5 months from now the screw will be tightened by some other guy in China and he'll be unemployed. So the greedy owners and/or the board members, who never meet the factory guy, can still make his and his family's life really miserable. He might go rob someone to get by.
If you are ok with the coming ID system, no one can tell you to think otherwise. Whatever makes one feel comfortable is a subjective thing.
If you have interest to understand the other alternative viewpoint that is brought up on this board, here's a link to a video that presents it well:
[youtube:2xzykvc5]
Thank you, Infinitylady. Watch and share the video I posted above. It was an eye-opener for myself. Thanks for the book tip. I recently purchased "How The Rich Are Destroying The Earth" by Hervé Kempf. Haven't read it yet, though, but I heard about it in the radio.
I think US is ahead of many countries in this agenda. My location certainly is behind, and that's why it is easy to predict where we are heading to.
Thanks. It's time for us to wake up folks whether you are believers in God or choose not to believe or whatever, but your choice good or bad will be your own consequence or nobody else.
I am not saying you can't enjoy your life, family, continue to pursue your purpose with much as you can and all possible. However, we can't continue to have this mindset of being so comfortable that nothing can touch the US, nothing can happen to us. Nothing will NEVER happen. That is NEVER LIE!! and you are decieved to the core if your mind is comfortable in believing this. It's time to change the mindset!!!
Not preaching, but I gotta say what I gotta say!! but get right with Christ because they are doing everything to bring the one world rule and one world religion WORLDWIDE. Deny the mark and you will be persecuted better yet you may get the death penatly for not recieving of the mark and not accepting the one world dictator as the one who will call himself the Christ or God!! Keep dreaming and reevaluate your life and your soul. (The man in the mirror-YOU!!!!)
I can relate but it would be in regards to my son who attitude has changed. He has lost motivation. Doesn't focus at school. I don't know if this would be similiar but like you I believe there were things that I could have done better and put in place.