<br />I posted this on the TIAI thread but thought it should go here too:<br /><br />To me it looks like there is an image of a face photoshopped along his chest and down his abdomen. Almost like the image on the Shroud of Turin…but not exactly the same face. Here are the two pics below to compare:<br /><br />The Shroud of Turin parallel is interesting: <br /><br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shroud_of_Turin<br /><br />It is a linen cloth bearing the image of a man who appears to have suffered physical trauma in a manner consistent with crucifixion. It is kept in the royal chapel of the Cathedral of Saint John the Baptist in Turin, northern Italy. The image on the shroud is commonly associated with Jesus Christ, his crucifixion and burial. The origins of the shroud and its image are the subject of intense debate among scientists, theologians, historians and researchers.<br /><br />There is a lot of debate as to whether the Shroud is authentic or if it is a fake….just like there is about this supposed autopsy picture of Michael!!!!!!!! <br /><br /><br />There is no way I am going to lose faith due to this picture. We know the ambo pic is fake, we know the death picture on the gurney is fake, we know so much about this entire thing is fake…so why wouldn’t this one be fake as well?<br /><br />The media are gorging on this picture like the vultures they are.<br /><br /><br />
<br /><br />Wow...ok, that is really "freaky"! I can see the image that you are talking about, it is very clear! Regardless of any of this, I just don't get any "feelings" that Michael is dead. This picture is "sad", but IF it is Michael, he isn't dead and the photo has definetly been "altered". The other option, is that this is a staged "replica body" ,( like the one from Leave Me Alone), of what Michael would look like if he were dead.<br /><br />It has been quite a day today, but I will not lose Faith! We can't forget what we have uncovered over the last 2+ years...Michael is ALIVE, and the Truth Will Prevail in due time.<br /><br />Just think, most of the world believe he is dead, and after releasing this picture, it seems like we are losing some of our "Believers", so even more people think he is dead, which will make Michael's BAM even more shocking, then it would have been before this pic was released!<br /><br />I'm sure before this trial is over, our "Faith" will be tested even more, but we can't lose hope family!<br /><br />I Love you all so very much!! Here are a bunch of hugs for all of you having a rough time right now!<br /> bearhug bearhug bearhug bearhug bearhug bearhug bearhug
Sorry if this is off topic but did anyone else find the coroner to be like a doctor out of a horror movie? When he first took the stand today my first thought was this was the stangest man I have seen! His movements seemed over acted. His speech slow and quiet, he never looked up, always down or to the side. He seemed to be the typical autopsy doc portrayed in "B" rated movies! Did anyone else see this?
<br />Sorry if this is off topic but did anyone else find the coroner to be like a doctor out of a horror movie? When he first took the stand today my first thought was this was the stangest man I have seen! His movements seemed over acted. His speech slow and quiet, he never looked up, always down or to the side. He seemed to be the typical autopsy doc portrayed in "B" rated movies! Did anyone else see this?<br />
<br /><br />I will say he acted a little strange to me, I just chalked it up his line of work and maybe he was nervous about testifying not only in court but knowing the whole world is watching. Did I read too much into that? lolol/
<br />I posted this in the TIAI thread, but I will post it here too:<br /><br />
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<br />Okay, so I did a little de-sqeezing and I think this is more accurate:<br /><br /><br /><br />I think they sqeezed it horizontally to make him look skinnier (well I think more narrow defines it better, because he sure doesn't look skeletal). By de-sqeezing it, his body looks way more in proportion. I don't think mine is 100% accurate, but the shoulders are broader, the neck shorter and the body looks more in proportion, so I think it's at least a lot closer to accuracy than the original. And if this is really his body anno 2009, I must say he looks pretty damn fine for a anorexic junkie... <br />
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<br />I posted this in the TIAI thread, but I will post it here too:<br /><br />
on 1318380592:
<br />Okay, so I did a little de-sqeezing and I think this is more accurate:<br /><br /><br /><br />I think they sqeezed it horizontally to make him look skinnier (well I think more narrow defines it better, because he sure doesn't look skeletal). By de-sqeezing it, his body looks way more in proportion. I don't think mine is 100% accurate, but the shoulders are broader, the neck shorter and the body looks more in proportion, so I think it's at least a lot closer to accuracy than the original. And if this is really his body anno 2009, I must say he looks pretty damn fine for a anorexic junkie... <br />
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<br /> <br />He looks too young, the abdomen is too firm for a "skeletical " guy and we all know that , when lying on a plane surface the ribs are more visible; the eyebrows are not his and on the right shoulder there is something like a hidden tattoo...or a pigmentation spot? Look at his hand...the skin it's way to young. It looks to me like a dummy . <br /> <br />
<br />[size=12pt]I showed this picture to my doctor friend, he said, it is a fake.. First of all, when you do autopsy on a person you cut a person into a V shape from the neck half way to the waist. The doctor said he did autopsy to the heart he had a great heart so tell me if he is not cut how did they check the heart, the lungs etc.. If you see the picture he has a gun shot wound in the middle of his chest. Thanks to my friend who saw. This is a person who got shot in the chest, or a prosthetic picture make believe it is Michael. Now I will post a picture the real autopsy.. It may be graphic, believe me I got squimish. At least it will make us understand once in for all it is not Michael [/size] <br />
<br /><br />Thank you so much for clarifying that @all4loveandbelieve. I was wondering what that was .... I'm glad someone clarified that bc I just called some of my family on thoughts on the photo which made things no better...and I'm sitting up here literally sobbing. :'( Anywho, thanks again. Your posts are always motivational and provide hope as well as faith. ) <br />
<br /> <br />Glad I was of help.. keep the faith dear, it is easier to give up then to continue going. If you need to talk you can always count on me.. blessings.<br />
<br /><br />Thanks! bearhug Much appreciation. <br />
<br />Hate to disappoint but they said this pic was taken pre-autopsy, so there wouldn't be a Y incision. But being fake, does it matter? <br />Regarding the red open sore on his chest; this could be where they supposedly put in the heart ballon pump. But keep in mind they would have to make this photo coincide with what was said in court and in the AR. <br />Zooming in on his face; I, too think the eyes are wrong and so are the eyebrows. If this picture is actually of a real person who died on that day then my bets are on the guy who did the costume fitting. See video below. Pay close attention to when they show him in the silver pants and white tee. He's so skinny I doubt this guy could hole up most of the costumes. His nose is also way to long and pointy. And let's not forget all the dental implanst and venires mention by the coroner today. <br />Here's the costume vid, again...<br /> [embed=425,349] />And here he is hours before he "died". Yes, he's wearing a lot of clothes but if you pause it in certain places as he bends you can see his legs are not as skinny and when his jacket lifts up his torso is also not as thin. Definitely not the long narrow skinny guy we see in this coroner pic.<br />[embed=425,349] />
<br />They are showing this picture so all can be put to rest, including Michael. They are well aware of the hoax. Michael has gone to meet his maker and as difficult as it must be for those of you who have spent endless hours connecting dots and theories; There comes a time when you have to say stop. A time of acceptance. A time to greive. If there is anything positive to be gained by this hoax is that you all have 2 years spent together and you will be able to support each other through this time of sorrow. The majority of the world has already cried their tears and we are prepared to be here for all of you as you begin your walk down that path.<br /><br />Blessings and major love to you all.<br />
<br />Have you read the AR? If that report is Michael Jackson... I'm Queen Elizabeth!<br />
<br /> <br />@Love4MJ I want to tell YOU to stop. You don't believe, so please leave us alone. <br />Why do non-believers keep coming here to tell us what we should think crash/ ? <br />I actually don't need your advices to form my own opinion. <br />
<br /><br />Wrong information tmz.Not naked afraid/ !<br />Private part is not in sight <br />But this is what the world wanted to see.<br />Not?<br />But just another fact.<br />Does a coroner take a picture from above hanging on the ceeling?<br />Guess he does that only when it is Michael Jackson. lolol/ <br />What a great view!<br /><br />
<br /><br /><br />Overview, mountain view, grill view, ladder view, pyramid view from the top down - whatever you like LOL - I was going to mention the great perspective chosen but I was too tired from the incoherent blubbering of participants and so-called "proof" in court LOL <br /><br />seriously - anybody here from a coroner to confirm there is usually a camera hanging from the ceiling or was it the CCTV digital still camera in the hospital taking that pic? that would however explain the poor quality <br /><br />He is being pictured being still in sheets - at the coroner a body is not in sheets but on the blank stainless steel - which is freezingly cold ....<br />
Things I don't understand:<br /><br />-why he looks so young<br />-why his lips are so red<br />-why his neck is smooth and shiny like it's made of wax<br />-why his body is not skeletal<br />-why his face/cheeks are fuller than we know<br />
I posted this on the other thread about this pic.<br /><br />One doesn't have to go too far back with Front's posts to see him hinting for us:<br />
Question #1: Have we seen any evidence that confirms MJ is dead?--sorry, photoshopped pics, hearsay, media outlets, "official" medical report$ and acting are not applicable! (oops, well I guess that "murders" THAT theory!) Hint: there's only one possible CORRECT box to check for this question and that is----> "NO"<br /><br />Question #2: Have we seen any evidence (clues, connections, intentional "mistakes", etc.) that refute the fallacy that MJ is dead? Hint: the correct answer to this question contains the letters H-Y…….Hell Yes!!!
They are showing this picture so all can be put to rest, including Michael. They are well aware of the hoax. Michael has gone to meet his maker and as difficult as it must be for those of you who have spent endless hours connecting dots and theories; There comes a time when you have to say stop. A time of acceptance. A time to greive. If there is anything positive to be gained by this hoax is that you all have 2 years spent together and you will be able to support each other through this time of sorrow. The majority of the world has already cried their tears and we are prepared to be here for all of you as you begin your walk down that path.<br /><br />Blessings and major love to you all.
<br />I'm sure Front would have words for you as well! The point is really that you're missing all the fun, adventure, community and collaborating with MJ! And you are completely faithless in Michael and his most important dream!
Oh the paramedic said they intubated him, but didn't say how they did this. I know intubation is usually made in the neck. Could that red spot on his chest be from intubation? I am not qualified in medical field, is it possible they intubated him directly through the chest?<br /><br />Or is it possible the intubation was made through the nose?<br /><br />I am asking because there is no mark of intubation on the neck.
I am confused about the date 25/08.....could someone tell me when was the autopsy made?<br />They took him to the coroner on the same day later in the afternoon, but when was the official autopsy made? Only in august?!?!??!<br />I had the (wrong) idea they made the autopsy the next day or so.
OMG that is scary,<br />just for fun I looked up what happend on the Date 25.08.2009<br />The first Thing what Google showed me was that Video. Do you remember this?<br /><br /><br /><br />This Video was made from the German TV-Station RTL. Later they confirmed that it is fake and<br />that they did it only to prove how easy it is to start a HOAX.<br />Nothing in this Case is a Coincidence. Did you ever look in the copyright.gov under the Name<br />Micheal Jackson. When not you should do it. This is something only Michael<br />would know. I have heard from different people that he had a lot of fear that someone would<br />kill him because he have the catalog. So I believe that he copyrighted a lot of his Song under<br />a fake Name and only he would know about it. All these recently leaked snippets for example<br />Black Widow, Fall in Love and so on aren't registerd under his Name.<br /><br />Much Peace and Love to everyone.<br /><br /><br />
The pic rearly looks real....don't know what to think....are there two Michael Jackson as we discussed often here ?<br />One thin and ill and the other one healthy ? One of them died. That can prove the different tellings from ppl.....one never able to perform, and one in great condition. Nobody lies when they say sometimes so and other times so....like Kenny...both are Michael Jackson ( remeber the AEG contract...there where two lines for the hand signature from Michael Jackson ) and they talk sometimes from the ill one, sometimes from the healthy one..... afraid/ <br />I see the dark spot on the left leg from the man on the pic....the area is there where Michael Jackson was bitten by a spider....it was mentioned at the autopsie report as well.....but in the autopsie report they say he had nearly no hair....this man has very much hair...<br />By the way....a intubation was made through the mouth. A ballon catheter was given through a aorta in the heard, from the neck mostly.<br />At sweetangel, the video that you linked is from RTLGermany, yes and last Wednesday Prince, Paris and Blanket are guests from RTL Germany and they visited Fantasia Land and made a interview with RTL.<br />Again RTL....<br /> <br />
<br />[/quote]<br /><br /><br />Overview, mountain view, grill view, ladder view, pyramid view from the top down - whatever you like LOL - I was going to mention the great perspective chosen but I was too tired from the incoherent blubbering of participants and so-called "proof" in court LOL <br /><br />seriously - anybody here from a coroner to confirm there is usually a camera hanging from the ceiling or was it the CCTV digital still camera in the hospital taking that pic? that would however explain the poor quality <br /><br />He is being pictured being still in sheets - at the coroner a body is not in sheets but on the blank stainless steel - which is freezingly cold ....<br />[/quote]<br /><br /><br />You made a good point about the sheets thing. Even Tupac's autopsy photo was shown on a stainless steel table ...not on a stainless steel and sheets. PLUS, I looked @ the photo in close observation and noticed that where the pigmentation started and ended, there's a precise line like it was photoshopped and placed there. Then the middle of his stomach looks yellow. None of the pigmentation matches the rest of where it possibly should or could be. I'm also thinking, would Michael go as far to take a picture of himself in this manner just to amp up the hoax?
Hello underthemoon,<br />odd, isn't it. A few Weeks ago Prince was at the Bambi Awards, Michael was there back in 2001 or<br />2002 too. Now they were in Phantasialand, Michael was there too. Michael created a parfume back<br />in the 90. Now we get new parfume. Sometimes I have the Feeling History is repeating itself.<br /><br />Much Peace and Love to everyone.
Because there were numerous threads going on about the same picture. So I merged them and the oldest post is always on top. I think most will understand we are now talking about the newly emerged picture shown at the trial. I will sticky this post of mine in this thread, to make sure this one is on top and people will see that it's about the new picture, if by any chance they didn't get that yet.
"For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."
Just wanted to point this out in regards to the lines of pigmentation shown on the photo. I put the photo in paint , and drew where the pigmentation starts and ends in precise lines. None of this looks in synq as far as coloring goes unless he tanned sections of his body and covered certain parts. The more I observe this photo, the more I believe it's www.FAKE.com.
When a person dies, the mouth is open and you have to put something under the head that the mouth stays close ...i miss so much words....but here he lays straight on the ???? and the head lay down....normaly the mouth would be open....if he was dead.... /white flag/
<br />Just wondered:<br /><br />Could those bands of different colour be because of some UV tube lighting or something?<br />
<br /><br />That's what I was thinking @ first but in all honestly ...either way, it still just looks weird like they put bits and pieces of the photo together.
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"For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."