Seriously Pearl?

SouzaSouza Posts: 9,400
edited August 2011 in News
I never comment a lot on other hoaxers but I just heard an interview Pearl has on her website and it pissed me off. Seriously Pearl, what are you thinking? The first  thing that pissed me off that your audio player with the interview is not working, as in you can't pause it or skip parts, but you also quite conveniently put the Google ad right behind it, while the rest of your site is centered. So when I tried to pause the interview, I clicked the fucking ad! How much are you forking in with that?<br /><br />Also, you need to stop promoting your stuff like that without mentioning to people that if they do NOT want to pay for your bad edited 'documentary', that they can read all about it on the many hoax forums out there where after all, YOU got your info from as well.<br /><br />Also, STOP talking about this hoax as if it's ONLY one big prank, a marketing plan to make more money. It's bigger than just that and the interviewer actually gave you 2 chances to bring up the seriousness behind this hoax. How could he justify all this? By helping others, by waking them the fuck up and by exposing the truth. Missed chance Pearl, although I don't think you really informed yourself about all that, because it's not FUN, is it? Maybe when you would bring that stuff in, people won't buy your book or 'documentary' anymore. Stop making money out of this and stop portraying Michael as a money and fame hungry person. How is it important that he is straight? Who the fuck cares? Is that the message he tried to get out there all his life? You make us look like desperate housewives looking for a hobby and a new husband, like lunatics. You know what I hope? That people who listened to the interview forgot the name of your book, documentaries (although that is hardly possible since you are very good at promoting yourself) and website, and that they will simply type "Michael Jackson Death Hoax" into Google, and end up right HERE, where they can get the same and MORE for [size=36pt]free[/size].<br /><br />I'll end my rant quoting Jermaine:<br /><br />
@Pearljr you shld be ashamed of yourself -- irresponsibly fanning the flames with your nonsensical speculation & false premise. that's all<br />
<br /><br />Sorry for the rant quys. I normally ignore her, but I am fed up with the crap. If I ever find out under which username or IP address she visits here, I will make sure she will never have access to this site again. Let's see if she will still be able to 'investigate'. Ugh!

"For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."

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  • Well said Souza. This is the ONLY forum I follow now. I feel that she is only in it for the "fame" and the money especially. She does not take this seriously. Its not just a game. We are talking about Michaels life, the planet, and our lives also. Piss off Pearl.<br /> >:(
  • fordtocarrfordtocarr Posts: 1,547
    Only one I'm on too!! 
  • simalvessimalves Posts: 730
    I agree Souza I am fed up of her too.
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    <br />I never comment a lot on other hoaxers but I just heard an interview Pearl has on her website and it pissed me off. Seriously Pearl, what are you thinking? The first  thing that pissed me off that your audio player with the interview is not working, as in you can't pause it or skip parts, but you also quite conveniently put the Google ad right behind it, while the rest of your site is centered. So when I tried to pause the interview, I clicked the fucking ad! How much are you forking in with that?<br /><br />Also, you need to stop promoting your stuff like that without mentioning to people that if they do NOT want to pay for your bad edited 'documentary', that they can read all about it on the many hoax forums out there where after all, YOU got your info from as well.<br /><br />Also, STOP talking about this hoax as if it's ONLY one big prank, a marketing plan to make more money. It's bigger than just that and the interviewer actually gave you 2 chances to bring up the seriousness behind this hoax. How could he justify all this? By helping others, by waking them the fuck up and by exposing the truth. Missed chance Pearl, although I don't think you really informed yourself about all that, because it's not FUN, is it? Maybe when you would bring that stuff in, people won't buy your book or 'documentary' anymore. Stop making money out of this and stop portraying Michael as a money and fame hungry person. How is it important that he is straight? Who the fuck cares? Is that the message he tried to get out there all his life? You make us look like desperate housewives looking for a hobby and a new husband, like lunatics. You know what I hope? That people who listened to the interview forgot the name of your book, documentaries (although that is hardly possible since you are very good at promoting yourself) and website, and that they will simply type "Michael Jackson Death Hoax" into Google, and end up right HERE, where they can get the same and MORE for [size=36pt]free[/size].<br /><br />I'll end my rant quoting Jermaine:<br /><br />
    @Pearljr you shld be ashamed of yourself -- irresponsibly fanning the flames with your nonsensical speculation & false premise. that's all<br />
    <br /><br />Sorry for the rant quys. I normally ignore her, but I am fed up with the crap. If I ever find out under which username or IP address she visits here, I will make sure she will never have access to this site again. Let's see if she will still be able to 'investigate'. Ugh!<br />
    <br /><br /><br />[size=12pt]What are you talking about????? :?<br />I'm so sorry to tell you this but I dont agree with you ,not this time.She is a wonderful woman,who has the power to go on TV and internet to tell people Michael faked his death,knowing she will be ridiculed by everyone.Remember she stood by Michael during 2005 trial,defending him,from people who called him child molester.She was there LIVE and NOT BEHIND A COMPUTER.Everyone was against him and there were not many who be by his side.SO MAY I ASK,WHERE WERE YOU THEN??????Why are you so against Pearl?? :?:[/size]
  • blankieblankie Posts: 2,350
    I agree Souza  >:(...[size=10pt].TOTALLY[/size]<br />Unfortunately, there are a lot of bad and envious  people..... as we well know .. >:( :(...the truth is that the hoax is very important and these people know it and so.... ::) :P<br /><br />I and, I think, everyone are here can not do anything except that thank you for all your work  bearhug    bow/<br /><br />We are a family.... :)...these people never will experience the love and the emotions that we have  here.... ;))....So....<br /><br />                                                [size=18pt]    SHAMONE[/size]<br /><br />  [size=14pt]  We are the best !!!![/size]  :) beerchug michael-jackson/<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /> moonwalk_/<br />
  • SouzaSouza Posts: 9,400
    I am not complaining that she seeks the attention of the media, I would be tha LAST person to do that. I am sick of her ever lasting hungry for money and the Google ad behind the fake media player did it for me. I clicked that ad 3 times because I wanted to pause the interview and I thought I didn't click right. And the fact that she keeps ignoring questions about the message behind the hoax, tells me that she doesn't want to bring that up because she might lose audience, which means less $$$ coming in.<br /><br />I know about her covering the trial in 2005 and I don't think I said anything about that. I also don't think you asking me where I was back then, is fair. We don't all live in the US, some of us have jobs and I for one, never followed Michael Jackson's life. Does that mean I didn't support him? BS. But there are many people who are supportive of him for their own gain, sad but true. And don't forget that while you, me and everyone else on here have sleepless nights to investigate the truth, she is forking in the $$ with our ideas and theories, while she conveniently forgets that there is an important message behind all this.<br /><br />You don't have to agree with me, but attacking me for not being in Santa Barbara during the trial is a little unfair, don't you think? I wrote a very long article about the trial and the 1993 accusations last year, so don't tell me I am not supportive.

    "For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."

  • ForstAMoonForstAMoon Posts: 1,126
    Well said Souza! and I really do not like the way she "promotes" the hoax. <br /><br />If I remember correctly Pearl was NOT a believer from the beginning. I either watched an interview with her when she was like, seriously? what are you talking about?, hoax? ... or it might have been radio interview.... will try to find it.
  • What I don't like about this is proving a point in an INAPPROPRIATE manner. Besides the money making, of course... which wouldn't matter so much after all... All that is disrespectful to Michael, his family, his fans. Proving your point unscrupulously is worse than doing nothing. If we're talking about such a wonderful person why isn't that proven now, just by being modest?! A serious MJ supporter if not a fan or a close person would have considered that from the very beginning. <br /><br /> respect/
  • [size=10pt]Souza, do you really think she comes into our forum and get all the information, so she can write a book and make money, after we did all the investigations? Wow! that is absurd. Is there a way you can block access to people who are snooping around, who are not members? There are some forum you need to join in order to read. Maybe you should consider it! <br /><br />I feel Pearl has 2 face.(hyppocrite) If you noticed everytime she does a youtube video, she has the commercial of her book. haha.. Why should we buy her book when she wrote all the clues we found here.  <br /><br />Souza you  know what to do if you see her IP number. blessings[/size].
  • SouzaSouza Posts: 9,400
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    <br />[size=10pt]Souza, do you really think she comes into our forum and get all the information, so she can write a book and make money, after we did all the investigations? Wow! that is absurd. Is there a way you can block access to people who are snooping around, who are not members? There are some forum you need to join in order to read. Maybe you should consider it! [/size].<br />
    <br /><br />That's not an option, because I want this forum to be accessible tor anyone, because I want people to read what we investigate. We are not a secret society you have to join in order to read the info, and I don't want people to pay for the info. It should all be freely accessible to everyone.

    "For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."

  • I was curious to see what was said...or rather apparently NOT said (re: Souza's missed opportunity comment) but the vid won't even load for me.  Oh well...maybe someone can enlighten me to more details.  From what you stated Souza...it sounded like more personal hype than substantive hoax information.  Sad if true yet again.  We need people representing the facts responsibly...NOT out for self-promotion.  If she dodged all the important questions it makes the beLIEver community lose credibility (yet again) with an audience of people who may be new to the subject.  SMH
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    on 1313934230:
    <br />[size=10pt]Souza, do you really think she comes into our forum and get all the information, so she can write a book and make money, after we did all the investigations? Wow! that is absurd. Is there a way you can block access to people who are snooping around, who are not members? There are some forum you need to join in order to read. Maybe you should consider it! [/size].<br />
    <br /><br />That's not an option, because I want this forum to be accessible tor anyone, because I want people to read what we investigate. We are not a secret society you have to join in order to read the info, and I don't want people to pay for the info. It should all be freely accessible to everyone.<br />
    <br /> <br />This was in response to your post, that she took information from this forum. It was just a suggestion Souza, It is your forum and you can do what ever you want with it. blessings.
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    on 1313934230:
    <br />Souza, do you really think she comes into our forum and get all the information, so she can write a book and make money, after we did all the investigations? Wow! that is absurd. Is there a way you can block access to people who are snooping around, who are not members? There are some forum you need to join in order to read. Maybe you should consider it! .<br />
    <br /><br />That's not an option, because I want this forum to be accessible tor anyone, because I want people to read what we investigate. We are not a secret society you have to join in order to read the info, and I don't want people to pay for the info. It should all be freely accessible to everyone.<br />
    <br /> <br />Just know that you are doing an excellent thing by keeping this forum free and accessible to the public or the majority of us may have never wandered on here. I have been starting to get a little impatient with Pearl myself and its a bit hard for me just for the fact that she had supported MJ during the most trying time of his life and as a fan and fellow human being I am forever grateful that she had the guts to do that. But now, she is just a copy and paste phony and I don't like saying that at all. She is taking any oppurtunity to cash in on MJ's hoax and its a bit of a slap in the face because MJ fans had taken her in. The Jackson fam has, too. I don't know what she's doing anymore. I don't go on her site anymore, I don't watch her YT vids. I just come here where I know folks are genuine and there's no hidden agenda or BS with any of you.
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    <br />I was curious to see what was said...or rather apparently NOT said (re: Souza's missed opportunity comment) but the vid won't even load for me.  Oh well...maybe someone can enlighten me to more do this,etails.  From what you stated Souza...it sounded like more personal hype than substantive hoax information.  Sad if true yet again.  We need people representing the facts responsibly...NOT out for self-promotion.  If she dodged all the important questions it makes the beLIEver community lose credibility (yet again) with an audience of people who may be new to the subject.  SMH <br />
    <br /><br />[size=12pt]No,No people have to listen to this.I am now there and let me tell you she is telling alot of good things.I dont know what Souza is talking about,but Pearl is a very good inverstigator and I admire her very much.She is talking about Elvis hoax,about 8 ocomber 1994,about Michael middle name,about This is it movie,about Sony,about Beatles catalog,about the hoax- book that was on internet on 24 june 2009,about Marlon Brando island,about his comeback and alot of things I didn t knew before.She is not depreciatingly at all,in fact this interwiev,makes me love her even more.I'm very sure she is in the HOAX,she knows to much things that only a family friend can know.She already spoke one at one with Jermaine,Mesereau,Brandon Howard,Smokey Robinson ,Kenny Ortega,Joseph Jackson and who knows,maybe with Michael himself ;) :lol:..<br />And about gaining money from this hoax,by writing a book,please dont make me laugh ok,I'm sure she will become a bilionare,lol :lol:.This book is not an offense and is not a disrespect to anyone,not to his family,not to his fans and for sure not to Michael.Why this book has to be an offense for people,if is THE PURE TRUTH????? Is anyone afraid of what's the TRUTH may be??????<br />And why people have to attack Pearl,for writing a dam book ,when all his familly and friends,even his enemys,are doing this???? Where were they when Michael nedded all the support and the good words from them,to tell the press:LOOK THIS IS THE REAL MICHAEL AND WE ARE HIS FRIENDS AND FAMILLY!!!!!!Now all of them wants to be in the spot light ,to write books and make money,nothing more ;).<br />Pearl Junior has gain my respect and admiration,by writing this book about THE HOAX.She had the guts to do it ,to tell the world Michael faked his death,meantime the rest did nothing but write about his life and how "poor him ",died alone :x.[/size]<br /><br />[size=12pt]IT'S ALL FOR LOVE!![/size]
  • shamzshamz Posts: 100
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    <br />everyone else on here have [size=12pt]sleepless nights to investigate the truth[/size]<br />
    <br /><br />I agree. I'm the only person in my entire famly who is not only an MJ fan, but a beLIEver and a soldier in Michael's army of L.O.V.E.<br />So its not easy doing this without having anyone thinking I've gone crazy.  :-X
  • GINAFELICIAGINAFELICIA Posts: 6,506
    I don't like that she tries to make money of this hoax. <br />This says it all about her.<br />I never follow her or watch her videos. I once watched one and I didn't like her voice so I've never watched her again.
  • mrbigshotmrbigshot Posts: 456
    Unfortunately Souza has brought up a very distinct point, and frankly, I agree with her. Pearl takes advantage of her viewers to promote herself and her work for the opportunity to make money and she is taking the information that she discovered [blink]ON THIS WEBSITE[/blink] to claim it as her own. I can understand where Souza is coming from because this was a site that she established a couple of years ago and has flourished due to tireless effort and diligent investigation. Pearl simply just has to push a few buttons to receive the information in seconds that we have been working on for years and charging viewers who have not seen this site to pay for her documentaries and such. Obviously that would upset me too! I would be perfectly fine if she acknowledged that the information she found was from this site and worked TOGETHER with MULTIPLE people to investigate this hoax.  I don't see how you could possibly charge money for a poorly represented Documentary. 
  • I found her channel yesterday thinking she was one that truley belived in finding the truth and I had heard good things about her from the coverage she did on the trial,BUT I too listened to the interview with Jim and I agree i could not pause it, stop it nothing and she promoted the E-book and the "documentry on netflix" so many times that you forget what she was saying. I did notice as I viewed other videos that she has posted on YouTube that many of the conclusions and "Facts" was already posted on our YouTube channel( i hope im not stepping on toes with "our channel") but before I had seen all the same info i had left her a nice remark. Pearl Jr in my opinion sold out and stole ideas from others without giving people credit for them. You go Souza!!!
  • AndreaAndrea Posts: 3,787
    Pearl's take on the hoax seems very tunnel-visiony, like she doesn't see the bigger picture.  I hope some people aren't getting ALL their hoax info from her and I certainly hope they're not paying for it!<br /><br />And I must say that any videos of hers that I've seen - I had read the info in it here first BEFORE the video came out.<br />
  • starchildstarchild Posts: 374
    In Pearl’s defense, I don’t know her personally, but at one point, I did some brief PMing back and forth with her on YouTube, and she seems like a person of integrity—truly seems like just another hardcore MJ fan that has just spent more time and energy hoaxing than average.  She claims she hoaxes/reports on MJ full-time; that said, she’s got to earn some income.  However, I just watched her latest YT video, as well as listened to the latest audio interview posted on her website, and did not see any ads, Google or otherwise :?: .  For anyone interested, here’s a link to the audio interview that I think Souza is referring to (please correct me if I’m wrong, Souza):  http://www.michaeljacksoninsider.com/Is_Michael_Jackson_Alive_-_Conspiracy_Corner_12.mp3 (this opens in Windows Media), or it is also found on Pearl's website,  http://www.michaeljacksoninsider.com/, about an 1/8 of the way down the home page (it's the Jim Harold interview).                      <br /><br />Regarding Jermaine’s comment, Pearl has a couple photos posted on her website of herself and Jermaine at different MJ-related events, events to which she claims the Jackson family specifically invited her to report on, dated after June 25, 2009, and after her publication and posting of MJ death hoax materials (see the video below, 5:55-7:00).  So it sounds like Jermaine’s comment—“ @Pearljr you shld be ashamed of yourself -- irresponsibly fanning the flames with your nonsensical speculation & false premise”—may have been hoax related.                        <br /><br />Also in the video below (see 9:40-10:28), Pearl tells of the credit given within the documentary for the specific input provided by fellow hoaxers.  Having purchased the documentary, I can say this much is true--credit is indeed given to fellow hoaxers in writing and commentary.                  <br /><br />The degree of seriousness surrounding the hoax remains speculation.  In the end, if Pearl’s not on the up and up, then as we often say around here, the truth will come out one way or another.<br /><br /><br />
  • SouzaSouza Posts: 9,400
    Don't get me wrong, I am not pissed that she spreads the info of the hoax forums (not just this one) because anyone can share whatever is written here (that is why I keep it open for everyone to read), I am pissed that she charges money for it while most of it isn't even her own investigation. We do it for free, and if she wants to use it that's fine, but don't charge for it. Simple as that.<br /><br />For me the interview starts as soon as I go to the website, the player is on the top-left. And I have pictures of myself with Edwin van der Sar and all other kinds of soccer celebrities. Doesn't mean they know who I am or that they will share their biggest secrets for me. And I do not believe Pearl is in on the hoax, because if she was, she would have paid attention to the message, instead of trying to figure out stuff about his private life and how many children he has and with who.

    "For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."

  • Tink.I.AmTink.I.Am Posts: 878
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    <br />Souza, do you really think she comes into our forum and get all the information, so she can write a book and make money, after we did all the investigations? Wow! that is absurd. Is there a way you can block access to people who are snooping around, who are not members? There are some forum you need to join in order to read. Maybe you should consider it! <br /><br />I feel Pearl has 2 face.(hyppocrite) If you noticed everytime she does a youtube video, she has the commercial of her book. haha.. Why should we buy her book when she wrote all the clues we found here.  <br /><br />Souza you  know what to do if you see her IP number. blessings. <br />
    <br />acually it is not absurd. Pearl was on this or the other forum  at least at the beginning (I dont know if she still is).<br />She did tell everyone that she was planing on writing a book and that she was going to use the information from the forum(s).<br />after soem time we were starting to as ourselves if she made any money of our investigations... and we all said that profiting from the hoax community is not something that was ok, for anyone! or to put our ideas as one persons ideas and findings. <br />jsut a recap... rr/ <br />
  • GINAFELICIAGINAFELICIA Posts: 6,506
    Pearl charging for ....hoax info doesn't sound good ....but I don't think she sells that much<br />Anyway, very bad idea to try to make money of other's work
  • scorpionchikscorpionchik Posts: 2,669
    I have no problem taht Pearl makes money out of hoax. That is her source of living as a journalist, while she spent time and money for equipments to interview people,  traveling, etc.<br />Pearl 100% has also often used this site to gain information, no doubt. But I have a problem with her competence to clearly deliver information, purpose, reason of hoax to audience. That's what Souza says and she is right. She can't even properly connect dots and clearly state why she thinks this is a hoax. There is always a "grey area" in her statements and stories about hoax which leaves people with doubt about hoax, about Michael being serious person who had a very serious reason to hoax his death. I would suggest Pearl to improve her professionalism.
  • BeTheChangeBeTheChange Posts: 1,569
    I don't know Pearl, have never spoken to her and haven't seen a lot of her vids....based on the ones I did watch, I chose not to spend too much time on what she puts out.  It's nothing against her personally, cause I don't know her at all...it's just that, like others have said...most (if not everything) I've seen in the vids I have watched, is info I've already read on this forum.<br /><br />At some point, IMO, the 'hoax' has to fall away...and the message has to shine through.  What I mean by that is that Pearl, or even the 'hoax' community, has to realize that even if there is/was no hoax...the messages still stand...and strong.  For Pearl, or any of us, to focus on 'convincing' people that it is a hoax, by giving them bits and pieces of the puzzle as 'proof'....doesn't advance the message.  What ends up happening, I find, is that when non-hoaxers hear these bits and pieces...they either, at best, don't see the connections or, at worst, respond with negativity and skepticism.  And the reason for that (perhaps intentionally) is because this hoax is so complex and detailed...that to try to 'sum' it up in an interview and/or video...just doesn't do it justice.  A real understanding of the hoax requires a lot of time, effort, and research...something most people have obviously chosen not to expend.<br /><br />But the message...that is something that anyone living in this time and age...witnessing first-hand the destruction of the planet...of nature...of the human spirit...that's something that strikes a chord, or at least should, with or without Michael Jackson and/or a hoax.  That, IMO, is what Pearl and all of us should be taking away from this journey...a whole new level of consciousness.  THAT is the true spirit and meaning of keeping Mike's legacy alive.  When you look at it that way...the big picture way...the bits and pieces of the hoax fall away and become trivial in comparison.<br /><br />If the message...and the magnitude of its' importance... doesn't strike a chord with others when it is shared...then we are all doomed, with or without Michael Jackson.<br /><br />With L.O.V.E. always.
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