Some of the odd things at trial & outside courthouse so far

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  • paula-cpaula-c Posts: 7,221
    This is what i saw on another forum and it is in reference to the flag, in the following photo the flag has a yellow stripe<br />and in the court of the trial of Murray the flag does not have the strip<br />MJ+2011+admiralty+4.JPG<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />MJ+2011+admiralty+3.JPG<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />MJ+2011+trial+admiralty+1.jpg<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />MJ+2011+trial+admiralty+courtroom_inside.jpg<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />MJ+2011+Admiralty+court+room+1.jpg<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Perhaps it is nothing, and someone in the United States can explain?<br />Links of California Courts<br /><br />http://www.courts.ca.gov/home.htm<br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/user/CaliforniaCourts?blend=21&ob=5#p/u/27/YLMiE0B-DFU<br /><br />
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  • Hello everyone,<br /><br />I don't know, if this Video was postet before. Here on this Forum is to much stuff. :lol:<br /><br />
    <br /><br />Much Peace and Love to everyone.
  • paula-cpaula-c Posts: 7,221
    on 1320019882:
    <br />Hello everyone,<br /><br />I don't know, if this Video was postet before. Here on this Forum is to much stuff. :lol:<br /><br />
    <br /><br /><br /><br /><br />always seemed that the judge is very likeable<br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Much Peace and Love to everyone.<br />
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    <br />Everyone, I know MJ has been cited for calling propofol his Jesus Juice (something he put out there evidently), but below is what it probably truly is related to.  Remember, this story is fake.  MJ had to die of something, and he knew that the more outrageous the story (or any story) relating to him was, would be the most believable to some.  They thought him a freak, eccentric, looney toons et al.<br /> <br />He was amazed that people would believe all of those tabloid stories about him without any fact checking/researching.  He couldn't conceive it.  And how the media lied on him during the 2005 trial was appalling and a crying shame (and some more adjectives).  On some levels it bothered him, but at some point, he decided that he would use it for fodder/background to tell several unbelivable stories about and attributed to himself.  He is the writer/author, director, executive producer, victim and some more stuff having to do with this Michael Jackson story.  <br /> <br />The more outrageous the stories/lies about him were/are - the better, because that was the way folks identified with him.  So he said, I show them - and that is what he is doing now.  He planted a lot of these stories about himslf thru some of the so-called shady characters that have been quoted in the press, written about in the press and now with the witnesses and such in this farce of a trial.  LOL!<br /> <br />By the way, Diana was dressed in garb that looked like two galaxies colliding on a recent tour stop which IMO has to do with the below.  Matter of fact, there are a lot of things MJ was about in This Is It - since then and back in the past that was very COSMIC.<br /> <br />Please delete if duplicate posts.<br /> <br />http://curious.astro.cornell.edu/question.php?number=94<br /><br />http://www.cosmomyth.com/milky_way.html<br />
    <br /><br />Wait, wasn't white wine his "Jesus Juice" and propofol his "milk"? Or was propofol also/his (new?) Jesus Juice? confused/<br />
    <br /><br />Yes, that has me confused too. I also thought the "Jesus juice" was from the 2005 trial, and the "Milk" was what they called Propofol.<br /><br />Thank you for bringing this up - i thought I was losing my mind. Well, that may be possible too! :)
  • becbec Posts: 6,387
    The flag fringe is supposed to indicate a military court under which the defendant possess NO civilian rights, including those attributed as unalienable to him under the constitutional Bill of Rights. There is a great deal of information on this available on the internet, usually from resistance groups or civil rights watch groups.<br /><br />Unbiased opinion, it seems an outdated rule that gold fringe=military court, but perhaps I'm being naive. All i know is that US citizens appear as defendants in courtrooms every day across this country presided under gold fringed flags and their constitutional rights are indeed observed, so the evidence is not really indicative of what these resistance groups claim.<br /><br />The gold fringe is largely present on US courtroom flags but not always, nor is it required.
  • um, how do you paste? suspicious//
  • paula-cpaula-c Posts: 7,221
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    <br />The flag fringe is supposed to indicate a military court under which the defendant possess NO civilian rights, including those attributed as unalienable to him under the constitutional Bill of Rights. There is a great deal of information on this available on the internet, usually from resistance groups or civil rights watch groups.<br /><br />Unbiased opinion, it seems an outdated rule that gold fringe=military court, but perhaps I'm being naive. All i know is that US citizens appear as defendants in courtrooms every day across this country presided under gold fringed flags and their constitutional rights are indeed observed, so the evidence is not really indicative of what these resistance groups claim.<br /><br />The gold fringe is largely present on US courtroom flags but not always, nor is it required.<br />
    <br /><br />thanks bec<br />
  • paula-cpaula-c Posts: 7,221
    6289368740_a9d45b392d_z.jpg<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />and whom does this belong to? not our Dr. Murray!<br />I didn't watch the trial today but I decided to take a look at Conrad W Murray and I found this:<br />10030402_131121071636.jpg<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Interesting, this Murray died 56 years ago and Murray's age is about 58/56 years old????<br />Also interesting the symbol on his grave and from where this Conrad W Murray is:<br />Wilson County<br />Texas, USA<br />http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=10030402<br /><br />Murray's record says:<br />Conrad R Murray, MD<br />Cardiologist, Internist<br />http://www.vitals.com/doctors/Dr_Conrad_Murray<br />About this, I think no-one has recalled Murray´s pin Seeingclues´finding here:<br /><br />murray10.jpg<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Which comes from the Fire Department Freemasons:<br />http://www.ioffer.com/i/Fire-Fighter-Fi ... -108495127<br />lafdma10.jpg<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />lafdtw12.jpg<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />lafdtw11.jpg<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />lafdtw12.jpg<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxdeath.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=102&t=16500&start=280
  • PureLovePureLove Posts: 5,891
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    <br />Hello everyone,<br /><br />I don't know, if this Video was postet before. Here on this Forum is to much stuff. :lol:<br /><br />
    <br /><br />Much Peace and Love to everyone.<br />
    <br /><br />I love the judge. He is a funny dude. :lol:
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    <br />6289368740_a9d45b392d_z.jpg<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />and whom does this belong to? not our Dr. Murray!<br />I didn't watch the trial today but I decided to take a look at Conrad W Murray and I found this:<br />10030402_131121071636.jpg<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Interesting, this Murray died 56 years ago and Murray's age is about 58/56 years old????<br />Also interesting the symbol on his grave and from where this Conrad W Murray is:<br />Wilson County<br />Texas, USA<br />http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=10030402<br /><br />Murray's record says:<br />Conrad R Murray, MD<br />Cardiologist, Internist<br />http://www.vitals.com/doctors/Dr_Conrad_Murray<br />About this, I think no-one has recalled Murray´s pin Seeingclues´finding here:<br /><br />murray10.jpg<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Which comes from the Fire Department Freemasons:<br />http://www.ioffer.com/i/Fire-Fighter-Fi ... -108495127<br />lafdma10.jpg<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />lafdtw12.jpg<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />lafdtw11.jpg<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />lafdtw12.jpg<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxdeath.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=102&t=16500&start=280<br />
    <br /><br />I find this really interesting - was it hard to find that tombstone of Conrad W Murray?<br /><br />What else I find interesting is that when you click the link where it shows the overall patient rating that Dr Murray has been reviewed by 333 patients. That's how many pages were released in the FBI files.<br /><br />
  • msgitmmsgitm Posts: 186
    That's Conrad Murray Sr.'s grave.  I was looking for that photo but couldn't find it.  There is also a pic on the net (somewhere?) with Murray visiting his father's grave.  It's a Freemason symbol - like father like son.  His father was also a cardiologist.  I wonder if he's white?  Has anyone figured out that lil mystery yet?<br /><br /><br />and whom does this belong to? not our Dr. Murray!<br />I didn't watch the trial today but I decided to take a look at Conrad W Murray and I found this:<br />10030402_131121071636.jpg<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />
  • Snoopy71Snoopy71 Posts: 952
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    <br />That's Conrad Murray Sr.'s grave.  I was looking for that photo but couldn't find it.  There is also a pic on the net (somewhere?) with Murray visiting his father's grave.  It's a Freemason symbol - like father like son.  His father was also a cardiologist.  I wonder if he's white?  Has anyone figured out that lil mystery yet?<br /><br /><br />and whom does this belong to? not our Dr. Murray!<br />I didn't watch the trial today but I decided to take a look at Conrad W Murray and I found this:<br />10030402_131121071636.jpg<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />
    <br /><br />Is this maybe Murray's grandfather? and not father...cause if i'm doing my math correctly...according to these dates, his father would have been in his 60's when Murray was born (1953) and he would have only been about 2 years old when Murray Sr. died.
  • msgitmmsgitm Posts: 186
    You may be right!?!  I thought I heard one of his patients say his dad died in 2000, or something? Could be that grandpa Murray was also a doctor and a freemason!?!  Or... Murray's dad was just like him and had tons of kids, even later in life.  I'm sure the pic I saw of Conrad Jr visiting the grave had captions that read he was visiting his father.  <br />Another thought... maybe this isn't the same grave I saw in the pic I'm talking about.  It did have the freemason symbols but that doesn't mean it was the same grave.  I'll have to see if I saved that pic somewhere.
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    <br />Hi there,<br /><br />Maybe I have totally lost it, but I would swear that the judge I saw today was not the same judge Michael Pastor that's been sitting in that seat. In fact does anyone have that picture of him with the yellow cab on his bench? That is not the same judge!!!!! <br /><br />I can't seem to find any old pictures from the preliminary hearings, but I know I'm not senile! :x <br /><br />Blessings,<br />OnTheWingsOfLove<br /><br /><br />
    <br /><br />I realise that  I'm responding to an old post but I just wanted to say that the  blackhaird judge from the pretrial was not Judge pastor.<br />April 5, 2010: Murray’s case is reassigned from Superior Court Judge Peter Espinoza to Judge Michael Pastor.<br /><br />Maybe it is allready in this thread somewhere.
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    <br />No, I didn't see the scene w/the alarm. What was the joke the judge made? That sounds like fun. But I remember during the Oprah interview at Neverland an alarm went off when she was asking personal questions. This shud be on Comedy Central.<br />
    <br /><br />damn i chose a great day to have medical problems and be at the hospital, hence missing trial. spewing i missed today. YES this should be on COMEDY CENTRAL  lolol/<br /><br />
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    <br />Not sure anyone has commented on this but during the first day of the trial me and my wife could not start laughing.Out of nowhere,someone broke wind of almighty proportions.I couldnt believe it!There were giggles throughout the courtroom,even conrad managed a smile.It is the most unprofessional courtroom setting i have ever witnessed.My local courtroom is far more pro than this.<br />
    <br /><br />that's our jacko and his hilarious sense of humour  lolol/<br /><br /><br />
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    <br />And this comparison could be sunflowers<br /><br /><br />abogado+de+Murray.jpg<br /><br /><br />
    <br /><br />IMO only, i dont see sunflowers....<br /><br />i see more of a graphic / design loosely based on a flower or leaf... <br /><br /><br />
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    <br />Anyone watching the trial live right now? An alarm just went off (not to mention the judge told yet ANOTHER joke, making everyone laugh.. again. So professional, right? lol) Reminds me of the alarm that went off at UCLA on the 25th. And wasn't there an alarm heard in the background of the audio? So many alarms.<br />
    <br /><br />because its really professional to make jokes in court hey??? especially when its involving the death and potential manslaughter of a world known figure. just as professional as pumpkins, elphants and fluro orange ties i guess...
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  • I noticed this picture while browsing the net. It's interesting to me because there has been much discussion over the missing "N". And recently on the BACK thread there was a picture of the clowns where the "G" was missing. Now we have another picture from outside of the courthouse. For the life of me I can't figure it all out but I know these missing letters must have meaning.<br /><br />
  • GraceGrace Posts: 2,864
    Somebody shakes when the wind blows<br /> Somebody's missing a friend, hold on<br /> Somebody's lacking a hero<br /> And they have not a clue<br /> When it's all gonna end<br /> <br /> Stories buried and untold<br /> Someone is hiding the truth, hold on<br /> When will this mystery unfold<br /> And will the sun ever shine<br /> In the blind man's eyes when he cries?<br /> <br /> You can change the world (I can't do it by myself)<br /> You can touch the sky (Gonna take somebody's help)<br /> You're the chosen one (I'm gonna need some kind of sign)<br /> If we all cry at the same time tonight<br /><br />People laugh when they're feelin sad<br /> Someone is taking a life, hold on<br /> Respect to believe in your dreams<br /> Tell me where were you<br /> when your children cried last night?<br /> <br /> Faces fill with madness<br /> Miracles unheard of, hold on<br /> Faith is found in the winds<br /> All we have to do<br /> Is reach for the truth<br /> <br /> And when that flag blows<br /> There'll be no more wars<br /> And when all calls<br /> I will answer all your prayers<br /> <br /> Change the world<br /> <br /><br />(Cry lyrics)
  • GraceGrace Posts: 2,864
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    <br />I noticed this picture while browsing the net. It's interesting to me because there has been much discussion over the missing "N". And recently on the BACK thread there was a picture of the clowns where the "G" was missing. Now we have another picture from outside of the courthouse. For the life of me I can't figure it all out but I know these missing letters must have meaning.<br />
    <br /><br />NIG is an abbreviation for the country Nigeria (among others).<br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigeria<br /><br />There were news about Nigeria and the Jackson family in spring 2009.<br />http://theurbandaily.com/music/the-urban-daily-staff/marlon-jackson-angers-nigerian-with-a-jackson-5-museum/<br />http://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-313207.0.html<br /><br /><br /><br />NGI is an abbreviation for FBI's Next Generation Identification (among others)<br />http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/fingerprints_biometrics/ngi<br /><br />
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    <br />I noticed this picture while browsing the net. It's interesting to me because there has been much discussion over the missing "N". And recently on the BACK thread there was a picture of the clowns where the "G" was missing. Now we have another picture from outside of the courthouse. For the life of me I can't figure it all out but I know these missing letters must have meaning.<br />
    <br /><br />NIG is an abbreviation for the country Nigeria (among others).<br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigeria<br /><br />There were news about Nigeria and the Jackson family in spring 2009.<br />http://theurbandaily.com/music/the-urban-daily-staff/marlon-jackson-angers-nigerian-with-a-jackson-5-museum/<br />http://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-313207.0.html<br /><br /><br /><br />[size=12pt]NGI is an abbreviation for FBI's Next Generation Identification (among others)<br />http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/fingerprints_biometrics/ngi[/size]
    <br /><br />... which leads us to the fingerprints of the broken syringe. I missed the outcome of the research of the fingerprints. Does anybody know? Or is it still a mystery? suspicious//
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    <br />I noticed this picture while browsing the net. It's interesting to me because there has been much discussion over the missing "N". And recently on the BACK thread there was a picture of the clowns where the "G" was missing. Now we have another picture from outside of the courthouse. For the life of me I can't figure it all out but I know these missing letters must have meaning.<br />
    <br /><br />NIG is an abbreviation for the country Nigeria (among others).<br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigeria<br /><br />There were news about Nigeria and the Jackson family in spring 2009.<br />http://theurbandaily.com/music/the-urban-daily-staff/marlon-jackson-angers-nigerian-with-a-jackson-5-museum/<br />http://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-313207.0.html<br /><br /><br /><br />[size=12pt]NGI is an abbreviation for FBI's Next Generation Identification (among others)<br />http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/fingerprints_biometrics/ngi[/size]
    <br /><br />... which leads us to the fingerprints of the broken syringe. I missed the outcome of the research of the fingerprints. Does anybody know? Or is it still a mystery? suspicious//<br />
    <br /><br />Wow - Grace, have I told you lately how incredible I think you are? When I saw the sign I thought it had a familiarity. The familiarity is with the song Cry.<br /><br />Funny thing about that poster though - it made me think of Sneddon and the 2005 trial, not current events.<br /><br />NGI - Next Generation Identification. Hmmm...I need to read up on this because it's the first time I've heard of this term but it doesn't sound good to me.<br /><br />EverlastingLove_MJ...great connection to the fingerprints. I'll need to check but if I remember correctly they didn't say who the fingerprints belonged to other than to say that they didn't belong to Dr Murray or Michael. One of the last witnesses did say that it's possible not to have fingerprints but I don't remember the reason why this would be so.
  • I noticed twice the jury deliberation clock stopping on the TMZ website. I took screen shots. I see that Luna also mentioned it in the shoutbox. Here are both screenshots - I'm not sure if there were other times because I am working and not paying close attention.<br /><br />Anyways, both sets of numbers equal 33.<br /><br />
  • becbec Posts: 6,387
    You know you're over-hoaxed if...<br /><br />5:43:07:653...4:27:27:272<br />^___________________^<br /><br />(25)7:(43)7:7:(65)11(34)7:(27)9:(27)9:(27)9<br /><br />777 117 999<br /><br />lol.
  • GraceGrace Posts: 2,864
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    <br />Wow - Grace, have I told you lately how incredible I think you are? When I saw the sign I thought it had a familiarity. The familiarity is with the song Cry.
    <br /><br />Smiling and passing the credits on to Michael.<br />Invincible album is making my day every morning and every evening in my car. <br />And believe me: the speakers are on the edge of bursting LOL<br />I can only speak for myself but the lyrics in the album are all incredible.<br />They make a lot of sense in retro when you look with hoaxer's eyes.<br /> <br /> bearhug
  • becbec Posts: 6,387
    Me too Grace. 77 minutes of Invincible on repeat. I agree, the lyrics get more incredible every day.
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