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hey don't say that because in this forum you can't ever be 100 % sure of things especially of Michael...: you don't know him remember?! <!-- s --><!-- s --> <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
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No need to apologise, you weren't being the B-Word. I thought you thought I was argeeing to this sexchange thing. I just didn't understand how the OP got from discussing on other threads whether or not the eyes, face, nose, ears of blondie matched Michael to her actually becoming Michael!! The Katherine and Grace thing was just a joke to how far fetched theories and opinions are becoming .... awe must be my kiwi sense of humour <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) --> .... cause it sounded funny to me in my head b4 I typed it <!-- s --><!-- s --> <!-- s --><!-- s --> <!-- s --><!-- s -->
To whoever does believe this theory, hey you are more than welcome to it. I just don't see or believe it.
Oh Michael also wore so much Christian Audigier clothing: does that mean he's Christian's woman model now? okay...is there any more room for me in the nuts hospital.let me know!
Oh Michael also wore so much Christian Audigier clothing: does that mean he's Christian's woman model now? okay...is there any more room for me in the nuts hospital.let me know!
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Oh Michael also wore so much Christian Audigier clothing: does that mean he's Christian's woman model now? okay...is there any more room for me in the nuts hospital.let me know!
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What I find truly discouraging in all this is how easily this theory is being accepted when it has been supported by only ONE possible clue, that he might have disguised himself as a woman. Yet other theories with many clues connecting them to Michael or theories which are very well researched and have evidence to support them such as the NWO theories are thrown out by many with out doing any research. I find it very disappointing, not to mention what Michael probably thinks of all this. Oh and by the way though Michael respected all of his fans, accepted them as individuals no matter their sexuality, he is 100% heterosexual if that even matters anyway.
maybe we are missing the obvious..maybe thats why he was using propofol..what is used in surgery right???maybe he had the surgery for reassignment?? something went wrong?I don't know..I am just throwing ideas out there.
until the truth is shown to us backed-up with proof and nothing but proof , i believe that anything is possible....but then i am open-minded and will try all theories for size and not fixate on debunking other peoples theory with comments such as "mj wouldn't like this or that or whatever" how do anyone of us know what mj really liked??? that's my whole point, we do not know and thus we speculate UNTIL PROVEN WRONG by tangible and credible proof
some people here were even ready to believe he and dr murray were one and the same person!!! how sick is that?? not so sick IMO, it's a theory like any other...as is DD or hatman, or that he was even disguised as blond lady at memorial with cleavage showing and wearing a little black dress with legs showing and holding hands with the colored guy, this is also pure speculation
Anyone can come up with a theory though, because in reality we all don't have solid proof either way or we wouldn't all be here. If you post things like this and have an open-mind as you say, then your open-mind should be well aware that some will post positive and supportive comments and others will not.
Just because some of us (including me) don't support it, that doesn't mean we are being unsupportive of you as a fellow fan and believer in this. As you mentioned "anything is possible" and your right. Anything is. However I think Michael deserves some respect in our theories and opinions of him. He is after all a human and we need to be respectful in the claims we make against or toward him.
If Michael is a woman or a man i still would love his personality...because mentally he can't change..so he'd still be charming caring.etc.And that won't change a thing....if indeed he's a woman we'd look for the needle in the thatch.
What I find truly discouraging in all this is how easily this theory is being accepted when it has been supported by only ONE possible clue, that he might have disguised himself as a woman. Yet other theories with many clues connecting them to Michael or theories which are very well researched and have evidence to support them such as the NWO theories are thrown out by many with out doing any research. I find it very disappointing, not to mention what Michael probably thinks of all this. Oh and by the way though Michael respected all of his fans, accepted them as individuals no matter their sexuality, he is 100% heterosexual if that even matters anyway.
I agree with you and I think it's sad too. On the other thread saying that she knows Michael is alive, people were angry and pissed off and wanted to know how did she get the info (it's normal tho).
We can feel that we're tired and I don't like the way people answer.
We're having a discussion, people will agree and others don't. Doesn't need to fight or being rude (im not talking about you Serenitys Dream), it's just in most cases people lose their temper and sometimes I ask myself if it's all about L.O.V.E.
I think we're searching for more and more clues and sometimes it sounds nuts (or not). If people believe Michael's a woman now ==> OK, let's discuss about your that, let's argument and talk gently, you know what I mean?
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Anyone can come up with a theory though, because in reality we all don't have solid proof either way or we wouldn't all be here. If you post things like this and have an open-mind as you say, then your open-mind should be well aware that some will post positive and supportive comments and others will not.
Just because some of us (including me) don't support it, that doesn't mean we are being unsupportive of you as a fellow fan and believer in this. As you mentioned "anything is possible" and your right. Anything is. However I think Michael deserves some respect in our theories and opinions of him. He is after all a human and we need to be respectful in the claims we make against or toward him.
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Also, I don't think that him being thin would have anything to do with transgender reassignment.
When you take estrogen, it would decrease your muscle mass and INCREASE your fat deposits.
MJ would more than likely have GAINED weight in obviously feminine areas -hips, thighs, stomach, breasts, etc.
His face would have rounded out and become softer, NOT more masculine with a pronounced jaw line.
I wouldn't be devasted if Michael decided to spend the rest of his life as a woman. For years I've wondered why he wears a full face of woman's makeup all the time. Has anyone ever really questioned that? I mean, think about this: many male entertainers do wear makeup for photoshoots and performances (Criss Angel comes to mind immediately -- he's always in black eyeliner). But Michael really wears a FULL face -- including foundation, mascara, lipstick, etc. (even back to his 'Bad' days) I know it's more acceptable these days and it doesn't seem as if anyone ever really questioned it. But didn't Lisa Marie say that Mike was too embarrassed to let his own wife even see him in the mornings without any makeup on?
I'm just saying it wouldn't surprise me completely. And I would totally understand if it was true. I'd love him for what he has done for the world either way. He should be happy, no matter what.
I agree with you and I think it's sad too. On the other thread saying that she knows Michael is alive, people were angry and pissed off and wanted to know how did she get the info (it's normal tho).
I think people got pissed because there have been so many, "I KNOW HE'S ALIVE AND I HAVE PROOF!!!but I'm not going to show you " threads that it's annoying and stupid at this point. <---- My own personal opinion.
I wouldn't be devasted if Michael decided to spend the rest of his life as a woman. For years I've wondered why he wears a full face of woman's makeup all the time. Has anyone ever really questioned that? I mean, think about this: many male entertainers do wear makeup for photoshoots and performances (Criss Angel comes to mind immediately -- he's always in black eyeliner). But Michael really wears a FULL face -- including foundation, mascara, lipstick, etc. (even back to his 'Bad' days) I know it's more acceptable these days and it doesn't seem as if anyone ever really questioned it. But didn't Lisa Marie say that Mike was too embarrassed to let his own wife even see him in the mornings without any makeup on?
I'm just saying it wouldn't surprise me completely. And I would totally understand if it was true. I'd love him for what he has done for the world either way. He should be happy, no matter what.
I wondered that too, until I saw pics that showed more of his vitiligo.
He didn't wear all that much makeup except on stage until the vitiligo started to get bad and spread all over his face and body.
It also takes the pigment from your lips, so to look like you even HAVE lips, you have to wear something on them.
He was also used to being photographed constantly by paparzzi, so he probably never had a moment where he could have an "off" day and go out of the house without makeup.
Another one who wears makeup constantly and dressed MUCH more feminine than MJ is Prince.
Make up, ruffles, lace, and high heels...
But I don't wonder about his sexuality or think he's gonna go through a sex change operation any time soon. <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
I wouldn't be devasted if Michael decided to spend the rest of his life as a woman. For years I've wondered why he wears a full face of woman's makeup all the time. Has anyone ever really questioned that? I mean, think about this: many male entertainers do wear makeup for photoshoots and performances (Criss Angel comes to mind immediately -- he's always in black eyeliner). But Michael really wears a FULL face -- including foundation, mascara, lipstick, etc. (even back to his 'Bad' days) I know it's more acceptable these days and it doesn't seem as if anyone ever really questioned it. But didn't Lisa Marie say that Mike was too embarrassed to let his own wife even see him in the mornings without any makeup on?
I'm just saying it wouldn't surprise me completely. And I would totally understand if it was true. I'd love him for what he has done for the world either way. He should be happy, no matter what.
I wouldn't be devastated too, it's his choice, until he's happy then i'll <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D --> Me too I always wonder why he wears all this makeup and didn't want LMP to see him in the morning. I think he always wanted to look "perfect", he wanted to show his best face and I guess he didn't like himself without makeup <!-- s:( -->:(<!-- s:( --> maybe vitiligo too, I saw pics where makeup is missing on his forehead and you can see splotch <!-- s:| -->:|<!-- s:| --> I don't like to think that he didn't like his appearance, now it makes me sad <!-- s:( -->:(<!-- s:( -->
LMAO, i love the description of the video on youtube <!-- s --><!-- s --> <!-- s --><!-- s -->
"WARNING! this video will almost definitely cause moisture in the pelvic regions of the human body. i am not responsible for any fainting, heart failure or death by sexy overload... please comment. Thank you" <!-- s --><!-- s --> <!-- s --><!-- s -->
i sincerely apologize if i offend anyone, but this topic hurt me...very much. i do not believe Michael went through a sex change. i think if he read this right now, he might feel so betrayed by his own believers.
i don't know if you guys ever came across this graphic (which i shall not post), but i remember years ago, i saw a graphic of michael as a boy & as an older man. the caption said: only in America can a poor black boy turn into a rich white woman. another picture was of Michael's on Pamela Anderson's body. & another was a picture of a woman sitting, with Michael's face on it with no nose.
do you see how degrading all of that is? do you all see how disgusting that is? it is ignorance, it is so hurtful. why would he undergo a sex change to forever be out of the spotlight? it is like him, satisfying those disgusting theories of him wanting to become a female. i think i might want to tear up after typing this, because although i am not Michael, my heart is very disappointed at this "theory." please, do not call me close-minded for my belief. you all are free to have your own ideas, but this...i just do not believe it is appropriate for Michael's being. him changing into a woman, not only satisfies the stupid tabloid's graphics, but could severely affect his children & his family psychologically.
There is no way Michael would have desires to be female the way he had major hardons on stage:
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After that sugar he gave me in 98 I can tell you without doubt that that man is 1000% sure in who he is as a "MAN"...K, this topic is just retarded <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: --> ......and yes I got to kiss big daddy.......on the lips. <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
This is all man here ladies. <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->
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hey don't say that because in this forum you can't ever be 100 % sure of things especially of Michael...: you don't know him remember?! <!-- s
No need to apologise, you weren't being the B-Word. I thought you thought I was argeeing to this sexchange thing. I just didn't understand how the OP got from discussing on other threads whether or not the eyes, face, nose, ears of blondie matched Michael to her actually becoming Michael!! The Katherine and Grace thing was just a joke to how far fetched theories and opinions are becoming .... awe must be my kiwi sense of humour <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) --> .... cause it sounded funny to me in my head b4 I typed it <!-- s
To whoever does believe this theory, hey you are more than welcome to it. I just don't see or believe it.
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That's too late i'm already breaking loose
Anyone can come up with a theory though, because in reality we all don't have solid proof either way or we wouldn't all be here. If you post things like this and have an open-mind as you say, then your open-mind should be well aware that some will post positive and supportive comments and others will not.
Just because some of us (including me) don't support it, that doesn't mean we are being unsupportive of you as a fellow fan and believer in this. As you mentioned "anything is possible" and your right. Anything is. However I think Michael deserves some respect in our theories and opinions of him. He is after all a human and we need to be respectful in the claims we make against or toward him.
I agree with you and I think it's sad too. On the other thread saying that she knows Michael is alive, people were angry and pissed off and wanted to know how did she get the info (it's normal tho).
We can feel that we're tired and I don't like the way people answer.
We're having a discussion, people will agree and others don't. Doesn't need to fight or being rude (im not talking about you Serenitys Dream), it's just in most cases people lose their temper and sometimes I ask myself if it's all about L.O.V.E.
I think we're searching for more and more clues and sometimes it sounds nuts (or not). If people believe Michael's a woman now ==> OK, let's discuss about your that, let's argument and talk gently, you know what I mean?
Lucky you if you understand what I just said <!-- s
Agreed! <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) -->
Also, I don't think that him being thin would have anything to do with transgender reassignment.
When you take estrogen, it would decrease your muscle mass and INCREASE your fat deposits.
MJ would more than likely have GAINED weight in obviously feminine areas -hips, thighs, stomach, breasts, etc.
His face would have rounded out and become softer, NOT more masculine with a pronounced jaw line.
I'm just saying it wouldn't surprise me completely. And I would totally understand if it was true. I'd love him for what he has done for the world either way. He should be happy, no matter what.
We love you Michael..no matter what!
I think people got pissed because there have been so many, "I KNOW HE'S ALIVE AND I HAVE PROOF!!!but I'm not going to show you " threads that it's annoying and stupid at this point. <---- My own personal opinion.
I wondered that too, until I saw pics that showed more of his vitiligo.
He didn't wear all that much makeup except on stage until the vitiligo started to get bad and spread all over his face and body.
It also takes the pigment from your lips, so to look like you even HAVE lips, you have to wear something on them.
He was also used to being photographed constantly by paparzzi, so he probably never had a moment where he could have an "off" day and go out of the house without makeup.
Another one who wears makeup constantly and dressed MUCH more feminine than MJ is Prince.
Make up, ruffles, lace, and high heels...
But I don't wonder about his sexuality or think he's gonna go through a sex change operation any time soon. <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
I wouldn't be devastated too, it's his choice, until he's happy then i'll <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D --> Me too I always wonder why he wears all this makeup and didn't want LMP to see him in the morning. I think he always wanted to look "perfect", he wanted to show his best face and I guess he didn't like himself without makeup <!-- s:( -->:(<!-- s:( --> maybe vitiligo too, I saw pics where makeup is missing on his forehead and you can see splotch <!-- s:| -->:|<!-- s:| --> I don't like to think that he didn't like his appearance, now it makes me sad <!-- s:( -->:(<!-- s:( -->
I second that !! Thanks Doreentbird !!!! <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->
There is no way Michael would have desires to be female the way he had major hardons on stage:
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Lmao i love this song....
"WARNING! this video will almost definitely cause moisture in the pelvic regions of the human body. i am not responsible for any fainting, heart failure or death by sexy overload... please comment. Thank you" <!-- s
We know he didn't wear underwear and I doubt he wore jock straps either. He wanted to be free and clearly visible. <!-- s
i don't know if you guys ever came across this graphic (which i shall not post), but i remember years ago, i saw a graphic of michael as a boy & as an older man. the caption said: only in America can a poor black boy turn into a rich white woman. another picture was of Michael's on Pamela Anderson's body. & another was a picture of a woman sitting, with Michael's face on it with no nose.
do you see how degrading all of that is? do you all see how disgusting that is? it is ignorance, it is so hurtful. why would he undergo a sex change to forever be out of the spotlight? it is like him, satisfying those disgusting theories of him wanting to become a female. i think i might want to tear up after typing this, because although i am not Michael, my heart is very disappointed at this "theory." please, do not call me close-minded for my belief. you all are free to have your own ideas, but this...i just do not believe it is appropriate for Michael's being. him changing into a woman, not only satisfies the stupid tabloid's graphics, but could severely affect his children & his family psychologically.
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