Gina, I too read books and watched movies about the Holocaust when I was younger, and felt such horror and sadness. Just the sheer numbers of loss of life is staggering. We are so removed from that with our mostly comfortable safe lives.<br /><br />Well I guess no good thing ever comes from discussing anything contrary to the conventional story, especially this subject matter. <br /> I've removed the offending sites that Scream was angry about. <br /><br />I don't want this forum to have trouble because of links I've posted. Then my actions are affecting the common good. I'm here because of my love for Michael, and the members here. If I knew that he wanted us to fight against the conspiracy beyond the media that tried to/did destroy his reputation, which is definitely related to this topic, I would keep the sites up. I know TS posted about 9/11, and about JFK, and about Robert Kennedy, which are also related. If we knew that Anonymous was MJ behind the scene, that would also mean he was fighting against this exact same group, 'them', that is referred to in this topic. Well, it's almost pointless talking about it because many people just get very upset. My bad, sorry guys! Also I know when TS talked about the dangers that were around Michael, and the need for great care to be taken in what they said, I think he was also referencing the same 'powers that be' that have conditioned the general public to reject all 'conspiracy theories'.<br /><br />Yes, MissG, I think MJ had some very close friends that were Jewish, that he trusted completely!
WWII and surrounding conditions from way back until today has been a very complicated and controversial matter. This is a subject like political system, sex and religion - always to be discussed with a mindset of maximum humbleness and caution in the sense of not unwillingly hurting people through words and/or action.<br /><br /><br />It is courageous to start a topic like this, knowing how easily a drift might set in.<br /><br />The world is not black or white but a lot of in between. Unfortunately, a lot has been hidden before our eyes making it pretty easy to believe in black or white when people don't question or start digging. <br /><br />We have discussed other taboos and controversial matters in depth before and are meanwhile trained to do so without hacking each others eyes (more or less, but in the end achieving a climate that allows for controversy keeping manners equally important). <br /><br />Folks flocking into the board now without investing the time, capacity or willingness to read will not adapt to the style of this board easily because they might have to catch up not only information but also growth that took us years.<br />This is a general aspect that will become the more important the more people will get interested in asking questions about Michael. I think it would be wise to be prepared for more controversy and people not understanding us in the end.<br /><br />We have dissected Michael having a belly button or not on the death bed photo. We have discussed his skin color, his nails, his smile, the possibility of doppelgangers and literally everything from a living dead's perspective. We cannot ignore that more taboo subjects deserve a dissection as well for finding out the truth.<br /><br />This is the logic of the hoax and of thinking outside of the box.<br />If this should not be allowed here for other topics as well - then where?<br />Were we encouraged to dissect, get engaged into questioning, demonstrate perseverance up to TS' leaves discussion? Yes we were. By many sides actually.<br /><br />Unmasking means also unmasking oneself. <br />Some have achieved great surpris(z)es in doing so.<br />Slandering is not even what cockroaches do. Bah.<br /><br />I am proud of this forum and grateful for everybody having contributed positively to where we are now.
<br />I have relatives in Iran.<br />I must say, they are against the zionists of the ruling class. They know very well what is really going on.<br />But it is all rigged.<br />The people have it bad due to their regime so the people want change.<br />America (dont know if they still are) is playing the "we must help the iranian people against their regime" card, as they have with other countries. And some of the iranian people want that because they don't have it easy there, and especilly now when USA made sure to shut Iran off with the sanctions.<br /><br />When I write america and israel I mean the rulers and not the people.<br /><br />America love to play the Hero card.<br />Sometimes it just feels like a game, that Iran and America and Israel is all in it together. Making sure that the people will panic, to create fear and chaoes. They don't have to go to war, if they want the regime out it is just for them to enter the country and snatch them.<br /><br />I personally feel that the last real king they had in Iran that really was honest, loving and real was the Shah.<br />Just as for america JFK was the last real president.<br />
100% agree.As an American i love my country,but i am ashamed of our leaders.They have sold out the citizens,not only in our country,but all over the world for money,power and greed.The shedding of innocent blood,due to invisible influence.Its all connected.Follow the money trail,the rabbit hole goes deep,and back to early civilization.The media plays a huge role in this deception.Its unfortunate we will never see another JFK.Its all come down to chosen puppets,that will do what they are told,and continue to give us the false illusion that we are free and encourage us to vote,knowing damn well ,that presidents are chosen,not elected.Plesseeeeeeee.We all know who the real bogey man is,its all there in the Holy Bible.Once you can pinpoint the Whore of Babylon,the dots will begin to connect,and you can clearly see why they do what they do.
Just wow... I can't believe this thread! :over-react-smiley: This is just what THEY want!<br /><br />It is all about manipulating the public and turning us against each other instead of against THEM... <br /><br />I would recommend reading "Rule by Secrecy" by Jim Marrs to get a better understanding of the bigger picture here..<br /><br />With LOVE<br /><br /> :bearhug:<br /><br />We, the people, have to UNITE. COEXIST.
<br />WWII and surrounding conditions from way back until today has been a very complicated and controversial matter. This is a subject like political system, sex and religion - always to be discussed with a mindset of maximum humbleness and caution in the sense of not unwillingly hurting people through words and/or action.<br /><br /><br />It is courageous to start a topic like this, knowing how easily a drift might set in.<br /><br />The world is not black or white but a lot of in between. Unfortunately, a lot has been hidden before our eyes making it pretty easy to believe in black or white when people don't question or start digging. <br /><br />We have discussed other taboos and controversial matters in depth before and are meanwhile trained to do so without hacking each others eyes (more or less, but in the end achieving a climate that allows for controversy keeping manners equally important). <br /><br />Folks flocking into the board now without investing the time, capacity or willingness to read will not adapt to the style of this board easily because they might have to catch up not only information but also growth that took us years.<br />This is a general aspect that will become the more important the more people will get interested in asking questions about Michael. I think it would be wise to be prepared for more controversy and people not understanding us in the end.<br /><br />We have dissected Michael having a belly button or not on the death bed photo. We have discussed his skin color, his nails, his smile, the possibility of doppelgangers and literally everything from a living dead's perspective. We cannot ignore that more taboo subjects deserve a dissection as well for finding out the truth.<br /><br />This is the logic of the hoax and of thinking outside of the box.<br />If this should not be allowed here for other topics as well - then where?<br />Were we encouraged to dissect, get engaged into questioning, demonstrate perseverance up to TS' leaves discussion? Yes we were. By many sides actually.<br /><br />Unmasking means also unmasking oneself. <br />Some have achieved great surpris(z)es in doing so.<br />Slandering is not even what cockroaches do. Bah.<br /><br />I am proud of this forum and grateful for everybody having contributed positively to where we are now.<br />
:th_bravo: :th_bravo:<br /><br /><br />Just a few links that I find interesting to be taken into account when talking about this subject. I'm not saying I believe everything there... I'm just saying: What If? <br />It's always recommended to know all aspects and look at the problem from all possible perspectives! After all, this is what OPEN MINDED means or THINKING OUT OF THE BOX!! ---- > namely : even if we think we know the truth about something, we need to be able to accept that there is at least a slight chance that we might NOT know everything or that what we know is NOT exactly the whole truth!<br />And what does it take us to explore and research everything that one can find before making up one's own mind?? Nothing! Oh maybe time and willingness! that's what it takes, only time and willingness ! <br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />
i too have my viewpoints however will keep them to myself so as not to be wrongfully accused of denying the holocaust! but i will say this, zionists do hold the reins to global control. that is all....<br /><br />more importantly, i wanted to post and spare a thought and a few moments for my (NON JEW) purple triangle Jehovahs Witness associates who were executed or persecuted in Nazi Germany and Auschwitz Poland...<br /><br />WIKI: The purple triangle was a concentration camp badge used by the Nazis to identify Bibelforscher (Bible Students), the German name for Jehovah’s Witnesses in Nazi Germany. A small number of Adventists, Baptists and pacifists (less than one percent) were also identified by the badge.[1] Nazism opposed unorthodox-Christian religious minorities (along with Jews), but made the Bible Students the object of particularly intense persecution, including such extensive incarceration that a distinct badge was assigned to them.<br /><br /><br /><br />Unlike Jews and Romani people (Gypsies) who were persecuted on the basis of their ethnicity, Jehovah's Witnesses had the opportunity to escape persecution and personal harm by renouncing their religious beliefs. The Nazi government gave detained Jehovah's Witnesses the option of release by signing a document indicating renouncement of their faith, submission to state authority, and support of the German military<br /><br />Instead of recouncing their faith, they chose to adhere to Christian Neutrality when it comes to war and hence further persecution instead of freedom based on fear.<br /><br />I am humbled everytime I think of my brothers and sisters...<br /><br />Their courageous spirit and loyalty to God to death spurs me on and encourages me to want to be a better Christian and a JW with courage.<br /><br /><br />May God bless you in ressurection...<br /><br /><br />Thank you for your fine example, I am humbled by your endurance, strength, love and respect for of fellow God.<br /><br /><br /><br />For more information....<br /><br />Purple Triangle: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purple_triangle<br /><br />JWs in Nazi Germany: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Jehovah%27s_Witnesses_in_Nazi_Germany<br /><br /><br />
<br />Just wow... I can't believe this thread! :over-react-smiley: This is just what THEY want!<br /><br />It is all about manipulating the public and turning us against each other instead of against THEM... <br /><br />I would recommend reading "Rule by Secrecy" by Jim Marrs to get a better understanding of the bigger picture here..<br /><br />With LOVE<br /><br /> :bearhug:<br /><br />We, the people, have to UNITE. COEXIST.<br />
<br /><br />I Love Jim Marrs. I have that book, & also 9-11 conspiracy. I listen to Alex Jones, Infowars.com, & one of the best movies that totally describes the Government Sponsered Terrorism, is Terror Storm. It goes way way to Hitler, & keep in mind ALMOST ALL is totally ADMITTED, DE-CLASSIFIED from our own government. Here is the link. It's a long movie, but it wraps it up in a nutshell on what happens & who's in control. Alex spells it out, ( which I need sometimes) on how it happened, who's behind, shows the documents, shows the commanders in charge, totally worth it. It the best movie to describe Government Sponsered Terrorism.<br /><br />TerrorStorm Full length version - YouTube
<br />Grace quoted from Wiki on Anti-semetic and it also said.<br />
Current situation<br />A March 2008 report by the U.S. State Department found that there was an increase in antisemitism across the world, and that both old and new expressions of antisemitism persist.[129]
<br />So pretty much every country in the world has issues with 'Jews' for many centuries? Now why is that? They can't all be blind idiots and so irrationally hateful.<br /><br />Thank you Simpa, for addressing Akhtoni, because I wasn't sure what to say.<br /><br />Akhtoni, are you Muslim from an arab country, and young as well? Because that will make it more understandable why you say what you say, how you said it. If any group has a feel for what's happening in the middle east, it's the people who live there and have been directly affected by 'Jews' and Israel for centuries. People in the West get a sanitized version, because 'they' run the media, hollywood, governments, education systems, and influence Western Christianity. The official story people say we must promote the Holocaust story because of the slogan, "Never again". Well "Never again" apparently doesn't include Arab countries like Iraq and Afghanistan, and peoples like the Palestinians who since 1947 have had many slaughters and on-going suffering. But Arabs have all been vilified in the west and characterized as 'Terrorists' by the same media mentioned above. <br /><br />MJ wants to promote healing for the world and love for all people groups including Jews, so first of all there needs to be an understanding of the truth of history, before solutions can be put into place. I believe he can and will do this! And it will happen according to God's time schedule.<br /> :michael_jackson-1135: :michael-jackson: :moonwalk_:<br />
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@Scream <br /><br />why are you putting my words into every ones mouth here?? <br /><br />you changed my name to AKH''I like Hitler''TONI well like you want<br /><br />WHAT HAPPENED TO GERMANY IS HAPPENING TO AMERICA !!! ZIONIST CONTROL CRASH - YouTube<br /><br />isn't good what he did ^^ ( 3:55 to end). sorry but our leaders never think of us.<br /><br /><br />Adolf Hitler: The Man they Call the Devil - YouTube<br /><br />4:50 and 5:54 ^^ like what michael said in this is it. <br /><br />Adolf Hitler speech against freemasonry illuminati NWO,zionist plutocratic warmongers England. - YouTube<br /><br /><br />JFK praises Adolf Hitler - YouTube hope jfk is not antisimitic too?<br /><br />why did mike said hitler was genuis? sure not his evil side.or just he could have made him change . most of hitler speeches are wht's happening now ( change jews by zionists or illuminati if you want ). I am not defending him or saying he is all good.just take a look on youtube and decide. <br /><br /><br />@sim thanks for the advice i appreciate it :bearhug: i will watch the vidéos that you posted later thanks. yes and every thing is "what if" in this world.<br /><br />@ mjonmind yes, I am from a muslim country.<br /><br /><br />@scream stop attacking the members and admins here because of what i said i think i said "I" and don't take it like an apportunity.<br /><br />
Hitler had the capacity to captivate your scenario with its controversial speeches during the first phase of the war, was a powerful genius strategist, was an astute man, but that does not make him a " hero "
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