<br />Maybe Lloyds don't have any real evidence that Michael is actually dead.<br />
<br /><br />That´s what I was thinking. I remember reading that they have never received a valid death certificate.<br />
<br /><br />And also, what evidence do they have of "MJ's extensive drug and health issues"?<br />
<br /><br />Exactly that's the point "no valid death certificate" plus are there any medical checkups? if Murray was hired to control MJ's health for the concerts where are those medical checkups? I keep on without believing that a so "professional" doctor as Murray could give Michael that fatal dose of propofol without being monitored furthermore propofol is an anesthetic and not a restful sleep medicine.
<br />Perhaps the goal is to create as much confusion as possible before the BAM and maybe to create some doubt/confusion for the hoax believers as well. Darkest before dawn, and all that.<br />
It all looks very scripted to me, when I heard about the leaked emails I thought "it's a Hoaxileak" lol I wonder what else is there in those 200 and so pages. :suspect:
<br />Perhaps the goal is to create as much confusion as possible before the BAM and maybe to create some doubt/confusion for the hoax believers as well. Darkest before dawn, and all that.<br />
<br /><br />agree with you.<br /><br /><br /><br /><br />@ Scorpion Chick - Glad to see you back and posting. I was asking about you on the forum, before I did my own little disappearing act!
<br />[size=18pt]AEG have to drop to insurance claim, otherwise Michael could not come back. It's legal for someone to fake their death, as long as they don't get any money from an insurance claim[/size]. <br /><br />[size=14pt]AGREE! That's why I am waiting for other shoes to drop. Things have to happen so Lloyds doesn't continue with lawsuit against Michael Jackson LLC; and Katherine has to drop lawsuit against AEG.[/size] It's all falling into place....
Quote from: 2good2btrue on September 14, 2012, 07:05:52 AM<br /><br />AEG have to drop to insurance claim, otherwise Michael could not come back. It's legal for someone to fake their death, as long as they don't get any money from an insurance claim. <br /><br />AGREE! That's why I am waiting for other shoes to drop. Things have to happen so Lloyds doesn't continue with lawsuit against Michael Jackson LLC; and Katherine has to drop lawsuit against AEG. It's all falling into place.... <br /><br /><br />@2good Katherine did not drop lawsuit against AEG. It is pending on future hearing<br /><br />10/24/2012 at 08:45 am in department 28 at 111 North Hill Street, Los Angeles, CA 90012<br />Motion for Sanctions (MOTION TO SEAL PORTIONS OF THERECORD)<br /><br />11/28/2012 at 08:45 am in department 28 at 111 North Hill Street, Los Angeles, CA 90012<br />Motion to Compel ((2))<br /><br />03/21/2013 at 08:45 am in department 28 at 111 North Hill Street, Los Angeles, CA 90012<br />Final Status Conference (jt 4-2-13)<br /><br />04/02/2013 at 09:30 am in department 28 at 111 North Hill Street, Los Angeles, CA 90012<br />Jury Trial (30-45 days)<br /><br />
<br /><br />@ Scorpion Chick - Glad to see you back and posting. I was asking about you on the forum, before I did my own little disappearing act!<br />
<br />Quote from: 2good2btrue on September 14, 2012, 07:05:52 AM<br /><br />AEG have to drop to insurance claim, otherwise Michael could not come back. It's legal for someone to fake their death, as long as they don't get any money from an insurance claim. <br /><br />AGREE! That's why I am waiting for other shoes to drop. Things have to happen so Lloyds doesn't continue with lawsuit against Michael Jackson LLC; and Katherine has to drop lawsuit against AEG. It's all falling into place.... <br /><br /><br />@2good Katherine did not drop lawsuit against AEG. It is pending on future hearing<br /><br />10/24/2012 at 08:45 am in department 28 at 111 North Hill Street, Los Angeles, CA 90012<br />Motion for Sanctions (MOTION TO SEAL PORTIONS OF THERECORD)<br /><br />11/28/2012 at 08:45 am in department 28 at 111 North Hill Street, Los Angeles, CA 90012<br />Motion to Compel ((2))<br /><br />03/21/2013 at 08:45 am in department 28 at 111 North Hill Street, Los Angeles, CA 90012<br />Final Status Conference (jt 4-2-13)<br /><br />04/02/2013 at 09:30 am in department 28 at 111 North Hill Street, Los Angeles, CA 90012<br />Jury Trial (30-45 days)<br />
<br />Thanks Scorpionchik. If the hearings are partly this year and the trial only next year, MJ’s bam will cancel it all, unless Bam is not what we expect, and the hoax continues.
<br />Thanks Scorpionchik. If the hearings are partly this year and the trial only next year, MJ’s bam will cancel it all, unless Bam is not what we expect, and the hoax continues.<br />
<br /><br />Or perhaps 'when' we expect it.<br /><br /><br />You're right though, bam may cancel hearings and total. Hope so.
If Michael BAMs, Katherine will withdraw lawsuit with prejudice.... Then what will be next you think? AEG will file lawsuit against Katherine and kids ( they are among plaintiffs) for false allegation and personal injury..........unless Katherine and kids can prove that they did not know that that was NOT Michael who was burried, they confused MJ with dummy/double. Then they have to explain WHY they accepted false autopsy report and fake death certificate and staged funeral ? That's what concerns me most I was saying and saying. <br /> And this is not the full picture, this is least that I know will happen whether AEG is bad guy or good guy towards Michael because that will not be the point. The reason MJ hoaxed his death and Katherine filing lawsuit for wrongful death are 2 separate events. The point will be that Katherine deceived court and filed false lawsuit knowing that MJ is not dead then that looks like she wanted to get money from AEG she was not leaglly entitled to. <br />Not to mention mass lawsuits against Jacksons that will follow; people alway find reason. <br /> I know this does not look what we want but...what do you think about this post BAM chain of event?
<br />If Michael BAMs, Katherine will withdraw lawsuit with prejudice.... Then what will be next you think? AEG will file lawsuit against Katherine and kids ( they are among plaintiffs) for false allegation and personal injury..........unless Katherine and kids can prove that they did not know that that was NOT Michael who was burried, they confused MJ with dummy/double. Then they have to explain WHY they accepted false autopsy report and fake death certificate and staged funeral ? That's what concerns me most I was saying and saying. <br /> And this is not the full picture, this is least that I know will happen whether AEG is bad guy or good guy towards Michael because that will not be the point. The reason MJ hoaxed his death and Katherine filing lawsuit for wrongful death are 2 separate events. The point will be that Katherine deceived court and filed false lawsuit knowing that MJ is not dead then that looks like she wanted to get money from AEG she was not leaglly entitled to. <br />Not to mention mass lawsuits against Jacksons that will follow; people alway find reason. <br /> I know this does not look what we want but...what do you think about this post BAM chain of event?<br />
<br /><br />Maybe AEG will be sold by then...<br /><br />I honestly believe that Michael has taken care of any sort of legal eventualities with this hoax.
this is lords of london , not common insurer. why oh why would they insure without thoroughly checking it out themselves?and do they know for a fact that ever who was examined was in deed michael jackson? next question i have is 17 mil. small potatoes for such a company. and was this only for the first 10 shows?
<br />If Michael BAMs, Katherine will withdraw lawsuit with prejudice.... Then what will be next you think? AEG will file lawsuit against Katherine and kids ( they are among plaintiffs) for false allegation and personal injury..........unless Katherine and kids can prove that they did not know that that was NOT Michael who was burried, they confused MJ with dummy/double. Then they have to explain WHY they accepted false autopsy report and fake death certificate and staged funeral ? That's what concerns me most I was saying and saying. <br /> And this is not the full picture, this is least that I know will happen whether AEG is bad guy or good guy towards Michael because that will not be the point. The reason MJ hoaxed his death and Katherine filing lawsuit for wrongful death are 2 separate events. The point will be that Katherine deceived court and filed false lawsuit knowing that MJ is not dead then that looks like she wanted to get money from AEG she was not leaglly entitled to. <br />Not to mention mass lawsuits against Jacksons that will follow; people alway find reason. <br /> I know this does not look what we want but...what do you think about this post BAM chain of event?<br />
<br /><br />If Michael BAMS it means he is alive and this means everything else will remain worthless because everything has been staged.
<br />If Michael BAMs, Katherine will withdraw lawsuit with prejudice.... Then what will be next you think? AEG will file lawsuit against Katherine and kids ( they are among plaintiffs) for false allegation and personal injury..........unless Katherine and kids can prove that they did not know that that was NOT Michael who was burried, they confused MJ with dummy/double. Then they have to explain WHY they accepted false autopsy report and fake death certificate and staged funeral ? That's what concerns me most I was saying and saying. <br /> And this is not the full picture, this is least that I know will happen whether AEG is bad guy or good guy towards Michael because that will not be the point. The reason MJ hoaxed his death and Katherine filing lawsuit for wrongful death are 2 separate events. The point will be that Katherine deceived court and filed false lawsuit knowing that MJ is not dead then that looks like she wanted to get money from AEG she was not leaglly entitled to. <br />Not to mention mass lawsuits against Jacksons that will follow; people alway find reason. <br /> I know this does not look what we want but...what do you think about this post BAM chain of event?<br />
<br /><br />If Michael BAMS it means he is alive and this means everything else will remain worthless because everything has been staged.<br />
<br /><br />Worthless staged death and filed lawsuit? In here?? No hon, maybe on your unknown Planet Earth :icon_e_biggrin: But in LA, it will be :judge-smiley: <br />Trust me. Alive Michael is more problem although I too want him here right now.
<br />If Michael BAMs, Katherine will withdraw lawsuit with prejudice.... Then what will be next you think? AEG will file lawsuit against Katherine and kids ( they are among plaintiffs) for false allegation and personal injury..........unless Katherine and kids can prove that they did not know that that was NOT Michael who was burried, they confused MJ with dummy/double. Then they have to explain WHY they accepted false autopsy report and fake death certificate and staged funeral ? That's what concerns me most I was saying and saying. <br /> And this is not the full picture, this is least that I know will happen whether AEG is bad guy or good guy towards Michael because that will not be the point. The reason MJ hoaxed his death and Katherine filing lawsuit for wrongful death are 2 separate events. The point will be that Katherine deceived court and filed false lawsuit knowing that MJ is not dead then that looks like she wanted to get money from AEG she was not leaglly entitled to. <br />Not to mention mass lawsuits against Jacksons that will follow; people alway find reason. <br /> I know this does not look what we want but...what do you think about this post BAM chain of event?<br />
<br /><br />[size=10pt]I've wondered about this type of fallout as well...many times actually. Lawsuits stemming from the lawsuits brought to date would seem to be a stumbling block. Something that I've thought recently is that there appears to be soooooo much re-posturing/re-positioning of the AEG status. Bailing as a plaintiff in a lawsuit and putting your company on the chopping block aren't the typical actions of a well oiled and solid company. It makes me wonder just how many skeletons may come banging out of AEG's closet when all the proper people get to the business of auditing the books and internals for the sale. I wonder if maybe AEG will end up in such bad light that they'd be hard pressed to revenge litigate. Just a thought...or maybe it was a plan...LOL...I just know I'm still running in this elaborate maze with all the rest of you guys. [/size] :icon_e_wink:
<br />You're assuming AEG isn't involved in the project and I see no reason to do so.<br />
<br /><br />Hey bec...but no I'm not assuming anything...merely stating an outlook from one perspective based on the comment made earlier about the lawsuits being a problem. People used to tell me I was a great at debating because I could open my mind to see either side regardless of my personal opinion. It's been a blessing and a curse at times as we've traveled down our path here....lol. In this adventure I've taken news and subjects introduced and looked at it from both perspectives...like how does this play if they are good guys vs. bad guys...and I'm sure many of you do that at well. But...no matter how much we try and nail down every fact/nuance/personal role & intentions/business role & intentions and assign them all to the Good Guys or the Bad Guys...my gut tells me that even those of us who've been sitting front row are still in for some surprises. Don't get me wrong...most people and entities are obviously "trending" on one side of my scoreboard or the other but I'm not awarding White Fedoras or Devils Horns specifically to anyone just yet. Still keeping my sponge mode operating and then periodically wringing out the excess...lol.
<br />You're assuming AEG isn't involved in the project and I see no reason to do so.<br />
<br /><br />Hey bec...but no I'm not assuming anything...merely stating an outlook from one perspective based on the comment made earlier about the lawsuits being a problem. People used to tell me I was a great at debating because I could open my mind to see either side regardless of my personal opinion. It's been a blessing and a curse at times as we've traveled down our path here....lol. In this adventure I've taken news and subjects introduced and looked at it from both perspectives...like how does this play if they are good guys vs. bad guys...and I'm sure many of you do that at well. But...no matter how much we try and nail down every fact/nuance/personal role & intentions/business role & intentions and assign them all to the Good Guys or the Bad Guys...my gut tells me that even those of us who've been sitting front row are still in for some surprises. Don't get me wrong...most people and entities are obviously "trending" on one side of my scoreboard or the other but I'm not awarding White Fedoras or Devils Horns specifically to anyone just yet. Still keeping my sponge mode operating and then periodically wringing out the excess...lol. <br />
good post , i like your approach , very even handed. imo :icon_e_wink:
Well but, yes you are. To ponder the possibility of lawsuits stemming from the AEG connection upon MJ's return, you have to first assume that AEG is not involved, because if they are involved in the project there is no risk of litigation. <br /><br />So like Andrea said, I trust MJ has everything under control in the legality department for this hoax.
IF AEG, Conrad, FBI , court/judges, LAPD, LA Coroners office, UCLA doctors, not naming MJ's relatives, coworkers, friends, are ALL in hoax, then against who and what for(motive, ground) Michael hoaxed his death? IS there hoax at all?<br /> Take over WHOM/ WHAT if everybody is in hoax? :icon_rolleyes:
<br />If Michael BAMs, Katherine will withdraw lawsuit with prejudice.... Then what will be next you think? AEG will file lawsuit against Katherine and kids ( they are among plaintiffs) for false allegation and personal injury..........unless Katherine and kids can prove that they did not know that that was NOT Michael who was burried, they confused MJ with dummy/double. Then they have to explain WHY they accepted false autopsy report and fake death certificate and staged funeral ? That's what concerns me most I was saying and saying. <br /> And this is not the full picture, this is least that I know will happen whether AEG is bad guy or good guy towards Michael because that will not be the point. The reason MJ hoaxed his death and Katherine filing lawsuit for wrongful death are 2 separate events. The point will be that Katherine deceived court and filed false lawsuit knowing that MJ is not dead then that looks like she wanted to get money from AEG she was not leaglly entitled to. <br />Not to mention mass lawsuits against Jacksons that will follow; people alway find reason. <br /> I know this does not look what we want but...what do you think about this post BAM chain of event?<br />
<br /><br />Maybe AEG will be sold by then...<br /><br />I honestly believe that Michael has taken care of any sort of legal eventualities with this hoax.<br />
<br /><br />Agree Andrea .Michael has certainly planned all... :icon_e_wink:
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