Part 2 : Arnold Klein..What really happend to Michael ( there is much much more)

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  • paula-cpaula-c Posts: 7,221
    All this is so complicated and dangerous,... I'll continue reading
  • The pressure is on the executors of the estate and AEG to expose their fraudulent ways and tactics.  It is about time too.  They are all thieves and liars, and should not be sitting at the helm of an empire that Michael Jackson built with his blood, sweat and tears.<br />
  • I don't remember if this was discussed or not.  Do we know who the witnesses for Michael's "Fake" will are?  Because as per Leonard Rowe's book one of the primary requirements for a will to be considered legitimate is for at least two witnesses to attest to the competency of the person making the will.  They are able to note whether the person is under duress or the victim of fraud.  The witnesses can also assure that the will is being executed of his own free will.  If an issue comes up on any of these matters, then the witnesses are supposed to be available for the court to determine if the will was freely executed and the person who made the will was not a victim of fraud.  In Michael's case, the will that was shown to the public omits both the names and the addresses of the witnesses.  And there is no indication that the witnesses have ever been called into court under oath to testify to the truth of the so-called execution of Michael's will.<br /><br />This is from Leonard Rowe's book called What Really Happened.
  • Sorry for all these posts, but these new outbursts from Arnie are just bothering me to no end.<br /><br />The last time I saw Michael he did seem quite right. He seemed a bit high.  Once I saw the autopsy I realized what was happening.  A week or 2 later Jason Pfeiffer said Michael had called the office asking for an anesthesiologist a week or two  before he died (while I was in Europe.) It all made sense. <br /><br />It's been almost 4 years since 6/25/2009 and he just remembers to mention this now?????<br /><br />Leonard Rowe says the same thing about Michael in his book "What Really Happened".  He also says that Michael used to be extremely detailed when it came to anything to do with the details of his tour, his costumes, who he hired to videotape his shows.........but he says for This is it, he didn't really like Zaldy's costumes and he wasn't happy about all of the details being taken care of by someone other than himself, but he was very indifferent about the whole situation.......<br />Leonard says it's as if he knew that the This is it concerts were never going to happen..............
  • MJonmindMJonmind Posts: 7,290
    A friend told me about this; on Feb 14 he posted a pic of a white rabbit!  Another hoaxy hint!<br />http://www.quora.com/Arnold-W-Klein<br /><br />akwhiterab.jpg<br /><br />This is what we were discussing on this thread on Feb 13/14,<br />http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,23648.0.html<br />We know he was reading everything we were saying about him because he responded, especially with The Illusionist, on Jan 22.      http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,23290.msg436652.html#msg436652<br /><br />
  • paula-cpaula-c Posts: 7,221
    Forget  the trash gay, and pay attention to what supposedly Joe said of Branca and Harvey Levin that matches what say Arnold Klein<br /><br /><br />
    HSK Exclusive - Word from the streets of Los Angeles…<br /> <br />Raffles Van Exel and Joe Jackson are secret lovers. That’s according to several industry insiders, who say Raffs is the culprit behind the rumor – and guess what? I don’t believe it. That’s why I picked up the phone to call the King of Pop’s father, Joe Jackson himself.<br /> <br />Here’s what the father of, and mastermind behind, ‘Jackson 5′ had to say about the shocking allegations:<br /> <br /><br />“Raffles needs to stop calling my name, I don’t know him like that. Why isn’t Raffles in jail?”<br /> <br />After I calmly mentioned Raffles is spreading gay rumors, to The King of Pop’s father, here’s the response I got:<br /> <br /><br />“What?!? No…No…that’s not true, it’s all lies. How do we get Raffles?<br /> <br />Jacky, we gotta come up with a plan. Raffles was seen driving my car, he ain’t staying over at Dr Tohme’s house no more uh?”<br /> <br />I smiled to myself before saying, “I chased him out the country, he’s back in his birth country of Suriname.”<br /> <br />Joe quickly spoke out:<br /> <br /><br />“What?!? Suriname…How come the press ain’t writing that? Why isn’t Raffles in jail?<br /> <br />Jacky, you know Raffles, John Branca and Harvey Levin are all working together. John Branca forged Michael’s signature on his Will, to steal my son’s estate. I don’t like Harvey Levin, That’s Raffles main man. Jacky, I’m happy you called, I’m locking your number in.”<br /> <br />Has Raffles van Exel been a well placed source to Harvey Levin and TMZ for years? Of course he has! Don’t believe me.. Ask Joe Jackson.<br />
    <br /><br /><br /><br /><br />http://diaryofahollywoodstreetking.com/joe-jackson-shuts-down-gay-allegations-surrounding-raffles-van-exel/#more-45000
  • hesouttamylifehesouttamylife Posts: 5,393
    I picked up on the part about Dr. Thome  :animal0017:
  • MJonmindMJonmind Posts: 7,290
    MJ:  "My father never lies..."  :icon_lol:<br />Well, except TS saying for Joe's mention of TII doubles.<br />There's so many lies within lies, and hoaxes within hoaxes, it makes my head spin right round.
  • ShyBleuEyesShyBleuEyes Posts: 623
    Yeah,  :Pulling_hair: i had hoped after all these time we would be certain for at least one thing! Sometimes i think we will never know he truth.. We don't know nothing for sure, we don't even know if Michael is still with us here at the forum, i had this feeling before,... like he was present here, but somehow it feels like Michael is not supporting us for some time now.<br />Still i am here everyday( like many of us) because my (our) heart(s) is/are filled with hope and strong believe,.... that someday it will be our day again,and more important,.... that Michael has his Truimph...<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />
  • wishingstarwishingstar Posts: 2,927
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    <br />A friend told me about this; on Feb 14 he posted a pic of a white rabbit!  Another hoaxy hint!<br />http://www.quora.com/Arnold-W-Klein<br /><br />akwhiterab.jpg<br /><br />This is what we were discussing on this thread on Feb 13/14,<br />http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,23648.0.html<br />We know he was reading everything we were saying about him because he responded, especially with The Illusionist, on Jan 22.      http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,23290.msg436652.html#msg436652<br />
    <br /><br />OMGosh......this is a very white rabbit indeed!  Ugh......too funny.  Thanks for posting it MJonmind ........<br /><br />Wasn't this the thread that talked about Arnie not spelling Michael's name correctly?  I can't seem to find it...maybe I am not going back enough.....<br />anyways....I came across the Paramedic's Report again today......Michael's name was misspelled on it as well.....and the incorrect birthday was written.  <br />just made me think of the discussion about his name......<br /><br />Hope everyone is doing well.....<br />Blessings Always<br />
  • paula-cpaula-c Posts: 7,221
    The New Album coming out is not Michael Jackson!<br /><br />
    After years of silence, rumour and a sordid trial, pop singer Michael Jackson gave his first major US interview in a decade.Michael Jackson 2007<br />In 2007 at 49 appeared on the front cover of the African-American magazine Ebony to mark the 25th anniversary of Thriller – the world’s best-selling studio album that also made him a superstar. He largely shunned publicity since his 2005 trial and acquittal on child molestation charges, gave little glimpse of what the future holds despite hints in recent years that a comeback is in the works. The cover photo of the magazine’s December edition caused almost as much of a stir as the interview, which barely addresses the fallout of the trial.Michael was dressed all in white with a glowing peaches-and-cream skin. Jackson’s gradual skin whitening was caused by vitiligo.Harriette Cole, creative director of Ebony, spent a day-and-a-half with Jackson during the photo shoot and interview and said, “he came across as normal”. He’s 49. He’s a grown-up. If you learn from your challenges, then you become stronger. He certainly seemed like that,” Ms Cole told told NBC’s Today show this week.”Honestly … he was normal.”<br />Jackson, who has three children, told Ebony he was in the studio daily but did not specify whether he was working on a new album. Excerpts of the Ebony interview were released as reports emerged that Jackson could lose his famous Neverland ranch home in central California and was currently living on the US East Coast.He was said to be working with Kanye West, Akon and Will.I.Am of the Black Eyed Peas on a new Album. So anything coming out from that period should have the above singers on it? N0???<br /><br />So Sony to wants us to disregard what and whom Michael was recording with  in 2007 and the opinions of Michael’s own family members & John McClain? ??John McClain who was left with the daunting challenge of overseeing Michael’s estate & preserving & propelling his legacy? John McClain who has been Michael’s childhood friend from before they were even teenagers?<br />John McClain who was the architect behind making Janet Jackson an icon? John McClain who put her with Jimmy Jam & Terry Lewis, propelling them into superstardom? John McClain who introduced Jimmy Iovine to a guy named Ted Fields & co-founded Interscope records? John McClain who signed DeathRow Records & introduced the world to Snoop Dogg?<br />John McClain who made Dr Dre a household word?<br />John McClain who partnered Sting with Bryan Loren for his first single after leaving The Police? John McClain who is the owner & designer of the creme de la creme of recording studio? (Sony no longer owns or operates a recording facility) John McClain who signed Floetry? John McClain who successfully returned such veteran acts Ron Isley & Barry White to chart topping status? John McClain who is responsible for the Grammy Award winning collaboration between the legendary musical talents of Burt Bacarach & the aforementioned Ron Isley for “Here I Am”?<br />John McClain the guitarist who played of various Motown sessions including “Mahogany”? John McClain who was the musicsal director for the Sylvers?<br />John McClain who is responsible for far too many records to mention here?Let’s see: “Player’s Club” Soundtrack featuring the Ice Cube Hit “We Be Clubbing” Jeffrey Osborne, Atlantic Starr, Vesta Williams, New Kidz On The Block, Shanice Wilson, Randy Jackson?That John McClain?Listen if John McClain doesn’t think that it’s Michael Jackson is singing on these damn songs given his musical pedigree I’d say it’s something to be taken very seriously.If in addition to John McClain’s opinion,Michael’s Mother, his childern, his brothers, sisters, and nephews ll don’t think it’s him singing..It’s not MICHAEL
  • MJonmindMJonmind Posts: 7,290
    That's new info to me on John McClain who's been a rather mysterious character in MJ's legal life.
  • shortyshorty Posts: 211
    <br />But WHO really is John McClain..........A mysterious Person.......or is it ............in disguise.......
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    <br /> But WHO really is John McClain..........A mysterious Person.......or is it ............in disguise.......<br />
    Yeah...such a mysterious character this JM is!  Hmm...JM ...
  • shortyshorty Posts: 211
    <br />Yep......Girl_  .......you mean too.....JM.......-.......MJ......HUH.....
  • AndreaAndrea Posts: 3,787
    John McClain who actually exists?<br /><br />That is literally the most I've ever read on that guy, by far.  But try to find a confirmed pic of him and it's slim pickin's.
  • RKRK Posts: 3,019
    Can someone refresh my memory here? When did our elusive Mr John McClain say that there was vocal fakery on the Michael album?  I was of the assumption that the Estate [which Mr McClain is part of] were the ones who produced and put together this album.
  • AndreaAndrea Posts: 3,787
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    <br />Can someone refresh my memory here? When did our elusive Mr John McClain say that there was vocal fakery on the Michael album?  I was of the assumption that the Estate [which Mr McClain is part of] were the ones who produced and put together this album. <br />
    <br /><br /><br />I think there were conflicting reports as to what McClain was saying, or supposedly saying, at that time.<br /><br />I found this article by Roger Friedman, who was told McClain thought some of the vocals was an impersonator.<br /><br />http://www.huffingtonpost.com/roger-friedman/michael-jacksons-new-albu_b_776333.html<br /><br /><br />My personal thoughts on the "vocal fakery" debate are the same now as they were when the album came out - I think Michael deliberately recorded the Cascio tracks in a way that would make him sound perhaps a bit different but the vocals were still his.  To create this controversy.  There would be no need for the "Estate" to use an impersonator with all of the previously recorded (or newly recorded!) songs of MJ that exist.
  • ShyBleuEyesShyBleuEyes Posts: 623
    http://teammichaeljackson.com/archives/5432 <br /><br />This is a link with an Picture of John mcClain, but its not an confirmed pic.
  • paula-cpaula-c Posts: 7,221
    Private Bank and Michael Jackson  <br /><br />John Branco is the attorney whose close relationship with Sony and use  of a clearly Fraudulent Will to settle the Jackson Estate (with the help of Harvey Levin,Howard Weitzman and Randy Phillips of AEG) lead most true friends of Jackson’s to believe he has no rights to the music catalogue. His law firm has 2 seats on the Board of Private Bank of California.
    <br /><br /><br />http://www.arnoldwklein.com/?p=2915
  • MJonmindMJonmind Posts: 7,290
    Restoring the most famous face in the world<br />Posted on April 15, 2013 by AWKMD<br />aBenAWK-copy.jpg<br /><br />Everyday I receive  emails,letters and messages about how I was able to make Michael’s facial appearance so great for the film” This is it. ” Well to begin with he was a very handsome but Michael was to me much more than a patient .  In my second year of Medical School I lost my brother Sandy. Sandy was extremely bright and he  was the closest ally I had not only  in my disconnected family but in the world. If that was not enough three months later I lost my Father. The total lack of  empathy I received from my classmates and  faculty at Penn Med disgusted me. Their interests seem to lie in diseases not  people. I remember on rounds one day we had a patient with mild liver disease . The resident took us to his bedside ,closed the drape on this multi patient  ward and in front of 20 medical students virtually tore this man’s gown off finding humour in his body’s structure and how his pubic hair was altered by his  malfunctioning liver.I was embarrassed how he  was treated and for the behavior of the resident. Once done the resident threw the gown on the patient who quickly covered his genitals, but before he could get dressed the resident swung the drape open revealing the patient’s naked body to the ward. This was inhumane as was the manner in which  I was treated after my brother and fathers death.  <br /><br />I had been reading about the direct heroin maintenance program in London and  the physician who ran the Clinic at St. George’s hospital seemed very concerned about the welfare(as in well being not food stamps)of his patients as well as  their addiction. He did not treat diseases he treated people. So  I got a fellowship to study heroin addiction treatment  in London. I had seen the wards at Penn filling with addicts and no one new what to do. Methadone was a very horrible opiate in that it was so long acting, Soon I was in London funded by  3 US Government. <br /><br />Once there I studied addiction and neurology with Roger Bannister. A strange thing then happened that would change my entire life. One day at St. George’s they brought in a barbituate overdose  and the senior dermatologist took one look and knew its identity. It was like a Kandinsky on the skin. Between going to the Tate Museum and hanging out with the senior derm. Ultimately I fell in love with art and dermatology. I wrote a book about my experiences working in the heroin clinics that became a mild best seller and Dermatology became my lifes choice. Throughout my life in dermatology few people became members of my family like Michael Jackson was one of them. From paying for children’s costly operations to  funerals for impoverished Motown stars  he had a huge heart and mind. I remember his relationship with Ryan White,the passage the Ryan White under the Elder President Bush and how Michael in so many ways changed the world. Michael was my patient, friend,confidant and truly my brother.  <br /><br />      When I  walked  in the room  to see Micheal after he came to Los Angeles from Las Vegas I wanted to hug him but I was stunned. He had lost a tremendous amount of weight and the acne scars and lupus scars were visible. He had totally lost the cleft in his  chin and the surface of his face was not smooth.There were visible lumps  from an injectable and the areas under his eyes pouched out. Was it Sculptra,was it Radiesse  I did not know but suddenly he burst into tears . “My face looks like the surface of the moon and I can’t perform like this.” He did not ask me if I could fix it but told me I was the only one who could. He had seen plastic surgeons who wanted to cut the lumps out but was very leary of anyone with a scalpel. Thus began my journey to repair the most famous face in the world.<br /><br />      I went home that night in a slight state of  shock.  First I called Mark Honzel and  addiction specialist and Allen Metger his internist. The injection sessions would be 3 hours long and we would use Demerol to sedate him.The lumps were my greatest concern and his beautiful almond shape eyes needed to be restored. I knew  some had injected into these filler lumps  a mixture of a mild steroid with an anticancer drug (5FU) with incredible results. Since the lumps were essentially a reaction of his immune system to the injectable filler would the anticancer drug be enough to stop the  immune reaction ( it stops cell division) to allow the injectable be absorbed. Sure enough the lumps of Radiesse and Sculptra(substances I won’t use because of their propensity to make lumps )began to dissolve. Under his eyes the blue discoloration indicated he had been over-filled with I learn Juvederm. This responded to hyaluronidase. As the days progressed his true facial palate  became more visible. Michael was very specific on how he wanted to look. He wanted an angular face with very little volume.<br /><br />      I had been developing a system to restructured the jawline and lateral zygomatic arches  with Juvederm by flowing the material under the skin.  The flowing filler would  pull the skin tight and  the scars became barely visible.  To round the eyes and open them up  I put 2 units of Botox on the skin under his pupil and 2 on the skin between his pupil and latera[  corner of his eye.<br /> <br />The upper lip was a bit of a challenge, he wanted an edge but was full above the lip  between the lip and nose which gave him what he called a”bubbles” look. I injected his upper iip and luckily it pulled all the fullness out of the area above his li <br /><br />Restoring his nose was another challenge.He wanted the volume restored but in no way wanted a fat nose.  My solution was to flow the filler up the sides of the nose to the center to elevate the bridge. Further in one the last video’s he made before “This is It “you could  see up his nostrils. To prevent this I recreated a little thickness with filler on his lower nose.<br /><br />To recreate the cleft in his chin I injected from center out with the filler and it work great. When I was finally done  went to celebrate in Paris for a month. Only to return to the worst month of my life!
    http://www.arnoldwklein.com/?p=3093<br /><br />In all the pics we've seen of MJ in 2008, early 2009, MJ looked great.  And how is it that AK hasn't been paid for his work?<br />Perhaps MJ's visits were hoax-related and not medical.<br />Here's MJ on May 28, 2008, with Christian Audigier, and his cleft is there, and face looks awesome as usual.<br /><br />article-0-015E4F2900000578-345_468x341.jpg
  • RKRK Posts: 3,019
    New TMZ article just up about an arrest warrant for Arnie Klein being issued.<br />http://www.tmz.com/2013/04/24/michael-jacksons-doctor-arnie-klein-bankruptcy-arrest-warrant/
  • paula-cpaula-c Posts: 7,221
    Arnie will continue singing like a canary?
  • paula-cpaula-c Posts: 7,221
    The page of Arnold the page  not open
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