4 years on, it's time to accept reality

In 2012, I posted here that fans need to accept reality and move on with their lives. Some, understandably, didn't take that too well.<br />http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,22100.0.html<br /><br />I then posted the following before I left:<br />I have enjoyed my brief time here. I came with only a positive attitude and while most welcomed me, I'm sorry others reacted with so much anger. But I'm even grateful to them for taking the time to answer my questions. Oh, wait, they didn't actually answer any of my questions.<br /><br />Good luck. I'll check back in a year to see how the investigation is progressing.<br />www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,22143.msg388689.html<br /><br />I returned in February to check back and posted the following:<br /><br />Well, I'm checking back, as promised, and as I expected, nothing has changed. As I said last year, what I say is out of concern, not malice. Everyone is free to believe what they want, but the longer this goes on, the more of you should hopefully come to finally accept he's gone and that you've been waiting for something that can never happen. I'm sorry but I too wish MJ was still alive, but he's not.<br />http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,23639.msg437310.html#msg437310<br /><br />And now it's four years to the day since MJ died. Everyone is free to choose what they believe, but I think prolonging the fantasy that he's alive is just delaying the inevitable, which is coming to terms with the fact he's gone. How much longer do you want to keep fantasising that he's alive? Another 6 months? Another year? Two years? Five years? With everything that's happened recently, like Paris' suicide attempt, I see many of you panicking and trying to make it fit with your theories. I honestly thought that tragic incident would be a wake-up call but even that you've just incorporated into your fantasies. You genuinely want to believe that Michael is behind the scenes wanting the world to know every lurid detail about his health and mental state, that he's orchestrating the current trial and that he staged his own daughter's suicide attempt. This has gone beyond being in denial into out and out sickness.<br /><br />I know I'll be banned imminently, as I was last time. That's fine. My parting words are that 1 year from now, you'll still be looking for "clues" in every film and commercial you watch, still telling each other "the best is yet to come", still telling each other that any day now he'll return, but the fact is, he's never returning, and for your own sake, it's time to accept reality, accept that his family - his mother, his father, his siblings - have repeatedly referred to him as being dead, and accept that his daughter is in a bad place emotionally because she lost her father and not for any bizarre, made-up reason that you've come up with to try and make it fit with your theories.
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  • "I know I'll be banned imminently"<br /><br />Dont get my hopes up...
  • becbec Posts: 6,387
    Why are you so obsessed with this? I think it's time for you to move on, non-believer. Let it go. Focus on more positive pursuits for you. Good luck.<br /><br />To everyone else: Happy 4 year anniversary of the day the whole world went crazy.
  • iloveyoumoreiloveyoumore Posts: 307
    Sure  :icon_rolleyes:<br /><br />Thanks bec, same to you. And to everyone.
  • SarahliSarahli Posts: 4,265
    on 1372181208:
    <br />Why are you so obsessed with this? I think it's time for you to move on, non-believer. Let it go. Focus on more positive pursuits for you. Good luck.<br /><br />To everyone else: Happy 4 year anniversary of the day the whole world went crazy.<br />
    <br /><br />True. <br /><br />Happy 4 years to you, bec.  :bearhug:
  • 6/25 is like a birthday for the Hoax Community..<br /><br />Happy Birthday everyone!  :multiplespotting:<br />
  • hopihopi Posts: 195
    on 1372181208:
    <br />Why are you so obsessed with this? I think it's time for you to move on, non-believer. Let it go. Focus on more positive pursuits for you. Good luck.<br /><br />To everyone else: Happy 4 year anniversary of the day the whole world went crazy.<br />
    <br /><br />That's what I don't understand aswell... Isn't it OUR business to do/write/think what WE please?! At least it's NOT your business...<br /><br /> :bearhug: to ALL of you out there!
  • AndreaAndrea Posts: 3,787
    <br />Happy 4 years everyone!  You too HistoricallyInvincible! "The best is yet to come!"  :icon_lol:<br />
  • cassicassi Posts: 175
    I dont understand the bitterness towards beLIEvers, when there are so many people that say hateful things about michael. at least the beLIEvers love him, unlike the people that are falsely accusing him. Whether he is alive or dead i dont think michael would be offended by the beLIEvers so neither should you, now have a seat.
  • blankieblankie Posts: 2,350
    on 1372182315:
    <br /> Happy 4 years everyone!  You too HistoricallyInvincible! "The best is yet to come!"  :icon_lol:<br />
    <br /><br /><br />Four years UNITED IN L.O.V.E.  :bearhug:  Love you all friends, happy June 25 !!!! It's a great adventure !!!  :bearhug: :moonwalk_:<br /><br />                    <br />              WRITIN%7E1.GIF
  • Hi HistorycallyInvincible, although I respect your opinion, obviously I'm not with you on this. Thinking about the 4 years "to get it right", to get the wrongs righted, I believe that this hoax will end this year probably October (start counting at October 28, 2009).<br /><br /><br /><br />I'll NEVER stop beLIEving, I'll NEVER stop L.O.V.E.'ng and I will be waiting for the BIGGEST show on earth! <br /><br />LOVE always<br /><br /><br /><br />*edited post*
  • JosJos Posts: 360
    Just wanted to "retweet" this :)  :LolLolLolLol:<br /><br />
    on 1372181208:
    <br />Why are you so obsessed with this? I think it's time for you to move on, non-believer. Let it go. Focus on more positive pursuits for you. Good luck.<br /><br />To everyone else: Happy 4 year anniversary of the day the whole world went crazy.<br />
  • AnnaAnna Posts: 17
    on 1372181208:
    <br />Why are you so obsessed with this? I think it's time for you to move on, non-believer. Let it go. Focus on more positive pursuits for you. Good luck.<br /><br />To everyone else: Happy 4 year anniversary of the day the whole world went crazy.<br />
    <br /><br />Go there Bec!..... :th_bravo:  ......i love to read and hear about beLIEvers such as yourself,i think its wonderful!!<br />Thanku 4 being such a great beLIEver.... :bearhug:
  • Um I didn't see anyone 'panicking' over Paris suicide story, trying to 'fit it in' to theories...<br /><br />And what? Your theory is to deny the evidence he is not dead and believe he is simply because 4 yrs have lapsed? No thanks. Can't deny logic. No amount of time that passes whether Mr Jackson ever returns or not, should incite one to believe he is dead. Especially because of the blatant clues / evidence that he's alive and that the death was a sham. The amount of time that has lapsed is irrelevant to the facts that are, because no amount of time that lapses can change evidence. Therefore 'time' is a "non issue"<br /><br /><br /><br />Happy four years people!!! My only single regret is that I wish I arrived at the party earlier!! Since joining (2 yrs in aug!!) it's been awesome.  <br />:multiplespotting:<br /><br />Hoaxing isn't torturous. (Jmo) It's liberating and stimulating. Wouldn't trade it for the world, as I have loved every minute and continue to enjoy it.<br /><br />Thank you Michael. Thank you team. Thank you Souza / Mods / all participants!!<br /><br />L.O.V.E  :smiley_abuv:<br /><br /><br /><br /><br />EDITED POST<br />
  • applehead250609applehead250609 Posts: 2,615
    on 1372180458:
    <br />In 2012, I posted here that fans need to accept reality and move on with their lives. Some, understandably, didn't take that too well.<br />http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,22100.0.html<br /><br />I then posted the following before I left:<br />I have enjoyed my brief time here. I came with only a positive attitude and while most welcomed me, I'm sorry others reacted with so much anger. But I'm even grateful to them for taking the time to answer my questions. Oh, wait, they didn't actually answer any of my questions.<br /><br />Good luck. I'll check back in a year to see how the investigation is progressing.<br />www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,22143.msg388689.html<br /><br />I returned in February to check back and posted the following:<br /><br />Well, I'm checking back, as promised, and as I expected, nothing has changed. As I said last year, what I say is out of concern, not malice. Everyone is free to believe what they want, but the longer this goes on, the more of you should hopefully come to finally accept he's gone and that you've been waiting for something that can never happen. I'm sorry but I too wish MJ was still alive, but he's not.<br />http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,23639.msg437310.html#msg437310<br /><br />And now it's four years to the day since MJ died. Everyone is free to choose what they believe, but I think prolonging the fantasy that he's alive is just delaying the inevitable, which is coming to terms with the fact he's gone. How much longer do you want to keep fantasising that he's alive? Another 6 months? Another year? Two years? Five years? With everything that's happened recently, like Paris' suicide attempt, I see many of you panicking and trying to make it fit with your theories. I honestly thought that tragic incident would be a wake-up call but even that you've just incorporated into your fantasies. You genuinely want to believe that Michael is behind the scenes wanting the world to know every lurid detail about his health and mental state, that he's orchestrating the current trial and that he staged his own daughter's suicide attempt. This has gone beyond being in denial into out and out sickness.<br /><br />I know I'll be banned imminently, as I was last time. That's fine. My parting words are that 1 year from now, you'll still be looking for "clues" in every film and commercial you watch, still telling each other "the best is yet to come", still telling each other that any day now he'll return, but the fact is, he's never returning, and for your own sake, it's time to accept reality, accept that his family - his mother, his father, his siblings - have repeatedly referred to him as being dead, and accept that his daughter is in a bad place emotionally because she lost her father and not for any bizarre, made-up reason that you've come up with to try and make it fit with your theories.<br />
    <br /><br /> ??? No sir.Just NO !!!!!<br />daniel1.gif
  • Edited my last post. Makes so much more sense, lol!!!<br /><br /><br />Stupid faulty iPhone keypad!
  • SouzaSouza Posts: 9,400
    Those with patience and endurance will be rewarded, the ones calling them crazy and sad will eat their words and we won't have to wait that long for that to happen...if you ask me.<br /><br />Happy belated death day.

    "For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."

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    No amount of time that passes whether Mr Jackson ever returns or not, should incite one to believe he is dead.
    <br /><br />Well, you DO know everyone dies eventually, right? So even if he was alive, I don't see how it makes sense to say "No amount of time that passes whether Mr Jackson ever returns or not, should incite one to believe he is dead". If he's not back in 30 years, it'll be more than safe to say he's dead.
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    on 1372220143:
    No amount of time that passes whether Mr Jackson ever returns or not, should incite one to believe he is dead.
    <br /><br />Well, you DO know everyone dies eventually, right? So even if he was alive, I don't see how it makes sense to say "No amount of time that passes whether Mr Jackson ever returns or not, should incite one to believe he is dead". If he's not back in 30 years, it'll be more than safe to say he's dead.<br />
    <br /><br />Girl, bye.
  • mattiemattie Posts: 296
    on 1372234548:
    <br />Those with patience and endurance will be rewarded, the ones calling them crazy and sad will eat their words and we won't have to wait that long for that to happen...if you ask me.<br /><br />Happy belated death day.<br />
    <br /><br />It is good to see you posting again Souza! :icon_razz:<br />I am still patient and waiting.<br />Reading and learning every day.<br /><br />Groetjes uit Zwolle!<br />
  • applehead250609applehead250609 Posts: 2,615
    on 1372240390:
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    on 1372220143:
    No amount of time that passes whether Mr Jackson ever returns or not, should incite one to believe he is dead.
    <br /><br />Well, you DO know everyone dies eventually, right? So even if he was alive, I don't see how it makes sense to say "No amount of time that passes whether Mr Jackson ever returns or not, should incite one to believe he is dead". If he's not back in 30 years, it'll be more than safe to say he's dead.<br />
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  • on 1372250679:
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    <br /><br />So you're saying you think he's immortal?
  • becbec Posts: 6,387
    No, she's saying come back in 30 years and then you'll have a point.
  • susieMJsusieMJ Posts: 43
    I just can't understand people who say that they decide to stop believing bcs this is way too long and that they won't wait forever.... I mean this hoax is just so logical (oh..maybe with some exceptions lol) that once you've realized MJ faked his death, nothing can change your conviction... It's like saying - "ok, i stop believing in gravity" while still living in the same world.... - it's just absuuurrddd! <br />Ps. Happy birthday everyone!!!! (I'm sure we're getting on deaders' nerves while saying this :P)
  • OK, well I made my points. I didn't expect to change anyone's minds, and I didn't come to make trouble or troll. I just wanted to give an objective perspective on what you're all saying. I'll leave you to it.
  • on 1372240390:
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    on 1372220143:
    No amount of time that passes whether Mr Jackson ever returns or not, should incite one to believe he is dead.
    <br /><br />Well, you DO know everyone dies eventually, right? So even if he was alive, I don't see how it makes sense to say "No amount of time that passes whether Mr Jackson ever returns or not, should incite one to believe he is dead". If he's not back in 30 years, it'll be more than safe to say he's dead.<br />
    <br /><br /><br />Wow how facetious. Of course he will die a happy old man in the distant future. He is mortal and human after all.<br /><br />If you're splitting hairs, I'm saying that no matter how much time passes, 4 yrs, 6, yrs, 10 yrs, heck even 500 years, it doesn't change the fact / shouldn't incite one to believe he died on 25.06.09. Referring to death hoax date if you want me to be more precise. 500 years can pass. Doesn't change the fact nothing adds up on 25.06.09 and all signs point to hoax.<br /><br /> :icon_rolleyes:<br /><br />Time is irrelevant. <br /><br /><br />And by the way, the investigators have been 'objective' which is why a hoax can be deduced. It is 'emotive' reasoning instead of 'objective' reasoning that says that he's dead.<br /><br /><br />Anyways, well wishes and good luck to you. Something tells me that on the 5th anniversary of the hoax, you won't be back telling people to accept reality that MJ is dead....<br /><br /> :LolLolLolLol:<br /><br /><br /> :michael-jackson:  :michael-jackson:  :michael-jackson:
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