<br />No apologies here. I stand by my statement :icon_neutral:<br /><br />Truth is truth whether it's pleasant to hear or not.<br /><br /><br />Celebritys are who they are in part due to their fans. <br /><br />When they cease to respect those fans, they are no longer worthy of the stardom they enjoy.<br /><br />There's an old saying "fame makes you who you really are". <br /><br /><br /><br />JB lost my respect when he began to disrespect his fans. :icon_evil:<br /><br /><br />JB is a troubled young man and I hope he gets help.<br /><br /><br />Neverland was always Michaels vision...it should definitely remain in his families possession!<br />
<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />disgust!! And them happy :icon_e_confused:
GUYS <br />THINKING OUT OF THE BOX HERE!<br />BUT THIS NEW INTEREST IN NEVERLAND! <br /><br />COULD THIS HAVE SOMETHING TO DO WITH MICHAELS UP AND COMING BIRTHDAY? <br /><br />I'M SURE I READ THAT THE OWNER OPENS UPNEVERLAND FOR ONE DAY ON MICHAELS BIRTHDAY FOR EVERYONE TO VISIT! <br /><br />COULD BE A SELLING POINT AS MICHAELS BIRTHDAY IS SOON AND HE WILL BE 55 YEARS OLD AND THAT MEANS HE'S IN THE MUSIC INDUSTRY FOR 50 YEARS!<br /><br />KINNA MAKES SENSE TO MAKE IT NEWS! <br />
<br />No apologies here. I stand by my statement :icon_neutral:<br /><br />Truth is truth whether it's pleasant to hear or not.<br /><br /><br />Celebritys are who they are in part due to their fans. <br /><br />When they cease to respect those fans, they are no longer worthy of the stardom they enjoy.<br /><br />There's an old saying "fame makes you who you really are". <br /><br /><br /><br />JB lost my respect when he began to disrespect his fans. :icon_evil:<br /><br /><br />JB is a troubled young man and I hope he gets help.<br /><br /><br />Neverland was always Michaels vision...it should definitely remain in his families possession!<br />
<br /><br />He LOVES me,he HATES me not,he HATES me,he LOVES me not,he LOVES me,he HATES me yes :argue: :icon_lol::LolLolLolLol: !!! Oh Mike you are such a nutty boy nd this is so much fun :thjajaja121: !!!<br />The pictures are so fake, that even the word fake, has lost the real meaning lol :LolLolLolLol:.TMZ is behind all this ALLEGED spitt,ALLEGED victim,ALLEGED etc :icon_rolleyes: :woohoo2: .<br /><br /><br />
"Justin didn't spit on anyone. No fans were below the balcony. TMZ superimposed photos of the fans next to Justin on a completely different balcony to make it appear like he was spitting on fans when he wasn't. In fact, earlier in the day, Justin bought his fans hot chocolate and played them some of his new music. Justin loves his fans."
<br /><br />Oh ya,and about that super duper photo of Justin.....naked : If his own grandmother loves him, just the way he is,why can't I ?<br /><br /><br /><br /> “I Loooove you grandmaaaa … how are youuuu … helloooo grandma.”<br /><br />Weird.<br /><br />Either way, TMZ reports that Justin’s granny thought it was pretty darn funny, but insisted that he go back upstairs and put his clothes on. :icon_geek:<br /><br />P.S. Who knows maybe even that photo with his grandma is fake :icon_idea: :icon_e_confused: :thjajaja121: :thjajaja121: :thjajaja121:!!!!!!
<br />@Sunset...it's incredible that you make the conclusion that I am hating when I never mentioned that once in my post. So no, you are right, I don't know where you are coming from. You are obviously not understanding what I'm saying.<br /><br />I said 'House of Horrors' because like I mentioned later, it's weird if anyone else would own it, it would be horrible. That is a personal opinion and again I'll state that this issue of 'trampling on others to enhance MJ' is an incorrect perception of words that you are reading here. I'd say that I am one not particularly fond of giving MJ adoration. I'm sure you'd have a different outlook if this was someone else that took the place of MJ in this scenario or if this was not an MJ forum. <br />
<br /><br />So if my perception of what you wrote I took it the wrong way I apologise to you, it's because I have never liked the extremist thoughts.
I'm all for keeping an open mind....but are we so willing to make concessions for these celebritys behavior and not hold them accountable because they are so talented? People like Chris Brown, Linsay Lohan, Amanda Bynes, etc...are others that seem to stay in trouble in the press. <br /><br /><br />Is everything said about them fake too? :Crash: <br /><br /><br />Especially when there are some other teen celebrities WHO DON'T make such headlines?!<br /><br /><br /><br />I'm all for "love"....but also accountability!<br /><br /><br />So even if he supposedly "didn't" spit on fans....<br /><br /> He's STILL clearly leaning over a balcony spitting! That's gross no matter what the reason!<br /><br /><br />Kids look up to him.Jokes or not. :icon_neutral:<br /><br /><br />The fact that JB's even mentioned alongside Neverland is an insult to what Neverland represents.<br /><br /><br />Michael built Neverland to bring sick, underprivileged kids peace and joy. Not to "hide" some teen celebrity away from the press who is trying to get his sh*t together. <br /><br /><br /><br />So whose the next Neverland buyer?.....Lindsay Lohan? the Kardashians? or how about Honey Boo Boo? :icon_rolleyes:<br /><br /><br />
<br />@Sunset...it's incredible that you make the conclusion that I am hating when I never mentioned that once in my post. So no, you are right, I don't know where you are coming from. You are obviously not understanding what I'm saying.<br /><br />I said 'House of Horrors' because like I mentioned later, it's weird if anyone else would own it, it would be horrible. That is a personal opinion and again I'll state that this issue of 'trampling on others to enhance MJ' is an incorrect perception of words that you are reading here. I'd say that I am one not particularly fond of giving MJ adoration. I'm sure you'd have a different outlook if this was someone else that took the place of MJ in this scenario or if this was not an MJ forum. <br />
<br /><br />So if my perception of what you wrote I took it the wrong way I apologise to you, it's because I have never liked the [size=14pt]extremist thoughts[/size].<br />
<br /><br />And there you go.<br /><br />About Bieber...I did like him and I did respect him even during the time when it was the 'fashion' to hate on him (which happens with a lot of celebrities especially the Kardashians). But now look at him? I don't really have respect for him and it seems like he doesn't have respect for himself, especially after the video of him pissing in the bucket...I mean are you serious?...the janitor has to deal with that? Once he earns some respect back then I'll have no reason to dislike him, until then...he won't have any of my respect (not that he needs it).<br /><br />I've actually met Justin Bieber before and he was really nice and humble, but being nice to people doesn't or shouldn't overshadow something like that. Certainly the good things outweigh the bad and he is a teenager and people make mistakes, but I just find that disrespectful. It dehumanises a person.
I think nobody got my message, I'm not talking specifically about Bieber...my message is that we all are very sweet and understandable with Michael however some members use to jump on other people in a ruthless way from time to time and that"s not Michael's message.
[size=12pt]You're right...that wasn't his message. But then neither was it his MO to sing/write songs that say...I Live For Your Applause or Bow Down Biches. He also never stated that ...his mere presence is charity...nor did he allow his home to be used as a crash/party pad for a group of punks that have zero respect for him or his community. See the difference? Michael has always been humble...thankful to God for his talents...truly generous with those who needed it and respectful of his fellow man. The others mentioned here need huge doses of those traits to replace their current mindset...they may all be mega-wealthy...but they are not humble beings.[/size]
He sure did let his home be used as a crash pad for a bunch of punks who had zero respect for him or the community. The Arviso's. <br /><br />Just sayin.
<br />He sure did let his home be used as a crash pad for a bunch of punks who had zero respect for him or the community. The Arviso's. <br /><br />Just sayin.<br />
<br /><br />[size=12pt]I actually did think about them as I typed that part of my post. The difference is (in my personal opinion anyway) that it was his distancing himself from them and trying to get them to leave (once he saw their real deal) that actually precipitated their trumping up the BS for money. In other words, if he wasn't going to give it...they were going to take it. At least he realized the problem and tried to correct it.[/size]
off-topic alert:<br /><br />so now JB BOUGHT Mj's song 'slave to the rhythm' and remixed it....sorry, but after this I'm not very supportive of Justin.<br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IV144SKJLA4<br /><br />this shouldn't have happened...i'm fuming. <br /><br />end of rant
<br />off-topic alert:<br /><br />so now JB BOUGHT Mj's song 'slave to the rhythm' and remixed it....sorry, but after this I'm not very supportive of Justin.<br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IV144SKJLA4<br /><br />this shouldn't have happened...i'm fuming. <br /><br />end of rant<br />
<br /><br /><br /><br />Ya ,ya I already have listened this song in the morning :thjajaja121: :thjajaja121: :thjajaja121: !!!! I'm telling you ,somebody is watching this site and I think that is not very pleased the way people speak about little Justin .Who knows maybe Michael is that one :suspect: :icon_lol: .Hi MIKE :beerchug: !!!!! It was supposedly recorded during Invincible and JB is working with Jerkins,so......... :thjajaja121: :thjajaja121: :thjajaja121: !!!!<br /><br /><br />Justin Bieber @justinbieber 1m<br />All of it is not always easy but it is a blessing. We can change the world. I'm up for the challenge. Big things ahead! #greatness. love you<br /><br />Justin Bieber @justinbieber 4m<br />Excited for what is to come. MJ set the bar. Not only for music but for being an entertainer and how u treat the fans. Wish he was here... <br /><br />
<br />[size=12pt]You're right...that wasn't his message. But then neither was it his MO to sing/write songs that say...I Live For Your Applause or Bow Down Biches. He also never stated that ...his mere presence is charity...nor did he allow his home to be used as a crash/party pad for a group of punks that have zero respect for him or his community. See the difference? Michael has always been humble...thankful to God for his talents...truly generous with those who needed it and respectful of his fellow man. The others mentioned here need huge doses of those traits to replace their current mindset...they may all be mega-wealthy...but they are not humble beings.[/size]<br />
<br />off-topic alert:<br /><br />so now JB BOUGHT Mj's song 'slave to the rhythm' and remixed it....sorry, but after this I'm not very supportive of Justin.<br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IV144SKJLA4<br /><br />this shouldn't have happened...i'm fuming. <br /><br />end of rant<br />
<br />Link don't work.<br /><br />Maybe he'll do a good job. Let's wait n see.<br />
<br /><br /><br />I'm so disappointed. He changed the beat and sped up the tempo. I'm not even a Bieber basher, but I wish he would have left the song alone :icon_mad:
semi back to topic...... ;Di wonder if there were rumors of other celebrities going to by graceland back after elvis death? :LolLolLolLol:<br /><br />you know media knows it will get a rise out of fans :Pulling_hair:
I like the beat, but his voice doesn't gel with the song. That's just how I feel. But it is kinda weird with the NV talk and STTR being released with Bieber and like Mary K said on the other thread, that it was released on Bieber's Vevo channel and Sony owns Vevo so...
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