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  • MissGMissG Posts: 7,403
    http://wakeupfromyourslumber.com/node/6250

    "People may misunderstand almost everything to match their points of view." Extract what already think of art. "I wonder how many people have changed mind about something important thanks to a work of art."
    Stanley Kubrick <!-- s8-) -->8-)<!-- s8-) -->


    Art has been used to reach the masses and to express a thought, idea or opinion but again, not many people will get the point that the artists want to achieve. Then, what is the point?, for who is the message?

    Ambiguous meaning to me sounds like "is up to you"!and my answer is: yes, of course is up to me, but if you wantto make your message CLEAR, try to do it in a way that reaches ALL KINDS OF MINDS.
  • raluralu Posts: 97
    I love this new redirect:
    <!-- m -->http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhAxTYem ... r_embedded<!-- m -->

    About the religios redirect, I too believe it is at least a dangerous choice. Regardless the fact that MJ always fownd a way of braking the religious bariers, even though he believed in Jesus Christ, I think is wrong to allow people to consider him other than a human being. Asigning to him messianic qualities, alters his immage IMO, because some would think that he considers himself as being Christ (Which we all know he repeteadly denied and explained he only imitates Jesus, which all of us should do.) Moreover, sorry, but quotes as the one posted by Jill on the previous page, connected with the paralell made between Michael and Christe, make me think about the fact that someone is trying to say that MJ - in the case of his return - will prove to be the Antichirst...healed from an uncurable illness (or rased from death), many considering him as being good and pure and intending to save the world, but in fact they being under deluding influence, having power for only 3 and half yers (if we think about the 2012 theory and we calculate the time since his death, well...). This is my humble opinion. I think MJ is a grate person, a genial artist, a lovely father, the best model to follow in matter of dedication and love and kindness and humanity, but to assign him holly, godlike powers, is simply unfair for his immage and for his fans.

    Hugs and love to all of you.
  • jilljill Posts: 917
    I love this new redirect:
    <!-- m -->http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhAxTYem ... r_embedded<!-- m -->

    About the religios redirect, I too believe it is at least a dangerous choice. Regardless the fact that MJ always fownd a way of braking the religious bariers, even though he believed in Jesus Christ, I think is wrong to allow people to consider him other than a human being. Asigning to him messianic qualities, alters his immage IMO, because some would think that he considers himself as being Christ (Which we all know he repeteadly denied and explained he only imitates Jesus, which all of us should do.) Moreover, sorry, but quotes as the one posted by Jill on the previous page, connected with the paralell made between Michael and Christe, make me think about the fact that someone is trying to say that MJ - in the case of his return - will prove to be the Antichirst...healed from an uncurable illness (or rased from death), many considering him as being good and pure and intending to save the world, but in fact they being under deluding influence, having power for only 3 and half yers (if we think about the 2012 theory and we calculate the time since his death, well...). This is my humble opinion. I think MJ is a grate person, a genial artist, a lovely father, the best model to follow in matter of dedication and love and kindness and humanity, but to assign him holly, godlike powers, is simply unfair for his immage and for his fans.

    Hugs and love to all of you.

    Ralu,
    I posted the text because to understand the one scripture of the redirect you have to see the whole context it was taken from. I thought it would help bring understanding to those who have little Bible knowledge. The notes I made were to bring clarity. I am in no way trying to sway anyone to one belief or another. The text is referring to the second coming of Christ and what will happen according to the scriptures. In reference to the 42 months the antichrist will be in power, cannot be the year 2012. The antichrist has not been revealed yet. He will seat himself in the temple in Jerusalem and claim to be Christ. It clearly states that until what restrains him is removed he will not come to power. Many theologians believe the prayers of the church or the presence of the Holy spirit is the restraining force, and the "catching away" or " rapture of the church" will be when this force is removed. Jesus return will not come until after the 42 months. Michael did not in any way want to people to think he was claiming to be God, Jesus or any deity at all. He was very adamant about this in several interviews. However, if the Illuminati was involved, could it be their agenda was just the opposite? We know their goal is to establish the NWO and have one global leader. It would have to be someone that people trust and believe to be good. Would the masses follow someone that is blatantly evil? You must have understanding of what the scriptural prophecies mean to see clearly what the Illuminati may be planning. Please read between the lines. We know that MJ was resisting and breaking away from them. Mj did have faith in God and God does protect His own. I do think he was aware of what they were trying to use him for and planned his escape. I truly hope he did, in fact pull it off.
  • PammyPammy Posts: 74
    unfortunatly i cant watch that video in my country. Is it possible to post it here again?
  • paula-cpaula-c Posts: 7,221
    <!-- m -->http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njqGu9QxC4U<!-- m -->

    The global economic crisis wreaks havoc. Men and nations may fail to find solutions. The Bible says in the days of the end time there will be a condition of global economic crisis.

    The black horse of Famine, apparently is beginning a run more strongly in the prophetic scenario.

    Remember that Jesus said even the stones speak ...


    I'm Gemma, I know that is not the comment that you expect, but that come to mind these things ......... <!-- s:mrgreen: -->:mrgreen:<!-- s:mrgreen: -->
  • raluralu Posts: 97
    I love this new redirect:
    <!-- m -->http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhAxTYem ... r_embedded<!-- m -->

    About the religios redirect, I too believe it is at least a dangerous choice. Regardless the fact that MJ always fownd a way of braking the religious bariers, even though he believed in Jesus Christ, I think is wrong to allow people to consider him other than a human being. Asigning to him messianic qualities, alters his immage IMO, because some would think that he considers himself as being Christ (Which we all know he repeteadly denied and explained he only imitates Jesus, which all of us should do.) Moreover, sorry, but quotes as the one posted by Jill on the previous page, connected with the paralell made between Michael and Christe, make me think about the fact that someone is trying to say that MJ - in the case of his return - will prove to be the Antichirst...healed from an uncurable illness (or rased from death), many considering him as being good and pure and intending to save the world, but in fact they being under deluding influence, having power for only 3 and half yers (if we think about the 2012 theory and we calculate the time since his death, well...). This is my humble opinion. I think MJ is a grate person, a genial artist, a lovely father, the best model to follow in matter of dedication and love and kindness and humanity, but to assign him holly, godlike powers, is simply unfair for his immage and for his fans.

    Hugs and love to all of you.

    Ralu,
    I posted the text because to understand the one scripture of the redirect you have to see the whole context it was taken from. I thought it would help bring understanding to those who have little Bible knowledge. The notes I made were to bring clarity. I am in no way trying to sway anyone to one belief or another. The text is referring to the second coming of Christ and what will happen according to the scriptures. In reference to the 42 months the antichrist will be in power, cannot be the year 2012. The antichrist has not been revealed yet. He will seat himself in the temple in Jerusalem and claim to be Christ. It clearly states that until what restrains him is removed he will not come to power. Many theologians believe the prayers of the church or the presence of the Holy spirit is the restraining force, and the "catching away" or " rapture of the church" will be when this force is removed. Jesus return will not come until after the 42 months. Michael did not in any way want to people to think he was claiming to be God, Jesus or any deity at all. He was very adamant about this in several interviews. However, if the Illuminati was involved, could it be their agenda was just the opposite? We know their goal is to establish the NWO and have one global leader. It would have to be someone that people trust and believe to be good. Would the masses follow someone that is blatantly evil? You must have understanding of what the scriptural prophecies mean to see clearly what the Illuminati may be planning. Please read between the lines. We know that MJ was resisting and breaking away from them. Mj did have faith in God and God does protect His own. I do think he was aware of what they were trying to use him for and planned his escape. I truly hope he did, in fact pull it off.

    Jill, oh dear, by no means I was putting the blame on you. I know you were just putting the puzzle pieces together. I kind of disagree the redirects with this type of religious meanning related to MJ's immage. People might interpreting things as I explained before, and by saying this, I'm thinking about the fact that not once I met people in these forums honestly believing that MJ was Jesus Christ. Now think about what the neutral people (to whom the news is offered by this naive persons) are thinking about what is preached to the MJ fans and how they will "spread the news" on their turn.

    As you can see on my previews comment, I've already underlined the fact that Michael is hurted because some would claim that he considers himself Christ. As for the predictions regarding the 2nd coming of Christ, it is my opinion that those should be read between the lines. The same for NWO...I wouldn't consider the crimes and corruption and the greed of money and power as having oculte powers. I rather think that the real criminals would prefer us to be concerned about sorcery and mind control than about their desgusting, material, illegalities and conspiracies.

    I invite you all to rewatch the "We are the world" memorial version and to pay good attantion to the backround screen. Wasn't the message clear enough? I cannot save my tears every time I see this fragment from the memorial.

    <!-- m -->http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVgjMwOPJYc<!-- m -->
  • MissGMissG Posts: 7,403


    The global economic crisis wreaks havoc. Men and nations may fail to find solutions. The Bible says in the days of the end time there will be a condition of global economic crisis.

    The black horse of Famine, apparently is beginning a run more strongly in the prophetic scenario.

    Remember that Jesus said even the stones speak ...


    I'm Gemma, I know that is not the comment that you expect, but that come to mind these things ......... <!-- s:mrgreen: -->:mrgreen:<!-- s:mrgreen: -->

    I really did not understand your point <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) --> Tell me in Spanish pls, may be I understand it better.
  • paula-cpaula-c Posts: 7,221
    Permission to all I go to do a commentary in Spanish, to answer to Gema


    Gema simplemente bromeo por mi interpretacion biblica, yo se que ya planteastes tu posicion hacerca de las redirecciones de TIAI, referente a temas biblicos. <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
  • 22-2-10
    Today's redirection is page 6 of this thread
    Again the 777 pic

    <!-- l -->viewtopic.php?f=72&t=27&start=125#p2255<!-- l -->
  • AdiAdi Posts: 1,834
    Today’s TIAI redirection

    <!-- l -->viewtopic.php?f=72&t=27&start=125#p2255<!-- l -->

    to the picture of Michael with 777 on his shirt had me thinking:

    Michael obviously wanted the 777 there for a reason, especially since it wasn’t there during the entirety of This Is It. He wanted us to notice it there.

    I wondered if it is suggesting 7 months, 7 weeks, 7 days from his “death” on 25 June 2009.

    Using inclusive reckoning (as explained by STUDY /TS in previous posts/updates) this takes us to the date of 21st March 2010.

    21st March 2010 is the 45th anniversary of the date when the successful Selma to Montgomery Civil Rights march began in Alabama, USA in 1965. It went for 5 days and 4 nights and ended at the State Capitol Building in Montgomery, Alabama. The march covered 54 miles.

    On the steps of the State Capitol Building is where Martin Luther King Jr. delivered his “How Long, Not Long” speech on 25th March 1965.

    The Martin Luther King Jr. significance here is pretty obvious with relation to the message MJ has been trying to get us to understand all along with they “Don’t Really Care About Us” and being the constant significant theme since his “death”, the first clip which was released from TII after his “death”, the TIAI redirects, the Army of L.O.V.E. (peaceful, non-violent resistance), the dancing inmates to TDRCAU etc……

    “In what will go down in history as the greatest demonstration for freedom in the history of our nation.”

    The 21st March 2010 is also the day after the Northern Hemisphere Spring Equinox (this year the spring equinox occurs on 20th March – however in some years it does occur on 21st March)…i.e. the start of spring (growth, renewal, new life)

    Also:

    21/3/2010 adds up to 9

    21/3/1965 ALSO adds up to 9

    45th anniversary 4 + 5 = 9

    5 days + 4 nights = 9

    54 miles : 5 + 4 = 9

    LOTS of 9’s there!!!!!

    999 the number which STUDY/TS has talked about all along.

    Just sayin’

    <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D --> <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D --> <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->
  • Today’s TIAI redirection

    <!-- l -->viewtopic.php?f=72&t=27&start=125#p2255<!-- l -->

    to the picture of Michael with 777 on his shirt had me thinking:

    Michael obviously wanted the 777 there for a reason, especially since it wasn’t there during the entirety of This Is It. He wanted us to notice it there.

    I wondered if it is suggesting 7 months, 7 weeks, 7 days from his “death” on 25 June 2009.

    Using inclusive reckoning (as explained by STUDY /TS in previous posts/updates) this takes us to the date of 21st March 2010.

    21st March 2010 is the 45th anniversary of the date when the successful Selma to Montgomery Civil Rights march began in Alabama, USA in 1965. It went for 5 days and 4 nights and ended at the State Capitol Building in Montgomery, Alabama. The march covered 54 miles.

    On the steps of the State Capitol Building is where Martin Luther King Jr. delivered his “How Long, Not Long” speech on 25th March 1965.

    The Martin Luther King Jr. significance here is pretty obvious with relation to the message MJ has been trying to get us to understand all along with they “Don’t Really Care About Us” and being the constant significant theme since his “death”, the first clip which was released from TII after his “death”, the TIAI redirects, the Army of L.O.V.E. (peaceful, non-violent resistance), the dancing inmates to TDRCAU etc……

    “In what will go down in history as the greatest demonstration for freedom in the history of our nation.”

    The 21st March 2010 is also the day after the Northern Hemisphere Spring Equinox (this year the spring equinox occurs on 20th March – however in some years it does occur on 21st March)…i.e. the start of spring (growth, renewal, new life)

    Also:

    21/3/2010 adds up to 9

    21/3/1965 ALSO adds up to 9

    45th anniversary 4 + 5 = 9

    5 days + 4 nights = 9

    54 miles : 5 + 4 = 9

    LOTS of 9’s there!!!!!

    999 the number which STUDY/TS has talked about all along.

    Just sayin’

    <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D --> <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D --> <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->

    yes Adi! and in the last update of TS he said that it will be an update for 999, maybe you go by right way <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->
  • Today’s TIAI redirection

    <!-- l -->viewtopic.php?f=72&t=27&start=125#p2255<!-- l -->

    to the picture of Michael with 777 on his shirt had me thinking:

    Michael obviously wanted the 777 there for a reason, especially since it wasn’t there during the entirety of This Is It. He wanted us to notice it there.

    I wondered if it is suggesting 7 months, 7 weeks, 7 days from his “death” on 25 June 2009.

    Using inclusive reckoning (as explained by STUDY /TS in previous posts/updates) this takes us to the date of 21st March 2010.

    21st March 2010 is the 45th anniversary of the date when the successful Selma to Montgomery Civil Rights march began in Alabama, USA in 1965. It went for 5 days and 4 nights and ended at the State Capitol Building in Montgomery, Alabama. The march covered 54 miles.

    On the steps of the State Capitol Building is where Martin Luther King Jr. delivered his “How Long, Not Long” speech on 25th March 1965.

    The Martin Luther King Jr. significance here is pretty obvious with relation to the message MJ has been trying to get us to understand all along with they “Don’t Really Care About Us” and being the constant significant theme since his “death”, the first clip which was released from TII after his “death”, the TIAI redirects, the Army of L.O.V.E. (peaceful, non-violent resistance), the dancing inmates to TDRCAU etc……

    “In what will go down in history as the greatest demonstration for freedom in the history of our nation.”

    The 21st March 2010 is also the day after the Northern Hemisphere Spring Equinox (this year the spring equinox occurs on 20th March – however in some years it does occur on 21st March)…i.e. the start of spring (growth, renewal, new life)

    Also:

    21/3/2010 adds up to 9

    21/3/1965 ALSO adds up to 9

    45th anniversary 4 + 5 = 9

    5 days + 4 nights = 9

    54 miles : 5 + 4 = 9

    LOTS of 9’s there!!!!!

    999 the number which STUDY/TS has talked about all along.

    Just sayin’

    <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D --> <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D --> <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->


    and the 999 in the interview with Latoya(shopping at christmas) i think it was the price of the Dangerous album, and the page 13 of the autopsy report (when they got there with Latoya again to pluck hair from Mj head) was sign on 9-9-9....

    after the 777 come the 999 <!-- s:P -->:P<!-- s:P -->
  • lilwendylilwendy Posts: 788
    @Adi
    Please read my post Dates, Dates and More Dates http://lilwendy.wordpress.com/2010/02/11/dates-dates-and-more-dates/ and scroll down to March 20, 2010.

    If you don't know who Anton Schleiter and want to do some light reading <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) --> go to this post:
    http://lilwendy.wordpress.com/2009/10/27/i-need-help-to-make-sense-of-all-of-this/
    You don't have to read the whole thing but it will explain why I was looking at Anton Schleiter's stuff.
  • paula-cpaula-c Posts: 7,221
    lilwendy, good work with dates and numbers, now it seems strange that Tommy Mottola is in the list of invitees to the commemoration. <!-- s8-) -->8-)<!-- s8-) -->
  • livelive Posts: 6
    esto no es allí mucho más próximos a éste no es el llamado Curtin final thats what jere dijo lol




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  • jilljill Posts: 917
    I noticed on the red shirt there is also a lion with a crown on his head. One of the names for Jesus is "The Lion of The Tribe Of Judah." This is what Jesus will be called at His second coming, because at that time He will judge all according to their deeds. The number seven, biblically is the number that represents God himself. I do not know what three sevens reprents.
  • paula-cpaula-c Posts: 7,221
    <!-- m -->http://www.michaelsharp.org/en/symbols/ ... l-michael-<!-- m -->
    "You cannot change anyone else; only you can change yourself, which will change the dynamics among you". <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
  • paula-cpaula-c Posts: 7,221
    "You cannot change anyone else; only you can change yourself, which will change the dynamics among you". <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->

  • "The Archangel Michael has a sharp sword and he's not afraid to use it.
    The sword of Michael cuts through the illusion and crapola that prevents you from seeing the Truth. With the Archangel Michael on the job , you'll see things with a precision and clarity
    that makes your choice clear , obvious and straighforward .
    After that , it's up to you. No skin of our nose if you decide to curl your toes .
    However , if you stay in the old energies , if you continue in the old ways , don't expect a berth on the new ship.
    The bottom line , Michael is here to protect and uplift the children of this earth and at some point you just have to say , enough is enough."
  • MissGMissG Posts: 7,403
    Wh00t?
  • paula-cpaula-c Posts: 7,221
    <!-- m -->http://www.youtube.com/watch<!-- m -->?
    To Kill a Mockingbird

    Summary:
    In a small southern town of United States, at the time of the great depression, a white woman accuses a black man has been violated.

    While there are not nearly proof or evidence of guilt in the accused, the colour of their skin is more than enough to make their verdict unfavourable and any lawyer in the State wants to defend it. All less Arricus Finch, the more honorable citizen of the city.

    This event upsets the everyday serenity of the small community, and the fact be responsible for the defence of the accused causes innumerable problems to the honorable Atticus with various friends and neighbours, but however, and after the course of events in the trial, are gains gradually a more admiration for his two sons, maternal orphans.

    It is more or less of what treats the movie <!-- s8-) -->8-)<!-- s8-) -->
  • more or less what happened to ... someone....
  • paula-cpaula-c Posts: 7,221
    <!-- m -->http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snowball_effect<!-- m -->

    Will we ever more people that believe in the hoax?
    Will we ever more people are more conscious of the Injustices in the world and we are willing to do anything?
    Every time we are more people that are seeing very clearly the political corruption, the corruption of the media and all that is within the "established order"? <!-- s:geek: -->:geek:<!-- s:geek: -->
  • mdcmdc Posts: 343
    Okay ready for some silliness...

    My completely bonkers take on the red shirt.

    I think maybe we are over thinking the 777. Could it be that the 777 is actually just a reference to the 777's like in Vegas? I mean Vegas has to have some kind of meaning in this story since Dr. Murray and MJ himself are connected to it. So 777= casino. Okay, now on to the winged lion. The winged lion is a symbol of St. Mark the evangelist and also Venice, Italy (hence St. Mark's square). There is a Venetician Hotel and Casino in Las Vegas. Following so far? Okay, St. Mark's feast is on April 25th. On April 25, 2010 scheduled at the Venetician Hotel is the Blue Man Group. Remember the little green man from WATW? For one night only at the Venetian Hotel in Las Vegas... it's the Green Man Group featuring MJ! Hey, it could happen! <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: -->

    Call the men in the little white coats! I've finally gone 'round the bend. <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: --> I'm just going to go ahead and apologize now. Sorry folks.
  • Okay ready for some silliness...

    My completely bonkers take on the red shirt.

    I think maybe we are over thinking the 777. Could it be that the 777 is actually just a reference to the 777's like in Vegas? I mean Vegas has to have some kind of meaning in this story since Dr. Murray and MJ himself are connected to it. So 777= casino. Okay, now on to the winged lion. The winged lion is a symbol of St. Mark the evangelist and also Venice, Italy (hence St. Mark's square). There is a Venetician Hotel and Casino in Las Vegas. Following so far? Okay, St. Mark's feast is on April 25th. On April 25, 2010 scheduled at the Venetician Hotel is the Blue Man Group. Remember the little green man from WATW? For one night only at the Venetian Hotel in Las Vegas... it's the Green Man Group featuring MJ! Hey, it could happen! <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: -->

    Call the men in the little white coats! I've finally gone 'round the bend. <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: --> I'm just going to go ahead and apologize now. Sorry folks.

    Didn't MJ stay at the Venetian when he was in Vegas.....he rented out an entire floor (it was at the time of the Bashir interviews)????? Your line of thinking is highly plausible!!!
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