Glenda tapes - what do U think?
alovesmichael
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I know most of us have listened to these conversations already but I'm just a bit curious... Some refuse to believe that it's Michael speaking (thinking it's a fake) while others strongly believe it's him. What do you guys think? Thought it be interesting to see your opinions <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) --> .
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Here's the rest of the conversation, i.e. the parts that are available on YT:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2f6N-zYgzhA&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n75cwYRJR6Q&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-of0Y7MNrh8
I wish I could hear the rest of these conversations, supposedly 8 hours of them...
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Here's the rest of the conversation, i.e. the parts that are available on YT:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2f6N-zYgzhA&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n75cwYRJR6Q&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-of0Y7MNrh8
I wish I could hear the rest of these conversations, supposedly 8 hours of them...
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Oh really? Never heard about that <!-- s:o -->:o<!-- s:o --> . Please do get back to me, would be very interesting to see/hear <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) --> . Do u know anything about the rest of the recorded conversations?
-there is a part on the tapes where he is telling Glenda about his up coming concerts and where they are going to be....He can not pronounce them and has to spell them....THE REAL MJ HAS BEEN TO THESE PLACES MANY MANY TIMES! I believe one of the places was C.O.L.O.G.N.E....(don't quote me, but it was as simple as that) and he couldn't say it! He was like...ah...ummm...ahhh... He couldn't even pronounce the name of the HOSPITAL he had just been to that day! MJ has done this his whole life and has been to these places many times and I have heard him pronounce many many strange names on demand. This was someone who was not familiar with these places and was seeing them for the first time on paper and couldn't pronounce them.
-the second thing...the lady pretending to be MJ was enjoying a WINE COOLER...If anyone read the transcripts to MJ's trial, you will see numerous people talk about the drinks MJ preferred....they were NOT wine coolers.
-If you ever hear MJ talk (RABBI TAPES) he can speak clearly and get ideas out without the use for too many filler words...like um and ahh and chooses complex words and phrases to convey a thought...this fake MJ is not on the same intelligence level when it comes to speaking and uses many many filler words and is unable to use any complex words.
-This person does not talk about anything that can not be found in Moonwalk, Magic and the Madness, and a few published interviews....NOTHING...
-Didn't MJ tell Oprah that what men and woman do together is private? Has anyone come forward saying MJ told them what he did with girls? We heard the funny remark from MJ himself about woman and his fans, but never what he did with so and so...has anyone besides Glenda ever said MJ told them his bedroom secrets. When you have that belief, that ingrained belief, and especially when it stems from a religious back ground, you don't just all of a sudden start talking about it.
To each their own, if you all wanna believe this is MJ...a woman...an UNCLASSY woman at that, who can't pronounce where the heck she is supposed to go, and who can't talk consistently with MJ's accent and key words are NEVER pronounced the way MJ pronounces them...then go ahead...there is MUCH more juicy stuff to read and hear in Rabbi Tapes and we know those are true...what he said about Madonna! Holy cow!
Thank you for sharing your opinion and for explaining so clearly why. Call me dumb but I still haven't made up my mind about these tapes which is why I started the thread...
You can be yourself with friends, but when you are doing interviews on tv you would want to look/act decent and nice.
Do we know Michael personally?
I dont know him..maybe he is cursing like hell sometimes <!-- s:twisted: -->:twisted:<!-- s:twisted: --> or he likes to tell dirty jokes <!-- s --><!-- s -->
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now compare to this...He cant even say KIRCHEN! A place he's been to a thousand times! I've heard him say it before.
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The Best EXAMPLE... When MJ says words like Old, and Told...he does not pronounce the L in the word. The word becomes "told=toad" "old =oad" This is unique with the Jacksons an many others from similar backgrounds as MJ...you can here this on Rabbi tapes...the correct way MJ says it and on the Glenda tapes...he says the L very clearly...listen
Rabbi tape I posted look at 5:40 for the word "old"
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Glenda tapes I posted look at 3:59 for the word "told"
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and here at :25 is the word "told"
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and here is the word "told" at 2:11
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So, in Rabbi tapes its "old=oad, told=toad" and in Glenda tapes...it's "oLd and toLd"...not the same.
even the way MJ says the word "on" he makes the word into two syllables. On becomes "ow-en" here on the glenda tape look at 5:02
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compare that "on" to this one at 1:49
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happy listning.
I have listened to them time and time again and I think it is Michael
People sound VERY different on the phone than they do on live Tv or in a microphone or another tape recording. I like RS used some sort of special microphone so he could clearly hear every word of Michael. There was no sound system or anything like on tv it was just him at home when they were recorded and you can hear the kids in the background at times. Could they have been enhanced too? Well maybe.
The phone conversations sound more raw
I have to say some of you made some really good points however especially how Michael says certain words.
One filler word that comes to mind...MJ uses the filler word "Gee" alont...alot! Gee is very unique to MJ...In glenda tapes he NEVER says it.
the way MJ says the word "again" he says "ay-ghen"
here in ryan white tapes...also a phone call...look at :14 and at :30
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and here he says again at 9:56...not the same
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I would say it is him in the Glenda tapes
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PRICELESS!!
so now we know...
I always registered the unique way of Michael`s pronounciation (quite appealing to me, actually, haha!) but I never got the details as exactly as you pointed out here.
What stands out for me is how he pronounces the word "remember" ... never heard anything like that (since I am not a native speaker I am not familiar with all regional accents, though).
And yes, for me there`s no doubt that these Glenda tapes are fake. "Basement" at least should be convincing.
Good point, but I don't think that's a proof, to be honest. Maybe he meant that in a rather metaphorical way, or he wasn't even referring to Jackson Street. I don't know. I just really think it sounds like Michael, and I really don't know why somebody would fake this. There's not much "dynamite stuff" on there as supposedly was, in my opinion, so why take the time to fake this? I have to admit, though... The first time I listened to those tapes, I kinda doubted it was Michael, because I'd been wanting to hear this for ages and thought it would sound even more like Michael. (Does that make sense?) But I do think it sounds like him now, his voice is just really, really high-pitched here.
I would think that a house in Indiana would have a basement because it is a colder state and they get regular winters like Michigan or Wisconsin (I know since iam in Canada and we have them in almost 100% of the homes). So would it not have one for the furnace? OR was the entire home heated with a wood stove? I thought that the Jackson bungalow was built around the 40's sometime (or so i thought i read somewhere). Alot of even older farm houses have cellars or basements so are you sure this is not true???
Hmm, but how on earth were those tapes proven to be false?
I kinda have the feeling that I read something about the house having a basement or no basement, maybe in Katherine's book. I just flipped through the first parts, but couldn't find anything, but it might've been somewhere else. Can anybody remember something specific?