Deepak Chopra on LKL said MJ wanted a NDE!
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I don't know if this has been talked much about before.
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Sometimes I wonder if maybe Michael did try to achieve a momentary flat-line so that that he could literally claim to come back from the dead and not be lying. I know it would be a HUGE risk of actually dying. Remember the talk about Michael injecting and killing himself. And the euphemism of wanting sleep, for wanting death. Also the hospital UCLA was known as one that brought people back from the dead.
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Sometimes I wonder if maybe Michael did try to achieve a momentary flat-line so that that he could literally claim to come back from the dead and not be lying. I know it would be a HUGE risk of actually dying. Remember the talk about Michael injecting and killing himself. And the euphemism of wanting sleep, for wanting death. Also the hospital UCLA was known as one that brought people back from the dead.
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I mentioned the UCLA story about `Raising the Dead`in this video at about 8:35.
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The story was on msnbc.com but since has been removed. I screen shotted it though.
http://s778.photobucket.com/albums/yy67/droopinghalo/?action=view¤t=Hospital.jpg
and another story that was in the news just after Michael`s supposed passing
http://i778.photobucket.com/albums/yy67/droopinghalo/mansurvives.jpg
I'm sure that Michael was interested in the subject of real NDEs. It's fascinating to watch yourself (your body) from above. The soul is something very intriguing and nobody comprehended its mistery till now. One thing is sure it's that we'll all face death one day ( <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D --> ).
There's even The Monroe Institute in Cali that helps with this. There's no way he wouldn't know about it if he was interested in the subject.
That's a really good point. I wouldn't be surprise if he has gone through an astral projection before without even realizing it hence why he asked Andre Crouch about that. And like Sarahli said, it could also be a metaphor for a hoax death. Great points guys.
much like having yourself put to sleep on a regular basis <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
- and he achieved it! Michael always achieves what he plans! <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) -->
I'm quite sure that Deepak Chopra mentionned NDEs' experience on purpose, he knows something. I don't know if Michael would have gone far enough to live a real one, I highly doubt it and it's almost another subject cause to me it really seems like it's just a metaphor of the hoax death.
Thank you for saying this! MJ's questions to Rev. Crouch were in no way related to astral projection or anything else so crossways of Scripture (which MJ respects, loves and obeys). If the conversation went REMOTELY that way, MJ would have been warned against something so dangerous and demonic. This may sound off the wall to those who have NEVER heard it, but I'm not forcing it on you---just sharing.
The ONLY thing which gives a human being authority to act in the physical realm of earth, is the spirit within their BODY. When the real you, your spirit, leaves your body--(check out ANY dead one), you have NO will, no dreams, no hopes, no actions, NO INFLUENCE, NO authority upon ANY area of human life, including coming back into your own body! Demons, who have NEVER had authority in bodies like ours HATE us with a jealous rabid passion and have propagated this foul idea that it is harmless. <!-- s:shock: -->:shock:<!-- s:shock: -->
<!-- s:idea: -->:idea:<!-- s:idea: --> <!-- s:arrow: -->:arrow:<!-- s:arrow: --> Don't beLIEve it!
Michael Jackson would NEVER do anything involving a NDE or actually give up CONTROL of his volition and autonomy here,
for even one SECOND <!-- s:!: -->:!:<!-- s:!: -->
He LOVES his life and was humbled everyday by the wonder of life here. [P.S., MJ NEVER used Propofol or died or anything as foolhardy. He is alive. Don't believe things that are beneath his genius! ]
Chopra, and others, deceived by the familiar spirits connected to occult practices,are just as entitled to their views as anyone, but YOU need to THINK for yourself, and BE SAFE. THINK and be FREE.
NOTHING good comes from being outside your vehicle of DOMINION here!!!!!!!!!!
I believe if MJ suggested anything like this, it was misunderstood, and he CERTAINLY <!-- s:!: -->:!:<!-- s:!: --> was speaking FIGURATIVELY, <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) --> in HOAX-SPEAK, as some savvy folks have declared here. MJ is a TRUE poet; <!-- s8-) -->8-)<!-- s8-) --> we must ALWAYS take the borderline/double-meaning subjects, or "huh?" things he says with a mind to that, FIRST----especially during this hoax... Keep it in your mind that he could be discussing hoax-related gaming FICTION, and NOT true events of HIS actual physical self. The Genius doesn't always realize how far above others he speaks, and that he's "lost us (temporarily <!-- s --><!-- s --> ) at the bakery"...one reason he is so often misquoted and misunderstood.
Also, there is this: paramedics cannot revive EVERY ONE every time. Many many many people go straight to the cooler, after only a few minutes of life-saving effort, because they are obviously, irreversibly gone (the body has gone too far and is uninhabitable). Your spirit can become so frightened by seeing your "dead" body, that it is afraid to re-enter. Shock ruins the body.
It is arrogantly ungrateful, to throw your ticket to LIFE back to the Giver, and ASS/u/me that mere medical technology can get that back for you. Please don't play with this!
I too think that MJ has had (many) experiences with the Spirit of God which he has questions about (and Andrae Crouch can tell him all about it)! MJ is the most blessed man, ever! One thing nice about God, is that we don't HAVE to understand Him---he just wants us to befriend Him, and talk with Him everyday, including Him in our day. He told us in His word to CHOOSE LIFE. Never volunteer for, or accept the opposite <!-- s:!: -->:!:<!-- s:!: --> <!-- s:shock: -->:shock:<!-- s:shock: --> That's all... <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) --> Peace.
Yup, I know. <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D --> Totally agree! The fact that he discussed this with Andrae Crouch instead of someone else, tells me that MJ KNEW it was some kind of biblical experience, and not occult, and maybe wanted it to happen again. (I just get a teensy bit nuts when rumors endanger any young people here and invite them into a ditch!)
I knew you and I were in agreement. I thanked you for saying it, because people keep trying to discount how much the things of God are anchored in MJ's life. It sounds JUST LIKE the ever curious thinker, Michael Jackson, to seek to UNDERSTAND this---and reminded me of thinking that when this first appeared on A.C.'s website last June! He just gets sweeter and sweeter to me. <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) -->
Wow! That's interesting. I'm so fascinated with these things....do you care to share your experience? <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D --> If it's not too personal of course.
Peace!
Oh great. Thanks hun. Can't wait to read it! <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->
Absolutely correct and the precise reason Michael would not seek it out (NDE). He would never challenge God's authority and/or plan. I agree with the possibility that he may have been searching for answers to something that had already occured.
I would also love to hear your NDE, and wonder if possibly others would too. Is it too personal to post here, since that's the topic title?
The reason I thought of this thread, DC and the NDE conversation, was that I feel that exploring the what, who, why and where of this hoax is exploring everything regardless of seeming unlikeliness. I threw it out to gender discussion which it has done. Obviously we still have not cracked what happened in the Carolwood home or UCLA. I also don't think Michael held to a rigid strict thinking in his faith in God, but was pretty much walking as he felt led by God, so I don't think we should try to limit him. That saying, I don't think he did actually die but new information might come out of discussion.
Another interesting document surfaced quite a while back, and is now again being discussed somewhat on the Soule Shaun threads, showing Michael may have been "experimenting" with something physical. I know we can never put Michael Jackson in a box, no pun intended; he is the personification of unique.
SO...
HE HAVE IT! COME BACK, BABY! <!-- s:oops: -->:oops:<!-- s:oops: -->