TMP - Michael and the Movies - Godspell
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This is the First chapter of a new series by the Michealproject20 focusing exclusively on Michael Jackson's influence and involvement in Hollywood filmmaking during the past 40 years.
This thread specifically focuses on 1973 classic Godspell.
Parts 1 and 2 are posted below, other parts will be posted when available:
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As usual I found the videos very interesting, well made and full of very relevant information. I specifically made note of the following (But there is much more!):
- The film director is called David Greene. David Greene also directed the 1962 Twilight zone film and the 1975 Count of Monte Cristo films (Refer to V for Vendetta).
- There are many references to Vaudeville Schtick in the Godspell movie. This is not only a reference to the muppet show (Who have got their own Dodo by the way!) but also to a form of theatrical entertainment played at Vaudeville venues such as the Pantages theatres. (Hollywood tonight video)
http://muppet.wikia.com/wiki/Vaudeville
-The History of Bethesda Terrace in Central Park, a place frequently shown in Godspell and the parallels with Michael's This is it. We know how often the water symbolism comes back in Michael's work.
The Reference to Bethesda Terrace in the Gospel of John: http://www.domini.org/gospels/john/john05.htm
With L.O.V.E
This thread specifically focuses on 1973 classic Godspell.
Parts 1 and 2 are posted below, other parts will be posted when available:
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As usual I found the videos very interesting, well made and full of very relevant information. I specifically made note of the following (But there is much more!):
- The film director is called David Greene. David Greene also directed the 1962 Twilight zone film and the 1975 Count of Monte Cristo films (Refer to V for Vendetta).
- There are many references to Vaudeville Schtick in the Godspell movie. This is not only a reference to the muppet show (Who have got their own Dodo by the way!) but also to a form of theatrical entertainment played at Vaudeville venues such as the Pantages theatres. (Hollywood tonight video)
http://muppet.wikia.com/wiki/Vaudeville
-The History of Bethesda Terrace in Central Park, a place frequently shown in Godspell and the parallels with Michael's This is it. We know how often the water symbolism comes back in Michael's work.
The Reference to Bethesda Terrace in the Gospel of John: http://www.domini.org/gospels/john/john05.htm
With L.O.V.E
Comments
Godspell does seem to have some Michael flavor to it <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D --> I noticed that it began it's off Broadway run at The Cherry Lane Theatre and then moved to the larger Promenade Theatre in New York City.
The Promenade Theatre is an Off-Broadway theater, which is actually located on 2162 Broadway, and was renovated from a Mormon church.
This reminded me of the TMZ article about MJ's latest video being produced for Hollywood Tonight...in front of the Pantages Theatre. The Pantages Theatre, formerly known as RKO Pantages Theatre, is located at Hollywood and Vine (6233 Hollywood Boulevard), Hollywood, California, in the United States of America.
The Pantages Theatre Circuit had been built on Vaudeville, and the new Hollywood theatre programmed first-run movies alternating through the day with Vaudeville acts for its first two years. But like other theatres during the Great Depression, it was forced to economize and thereafter operated primarily as a movie theatre, though live entertainment was presented occasionally.
Pantages sold the Hollywood landmark in 1932 to Fox West Coast Theaters. In 1949, Howard Hughes acquired the Pantages under his RKO Theatre Circuit and moved his personal offices to the building's second floor.
Past productions that have graced the Pantages (as part of Broadway in L.A.) have included: Peter Pan and The Wizard of Oz. There are numerous others but these of course jumped out at me.
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It's late and I will have to look into this more, but I found the theatre connection intriguing, and of course the Howard Hughes link is just another coincidence I'm sure <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
Blessed to have been,
Touched By An Angel
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It is taken from a distance but the 7 big stars jump right out at ya! Also when P P and B were on the Good Morning America show with grandma today, Paris said she wants to try out for a play. Plays are usually in theaters (I know she said school play, but still) IDK, thought I'd share.
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TMP Writes" The continuation of Michael's connection and influence of this classic film. Also a revelation of why you are definitely witnessing a hoax and how Errol Flynn plays a major role in it."
1. Michael and the Movies: Godspell pt 3 Intro
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2. Michael and the Movies: Godspell pt 3 Conclusion
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Some very interesting parallels with Errol Flynn that build on the previous series of videos:
http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=250&t=17478
The positioning of Canada (Vancouver/Toronto) as an alternative to Hollywood opens new perspectives!
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Did the Muppets have a dodo? I can only remember a bald eagle, his name was Sam if memory serves but it was a very long time ago so maybe I'm wrong. Was there a dodo too? Had too much coffee this morning, methinks, my mind's in overdrive thinking about all the Muppets characters now LOL <!-- s --><!-- s --> <!-- s --><!-- s --> <!-- s --><!-- s -->
A Dodo made some guest appearances in the muppets show:
Reference: http://muppet.wikia.com/wiki/The_Dodo
All nicely connected! <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) -->
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My Pleasure Trustno1! <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->
The Dodo shares a quiet beach with Macca in Mauritius (Treasure Island) and would most probably get an invite to Lamb Island if too many celebrities decided to "escape the Game" and move to Treasure Island.
1. Lamb Island
Uri Geller purchased Lamb Island in Scotland in late 2008/2009. He said he hoped to win permission to search for the Egyptian treasure which he believes could be buried there. His theory is that Princess Scota, the sister of Tutankhamen, was exiled there after fleeing Egypt 3,000 years ago, and she may have left gold and jewels behind.
2. Escaping the Game
Lindsay Lohan is to help celebrities fake their own death in upcoming film.
We may also have to be sent to an Island to escape the Game! <!-- s --><!-- s -->
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Captain Blood - Start at 7:45 on the video
Captain Blood: "It is entirely innocent I am"
Court Spokesman: "Are you guilty or not guilty, you must use the right words"
Captain Blood: "Words is it? Oh! Not Guilty"
Conrad Murray - start at 10:15 on the video
Conrad Murray: "Your Honour, I am an innocent man, I therefore plead not guilty"
Errol Flynn seems to have been a great source of inspiration for Michael!
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Another excellent and thought-provoking video in the TMP's Godspell series:
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TMP20: "In this part, the focus continues on Errol Flynn's influence on Michael and the classic 1973 film 'Godspell' and how the legend of Robin Hood, one of Flynn's greatest roles set the stage for the 'hero' persona for both men and women."
The "Robin" connection was interesting:
- Robin Roberts is shown interviewing Janet in the video but she is also the one who interviewed Katherine and Michael's Children on GMA. (And lately led to Chris Brown breaking a window! )
- Conrad Murray is also a "Robin" as he is Conrad Robert Murray
- The Rockin' Robin song has some interesting connections. It was first sang by Bobby Day (Not to be confused with Robert Day <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) --> ) in 1958 and by Paul Anka in 2005. It was Michael first single.
Reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rockin'_Robin_(song)
The Thriller connection with the thriller "He knows you're alone" (Edgar Lansbury directed it - Same director as Godspell) was an eye opener! Also an inspiration for "You are not alone"!
Reference: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0080850/
I also really liked the Canadian connection in the previous video and with Janet very recently signing a film deal with Lionsgate entertainment, a company formed in Vancouver, the connection does continue! I even wondered when watching the video whether the O2 announcement may have been filmed in Canada rather than London! Who knows!
Reference: http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/janet-jackson-signs-film-production-167872
Reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lionsgate_Entertainment
Food for thoughts!
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I think that the "robin" might also correlate to Michael in a spiritual way. I first wanted to understand what the symbology of the "robin" is:
It's hard to tell them what I feel for you.
They haven't ever met you,
and no one has your picture.
So how can they ever understand your mystery?
Let's give them a clue:
Two birds sit in a tree.
One eats cherries, while the other looks on.
Two birds fly through the air.
One's song drops like crystal from the sky while the other keeps silent.
Two birds wheel in the sun.
One catches the light on its silver feathers, while the other spreads wings of invisibility.
It's easy to guess which bird I am,
but they'll never find you. Unless.....
Unless they already know a love that never interferes,
that watches from beyond,
that breathes free in the invisible air.
Sweet bird, my soul, your silence is so precious.
How long will it be before the world hears your song in mind?
Oh, that is a day I hunger for!
This poem got me to think about the book "The Soul Bird" by Michal Snunit:
I can now see why there will always be one robin there for Michael!
The Robin is the soul bird, it is part of Michael, it is Michael's soul and it is his opening to the spiritual World.
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Also, on the movie of the island and escaping the game, reminds me of the science fiction movie 2005, The Island, which I enjoyed. The truth may be stranger than fiction. Who knows what the real truth is, and we see only glimpses.
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Do U see the GREEN MAN? (Michael and the Movies -- Godspell pt 4). TMP20 asks this question in the video. It is in reference to a certain mystery actor who appears in the 1973 film Godspell.
Errol Flynn was born June 20, 1909 and died October 14, 1959. He was 50 years old. The actor that TMP points out in the video bears a strong resemblance to an older Errol Flynn. The film, however, was shot in 1972. The Godspell film was released 13 years after Errol's death. Did Errol Flynn fake his death?
Green Man -- "...a sculpture, drawing, or other representation of a face surrounded by or made from leaves. Branches or vines may sprout from the nose, mouth, nostrils or other parts of the face and these shoots may bear flowers or fruit...primarily it is interpreted as a symbol of rebirth, or 'renaissance', representing the cycle of growth each spring." The characters of Robin Hood (Errol) AND Peter Pan (Michael), are attributed to Green Man mythology. (<!-- m -->http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Man<!-- m -->)
Robin bird) -- "...understands the power of song, happiness, and guides in the wisdom of change, growth, renewal" (<!-- m -->http://www.shamanicjourney.com/article/ ... nd-renewal<!-- m -->).
Green Man (masculine) + Robin = the wisdom (feminine). Green Man is the physical embodiment of the new growth and is coupled with the spiritual "wisdom" of the "soul bird" (Thankyou,TheRunningGirl!). When they operate TOGETHER there is BALANCE. Yin and Yang. Alpha and Omega.
That said, I'm going to leave this link that describes the concept of christosophia. It's a lot of information, but if you choose to read through it, I would start at the beginning for it to make the most sense:
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I'd welcome any thoughts and feedback.
Two lives filled with great adventure. I think that one of the major differences between Errol and Michael's lives may be about having THE BALANCE. Flynn allowed the system to break him, Michael did not.
The ChristoSophia website makes a fascinating reading into the meaning of the DIVINE FEMININE! It brings together a lot of the spiritual concepts I had read about in relations to 2012 and increased consciousness but was unable to "rationalise". I have summarised below some key messages from the ChristoSophia website.
1. Who is Sophia
2. Sophia in Religion
3. The Divine Feminine & Green Man
4. Why Change is needed
To conclude, I think that the Green Man and Goddess messages have been coming through, repetitively over the last 21 months of this Hoax and I believe that "recreating" the Divine Feminine in our consciousness to bring Love and wisdom back into the World is part of Michael's message. As you suggested mjintrigue2012, this "balance within", may have enabled Michael to succeed where Errol Flynn failed. He saw the LIGHT!!!
There may also be an interesting inside on "Divine Feminine" in Godspell through the role of Mary Magdalene.
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This chapter focuses and reveals the connecting element that joins Michael Jackson, Errol Flynn and Godspell together....a talented, but obscure actor named "Merrell Jackson" who mysteriously died in 1991. TMP20
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This latest video is AMAZING!
As a bonus there was a nice reminder of Russell Crowe "connection" with Michael (Who is Michael not connected to!!!!)... in addition to the Errol Flynn, Godspell and Michael connections!
I really do not know where TMP gets it all from, it is MYSTERY at its best! I guess Michael's quote "Just because it's in print doesn't mean it is the GOdSPELl" does make even more sense now!
The Merrell Jackson connection is really amazing, you need to watch it to believe it!
Michael + Errol + Marelle = Merrell
Merrell Jackson died on February 23rd 1991 at the age of 39 and his death remains a MYSTERY!
It left me with a feeling that the TII LIGHT MAN may have a very special meaning indeed!
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TMP20 writes: "In this last chapter, some final points and revelations and an explanation as to why this film is so important in connection to Michael Jackson and what it's ultimate message is."
TMP writes: "A gift today...you've earned THIS one! You can now get a look behind the curtain and see a glimpse of just how the Wizard's mind works! Enjoy!" <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) -->
For those that who may not be familiar with TMP20 on YouTube, he is also Dmovie27 on Twitter. These last two videos were preceded by this tweet:
Dmovie27 Doug
These last two installments on the Godspell series are dedicated to Paris Jackson. #HappyBirthdayParis
4 hours ago
Hi! MJonmind
Tweet! Tweet! Tweet! <!-- s --><!-- s -->
Jermjackson5Jermaine Jackson
Marlon_Jackson is NOT my bro. And I quote him: "I've never tweeted except for when I sang "Rockin' Robin'" ... tweet, tweet, twiddly-dee
Tweeted on 6th April 2011
The Robin is Michael's friend! <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
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Michael was seen climbing on the Giving Tree in the Bashir interview. TMP20 also did a series on the Bashir interviews : TMP- The Bashir code which can be found in the Hoax videos on this forum or directly on his channel.
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Maybe Michael is the one who TWEETed as Marlon! tweet, tweet, twiddly-dee!
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