Thank you so much farhatmjj for all your efforts and dedication! God bless you!
Moreover, someone mentioned before Lisa's handwriting. I couldn't find any sample on the Internet, so if any of you has a picture of her hand notes, I believe it would be highly relevant to this demonstration.
In addition, to sustain this theory of Michael's handwriting on the thank you note, I found a perfect resemblance on the letter "L" from "Lots" with the "L" from "Live", visible in the attached note written by Michael, regarding his reasons for separation (first row, last word on the right).
was this thank you note supposedly written after his "death"? I don't understand the situation about the handwriting here and why its a big deal <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? -->
ok, i'm not sure if i should post it here but i found it on the other forum. all credit goes to Biscuit from the MJHD.net forum. here's what she wrote on Jun 07, 2010 :
Farhatmjj, just one thing. How can we be sure of Simone's credentials? I mean, this is awesome news, but before I get my hopes up really high, I think it's worth considering the credibility of this graphologist in order to remain objective.
I am certainly not a hand writing expert, but I found more inconsistencies than similarities.
While my comparison was only done based on the "flower note" & the first letter presented, it was quite inconsistent IMO.
I did my comparison based mainly on words that were written versus printed.
The "o" in the "flower letter" was not the same as the "o" in MJ's. MJ tends to make the "o" & then extend a line from the "o" to the right. He does this irregardless of whether or not a letter is going to follow the "o".
The "f" was looped versus the other letter which was not.
The "r" was squared in MJ's letter. It was not done in the "flower letter".
I also did not find the "s" matched.
I believe I have a link saved where there are many of MJ's hand written letters for comparison as well.
I am certainly not a hand writing expert, but I found more inconsistencies than similarities.
While my comparison was only done based on the "flower note" & the first letter presented, it was quite inconsistent IMO.
I did my comparison based mainly on words that were written versus printed.
The "o" in the "flower letter" was not the same as the "o" in MJ's. MJ tends to make the "o" & then extend a line from the "o" to the right. He does this irregardless of whether or not a letter is going to follow the "o".
The "f" was looped versus the other letter which was not.
The "r" was squared in MJ's letter. It was not done in the "flower letter".
But that's the thing, an expert is saying that it's his writing!
I also did not find the "s" matched.
I believe I have a link saved where there are many of MJ's hand written letters for comparison as well.
That's the point- an expert said it's MJ's writing!
was this thank you note supposedly written after his "death"? I don't understand the situation about the handwriting here and why its a big deal <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? -->
the "Thank you " card is supposed to be written by Lisa Marie. She sent some flowers and this card to the "sunflower guy" that offered sunflowers for Michael's grave few weeks ago.
We really think this card could have been written by MJ and we are comparing writtings.
A graphologist made a study (she's been paid and she didn't know it was MJ's Writting) and she said it was same writting on both "thank you card written by LMP" and other paper written by MJ.
So we think MJ could have wrote this card, supposedly sent by LMP.
And yes... this is huge. The word "patience" alone is a huge thing! <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
No it's not the same topic... This one is talking about the card LMP wrote to the sunflower guy.
The other one is talking about a card that says "I love you more MJ Patience"
And yes... this is huge. The word "patience" alone is a huge thing! <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
No it's not the same topic... This one is talking about the card LMP wrote to the sunflower guy.
The other one is talking about a card that says "I love you more MJ Patience"
The LMP card says "Thank fou for the Flowers..."
Not the same topic ^^
OOOOHHHHHH!!! Thank you!!! Sorry about that - now I confused everyone <!-- s --><!-- s -->
PinkTopaz: lol, I was just clowning around one night thinking about Michael liking KFC and then with all the Sunflower subject matter I just put the banner together <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->
was this thank you note supposedly written after his "death"? I don't understand the situation about the handwriting here and why its a big deal <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? -->
the "Thank you " card is supposed to be written by Lisa Marie. She sent some flowers and this card to the "sunflower guy" that offered sunflowers for Michael's grave few weeks ago.
We really think this card could have been written by MJ and we are comparing writtings.
A graphologist made a study (she's been paid and she didn't know it was MJ's Writting) and she said it was same writting on both "thank you card written by LMP" and other paper written by MJ.
So we think MJ could have wrote this card, supposedly sent by LMP.
Thank you so much for explaining this WOW just from writings that I have seen and Im no expert- it does look like Michaels. so that means he must still be in the states?
I think leaving US, and showing himself at airport would be dangerous for someone that wants to hide. I mean when you leave a country, or enter a country you need papers, no ?
Anyway, you cannot be best hidden than near the place you usually live, caus eyou know the place, you know how to stay hidden, you have friends and family to help you. It's easier than staying alone in a foreing country.
Thank you so much farhatmjj for all your efforts and dedication! God bless you!
Moreover, someone mentioned before Lisa's handwriting. I couldn't find any sample on the Internet, so if any of you has a picture of her hand notes, I believe it would be highly relevant to this demonstration.
In addition, to sustain this theory of Michael's handwriting on the thank you note, I found a perfect resemblance on the letter "L" from "Lots" with the "L" from "Live", visible in the attached note written by Michael, regarding his reasons for separation (first row, last word on the right).
What are the odds for coincidences?
LOVE,
Andy
first, it was done by Biscuit from teh other forum, i just posted it on here. so the effort is hers. but you're very welcome! God bless you too. <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) --> this is LMP's handwriting supposedly :
thanks for the other photo, the L looks really the same!
was this thank you note supposedly written after his "death"? I don't understand the situation about the handwriting here and why its a big deal <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? -->
yes it was written after his "death". i should have stated that in the post. i just edited and included the link. <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) -->
I am certainly not a hand writing expert, but I found more inconsistencies than similarities.
While my comparison was only done based on the "flower note" & the first letter presented, it was quite inconsistent IMO.
I did my comparison based mainly on words that were written versus printed.
The "o" in the "flower letter" was not the same as the "o" in MJ's. MJ tends to make the "o" & then extend a line from the "o" to the right. He does this irregardless of whether or not a letter is going to follow the "o".
The "f" was looped versus the other letter which was not.
The "r" was squared in MJ's letter. It was not done in the "flower letter".
But that's the thing, an expert is saying that it's his writing!
I also did not find the "s" matched.
I believe I have a link saved where there are many of MJ's hand written letters for comparison as well.
That's the point- an expert said it's MJ's writing!
exactly. an EXPERT confirmed it's the same handwriting and i also agree with that. it's obvious it wouldn't be all the same, as someone above said he would have "disguised" his handwriting too.
I think leaving US, and showing himself at airport would be dangerous for someone that wants to hide. I mean when you leave a country, or enter a country you need papers, no ?
Anyway, you cannot be best hidden than near the place you usually live, caus eyou know the place, you know how to stay hidden, you have friends and family to help you. It's easier than staying alone in a foreing country.
i always believed he was in the US only. because of the same reasons you stated. <!-- s8-) -->8-)<!-- s8-) -->
I think leaving US, and showing himself at airport would be dangerous for someone that wants to hide. I mean when you leave a country, or enter a country you need papers, no ?
Anyway, you cannot be best hidden than near the place you usually live, caus eyou know the place, you know how to stay hidden, you have friends and family to help you. It's easier than staying alone in a foreing country.
Usually what you are looking for is right under your nose!
I dont believe that was LMPs handswriting, as it doesnt look like any of her pasts examples that i could find.
Hmmm.. right... ok.. speechless...
Me too. This sums it up really well. Thank you for paying to have the handwriting analyzed!
Thanks from me also!!!
Yes, Thank you very very much..I don't know what to say right now... So I think this is a real proof? I mean can anyone fake that handwriting so perfectly? And if why sign it with LMP? This made my day ( it sucked until now <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->)
I dont believe that was LMPs handswriting, as it doesnt look like any of her pasts examples that i could find.
Hmmm.. right... ok.. speechless...
Me too. This sums it up really well. Thank you for paying to have the handwriting analyzed!
Thanks from me also!!!
Yes, Thank you very very much..I don't know what to say right now... So I think this is a real proof? I mean can anyone fake that handwriting so perfectly? And if why sign it with LMP? This made my day ( it sucked until now <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->)
haha i believe it's a real proof! i was comparing the handwritings by myself, with as much letters as possible. and i have to agree this IS Michael's handwriting. <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) -->
an expert already said it's the same hand writing but i'd still like to share my own analysis i started few days ago. here it is :
the "h" in the "how", "the" and "earth" in the 1 st letter match completely with the "h" in the "thank", "much" in the 2nd letter (thank you note).
the "e'' in the "because", "earth", "love", "people" in the 1st letter match completely with the "e"s in "the" and "love" in the "thank you" note.
the "thank" and the "love" in both the letters are the same.
the "s" in the "just" in the 1st letter and the "s" in the "so" in the 2nd letter match too.
the "d" in the "child" in the 1st letter and the "d" in the "donating" in the 2nd letter match, a li'l different but not totally different. the person was certainly trying to "disguise" their handwriting.
same thing with the "m" in the reminds" and the "managed" in the 1st letter that quite match with the "m" in the "much" in the 2nd letter.
the "f" in the "for" in the 1st letter match with the "f" in the "for" in the 2nd letter.
the "o" in the "concieve" in the 1st letter matches with the "o" in the "so" in the 2nd letter without a doubt.
i'm certain the handwritings are of the same person, no doubt on that. and a handwriting expert has even confirmed the fact.
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Moreover, someone mentioned before Lisa's handwriting. I couldn't find any sample on the Internet, so if any of you has a picture of her hand notes, I believe it would be highly relevant to this demonstration.
In addition, to sustain this theory of Michael's handwriting on the thank you note, I found a perfect resemblance on the letter "L" from "Lots" with the "L" from "Live", visible in the attached note written by Michael, regarding his reasons for separation (first row, last word on the right).
What are the odds for coincidences?
LOVE,
Andy
Farhatmjj, just one thing. How can we be sure of Simone's credentials? I mean, this is awesome news, but before I get my hopes up really high, I think it's worth considering the credibility of this graphologist in order to remain objective.
read from pg 15 on...its a long one, but theyre there...
Thank you.
While my comparison was only done based on the "flower note" & the first letter presented, it was quite inconsistent IMO.
I did my comparison based mainly on words that were written versus printed.
The "o" in the "flower letter" was not the same as the "o" in MJ's. MJ tends to make the "o" & then extend a line from the "o" to the right. He does this irregardless of whether or not a letter is going to follow the "o".
The "f" was looped versus the other letter which was not.
The "r" was squared in MJ's letter. It was not done in the "flower letter".
I also did not find the "s" matched.
I believe I have a link saved where there are many of MJ's hand written letters for comparison as well.
the "Thank you " card is supposed to be written by Lisa Marie. She sent some flowers and this card to the "sunflower guy" that offered sunflowers for Michael's grave few weeks ago.
We really think this card could have been written by MJ and we are comparing writtings.
A graphologist made a study (she's been paid and she didn't know it was MJ's Writting) and she said it was same writting on both "thank you card written by LMP" and other paper written by MJ.
So we think MJ could have wrote this card, supposedly sent by LMP.
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And yes... this is huge. The word "patience" alone is a huge thing! <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
No it's not the same topic... This one is talking about the card LMP wrote to the sunflower guy.
The other one is talking about a card that says "I love you more MJ Patience"
The LMP card says "Thank fou for the Flowers..."
Not the same topic ^^
OOOOHHHHHH!!! Thank you!!! Sorry about that - now I confused everyone <!-- s
IMHO, the writing looks the same on both notes.
Thank you so much for explaining this
Anyway, you cannot be best hidden than near the place you usually live, caus eyou know the place, you know how to stay hidden, you have friends and family to help you. It's easier than staying alone in a foreing country.
first, it was done by Biscuit from teh other forum, i just posted it on here. so the effort is hers. but you're very welcome! God bless you too. <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) --> this is LMP's handwriting supposedly :
thanks for the other photo, the L looks really the same!
yes it was written after his "death". i should have stated that in the post. i just edited and included the link. <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) -->
thanks from me too. <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) -->
exactly. an EXPERT confirmed it's the same handwriting and i also agree with that. it's obvious it wouldn't be all the same, as someone above said he would have "disguised" his handwriting too.
i always believed he was in the US only. because of the same reasons you stated. <!-- s8-) -->8-)<!-- s8-) -->
Usually what you are looking for is right under your nose!
Yes, Thank you very very much..I don't know what to say right now... So I think this is a real proof? I mean can anyone fake that handwriting so perfectly? And if why sign it with LMP? This made my day ( it sucked until now <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->)
the "h" in the "how", "the" and "earth" in the 1 st letter match completely with the "h" in the "thank", "much" in the 2nd letter (thank you note).
the "e'' in the "because", "earth", "love", "people" in the 1st letter match completely with the "e"s in "the" and "love" in the "thank you" note.
the "thank" and the "love" in both the letters are the same.
the "s" in the "just" in the 1st letter and the "s" in the "so" in the 2nd letter match too.
the "d" in the "child" in the 1st letter and the "d" in the "donating" in the 2nd letter match, a li'l different but not totally different. the person was certainly trying to "disguise" their handwriting.
same thing with the "m" in the reminds" and the "managed" in the 1st letter that quite match with the "m" in the "much" in the 2nd letter.
the "f" in the "for" in the 1st letter match with the "f" in the "for" in the 2nd letter.
the "o" in the "concieve" in the 1st letter matches with the "o" in the "so" in the 2nd letter without a doubt.
i'm certain the handwritings are of the same person, no doubt on that. and a handwriting expert has even confirmed the fact.
Maybe he signed it with LMP because LMP = Love Means Patience, hehe