The will has not been filed with the court

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Yesterday TMZ posted an article titled "One Year Later: Michael Jackson's Kids", you can find it here: <!-- m -->http://www.tmz.com/2010/06/25/michael-j ... et-prince/<!-- m -->

Here is a screenshot of page 6 of that photo gallery:
willnotfiled.jpg

What stood out to me in this text was:

The will has not been filed with the court.

<!-- s:shock: -->:shock:<!-- s:shock: --> <!-- s:shock: -->:shock:<!-- s:shock: --> Not been filed..? So then what are these TMZ articles all about..?

Jackson's Dad Aced Out of Will
Originally posted Jun 30th 2009 3:34 AM PDT by TMZ Staff

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Michael Jackson signed a will in 2002 providing for his children and his mom, but leaving nothing to daddy Joe -- this according to the Wall Street Journal.

As we reported yesterday, attorney John Branca has the will and plans to file it with the court within 30 days of the singer's death. According to the will, Jackson reportedly left his estate -- estimated at $1 billion -- to his mother, three children and one or more charities.

As for why Joe was left out -- Jackson has said during his childhood his father beat him.

<!-- m -->http://www.tmz.com/2009/06/30/jacksons- ... t-of-will/<!-- m -->
Michael's Will Handed Over to Jackson Family
Originally posted Jun 30th 2009 1:31 PM PDT by TMZ Staff

0630_mj_bn_tmz_03-1.jpg

A copy of Michael Jackson's will has finally made it into the hands of the Jackson family.

The will -- which was being held by Michael's attorney John Branca -- reportedly leaves everything to Katherine Jackson, MJ's three kids and one or more charities ... and Joe Jackson gets nothing.

The Jackson family said the will is set to be filed in court.
<!-- m -->http://www.tmz.com/2009/06/30/michael-j ... to-family/<!-- m -->
Michael Jackson Will -- Filed Tomorrow
Originally posted Jun 30th 2009 5:53 PM PDT by TMZ Staff

0627_mj_getty_88693232_ex_3.jpg

Sources tell us Michael Jackson's will is going to be filed tomorrow in Los Angeles County Superior Court.

<!-- m -->http://www.tmz.com/2009/06/30/michael-j ... l-probate/<!-- m -->
Michael Jackson's Will
Originally posted Jul 1st 2009 8:17 AM PDT by TMZ Staff

0627_mj_getty_80024347_ex_2-1.jpg

We now know what's in Michael Jackson's will -- for starters, he never said where he wanted to be buried.

We've learned the will -- which will be filed today -- is 5 pages long. As for who gets what -- Jackson's entire estate goes to the Michael Jackson Family Trust. The trust documents are not included in the will and the contents of the trust remain confidential.

We're told the trust provides for Michael's children and mother, and distributes money to several charities.

<!-- m -->http://www.tmz.com/2009/07/01/michael-j ... ial-trust/<!-- m -->
Jackson's Last Will -- Diana Ross Mentioned
Originally posted Jul 1st 2009 9:10 AM PDT by TMZ Staff

Michael Jackson's will has been filed with the court. Jackson asks that his mother, Katherine, be made the guardian of all three of his kids. The will says if Katherine died before him or couldn't serve as guardian, he nominated Diana Ross.

And there's a petition filed along with the will, saying Jackson's estate is worth more than $500,000,000. The petition says almost all of the estate "consists of non-cash, non-liquid assets, including primarily an interest in a catalog of music royalty rights which is currently being administered by Sony/ATV, and interests in various entities."

0701_the_will_launch_ex.jpg
VIEW DOC: <!-- m -->http://www.aolcdn.com/tmz_documents/0701_mj_will_wm.pdf<!-- m -->

As we first reported, the will leaves everything to the Michael Jackson Family Trust, stating, "I give my entire estate to the Trustee or Trustees..."

The will has been misinterpreted in reports -- suggesting that Debbie Rowe was intentionally excluded. Jackson has even excluded his own children from getting property under the will. But all that means is that the trust he created will control the distribution of property.

The will declares that Jackson is not married.

The will names John Branca, John McClain and Barry Siegel as co-Executors. Branca was Jackson's lawyer, McClain is a music exec and Siegel was Jackson's accountant. But Siegel resigned from his role as executor in 2003.

Branca and McClain just released the following statement: "The most important element of Michael's will is his unwavering desire that his mother, Katherine, become the legal guardian for his three children."

<!-- m -->http://www.tmz.com/2009/07/01/michael-j ... mentioned/<!-- m -->
Michael Jackson Court Hearing
Originally posted Jul 1st 2009 10:47 AM PDT by TMZ Staff

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UPDATE: The judge in the case has ruled Katherine will remain as temporary administrator for the rest of the week. The judge said it wasn't urgent to change things up immediately -- that the matter will be heard Monday.

There's a hearing underway over Michael Jackson's will.

Here's the problem. On Monday, Katherine's lawyers got an order from the judge making Katherine the temporary administrator of her son's estate, based on her belief that no will existed.

Now that a will has been filed, the named executors want to make sure they have control over the assets and are asking the judge to nullify Katherine's power to move assets around -- even temporarily.

We're told there isn't a conflict between Katherine and the new executors -- it's just to button things up.

<!-- m -->http://www.tmz.com/2009/07/01/michael-j ... t-hearing/<!-- m -->
No Second Jackson Will
Originally posted Jul 1st 2009 6:45 PM PDT by TMZ Staff

mj5.jpg

There are all sorts of reports of a second Michael Jackson will -- we're told a second will does NOT exist.

We do know Jackson signed several wills prior to the one that was filed today in court. The will was signed in July, 2002 -- almost five months after Prince Michael Jackson II was born. We're told Jackson had wills before that but updated them after the birth of the third child.

The prior wills became null and void when Jackson signed the 2002 will.

<!-- m -->http://www.tmz.com/2009/07/01/no-second-jackson-will/<!-- m -->
Jackson Showdown in Court Today
Originally posted Jul 5th 2009 10:20 PM PDT by TMZ Staff

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Today we'll know if Katherine Jackson will fight over Michael Jackson's will -- or at least we'll know if her lawyer plans a fight.

We've learned lawyers for John Branca and John McClain -- the two men named co-executors in Michael Jackson's will -- will ask the judge to put them in charge of the estate, at least until the will is formally presented in court.

But here's the wild card -- last week, before the will was filed, Katherine Jackson's lawyer, Londell McMillan, went to court and got the judge to temporarily make Katherine the administrator of the estate. That power expires today.

The question -- will McMillan object to putting Branca and McClain in control of the estate? Jermaine Jackson has said he wants everyone to respect Michael's wishes. Sources tell us Jermaine's feelings are shared by the other siblings, but McMillan may have a different agenda. We're told many members of Michael's family are upset with McMillan and believe he's grandstanding. Lawyers for the named co-executors are bracing for a fight.

Ironically, the will names Katherine the guardian of Michael's children.

<!-- m -->http://www.tmz.com/2009/07/06/jackson-c ... ll-estate/<!-- m -->


Soooooo...now we learn that the will has NOT been filed with the court, which means that everything that has to do with decisions based on that will, which is not filed with the court, is bogus...bullshit...all smoke and mirrors...

Of course it´s all bullshit, because you can't file a will with the court of a person who is still very much alive and kicking. Smile..!
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Comments

  • Rita HayworthRita Hayworth Posts: 122
    MO - if the will has not been filed, does that mean that Branca et al are also in on this "hoax"? Is Michael then really making all of the financial decisions? I'm really confused now.
  • shelby61shelby61 Posts: 305
    Ha and without Letters Probate (registering the Will), you cannot carry on business transactions, transfer of land, etc. without Letters Probate or Letters of Administration, technically the Executors would be committing fraud if indeed the person was dead....however, we know better than that LOL....thank you for this update. I have been in law for 30 years and this all seemed too quick and easy for such a large estate. IF MJ was gone, his estate matters would be going on for years and his money would be tied up for years.

    Interesting that this information is getting printed after the 25th and maybe all our questions will be answered in due course through stories in the media. I kept telling people that the Will needs to be registered with the Court before the Executors can proceed to deal with the money and business of the estate.
  • HazzelyHazzely Posts: 1,443
    Ha and without Letters Probate (registering the Will), you cannot carry on business transactions, transfer of land, etc. without Letters Probate or Letters of Administration, technically the Executors would be committing fraud if indeed the person was dead....however, we know better than that LOL....thank you for this update. I have been in law for 30 years and this all seemed too quick and easy for such a large estate. IF MJ was gone, his estate matters would be going on for years and his money would be tied up for years.

    Interesting that this information is getting printed after the 25th and maybe all our questions will be answered in due course through stories in the media. I kept telling people that the Will needs to be registered with the Court before the Executors can proceed to deal with the money and business of the estate.

    And it won't be registered since Michael didn't write or sign that..

    Branca..I'm so in doubt.. What would his role in the hoax be? I DON'T THINK he's even involved. He did this to him behind his back and now the Jacksons are trying to revoke the will.

    I can't find any logic explanation other than that..
  • cin_pytcin_pyt Posts: 632
    What bothers me is this? Could Michael have been stripped of his money and these ppl took control and now he's somewhere living of whatever he has and waiting for the right moment to expose someone? I don't know it's rather strange Mrs. Katherine trying to sell a book and having money problems, so it seems she's not getting any $$$ only from her Social Security. Michael can be providing for the kids that's what I think. What's also weird I mean Joe and Katherine are Michael's parents they shouldn't have to ask permission to use their own son's name. The estate has everything controlled they can't touch a cent from that money. Michael perhaps escaped by planning a real thing the "overdose/murder" yeah and it's more than CM. That's why the family is helping him out he has to get his $$$ money back there were thieves around Mike and they're trying to get more and more $$$. Michael has to play dead really it's in his best interest the family knows and they're angry they want justice it's natural, the will isn't a valid.
  • simplymesimplyme Posts: 649
    MO - if the will has not been filed, does that mean that Branca et al are also in on this "hoax"? Is Michael then really making all of the financial decisions? I'm really confused now.

    The will was filed. The link MO posted is for events COVERING THE PAST YEAR which includes a time when the will had yet to be filed. Here is the link to the original story where that text is. It's dated June 30, 2009 which is about the same time that Mr. Branca came forward with a WILL he shouldn't have been in possesion of to begin with.

    <!-- m -->http://www.tmz.com/2009/06/30/michael-j ... l-custody/<!-- m -->
  • mjboogiemjboogie Posts: 1,067
    Ok my heart is racing and i am totally confused on this. So has the will been filed or no. The article featured in this thread from TMZ...what is the date that this article surfaced.Is there an EXACT way we can find out if the will has indeed been filed? Lawyers where are ya! <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) -->
  • Unknown
    MO - if the will has not been filed, does that mean that Branca et al are also in on this "hoax"? Is Michael then really making all of the financial decisions? I'm really confused now.

    The will was filed. The link MO posted is for events COVERING THE PAST YEAR which includes a time when the will had yet to be filed. Here is the link to the original story where that text is. It's dated June 30, 2009 which is about the same time that Mr. Branca came forward with a WILL he shouldn't have been in possesion of to begin with.

    <!-- m -->http://www.tmz.com/2009/06/30/michael-j ... l-custody/<!-- m -->

    I posted articles saying the will had yet to be filed and articles stating the will had been filed. Yesterday, on June 25th, TMZ states in the article "One Year Later: Michael Jackson's Kids" at <!-- m -->http://www.tmz.com/2010/06/25/michael-j ... et-prince/<!-- m --> that the will has NOT been filed.

    The article you refer to:
    willnotfiled2.jpg

    Compare the text to the article TMZ posted yesterday:
    willnotfiled.jpg


    They did not quote the June 30 article, except for the line "The will has not been files with the court". Yesterday's article was a retrospective view of what happened then and stating what did happen.

    In my opinion the line "The will has not been files with the court" was put in there again for the obvious reason.
  • CCCC Posts: 2,136
    IF THE WILL IS NOT FILED WITH THE COURT, THEN ALL THE BUSSINESS ARE NOT IN PROFIT OF SOMEONE DEAD BECAUSE THE WILL IS NOT FILLED??? LIKE THEY ARE REPRESENTING "ALIVE MJ", NOT THE "MJ DEAD"... SO THEY ARE NOT BREAKING LAW??? <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? -->
  • liegiliegi Posts: 640
    It's hard to disprove Mo!! Mo and Souza know what they're talking about.
  • hesouttamylifehesouttamylife Posts: 5,393
    So the will has NEVER been filed in court to date? In my mind that says Michael is not dead. But please clarify as sometimes my mind runs ahead of my eyes <!-- s:P -->:P<!-- s:P --> In that case the Trustees are acting on a power of attorney/client relationship, i.e. They are doing what is deemed best for their client, Michael Jackson entrusted by Michael Jackson during his period of incapacitation. Is this on the right track? I have no legal background so I'm just trying to use a bit of common sense. However, sometimes... <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: --> <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: --> Help me out.
  • scorpionchikscorpionchik Posts: 2,669
    if the article is from the July 5th,2009, the filing the will to court was in the process to get approved. Somebody should take the responsibility to manage finance and assets and Kathrine was temporary appointed as an administrator until court approval. I think that is the case. Or am I missing the point?
  • adventurelandadventureland Posts: 104
    Case Summary


    Case Number: BP117321
    JACKSON, MICHAEL JOSEPH - DECEDENT

    Filing Date: 06/29/2009

    07/01/2009 Prob Will-Ltrs Test/IAEA

    06/29/2009 Supplement (TO ATTACHMENT 3F(3) OF PETITION FOR LETTERS OF SPECIAL ADMIN. )
    Filed by Attorney for Petitioner

    06/29/2009 Letters of Administration/IAEA

    06/29/2009 Ord-Appt Special Admin/NO IAEA (BOND $500,000. )
    Filed by Attorney for Petitioner

    06/29/2009 Letters of Special Administration
  • ChristianaChristiana Posts: 626
    MO - if the will has not been filed, does that mean that Branca et al are also in on this "hoax"? Is Michael then really making all of the financial decisions? I'm really confused now.

    The will was filed[/b]. The link MO posted is for events COVERING THE PAST YEAR which includes a time when the will had yet to be filed. Here is the link to the original story where that text is. It's dated June 30, 2009 which is about the same time that Mr. Branca came forward with a WILL he shouldn't have been in possesion of to begin with.

    <!-- m -->http://www.tmz.com/2009/06/30/michael-j ... l-custody/<!-- m -->

    Totally agree with you. That image was just a snippet, one of many they posted reference the events of the last year. I don't see anything that suggests otherwise. Doesn't prove he's dead, IMO, but the will has, IMO, been filed.
  • InfinityladyInfinitylady Posts: 1,006

    Yesterday TMZ posted an article titled "One Year Later: Michael Jackson's Kids", you can find it here: <!-- m -->http://www.tmz.com/2010/06/25/michael-j ... et-prince/<!-- m -->

    Here is a screenshot of page 6 of that photo gallery:
    willnotfiled.jpg

    What stood out to me in this text was:

    The will has not been filed with the court.

    <!-- s:shock: -->:shock:<!-- s:shock: --> <!-- s:shock: -->:shock:<!-- s:shock: --> Not been filed..? So then what are these TMZ articles all about..?

    Jackson's Dad Aced Out of Will
    Originally posted Jun 30th 2009 3:34 AM PDT by TMZ Staff

    0627_mj_getty_88702030_bn-copy-1.jpg

    Michael Jackson signed a will in 2002 providing for his children and his mom, but leaving nothing to daddy Joe -- this according to the Wall Street Journal.

    As we reported yesterday, attorney John Branca has the will and plans to file it with the court within 30 days of the singer's death. According to the will, Jackson reportedly left his estate -- estimated at $1 billion -- to his mother, three children and one or more charities.

    As for why Joe was left out -- Jackson has said during his childhood his father beat him.

    <!-- m -->http://www.tmz.com/2009/06/30/jacksons- ... t-of-will/<!-- m -->
    Michael's Will Handed Over to Jackson Family
    Originally posted Jun 30th 2009 1:31 PM PDT by TMZ Staff

    0630_mj_bn_tmz_03-1.jpg

    A copy of Michael Jackson's will has finally made it into the hands of the Jackson family.

    The will -- which was being held by Michael's attorney John Branca -- reportedly leaves everything to Katherine Jackson, MJ's three kids and one or more charities ... and Joe Jackson gets nothing.

    The Jackson family said the will is set to be filed in court.
    <!-- m -->http://www.tmz.com/2009/06/30/michael-j ... to-family/<!-- m -->
    Michael Jackson Will -- Filed Tomorrow
    Originally posted Jun 30th 2009 5:53 PM PDT by TMZ Staff

    0627_mj_getty_88693232_ex_3.jpg

    Sources tell us Michael Jackson's will is going to be filed tomorrow in Los Angeles County Superior Court.

    <!-- m -->http://www.tmz.com/2009/06/30/michael-j ... l-probate/<!-- m -->
    Michael Jackson's Will
    Originally posted Jul 1st 2009 8:17 AM PDT by TMZ Staff

    0627_mj_getty_80024347_ex_2-1.jpg

    We now know what's in Michael Jackson's will -- for starters, he never said where he wanted to be buried.

    We've learned the will -- which will be filed today -- is 5 pages long. As for who gets what -- Jackson's entire estate goes to the Michael Jackson Family Trust. The trust documents are not included in the will and the contents of the trust remain confidential.

    We're told the trust provides for Michael's children and mother, and distributes money to several charities.

    <!-- m -->http://www.tmz.com/2009/07/01/michael-j ... ial-trust/<!-- m -->
    Jackson's Last Will -- Diana Ross Mentioned
    Originally posted Jul 1st 2009 9:10 AM PDT by TMZ Staff

    Michael Jackson's will has been filed with the court. Jackson asks that his mother, Katherine, be made the guardian of all three of his kids. The will says if Katherine died before him or couldn't serve as guardian, he nominated Diana Ross.

    And there's a petition filed along with the will, saying Jackson's estate is worth more than $500,000,000. The petition says almost all of the estate "consists of non-cash, non-liquid assets, including primarily an interest in a catalog of music royalty rights which is currently being administered by Sony/ATV, and interests in various entities."

    0701_the_will_launch_ex.jpg
    VIEW DOC: <!-- m -->http://www.aolcdn.com/tmz_documents/0701_mj_will_wm.pdf<!-- m -->

    As we first reported, the will leaves everything to the Michael Jackson Family Trust, stating, "I give my entire estate to the Trustee or Trustees..."

    The will has been misinterpreted in reports -- suggesting that Debbie Rowe was intentionally excluded. Jackson has even excluded his own children from getting property under the will. But all that means is that the trust he created will control the distribution of property.

    The will declares that Jackson is not married.

    The will names John Branca, John McClain and Barry Siegel as co-Executors. Branca was Jackson's lawyer, McClain is a music exec and Siegel was Jackson's accountant. But Siegel resigned from his role as executor in 2003.

    Branca and McClain just released the following statement: "The most important element of Michael's will is his unwavering desire that his mother, Katherine, become the legal guardian for his three children."

    <!-- m -->http://www.tmz.com/2009/07/01/michael-j ... mentioned/<!-- m -->
    Michael Jackson Court Hearing
    Originally posted Jul 1st 2009 10:47 AM PDT by TMZ Staff

    0627_mj_getty_88693232_bn.jpg

    UPDATE: The judge in the case has ruled Katherine will remain as temporary administrator for the rest of the week. The judge said it wasn't urgent to change things up immediately -- that the matter will be heard Monday.

    There's a hearing underway over Michael Jackson's will.

    Here's the problem. On Monday, Katherine's lawyers got an order from the judge making Katherine the temporary administrator of her son's estate, based on her belief that no will existed.

    Now that a will has been filed, the named executors want to make sure they have control over the assets and are asking the judge to nullify Katherine's power to move assets around -- even temporarily.

    We're told there isn't a conflict between Katherine and the new executors -- it's just to button things up.

    <!-- m -->http://www.tmz.com/2009/07/01/michael-j ... t-hearing/<!-- m -->
    No Second Jackson Will
    Originally posted Jul 1st 2009 6:45 PM PDT by TMZ Staff

    mj5.jpg

    There are all sorts of reports of a second Michael Jackson will -- we're told a second will does NOT exist.

    We do know Jackson signed several wills prior to the one that was filed today in court. The will was signed in July, 2002 -- almost five months after Prince Michael Jackson II was born. We're told Jackson had wills before that but updated them after the birth of the third child.

    The prior wills became null and void when Jackson signed the 2002 will.

    <!-- m -->http://www.tmz.com/2009/07/01/no-second-jackson-will/<!-- m -->
    Jackson Showdown in Court Today
    Originally posted Jul 5th 2009 10:20 PM PDT by TMZ Staff

    0626_michael_jackson_exd_11-1.jpg

    Today we'll know if Katherine Jackson will fight over Michael Jackson's will -- or at least we'll know if her lawyer plans a fight.

    We've learned lawyers for John Branca and John McClain -- the two men named co-executors in Michael Jackson's will -- will ask the judge to put them in charge of the estate, at least until the will is formally presented in court.

    But here's the wild card -- last week, before the will was filed, Katherine Jackson's lawyer, Londell McMillan, went to court and got the judge to temporarily make Katherine the administrator of the estate. That power expires today.

    The question -- will McMillan object to putting Branca and McClain in control of the estate? Jermaine Jackson has said he wants everyone to respect Michael's wishes. Sources tell us Jermaine's feelings are shared by the other siblings, but McMillan may have a different agenda. We're told many members of Michael's family are upset with McMillan and believe he's grandstanding. Lawyers for the named co-executors are bracing for a fight.

    Ironically, the will names Katherine the guardian of Michael's children.

    <!-- m -->http://www.tmz.com/2009/07/06/jackson-c ... ll-estate/<!-- m -->


    Soooooo...now we learn that the will has NOT been filed with the court, which means that everything that has to do with decisions based on that will, which is not filed with the court, is bogus...bullshit...all smoke and mirrors...

    Of course it´s all bullshit, because you can't file a will with the court of a person who is still very much alive and kicking. Smile..!

    WOW!!!
  • mjaliveomgmjaliveomg Posts: 178
    No Second Jackson Will
    Originally posted Jul 1st 2009 6:45 PM PDT by TMZ Staff

    mj5.jpg

    There are all sorts of reports of a second Michael Jackson will -- we're told a second will does NOT exist.

    We do know Jackson signed several wills prior to the one that was filed today in court. The will was signed in July, 2002 -- almost five months after Prince Michael Jackson II was born. We're told Jackson had wills before that but updated them after the birth of the third child.

    The prior wills became null and void when Jackson signed the 2002 will.

    <!-- m -->http://www.tmz.com/2009/07/01/no-second-jackson-will/<!-- m -->
    Jackson Showdown in Court Today
    Originally posted Jul 5th 2009 10:20 PM PDT by TMZ Staff

    0626_michael_jackson_exd_11-1.jpg

    Today we'll know if Katherine Jackson will fight over Michael Jackson's will -- or at least we'll know if her lawyer plans a fight.

    We've learned lawyers for John Branca and John McClain -- the two men named co-executors in Michael Jackson's will -- will ask the judge to put them in charge of the estate, at least until the will is formally presented in court.

    But here's the wild card -- last week, before the will was filed, Katherine Jackson's lawyer, Londell McMillan, went to court and got the judge to temporarily make Katherine the administrator of the estate. That power expires today.

    The question -- will McMillan object to putting Branca and McClain in control of the estate? Jermaine Jackson has said he wants everyone to respect Michael's wishes. Sources tell us Jermaine's feelings are shared by the other siblings, but McMillan may have a different agenda. We're told many members of Michael's family are upset with McMillan and believe he's grandstanding. Lawyers for the named co-executors are bracing for a fight.

    Ironically, the will names Katherine the guardian of Michael's children.

    <!-- m -->http://www.tmz.com/2009/07/06/jackson-c ... ll-estate/<!-- m -->

    this is offtopic i know, but take a look at this 2 pics of "mike"..sure its not the same person..the first is the 02 mj..look at his nose, chin.. <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? -->
    take a good look and compare both pics..
  • LonelynationLonelynation Posts: 277
    I'm sorry I'm really slow on the pick up.

    Has the will still not been filed, or are you saying that TMZ messed up their own timeline of when things went down?
  • teine21teine21 Posts: 898
    The text about the will is just put in there, that article is a recap of the past year & at one point when they discovered the will they didn't file it right away. So TMZ included it in their recap, that's all it is. Although I think they put it there on purpose because they knew something like this would happen, that people would go <!-- s:o -->:o<!-- s:o --> the will hasn't been filed?! When actually it has & like I said, this article is just a RECAP of events from June 25th 2009 until June 25th 2010.
  • simplymesimplyme Posts: 649
    MO - if the will has not been filed, does that mean that Branca et al are also in on this "hoax"? Is Michael then really making all of the financial decisions? I'm really confused now.

    The will was filed. The link MO posted is for events COVERING THE PAST YEAR which includes a time when the will had yet to be filed. Here is the link to the original story where that text is. It's dated June 30, 2009 which is about the same time that Mr. Branca came forward with a WILL he shouldn't have been in possesion of to begin with.

    <!-- m -->http://www.tmz.com/2009/06/30/michael-j ... l-custody/<!-- m -->

    I posted articles saying the will had yet to be filed and articles stating the will had been filed. Yesterday, on June 25th, TMZ states in the article "One Year Later: Michael Jackson's Kids" at <!-- m -->http://www.tmz.com/2010/06/25/michael-j ... et-prince/<!-- m --> that the will has NOT been filed.

    The article you refer to:
    willnotfiled2.jpg

    Compare the text to the article TMZ posted yesterday:
    willnotfiled.jpg


    They did not quote the June 30 article, except for the line "The will has not been files with the court". Yesterday's article was a retrospective view of what happened then and stating what did happen.

    In my opinion the line "The will has not been files with the court" was put in there again for the obvious reason.

    The text for the one of the children accepting the award is not identical either. It's still just a recap. I guess you believe it wasn't filed? In my opinion, that's ludicrous. But if this is the case we will agree to disagree and leave it at that.
  • Unknown
    MO - if the will has not been filed, does that mean that Branca et al are also in on this "hoax"? Is Michael then really making all of the financial decisions? I'm really confused now.

    The will was filed. The link MO posted is for events COVERING THE PAST YEAR which includes a time when the will had yet to be filed. Here is the link to the original story where that text is. It's dated June 30, 2009 which is about the same time that Mr. Branca came forward with a WILL he shouldn't have been in possesion of to begin with.

    <!-- m -->http://www.tmz.com/2009/06/30/michael-j ... l-custody/<!-- m -->

    I posted articles saying the will had yet to be filed and articles stating the will had been filed. Yesterday, on June 25th, TMZ states in the article "One Year Later: Michael Jackson's Kids" at <!-- m -->http://www.tmz.com/2010/06/25/michael-j ... et-prince/<!-- m --> that the will has NOT been filed.

    The article you refer to:
    willnotfiled2.jpg

    Compare the text to the article TMZ posted yesterday:
    willnotfiled.jpg


    They did not quote the June 30 article, except for the line "The will has not been files with the court". Yesterday's article was a retrospective view of what happened then and stating what did happen.

    In my opinion the line "The will has not been files with the court" was put in there again for the obvious reason.

    The text for the one of the children accepting the award is not identical either. It's still just a recap. I guess you believe it wasn't filed? In my opinion, that's ludicrous. But if this is the case we will agree to disagree and leave it at that.

    In my opinion - Had it been a complete recap, it would have said: At that time the will had not been filed with the court yet.
  • Unknown
    When it came to my grandfathers will, it was not properly filed in the courts since he had debts that needed to be payed off and he was in a legal battle with former doctors. You can't file a will for an estate when the estate's worth is dependent on legal factors that may arise.

    My two cents.
  • Unknown
    When it came to my grandfathers will, it was not properly filed in the courts since he had debts that needed to be payed off and he was in a legal battle with former doctors. You can't file a will for an estate when the estate's worth is dependent on legal factors that may arise.

    My two cents.

    Thank you for sharing UTisNUM1, that makes a lot of sense!

    The latest creditor's claim was filed on 06-22-2010. In an interview with ABC News on June 27 Howard Weitzman said:

    "Weitzman: A lot of claims we've been able to resolve because they were less than meritorious. Some claims were accepted and paid out. Others may end up at trial. I do expect more lawsuits to be filed in the future because Michael was and still is a big target."

    They still haven't sorted it all out, and it looks like it's going to take some time to sort it all out.

    Is there a lawyer among us who can shine some light on this subject..?
  • CCCC Posts: 2,136
    COULD BE "THE WILL" SOMETHING LIKE BANKRUPTCY FILING OF A COMPANY, CALL OF CREDITORS ??
    SOMETHING LIKE THAT???
    I ALWAYS THOUGHT THAT THE MICHAEL JACKSON STATE IS A COMPANY AND THE MICHAEL JACKSON NAME IS A TRADE MARK SO... I HAVE TO TALK WITH A FRIEND ABOUT THAT, SHE IS A LAWYER BUT I DON´T KNOW IF THE LAW IS THE SAME IN ALL THE COUNTRIES...
  • shelby61shelby61 Posts: 305
    I thought there was a dispute about the signing of the Will and the location but that sort of fell through the media cracks. If the family is disputing the validity of the Will, then the Executors cannot file the Will in Court because the Executors have to file an Affidavit with the Will swearing that this is the last will of testament of whoever....blah blah blah...so if there is a problem with it not being the correct Will, then it will not get filed, that is why in my opinion, they applied for letters of special administration, so they could proceed with the funeral, burial etc. while the validity of the Will gets settled. However, being that they are Executors, I don't know why they applied for Letters of Special Administration, unless the Will is in fact not the correct or the most recent Will. There was also the issue of the children that had to be settled and it was obvious that they do stay with Katherine (per the Will's wishes) and of course we know that the Will may not be the correct one, so again are the children with Katherine??

    The court did not appoint a neutral person, they appointed Branca who, in my opinion, is in direct conflict in alot of dealings with the Estate.


    A. LETTERS OF SPECIAL ADMINISTRATION

    Petitions for letters of special administration ordinarily will not be granted on less than 24 hours' notice to the surviving spouse or registered domestic partner, to the nominated personal representative, or to any other person who, in the opinion of the Court, appears to be entitled to notice. In making the appointment, preference is given to the person entitled to letters testamentary or of administration, but if it appears that a bona fide contest exists between these persons, the Court will usually appoint a neutral person or corporation as special administrator. The petitioning party is advised to ascertain whether a bond must be posted prior to the issuance of letters of special administration.

    (Eff. 1/01/05)

    B. PETITION FOR PROBATE OF WILL OR CODICIL

    When a petition for probate of will or codicil is filed, the original of the document being offered for probate must be filed prior to, or concurrently with, the petition. If the will or any part thereof is handwritten, a typewritten copy of the handwritten portion must also accompany the petition.

    If the will is in a foreign language, a translation by an expert must be submitted at the time of filing the petition for probate. An affidavit or declaration as to the expertise of the translator must accompany the translation.


    Also, being that Katherine has custody, it seems the children are spending alot of time away from her lol....for example, the kids meeting their grandma for lunch and she was not very affectionate with them (remember that) and this last stunt having the kids go to Hawaii instead of honouring and remembering their Dad on June 25th. Things just don't add up...but can't put my finger on it yet... <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? -->
  • sweet1sweet1 Posts: 312
    IMHO! Nothing will ever add up in this case. Everything is a lie! I strongly believe that is why MJ went back to his attorneys from the eighties to show him how he could do things legally but not binding. There's no way for any of us to figure this out. Also, why would the kids go to Hawaii instead of Gary, IN to pay tribute to their dad. It's obvious that there was no validate reason.Their dad isn't dead like the world believes. Katherine being in Gary was more or less a pony/dog show. It was for all of the world that believes MJ is dead. Give me a break! The Will papers will never be filed. Keep the Faith!

    P.S. Dr. Murray killed the King of Pop and keeps his medical license. Right! I guess he kept it because perhaps he didn't kill him afterall!
  • 2ndStarTheRight2ndStarTheRight Posts: 34
    IMHO! Nothing will ever add up in this case. Everything is a lie! I strongly believe that is why MJ went back to his attorneys from the eighties to show him how he could do things legally but not binding. There's no way for any of us to figure this out. Also, why would the kids go to Hawaii instead of Gary, IN to pay tribute to their dad. It's obvious that there was no validate reason.Their dad isn't dead like the world believes. Katherine being in Gary was more or less a pony/dog show. It was for all of the world that believes MJ is dead. Give me a break! The Will papers will never be filed. Keep the Faith!

    P.S. Dr. Murray killed the King of Pop and keeps his medical license. Right! I guess he kept it because perhaps he didn't kill him afterall!

    I completely agree. Michael was the one that brought his team back together. Branca has been apart of every major deal Micahel has made. I know they had a falling out but Michael chose to bring him back on board. I agree with you. He knows Michael's legal history and he knows the buiness legalities inside and out. I think he was the only one for this job. I know some bring up his tie to Sony but this could also make him an asset. Sony would trust him and that could make him a powerful advocate for Michael; they could use that relationship with Sony to their benefit.
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