Exactly so dead and cold and I mean no disrespect at all to anyone who thinks differently because without different thinking, we would get nowhere in this adventure. One person can think one way and explore those avenues and then others can explore other things. But the photo does make me sad, because I miss Michael, want to know the truth and it would bring me to my knees to think there is even a slight possibility that someone took photos of him dead and is making money from it. Please dont let that be the case.
My first impression of this photo was that Michael looks like a robot here. For me it looks scarry. Lifeless, as said by many of you before.
The question is WHO wanted this photo to look like this. Michael? Or he has nothing to do with it?
By the way, during reading your posts it came to my mind that Michael liked to "be" a robot in the Moonwalker.
This is an adventure... a great adventure... <!-- s8-) -->8-)<!-- s8-) -->
I know this is what Michael said, but to me this hoax is everything but a great adventure. It's a nightmare. Honestly, I hate it. I wish Michael had never started it...
With extra makeup and photo touch-ups could his look at 50 here, match the look below.
IMO, no.
This photo is, to me, taken either far back and heavily photoshopped or it's a doll/mannequin/dead person. The make-up and styling are very artistic and all, but the mood of the image is very cold and heartless. Like a ghost, nothing warm...
I want to stay open-minded, so I entertained the possibility that someone posed MJ's lifeless body for those pics, but that would mean that his family would have lent his body to a photographer and authorized it. There's no way Katherine or the rest of his family would allow someone to do that. I know one of you is going to say that, "maybe someone borrowed MJ's lifeless body from Forest Lawn or the morgue and took the posed photos of him without the knowledge or consent of his family". Can you imagine the legal implications of doing something like that? And even if someone was crazy enough to take that risk, I think the photos would fetch more money if they say they are photos of a dead Michael. After all, he's worth more dead than alive, right? In short, there's no way those photos are of a dead Michael.
So then I entertained the possibility that it's a wax mannequin of Michael, and that sounds more feasible than the dead body option. However, some of the photos feature Michael with his eyes open. To my knowledge, you cannot open and close wax statues' eyes like a doll. They are fixed. Before someone says, "well then they had two wax mannequins, one for the photos with his eyes closed and one for the photos with his eyes open"....I don't think so. The trouble and cost of doing even one wax mannequin this convincing would probably exceed whatever money they could fetch for the photos, unless they later use the mannquins for something else, like for a wax museum.
To me, those photos are of living, breathing, beautiful Michael. Of course this is all my reasoning and personal opinion because some of you will not change your minds no matter what I think, and that's cool too.
By now everyone must be familiar with the newly released pictures of MJ supposedly taken in 1999 by Arno Bani, but many of us speculate that it was taken more recently. Well, I found a hole in Arno's timeline regarding the date of the photoshoot that might prove the photoshoot did not take place in 1999.
I checked out Arno Bani's bio in the link mack5K provided, (thanks mack5K). According to the bio, dated April 2006, Arno Bani was 25 at the time the bio was written. In the bio, it says Arno was 23 when he met Michael Jackson. Now for the math. If Arno was 25 in 2006, then he must be 28 or 29 in 2010. But if the photoshoot with MJ was in 1999 (11 years ago), then Arno Bani would have been only 18 years old when he took those photos. Yet the bio says that Arno produced his first fashion and beauty pictures when he was just 20 years old. At age 18 he was still in school and a floor assistant at some photography studios.
Now if it's true that Arno was 23 when he photographed Michael, then that would have been in 2004 which was the year of the trial, which might explain why the pictures look more recent than 1999 and more importantly, why MJ looks so sad. But why lie about the date of the photoshoot? How can you confuse 1999 with 2004, they're not even in the same decade!
Here's the bio:
ARNO BANI - BIOGRAPHIE - APRIL 2006
Arno Bani's career began while he was still at school. A self-taught and determined individual, he took the decision at the age of eighteen
to become involved in visual art by producing his first pictures. His desire to learn the trade on-the-job and in a more professional way led him to finish his school studies. He spent several months as a
floor assistant at some of Paris' most famous studios. His wish, however, was to be able to put forward his vision of things from behind
the camera lens; he made good use of the facilities provided to him by his various studios and made a push for the big time. At the age of just twenty, he produced his first fashion and beauty pictures in Sweden and began to make a name for himself outside of
Paris. He caught the eye of Isabella Blow, talent scout from the Sunday Times, who spotted his first offerings. They struck up a
relationship and worked together on successive occasions. The young Frenchman began to turn his camera to an ever greater range of
subjects and his confidence grew and grew.
His creations are the result of a blend of thought and instinct. The concepts of luxury and chic are reworked and displayed for all to see.
With artistic flair and taste akin to those of Ora Ito and Topolino, Arno Bani took a course off the beaten track of fashion towards his
own personal visual world, in which he expresses his specific vision of the feminine form.
His work was then noticed by Michael Jackson in the fashion pages of the Sunday Times. Jackson entrusted his image to Arno Bani by
commissioning a series of portraits. At the age of twenty-three, Arno Bani found himself face to face with a living legend with the task of
capturing him on film.This project sealed Arno Bani's reputation as one of the most talented photographers of his generation. He was subsequently taken on by
such fashion and luxury-item names as Lacroix, Givenchy and Cartier and by David Guetta, Bob Sinclair and the stars of Air. Now aged twenty-five, Arno Bani is a famous photographer beyond the world of fashion. Based on oppositions - a mix of classicism and
modernity - his monochrome approach has now become omnipresent and can be seen in the pages of Citizen K, Spoon, Visionaire and
Jalouse.......
You can read the rest of the bio here: http://www.arnobani.fr/#:
Here's Arno Bani's contact info in case anyone is ballsy enough to clear up the discrepancy by going straight to the horse's mouth. I'm not <!-- s:oops: -->:oops:<!-- s:oops: -->.
20 rue des Coutures Saint Gervais 75003 PARIS / FRANCE t. +33 6 88 23 67 53 <!-- e -->http://www.myspace.com/arnobani<!-- m -->
One last thing, the following picture has the year 2010 printed on it. Would it not make more sense to stamp the picture with the year the picture was taken, instead of the year the picture was published? Maybe someone with a background in fashion or photography can shed light on this.
Wow!!! Good point. My question is this: When was the pic released? We should search the internet for anything relevant (articles, his portfolio, etc) in pursuit of a date. An author/artist can copyright something from many, many years ago if the intent is to keep others from capatalizing off their work---and rightfully so today (2010) since the subject has "died". What I'm getting at is that if the pic was taken around the time of the trials, MJ's stock dropped and the photog may have decided to shelve the pic for future use. I'm in agreement with you, it wouldn't make much sense to have held on to the pic for several years and distribute it without the proper copyrights. Regardless, it is definitely a recent pic of his and one of my favorites.
1)If a body has been dead for several days can the eyes still be opened and closed? Not sure about this? Also after all the different people we read saying they had dressed Michael and all of the conflicts about that....OMG what if there were in fact different people taking clothes on and off Michael for the purpose of posing him and making money by taking pictures after death!!!!
2) If Michael is indeed alive in these shots I have another theory and remember this is the mind of Michael we are talking about so he's hard to figure out. Sometimes we have to think like children to get inside that noggin of his lol BUT Listen up......the blue eye....Monsters INC!! Mike Wazowsss his name...the little green guy with the big BLUE EYE!!!! Also the big M inside of the eye logo over the Monsters INC factory and the yellow cabs and cars in the movie...the fact that the factory went from scaring kids to making them smile!!! The monsters were "in the closets" and trying to make kids "scream". This movie screams MJ all over it and also Blanket's online video talking about Mike the green monster!!! There was even a sunflower hanging on a mobile over little Boos bed!!!
Interesting finds but I must say that those pics really look like Michael during the History era.
Btw, I think these pictures are very artistic and Michael looks just beautiful. I love that he wanted to try something new but I guess people have different opinions. I also adore this Greg Gorman photo which was apparently meant to be the album cover for the Bad album but just as in this case Michael's beautiful ideas were shot down by people from his record label <!-- s:x -->:x<!-- s:x --> - too bad.
Interesting finds but I must say that those pics really look like Michael during the History era.
Btw, I think these pictures are very artistic and Michael looks just beautiful. I love that he wanted to try something new but I guess people have different opinions. I also adore this Greg Gorman photo which was apparently meant to be the album cover for the Bad album but just as in this case Michael's beautiful ideas were shot down by people from his record label <!-- s:x -->:x<!-- s:x --> - too bad.
The picture you posted is not visible. Can someone repost it please?
Interesting finds but I must say that those pics really look like Michael during the History era.
Btw, I think these pictures are very artistic and Michael looks just beautiful. I love that he wanted to try something new but I guess people have different opinions. I also adore this Greg Gorman photo which was apparently meant to be the album cover for the Bad album but just as in this case Michael's beautiful ideas were shot down by people from his record label <!-- s:x -->:x<!-- s:x --> - too bad.
The picture you posted is not visible. Can someone repost it please?
I'm not saying it's MJ's dead body, because I don't really believe that. But I stick to this thought - this photo is not recent.
Maybe not as recent as 2010....but do you believe it's from 1999?
I don't know and I don't want to take a wild guess. But in my personal view these were taken way before his 2005 molestation trial, probably not later than 2002...I'm not following the timeline, I'm just basing it on MJ's appereance.
I personally think this Arno Bani story is very strange ... This guy was young when he took these photos and not so well known I would say ...
To work with Michael allows you to make the next step easily ... Why no one word about this collaboration for more than 10 years ?! It was not his time to shine <!-- s --><!-- s --> Why to keep it secret and confidential ?
And now why to sell these photos only in December this year and by auction ...?
Why Arno Bani is still the owner of these photos and not the Michael estate ???
Why his friends are congratulating him on his facebook if this work is not new ? Thumbs up and it will be crazy ...
Too many open questions isn't it ?
There is some sort of filter applied over the subject, that is why it has that matte/texture look. I found out by doing some things to it in my editor.
Interesting finds but I must say that those pics really look like Michael during the History era.
Btw, I think these pictures are very artistic and Michael looks just beautiful. I love that he wanted to try something new but I guess people have different opinions. I also adore this Greg Gorman photo which was apparently meant to be the album cover for the Bad album but just as in this case Michael's beautiful ideas were shot down by people from his record label <!-- s:x -->:x<!-- s:x --> - too bad.
The picture you posted is not visible. Can someone repost it please?
it's this one <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
Ah, yes...THAT one. He's absolutely sublime in that one.
I have noticed something about Michael's body that I'm not sure I've ever seen discussed on the Forum, so please forgive me if this is "old news"....but have you ever noticed the indentation on his neck below his Adam's Apple? It is very pronounced and I just noticed it in the August picture of his 2010 calendar....in that picture, he looks only about 8 years old....this could be a feature to help us determine if we are looking at a picture of the REAL MJ, as I don't think this is something a double/fake could replicate! It is very noticable in the "Blue Moon" picture that has surfaced...
Personally, I think this is a VERY recent picture of Mike and my RECENT, I mean, I think it was taken AFTER June 25, 2009.
That's my 2 cents for these pictures. I really don't care when they were taken.
First of all, it is unlikely to me that they are being published at this very moment just for an auction. All kinds of photos have seen daylight in the last year that came out for a purpose.
Second, Michael looks very pure as if he had been purified, he gives a calm, sincere aura.
The blue on his left eye represents a Blue Moon to me.
Blue Moon
Most years have twelve full moons that occur approximately monthly. In addition to those twelve full lunar cycles, each solar calendar year contains roughly eleven days more than the lunar year of 12 lunations. The extra days accumulate, so every two or three years (7 times in the 19-year Metonic cycle), there is an extra full moon.
(A blue moon therefore is an extra full moon #13 in a year's cycle - or even #14 in years when there are two blue moons.)
The most literal meaning of blue moon is when the moon (not necessarily a full moon) appears to a casual observer to be unusually bluish, which is a rare event. The effect can be caused by the Tyndall effect (in turn, caused by smoke or dust particles in the atmosphere), as has happened after forest fires in Sweden and Canada in 1950 and 1951,[7] and after the eruption of Krakatoa in 1883, which caused the moon to appear blue for nearly two years. Other less potent volcanos have also turned the moon blue. People saw blue moons in 1983 after the eruption of the El Chichon volcano in Mexico, and there are reports of blue moons caused by Mt. St. Helens in 1980 and Mount Pinatubo in 1991.[8]
The following blue moons occur between 2009 and 2016. These dates use UTC as the timezone; months vary with different timezones. Seasonal
Using the Farmers' Almanac definition of blue moon (meaning the third full moon in a season of four full moons), blue moons occur
* November 21, 2010
* August 21, 2013
* May 21, 2016
Calendar
Note that, unlike the astronomical seasonal definition, these dates are dependent on the Gregorian calendar and time zones.
Two full moons in one month:
* 2009: December 2, December 31 (partial lunar eclipse visible in some parts of the world), only in time zones west of UTC+05.
* 2010: January 1 (partial lunar eclipse), January 30, only in time zones east of UTC+04:30.
* 2010: March 1, March 30, only in time zones east of UTC+07.
* 2012: August 2, August 31
* 2015: July 2, July 31
The next time New Year's Eve falls on a Blue Moon (as occurred on 2009 December 31) is after one Metonic cycle, in 2028. At that time there will be a total lunar eclipse.
Now why would we find a blue moon covering Michael Jackson's left eye?
We find that in many visuals dominated by entertainment industry productions, artists would pose with something hiding their left eye. Check this out at the numerous NWO / mind control threads.
This is where the "left eye hiding" is said to have its origin:
Horus, the sun of Osiris and Isis was called ‘Horus who rules with two eyes’. His right eye was white and represented the sun: his left eye was black and represented the moon. According to the myth, Horus lost his left eye to his evil brother, Seth, who he fought to avenge Seth’s murder of Osiris. Seth tore out of the eye but lost the fight. The eye was reassembled by magic, by Thoth, the god of writing, the moon and magic. Horus presented his eye to Osiris, who experienced rebirth in the underworld.
-Dictionary of the Occult
A natural color, from the blue of the sky, blue is a universal color. The cool, calming effect of blue makes time pass more quickly and it can help you sleep.
In many diverse cultures blue is significant in religious beliefs, brings peace, or is believed to keep the bad spirits away.
Blue conveys importance and confidence
...feeling blue or getting the blues represents the extremes of the calm feelings associated with blue, i.e. sadness
A deep royal blue or azure conveys richness and perhaps even a touch of superiority.
The clothes look like an elegant black dressing gown carrying many reflecting round mirrors that are giving an impression of staring at Milky Way at night.
Everything is reflecting - the glitter, the mirrors, the moon, the person.
If you look again, you will see even more than what I wrote here.
The complete impression of the pictures is calm, so calm and somewhat sleepy that you could feel falling asleep, if - if there was not Michael. He does not look like being asleep at all.
He is strong, conscious, knowing, humble, pure.
He is standing tall despite what happened in his lifetime, disposing of the calm, unbreakable force of awareness and knowledge.
These pictures are masterpieces of art.
They may be strange to look at at first sight but they are so very much revealing the nature of the man and they are only increasing my respect for him.
I personally have no idea when these pictures were taken, as you can fix someones hair in any style very easily and change the whole look of thier face with the right makeup and the right person to apply the makeup. But I do agree that though strange as the pictures are when you see them, they are very beautiful pictures and show the true, pure Michael.
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The question is WHO wanted this photo to look like this. Michael? Or he has nothing to do with it?
By the way, during reading your posts it came to my mind that Michael liked to "be" a robot in the Moonwalker.
I want to stay open-minded, so I entertained the possibility that someone posed MJ's lifeless body for those pics, but that would mean that his family would have lent his body to a photographer and authorized it. There's no way Katherine or the rest of his family would allow someone to do that. I know one of you is going to say that, "maybe someone borrowed MJ's lifeless body from Forest Lawn or the morgue and took the posed photos of him without the knowledge or consent of his family". Can you imagine the legal implications of doing something like that? And even if someone was crazy enough to take that risk, I think the photos would fetch more money if they say they are photos of a dead Michael. After all, he's worth more dead than alive, right? In short, there's no way those photos are of a dead Michael.
So then I entertained the possibility that it's a wax mannequin of Michael, and that sounds more feasible than the dead body option. However, some of the photos feature Michael with his eyes open. To my knowledge, you cannot open and close wax statues' eyes like a doll. They are fixed. Before someone says, "well then they had two wax mannequins, one for the photos with his eyes closed and one for the photos with his eyes open"....I don't think so. The trouble and cost of doing even one wax mannequin this convincing would probably exceed whatever money they could fetch for the photos, unless they later use the mannquins for something else, like for a wax museum.
To me, those photos are of living, breathing, beautiful Michael. Of course this is all my reasoning and personal opinion because some of you will not change your minds no matter what I think, and that's cool too.
Wow!!! Good point. My question is this: When was the pic released? We should search the internet for anything relevant (articles, his portfolio, etc) in pursuit of a date. An author/artist can copyright something from many, many years ago if the intent is to keep others from capatalizing off their work---and rightfully so today (2010) since the subject has "died". What I'm getting at is that if the pic was taken around the time of the trials, MJ's stock dropped and the photog may have decided to shelve the pic for future use. I'm in agreement with you, it wouldn't make much sense to have held on to the pic for several years and distribute it without the proper copyrights. Regardless, it is definitely a recent pic of his and one of my favorites.
1)If a body has been dead for several days can the eyes still be opened and closed? Not sure about this? Also after all the different people we read saying they had dressed Michael and all of the conflicts about that....OMG what if there were in fact different people taking clothes on and off Michael for the purpose of posing him and making money by taking pictures after death!!!!
2) If Michael is indeed alive in these shots I have another theory and remember this is the mind of Michael we are talking about so he's hard to figure out. Sometimes we have to think like children to get inside that noggin of his lol BUT Listen up......the blue eye....Monsters INC!! Mike Wazowsss his name...the little green guy with the big BLUE EYE!!!! Also the big M inside of the eye logo over the Monsters INC factory and the yellow cabs and cars in the movie...the fact that the factory went from scaring kids to making them smile!!! The monsters were "in the closets" and trying to make kids "scream". This movie screams MJ all over it and also Blanket's online video talking about Mike the green monster!!! There was even a sunflower hanging on a mobile over little Boos bed!!!
This looks much better. I mean he looks very sad, but at least human. Not that robot-like as on that photoshopped one.
yep, and it indeed proves that he is not dead here, but still he looks very sad
Btw, I think these pictures are very artistic and Michael looks just beautiful. I love that he wanted to try something new but I guess people have different opinions. I also adore this Greg Gorman photo which was apparently meant to be the album cover for the Bad album but just as in this case Michael's beautiful ideas were shot down by people from his record label <!-- s:x -->:x<!-- s:x --> - too bad.
Maybe not as recent as 2010....but do you believe it's from 1999?
The picture you posted is not visible. Can someone repost it please?
it's this one <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
I don't know and I don't want to take a wild guess. But in my personal view these were taken way before his 2005 molestation trial, probably not later than 2002...I'm not following the timeline, I'm just basing it on MJ's appereance.
To work with Michael allows you to make the next step easily ... Why no one word about this collaboration for more than 10 years ?! It was not his time to shine <!-- s
And now why to sell these photos only in December this year and by auction ...?
Why Arno Bani is still the owner of these photos and not the Michael estate ???
Why his friends are congratulating him on his facebook if this work is not new ? Thumbs up and it will be crazy ...
Too many open questions isn't it ?
Ah, yes...THAT one. He's absolutely sublime in that one.
Personally, I think this is a VERY recent picture of Mike and my RECENT, I mean, I think it was taken AFTER June 25, 2009.
Peace!
First of all, it is unlikely to me that they are being published at this very moment just for an auction. All kinds of photos have seen daylight in the last year that came out for a purpose.
Second, Michael looks very pure as if he had been purified, he gives a calm, sincere aura.
The blue on his left eye represents a Blue Moon to me.
Blue Moon (A blue moon therefore is an extra full moon #13 in a year's cycle - or even #14 in years when there are two blue moons.)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_moon
Occurancies of Blue Moons:
Now why would we find a blue moon covering Michael Jackson's left eye?
We find that in many visuals dominated by entertainment industry productions, artists would pose with something hiding their left eye. Check this out at the numerous NWO / mind control threads.
This is where the "left eye hiding" is said to have its origin:
http://vigilantcitizen.com/?p=1676
Meanings of the colour "blue": http://desktoppub.about.com/cs/colorselection/p/blue.htm
The blue colour used is a blueish azur like the sea with a lot of sparkling glitter in it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glitter
The clothes look like an elegant black dressing gown carrying many reflecting round mirrors that are giving an impression of staring at Milky Way at night.
Everything is reflecting - the glitter, the mirrors, the moon, the person.
If you look again, you will see even more than what I wrote here.
The complete impression of the pictures is calm, so calm and somewhat sleepy that you could feel falling asleep, if - if there was not Michael. He does not look like being asleep at all.
He is strong, conscious, knowing, humble, pure.
He is standing tall despite what happened in his lifetime, disposing of the calm, unbreakable force of awareness and knowledge.
These pictures are masterpieces of art.
They may be strange to look at at first sight but they are so very much revealing the nature of the man and they are only increasing my respect for him.