Important. Pay attention to the Brown family.

CrossCross Posts: 3
edited January 1970 in General Hoax Investigation
I talking about James Brown's family. One family member should get the most attention. There has been a lack of news about James Brown lately ever since the rumor that his body waa missing. That's going to change the next few months news about James Brown once again will be in the news that will tie in with the hoax. And no I'm not telling you that James Brown is alive. But do you think it was a coincidence that the information about Murray was also James Brown's doctor only came out after Michael's ''death''? Why hasn't anyone from the Brown family addressed those rumors? And do you really believe that James Brown is buried in his daugther's yard? Because he's not. What about the rumors whether or not James Brown was murdered? If you haven't heard those do alittle search. To answer the question how do I know before it is asked. I know because I know the Brown family whether or not I'm a family member or friend isn't important. But what I'm telling you is. I know what you are thinking another person messing with us. Well all I can say to that is wait and see.
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  • SouzaSouza Posts: 9,400
    We'll wait and see. Still waiting for the news on his missing body, so I hope you are right.

    "For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."

  • looking4truthlooking4truth Posts: 1,450
    That missing body story was very odd and I will look into those rumors about his death possibly being a murder. I wouldn't be surprise. There's been quite a few deaths that have been odd pre and post Michael. Thanks for the heads up. I'll just wait and see and investigate a little.
  • Unknown
    his body dead was on national tv 2 hours, nuff said <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: -->
  • Unknown
    I have considered that maybe the Michael autopsy was actually done on James Brown. No autopsy was done on Brown at the time of his death. The findings seemed inconsistent with Michael but maybe James Brown?

    The bedroom was very warm, the heat was cranked (had the body been on ice).

    The body tissues were saturated in propofol including the stomach contents but propofol has a short half-life, so something doesn't seem right there. Propofol wears off quickly when metabolized in a living body but not an already dead one.

    The ambulance attendants said it was "old man" "balding" and he had been dead for "sometime". Maybe he had been dead for quite sometime...
  • JudeJude Posts: 452
    I have considered that maybe the Michael autopsy was actually done on James Brown. No autopsy was done on Brown at the time of his death. The findings seemed inconsistent with Michael but maybe James Brown?

    The bedroom was very warm, the heat was cranked (had the body been on ice).

    The body tissues were saturated in propofol including the stomach contents but propofol has a short half-life, so something doesn't seem right there. Propofol wears off quickly when metabolized in a living body but not an already dead one.

    The ambulance attendants said it was "old man" "balding" and he had been dead for "sometime". Maybe he had been dead for quite sometime...


    Sounds a bit far fetched
  • PrettyYoungTeletubbyPrettyYoungTeletubby Posts: 264
    I have considered that maybe the Michael autopsy was actually done on James Brown. No autopsy was done on Brown at the time of his death. The findings seemed inconsistent with Michael but maybe James Brown?

    The bedroom was very warm, the heat was cranked (had the body been on ice).

    The body tissues were saturated in propofol including the stomach contents but propofol has a short half-life, so something doesn't seem right there. Propofol wears off quickly when metabolized in a living body but not an already dead one.

    The ambulance attendants said it was "old man" "balding" and he had been dead for "sometime". Maybe he had been dead for quite sometime...


    Sounds a bit far fetched

    yep...far fetched imo too...Jb was over 70 and black..and his nose didnt' look anything close to MJ s nose...even if peeps face change when dead, i think they could tell the difference

    They said Mj looked old and bald but then on the ambulance pic, you see a young and rather "alive" MJ with hair. So to me it s simple as ABC: the pic is fake. The secourist must live in a cave if they didnt see the pic in the media. How come they never said it s a fake one? Cause they r on the hoax too..

    No need to get JB s body out of the blue here 3 years after his death

    Anyway i m really looking forward to the news u r talking bout@ OP

    Hope J Brown rests in peace
  • Unknown
    I have considered that maybe the Michael autopsy was actually done on James Brown. No autopsy was done on Brown at the time of his death. The findings seemed inconsistent with Michael but maybe James Brown?

    The bedroom was very warm, the heat was cranked (had the body been on ice).

    The body tissues were saturated in propofol including the stomach contents but propofol has a short half-life, so something doesn't seem right there. Propofol wears off quickly when metabolized in a living body but not an already dead one.

    The ambulance attendants said it was "old man" "balding" and he had been dead for "sometime". Maybe he had been dead for quite sometime...


    Sounds a bit far fetched

    Maybe but some believe that Michael hoaxing his death is far fetched. I did say it was something I had considered. I wasn't presenting it like I know this for a fact.

    We also have the same casket as James Brown, what if it just the same as but is actually "THE SAME" casket. Then Michael visited James Brown for hours at the funeral home and asked many questions about embalming and procedures etc.

    I don't think that at this point when anything is possible, that it is at all that far fetched.
    In all three of these cases (9-9-09, Halloween, and January): there was a realistic possibility of a bam—and especially the last two. Nevertheless, even though there was no bam, there were significant events which fit very well with the three “R” ratings. The 9-9-09 “Resurrection”: movie poster, movie 7 weeks later, and autopsy finalized (you need a dead body for an autopsy, so no resurrection until finalized).
    http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/search.php?t=9763
  • youngatheartyoungatheart Posts: 261
    This might seem a little odd to all of you but I've been thinking about something for quite awhile now. We know that there are inconsistencies in the stories of how Murray came to be Michaels doctor. One says that AEG hired him and another says that Michael insisted on Murray. Now could it be that Michael knew that Murray was James Browns doctor and had suspicions about how he died? Maybe that is why he insisted on Murray so he could get to the truth about how James Brown died . We all know how much Michael loved him. IDK, just a thought.
  • chappiechappie Posts: 529
    http://www.tmz.com/2010/03/12/james-brown-body-not-stolon-missing-grave-crypt-corpse/

    Do people change clothes at their own funeral?
  • DancingTheDreamDancingTheDream Posts: 4,923
    Ok.. interesting theory about how the autopsy was on James Brown and not MJ.. but what about the vitiligo? MJs skin was white, James was black. Also the height... James was very short in comparison to MJ.

    I like the theory and can see where it comes from... but it doesnt fit for me.
  • Unknown
    Ok.. interesting theory about how the autopsy was on James Brown and not MJ.. but what about the vitiligo? MJs skin was white, James was black. Also the height... James was very short in comparison to MJ.

    I like the theory and can see where it comes from... but it doesnt fit for me.
    I don't have all the answers, I was just throwing this out there.
    There has been questions about Michael's height and weight raised. I know that James Brown was about 5' 6" and have no idea if he had vitiligo or not.

    When the Coroner visited the funeral home to take a hair sample from the body, it was covered with numerous sheets and towels. The coroner only viewed the top of the head and the hands and not the face. He said there was a "substance on the hair" and that he had to move a wig to get a hair sample.

    There was no mention of discoloured nails in the autopsy but we know Michael had this.

    Then there is the issue of lungs, there were 3 ailments that showed in the lungs and two of them are related to smoking. As far as I know Michael didn't smoke and anyone suffering from these would have a nagging cough, shortness of breath. They would not be able to sing and dance. I don't know if James Brown smoked cigarettes or anything else.

    It could be a combination of a real autopsy on a body, with added bits, that are also from Michael's real physical condition, such as the vitiligo. I just find it odd that there are reports that James Brown's body is missing, an autopsy was never done on him and the autopsy for Michael doesn't fit him. With the same casket and how much Michael loved James Brown, it makes me wonder.

    I just think it's possible that he arranged this autopsy on Brown because Brown also died under mysterious circumstances. There has been suggestions that Brown was murdered.

    There was controversy about where James Brown was also to be laid to rest. I don't know but maybe it is James Brown in that crypt at Forest Lawn. It might be fitting in Michael's eyes to have his idol in such a "special' place. This could explain why the Jackson's haven't really visited Forest Lawn either.
  • a18wheelsladya18wheelslady Posts: 287
    WOWWWWWWWWWWWWW interesting theory Serenitys_Dream I like it.
    And we all know how much Michael loved and admired him.
  • Unknown
    This also has me thinking about the prostrate medication mentioned in the autopsy, it is used to treat an enlarged prostrate which isn't unusual in older men.

    An enlarged prostate means the gland has grown bigger. Prostate enlargement happens to almost all men as they get older. As the gland grows, it can press on the urethra and cause urination and bladder problems.
    A small amount of prostate enlargement is present in many men over age 40 and more than 90% of men over age 80.
    http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/000381.htm

    Brown was once diagnosed with prostate cancer, which was successfully treated with surgery.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Brown

    Treatment for this cancer is partial or full removal of the prostrate gland. This depends on the size and number of tumours; depending on how far it has spread. If Brown only had a partial removal done then his prostrate could have still been enlarged and he would have been taking the medication to treat that. With this in the wiki on Brown it just feels odd to me, like the medication is pointing to this.

    There is also the unexplained abominable surgery scar mentioned in the autopsy (not related to prostate surgery) but the appendix was intact and the fact that no scars on the scalp where mentioned, yet Michael was burned in the Pepsi accident and there would be scars.

    I received a second degree burn on my leg from the tailpipe of a motorcycle many years ago. I still have a very noticeable scar and virtually no hair grows there. It isn't something that would be missed in an autopsy.
  • mjssoulmatemjssoulmate Posts: 820
    This might seem a little odd to all of you but I've been thinking about something for quite awhile now. We know that there are inconsistencies in the stories of how Murray came to be Michaels doctor. One says that AEG hired him and another says that Michael insisted on Murray. Now could it be that Michael knew that Murray was James Browns doctor and had suspicions about how he died? Maybe that is why he insisted on Murray so he could get to the truth about how James Brown died . We all know how much Michael loved him. IDK, just a thought.

    I posted the same thoughts a while back in another thread. Perhaps revenge is part of this. But as someone pointed out to me, in order for Michael to be alive, Murray must be part of the hoax.
  • all4loveandbelieveall4loveandbelieve Posts: 4,455
    Please correct me if I am wrong. If I understood correctly is that someone stole the body of James Brown, and they are pretending that it is MJbody they are doing autopsy on? Why would they do that? You cannot got and exhume a body without the family's permition, consent. I guess anything is possible with MJ. love to you all
  • GlindaGlinda Posts: 658
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    This is also a weird story.
    I don't know there is something wrong with it..

    And this
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    And this
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  • all4loveandbelieveall4loveandbelieve Posts: 4,455
    http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1355/is_n15_v89/ai_18047623/

    This is also a weird story.
    I don't know there is something wrong with it..

    And this
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    That is so sad. She was young.
  • Unknown
    http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1355/is_n15_v89/ai_18047623/

    This is also a weird story.
    I don't know there is something wrong with it..

    And this
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    Yes, I have read them and I do believe that Murray was the doctor of Brown and his wife.
    Michael, James Brown & wife all mysterious circumstances surrounding these cases.
    As Michael is alive, maybe there is an effort to expose Murray's past deeds, a revenge element.
  • all4loveandbelieveall4loveandbelieve Posts: 4,455
    http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1355/is_n15_v89/ai_18047623/

    This is also a weird story.
    I don't know there is something wrong with it..

    And this
    <!-- m -->http://www.mediatakeout.com/22860/explo ... soned.html<!-- m -->
    Yes, I have read them and I do believe that Murray was the doctor of Brown and his wife.
    Michael, James Brown & wife all mysterious circumstances surrounding these cases.
    As Michael is alive, maybe there is an effort to expose Murray's past deeds, a revenge element.


    Well Michael was very close with James Brown, maybe he found out that Murray had something to do with his death, and now MJ is framing Conrad Murray, by faking his death. Probably the fbi is behind it, protecting Michael. This can be a theory.
  • dragonflyliliesdragonflylilies Posts: 608
    There is no way that they could have used JB body in place of MJ's for an autopsy. JB has been gone for a few yrs and he has already been embalmed. I don't think that there would be any medication left in the body for them to get and analyze. The only other thing I can think that they could do is have someone on the inside of the coroners office say that they did the autopsy on MJ and then switch the names on the report to reflect MJ's. They would have to have inside help for this. But, then again there would be a need for a body, so with the help of the insider they could have used a person that was already there and just used JB's autopsy report.
    The theories are great that were listed, but it just seems far fetched for me.
  • EmpathyEmpathy Posts: 58
    With all due respect to the O.P's initial post, this is another ' I know something you dont know' type of posting ( 2 posts only - take note). Meanwhile it takes someone to come here and say that there are hundreds of young fans out there who are getting more and more upset about the latest revelations and claims that 'someone knows something we will hear soon'. Its all good if thats true or turns out to be the case as many things are a mystery, but I have to say that I am very sad about some of the claims of 'knowledge'' regarding Michael or anyone remotely connected to him and the damage it has done to people. I feel very sorry for fans right now because if there is a garden path certain people can pave, they will and lead people right up it to find nothing at the end. Please be careful of what you post and be very mindful of the sensitivity of the fans as some things lately have just not been fair to some of them.

    Meanwhile, it will be interesting to see if this thread has any creedence. Apologies for not seeming over enthusiastic about the 'James Brown news' right now.
  • voiceforthesilentvoiceforthesilent Posts: 5,485
    http://www.tmz.com/2010/03/12/james-brown-body-not-stolon-missing-grave-crypt-corpse/

    Do people change clothes at their own funeral?

    WOAH - I hadn't noticed that before. Why would the media put a different outfit on him? That's just not right...my first thought was the casket, by the way. This is too disturbing for me. I hope it has a good ending. I don't like "thrillers" like our beloved does. We'll wait and see.

    Edit - The person who posted this posted this message (Cross) doesn't think Michael is alive? Ummm...why wait so long to say anything? James Brown's body story was a while ago. I'm confused.

    Hello everyone I'm from Georgia. I've followed this hoax ever since last year. I have zero doubt that Michael is alive.
  • CrossCross Posts: 3
    Listen to me guys what I'm saying is within the next few months information about James Brown will come out that will fit in with the hoax. It wasn't an coincidence that Murray is connected to James Brown and Michael. I promise you that my words will show to be true.
  • Unknown
    There is no way that they could have used JB body in place of MJ's for an autopsy. JB has been gone for a few yrs and he has already been embalmed. I don't think that there would be any medication left in the body for them to get and analyze. The only other thing I can think that they could do is have someone on the inside of the coroners office say that they did the autopsy on MJ and then switch the names on the report to reflect MJ's. They would have to have inside help for this. But, then again there would be a need for a body, so with the help of the insider they could have used a person that was already there and just used JB's autopsy report.
    The theories are great that were listed, but it just seems far fetched for me.

    Forensic pathology: principles and practice
    By David Dolinak, Evan W. Matshes, Emma O. Lew

    http://books.google.com/books?id=JdtgE0eHTL4C&pg=PA489&lpg=PA489&dq=embalmed+bodies+tested+for+poisons+%26+drugs&source=bl&ots=Tcm8n3OQqc&sig=qy2SWJZs3VwCyJLxTKy_Bhi0Tvs&hl=en&ei=ojROTLWIJIPEsAOB9YwU&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=3&ved=0CB4Q6AEwAg#v=onepage&q&f=false
  • emeraldcityemeraldcity Posts: 222
    I am going to wait and see what news stories come out in the next few months, as Cross suggested <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->

    It is my belief that this is all tied in with the hoax, as are a number of other unexplained deaths in recent times. I know the majority of people don't share my views about others having hoaxed their deaths as well as Michael, but that doesn't matter. One day I hope we'll find out for sure and that will be my "Oh Happy Day" <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->
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