the most horrible, mean and the same time ridiculous thing about that crap was that they called us-his fans-"zombi fans", how mean a human can be i just wonder, they are just sick, obssessed with the idea of portraying MJ as a monster, hate them.
call me crazy but is there any chance this was done just to provoke this exact kind of outrage and getting people moving forward in defense of michael? <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? -->
This is from the thread I started on Michael's official site:
Fellow MJ fans...you're doing EXACTLY what this EXPERIENCED hater wants you to do. I came to you about this a few days ago and the thread SUNK profusely to the bottom...SMDH.
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Monday, July 26, 2010 - 08:59
KinGofPoP411Junky.:
IMPOSTER MJ Fan Forum- MJNO.com VS MJNO.net
Fellow MJ fans, it has been brought to my attention via Twitter via @dmoonstreet that there is an imposter/hater who is relentlessly causing trouble and dismay for Our Beloved King of Pop's fans. As I understand the person behind the trolling is trying to make MJ fans believe they are the ORIGINAL proprietor of a restpected MJ Fan website that was established in 2002.
MissMoonstreet Informs:
"MJNO.COM (MJNEWSONLINE.COM) was started by a British fan called Paul around 2002/2003. For a few years it was THE main MJ forum, and Michael knew about the forum. It closed at the beginning of 2008, for a few reasons...[not to be discussed on here.]"
"I sent Paul a message this morning, when I saw on twitter fans talking about MJNO.NET."
"This is what he replied, some of which I condesensed and put on twitter. He said it was ok for me to pass on the info he sent me."
Paul's Reply:
"I am aware of that website, yes. Of course as you know, mjnewsonline.com is the real MJNO; this website was created by an old-time hater who had been trying to terrorise MJNO since it's very inception!
He popped up again after Michael's death, posting on forums pretending to be me, saying he was re-launching MJNO. No-one believed him of course, and this site is almost all that remains of his campaign.
This person has been around for maybe 6 years. He is relentless. The only thing to do is to ignore him - that has been the only proven way to get rid of him.
Yep, this guy is totally insane. But I must warn, he feeds off of attention. This site isn't new - anyone giving him any attention whatsoever will just encourage him to stick around. Take this from someone who has dealt with him directly over many years.
As for having the site removed, there's no grounds for doing that really. It's up to his web host to host the website, and if they decide not to anymore, someone else will host it. Even the act of trying to get the website removed will be enough to spur him on and continue trolling.
I honestly don't think that anyone would think that's the real MJNO, especially considering I still have the site up in some form at <!-- m -->http://www.mjnewsonline.com<!-- m -->. This guy is quite an idiot, and is utterly incapable of convincing anyone of...anything.
But of course, by all means, if this guy harasses anyone, it should be reported to the proper authorities - whether they be the police, or twitter staff, or whathaveyou. If I recall correctly, he is based in Texas.
Thanks for bringing this to my attention.
Please be cautioned fellow MJ fans...though we haven't had to deal with this issue directly here, I believe it suffices to say that we need to keep our defenses up. This matter arose due to conversations on twitter by fellow MJ fans. With the amount of fans who are barely joining social networks to help them thru their grief, we must be certain that they are made aware of the dangerous trolls that are out there only set on damaging and tainting Michael's legacy.
These are the Tweets from MissMoonstreets Twitter which I was given permission via her to copy and paste. Regardless of any distaste or differences ANY of us, including myself, have had with Moonstreet, we must not let that get in the way of living out our promises to fight for Justice for Michael Jackson...and in my opinion...JUSTICE 4 MJ isn't restricted to a Guilty verdict...it includes protecting and defending his legacy from ALL insult, disrespect, defamation, and slander. Do not seek this @mjnewsonline troll, simply report them if you happen to come in contact or receive any harassment or threats from them.
@dmoonstreet REAL MJNO <!-- m -->http://www.mjnewsonline.com<!-- m -->, still owned by original owner, which closed in January 2008 about 2 hours ago via web @dmoonstreet frm orig owner of MJNO,the act of trying to get the website removed will be enough to spur him on &continue trolling. about 2 hours ago via web @dmoonstreet frm orig owner of MJNO,guy is insane,site isnt new, attention will encourage him to stick around,from some1 who has dealt with him directly about 2 hours ago via web @dmoonstreet the hater is a well known "troll" who feeds off attention, & the original owner of MJNO has had previous battles over many years about 2 hours ago via web @dmoonstreet FAO MJ Fans, the hater site mjnewsonline.net is NOTHING to do with the original MJNO MJ fan site about 2 hours ago via web @dmoonstreet RT Every1 send a complaint email to <!-- m -->http://registrar.godaddy.com<!-- m --> bout <!-- m -->http://www.mjnewsonline.net<!-- m --> they r the server n only 1's who can take it down about 3 hours ago via web Retweeted by dmoonstreet @dmoonstreet Every1 pls report @mjnewsonline for spam. They r spreading disgusting lies about Michael and we can't let it continue.
So let's make it & show them it can be done if we raise our voice as one!
I think it is probably better to just report the site to the Webmaster. The owner of MJNO is apparently a sick person who hates Michael and will do anything for attention. I don't know if it is a good idea to sign a petition. However, reporting the site for spam is probably going to be effective.
I think it is probably better to just report the site to the Webmaster. The owner of MJNO is apparently a sick person who hates Michael and will do anything for attention. I don't know if it is a good idea to sign a petition. However, reporting the site for spam is probably going to be effective.
I posted that already on the official MJ site and people kept replying to it, and i have also posted that info here (it's right above)
That user called KinGofPoP411 already created 2 threads on this after I started mine LOL and when I posted the link to my thread so they could see the petition and the whole MSG he said:
Wednesday, July 28, 2010 - 15:29
KinGofPoP411Junky.:
Re: Please Desist...MJNO.net petition...READ CRITICAL INFORMATION!!! @Hazzely...you're are missing the point of this thread. Your petition will only fuel the hater into slandering and defaming Michael further.
My answer:
Re: Please Desist...MJNO.net petition...READ CRITICAL INFORMATION!!!
So why did you post about it if you don't want to be part of the boycot because it will defame Michael ? It won't defame him. This petition is useful since many of us reported that site on godaddy. They can see how many people want that page down, the number is increasing so you don't have to close ur eyes and do this silently, the world needs to know. Don't turn ur back
REPORT AS OFFENSIVE EDIT
KinGofPoP411Junky.:
Re: Please Desist...MJNO.net petition...READ CRITICAL INFORMATION!!!
Hazzzely, you need to read things carefully before posting. Specifically where I state the following...
Via Paul the ORIGINAL creator of the REAL MJNO.com
"Even the act of trying to get the website removed will be enough to spur him on and continue trolling."
"Do not seek this @mjnewsonline troll, simply report them if you happen to come in contact or receive any harassment or threats from them."
Somebody who has personally dealt with the hater behind @Mjnewsonline specifically advises us AGAINST trying to take action against this troll...ie petitions to <!-- m -->http://www.godaddy.com<!-- m --> and twitter. Taking action against that troll will only push him harder to continue and increase his attacks on Michael.
Please do this in your own way, but the purpose of that petition is to create awareness especially on twitter since it's a huge social network so more people can report it. Many of us, if not all, mentioned the petition when we contacted Godaddy so they could use it as a reference and see how many people want that site down, so why turn your back to that now? If you do this silently no one will know it but 2 or 3 folks out there but if we stick together and ask everyone for help maybe we can make a change..
That's the purpose of the signatures and why we need that petition
And if he wants to create again another site defaming Michael and talking trash about him after this one gets closed then so be it! We will bring that one down too, this is an ARMY and they need to know they can't f**k with us and that we won't let them get it their way
This is not the end..it's just the beginning!
I think it is probably better to just report the site to the Webmaster. The owner of MJNO is apparently a sick person who hates Michael and will do anything for attention. I don't know if it is a good idea to sign a petition. However, reporting the site for spam is probably going to be effective.
I posted that already on the official MJ site and people kept replying to it, and i have also posted that info here (it's right above)
That user called KinGofPoP411 already created 2 threads on this after I started mine LOL and when I posted the link to my thread so they could see the petition and the whole MSG he said:
Wednesday, July 28, 2010 - 15:29
KinGofPoP411Junky.:
Re: Please Desist...MJNO.net petition...READ CRITICAL INFORMATION!!! @Hazzely...you're are missing the point of this thread. Your petition will only fuel the hater into slandering and defaming Michael further.
My answer:
Re: Please Desist...MJNO.net petition...READ CRITICAL INFORMATION!!!
So why did you post about it if you don't want to be part of the boycot because it will defame Michael ? It won't defame him. This petition is useful since many of us reported that site on godaddy. They can see how many people want that page down, the number is increasing so you don't have to close ur eyes and do this silently, the world needs to know. Don't turn ur back
REPORT AS OFFENSIVE EDIT
KinGofPoP411Junky.:
Re: Please Desist...MJNO.net petition...READ CRITICAL INFORMATION!!!
Hazzzely, you need to read things carefully before posting. Specifically where I state the following...
Via Paul the ORIGINAL creator of the REAL MJNO.com
"Even the act of trying to get the website removed will be enough to spur him on and continue trolling."
"Do not seek this @mjnewsonline troll, simply report them if you happen to come in contact or receive any harassment or threats from them."
Somebody who has personally dealt with the hater behind @Mjnewsonline specifically advises us AGAINST trying to take action against this troll...ie petitions to <!-- m -->http://www.godaddy.com<!-- m --> and twitter. Taking action against that troll will only push him harder to continue and increase his attacks on Michael.
Please do this in your own way, but the purpose of that petition is to create awareness especially on twitter since it's a huge social network so more people can report it. Many of us, if not all, mentioned the petition when we contacted Godaddy so they could use it as a reference and see how many people want that site down, so why turn your back to that now? If you do this silently no one will know it but 2 or 3 folks out there but if we stick together and ask everyone for help maybe we can make a change..
That's the purpose of the signatures and why we need that petition
And if he wants to create again another site defaming Michael and talking trash about him after this one gets closed then so be it! We will bring that one down too, this is an ARMY and they need to know they can't f**k with us and that we won't let them get it their way
This is not the end..it's just the beginning!
Thanks, Hazzely. I see more of what you are saying; and I support anyone in this , no matter which way they respond. I also signed the petition and reported the site to godaddy.com. Thanks again for informing us of this site so that we can bring it down (and bring down any others that this (and other) haters may try to put up.
call me crazy but is there any chance this was done just to provoke this exact kind of outrage and getting people moving forward in defense of michael? <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? -->
Could actually be. Seriously, what more could we do to defend him? <!-- s --><!-- s -->
If this is an example to draw our attention on such nasty things and to get people started, we should hear the call and react now.
I am trying to sign it but twitter is currently down.... I will sign asap..Ive been off line for a few days love you all hugs Some words from my heart to you all If you desire faith, then you have faith enough. Keep the faith!! L.O.V.E. <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
here's something regarding those sickos, just tweeted. page is down, but those 20+ hrs it was up, it collected a few hundred 'fans'. horrible to think that people are actually having fun torturing and killing...some big dog should just walk up to them and chew their balls off! slowly...
funny how facebook wants to access your info with every little gimmick you do there and you end up with ads in your mailbox you never wanted, but they can't check if a newly opened site is against the law? this time, the title even gave it away! you can't check for keywords, facebook? nobody doing any monitoring there?
hope these dog-torturing and -killing bastards land in jail! <!-- s:evil: -->:evil:<!-- s:evil: -->
These are all pages that attack Michael. Some even do so by impersonating his children. If we all work together, we can bring these pages down. Please help me with this. Thank you.
On another site, it was brought to my attention that there are difficulties reporting channels as offensive on YouTube. This is my reply:
On page 1, I click on hate speech and then on Continue.
On page 2, I click Yes, and then on Continue.
On page 3, I click on "This user is using hate speech against a protected group," and then on Continue.
On page 4, I enter the name of the offending user (the user's youtube link minus the <!-- m -->http://www.youtube.com/<!-- m -->) and then click Continue.
On page 5, I click on "[UserName] is using hate speech against a protected group," then click on any one of the options below that, and then click on Continue.
On page 6, I select "Videos" and select any offensive videos. If the user has no videos uploaded, I go to the user's channel and click on an offensive favorite video. Then I click on share, highlight the url for the video, and copy-and-paste it into the box provided on the safety help page. Then I delete everything to the right of youtube.com/ and then click "Find Video". When the video is displayed, I click the box next to the video; and hten I click Continue.
On page 7, I click on "block user" and then on Continue.
On page 8, I say (for Blanket666Jackson or ParisJacksonEatsShit), "Impersonates a minor child for the purposes of attacking the person, character, and/or reputation of that child's father." I also mention the name(s) of any group(s) which that user is involved in that might be targeting protected groups; and I provide the urls of the group sites. For instance, regarding the ParisJacksonEatsShit channel, I stated "Impersonates a minor child for the purpose of attacking the person, character, and reputation of her father. User is a member of "House of Pain" <!-- m -->http://www.youtube.com/group/melissagroup<!-- m --> which targets minority groups and their friends for "punishment" which "will not be pretty." Then I click Continue. And that concludes the report.
Occasionally, YouTube redirects me to the wrong page; and I have to start all over again. Sometimes this happens several times; and it becomes frustrating; but I go through the process until I successfully report the channel. I will not give up in speaking up for those who cannot speak up for themselves. Again, the reporting link is: <!-- m -->http://www.youtube.com/safety_help?hl_en<!-- m --> Thank you for all of your help.
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done and retweeted (325 signatures so far ...) @ Facebook !
333 signatures so far.
was just wondering whether you can sign it more than once, considering many of us have about 3 or 4 twitter accounts? <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->
Fellow MJ fans...you're doing EXACTLY what this EXPERIENCED hater wants you to do. I came to you about this a few days ago and the thread SUNK profusely to the bottom...SMDH.
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Monday, July 26, 2010 - 08:59
KinGofPoP411Junky.:
IMPOSTER MJ Fan Forum- MJNO.com VS MJNO.net
Fellow MJ fans, it has been brought to my attention via Twitter via @dmoonstreet that there is an imposter/hater who is relentlessly causing trouble and dismay for Our Beloved King of Pop's fans. As I understand the person behind the trolling is trying to make MJ fans believe they are the ORIGINAL proprietor of a restpected MJ Fan website that was established in 2002.
MissMoonstreet Informs:
"MJNO.COM (MJNEWSONLINE.COM) was started by a British fan called Paul around 2002/2003. For a few years it was THE main MJ forum, and Michael knew about the forum. It closed at the beginning of 2008, for a few reasons...[not to be discussed on here.]"
"I sent Paul a message this morning, when I saw on twitter fans talking about MJNO.NET."
"This is what he replied, some of which I condesensed and put on twitter. He said it was ok for me to pass on the info he sent me."
Paul's Reply:
"I am aware of that website, yes. Of course as you know, mjnewsonline.com is the real MJNO; this website was created by an old-time hater who had been trying to terrorise MJNO since it's very inception!
He popped up again after Michael's death, posting on forums pretending to be me, saying he was re-launching MJNO. No-one believed him of course, and this site is almost all that remains of his campaign.
This person has been around for maybe 6 years. He is relentless. The only thing to do is to ignore him - that has been the only proven way to get rid of him.
Yep, this guy is totally insane. But I must warn, he feeds off of attention. This site isn't new - anyone giving him any attention whatsoever will just encourage him to stick around. Take this from someone who has dealt with him directly over many years.
As for having the site removed, there's no grounds for doing that really. It's up to his web host to host the website, and if they decide not to anymore, someone else will host it. Even the act of trying to get the website removed will be enough to spur him on and continue trolling.
I honestly don't think that anyone would think that's the real MJNO, especially considering I still have the site up in some form at <!-- m -->http://www.mjnewsonline.com<!-- m -->. This guy is quite an idiot, and is utterly incapable of convincing anyone of...anything.
But of course, by all means, if this guy harasses anyone, it should be reported to the proper authorities - whether they be the police, or twitter staff, or whathaveyou. If I recall correctly, he is based in Texas.
Thanks for bringing this to my attention.
Please be cautioned fellow MJ fans...though we haven't had to deal with this issue directly here, I believe it suffices to say that we need to keep our defenses up. This matter arose due to conversations on twitter by fellow MJ fans. With the amount of fans who are barely joining social networks to help them thru their grief, we must be certain that they are made aware of the dangerous trolls that are out there only set on damaging and tainting Michael's legacy.
These are the Tweets from MissMoonstreets Twitter which I was given permission via her to copy and paste. Regardless of any distaste or differences ANY of us, including myself, have had with Moonstreet, we must not let that get in the way of living out our promises to fight for Justice for Michael Jackson...and in my opinion...JUSTICE 4 MJ isn't restricted to a Guilty verdict...it includes protecting and defending his legacy from ALL insult, disrespect, defamation, and slander. Do not seek this @mjnewsonline troll, simply report them if you happen to come in contact or receive any harassment or threats from them.
@dmoonstreet REAL MJNO <!-- m -->http://www.mjnewsonline.com<!-- m -->, still owned by original owner, which closed in January 2008 about 2 hours ago via web
@dmoonstreet frm orig owner of MJNO,the act of trying to get the website removed will be enough to spur him on &continue trolling. about 2 hours ago via web
@dmoonstreet frm orig owner of MJNO,guy is insane,site isnt new, attention will encourage him to stick around,from some1 who has dealt with him directly about 2 hours ago via web
@dmoonstreet the hater is a well known "troll" who feeds off attention, & the original owner of MJNO has had previous battles over many years about 2 hours ago via web
@dmoonstreet FAO MJ Fans, the hater site mjnewsonline.net is NOTHING to do with the original MJNO MJ fan site about 2 hours ago via web
@dmoonstreet RT Every1 send a complaint email to <!-- m -->http://registrar.godaddy.com<!-- m --> bout <!-- m -->http://www.mjnewsonline.net<!-- m --> they r the server n only 1's who can take it down about 3 hours ago via web Retweeted by dmoonstreet
@dmoonstreet Every1 pls report @mjnewsonline for spam. They r spreading disgusting lies about Michael and we can't let it continue.
So let's make it & show them it can be done if we raise our voice as one!
GO Hazzley and GOOOO MJ Army of L.O.V.E.!!!
I am supporting this, too. I just want to point you to a site with more information: <!-- m -->http://www.michaeljackson.com/us/node/8 ... ent-899090<!-- m -->
I think it is probably better to just report the site to the Webmaster. The owner of MJNO is apparently a sick person who hates Michael and will do anything for attention. I don't know if it is a good idea to sign a petition. However, reporting the site for spam is probably going to be effective.
I posted that already on the official MJ site and people kept replying to it, and i have also posted that info here (it's right above)
That user called KinGofPoP411 already created 2 threads on this after I started mine LOL and when I posted the link to my thread so they could see the petition and the whole MSG he said:
My answer:
Please do this in your own way, but the purpose of that petition is to create awareness especially on twitter since it's a huge social network so more people can report it. Many of us, if not all, mentioned the petition when we contacted Godaddy so they could use it as a reference and see how many people want that site down, so why turn your back to that now? If you do this silently no one will know it but 2 or 3 folks out there but if we stick together and ask everyone for help maybe we can make a change..
That's the purpose of the signatures and why we need that petition
And if he wants to create again another site defaming Michael and talking trash about him after this one gets closed then so be it! We will bring that one down too, this is an ARMY and they need to know they can't f**k with us and that we won't let them get it their way
This is not the end..it's just the beginning!
Thanks, Hazzely. I see more of what you are saying; and I support anyone in this , no matter which way they respond. I also signed the petition and reported the site to godaddy.com. Thanks again for informing us of this site so that we can bring it down (and bring down any others that this (and other) haters may try to put up.
Could actually be. Seriously, what more could we do to defend him? <!-- s
If this is an example to draw our attention on such nasty things and to get people started, we should hear the call and react now.
funny how facebook wants to access your info with every little gimmick you do there and you end up with ads in your mailbox you never wanted, but they can't check if a newly opened site is against the law? this time, the title even gave it away! you can't check for keywords, facebook? nobody doing any monitoring there?
hope these dog-torturing and -killing bastards land in jail! <!-- s:evil: -->:evil:<!-- s:evil: -->
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These are all pages that attack Michael. Some even do so by impersonating his children. If we all work together, we can bring these pages down. Please help me with this. Thank you.
Here is the link for reporting offensive youtube channels: <!-- m -->http://www.youtube.com/safety_help?hl_en<!-- m -->
On page 1, I click on hate speech and then on Continue.
On page 2, I click Yes, and then on Continue.
On page 3, I click on "This user is using hate speech against a protected group," and then on Continue.
On page 4, I enter the name of the offending user (the user's youtube link minus the <!-- m -->http://www.youtube.com/<!-- m -->) and then click Continue.
On page 5, I click on "[UserName] is using hate speech against a protected group," then click on any one of the options below that, and then click on Continue.
On page 6, I select "Videos" and select any offensive videos. If the user has no videos uploaded, I go to the user's channel and click on an offensive favorite video. Then I click on share, highlight the url for the video, and copy-and-paste it into the box provided on the safety help page. Then I delete everything to the right of youtube.com/ and then click "Find Video". When the video is displayed, I click the box next to the video; and hten I click Continue.
On page 7, I click on "block user" and then on Continue.
On page 8, I say (for Blanket666Jackson or ParisJacksonEatsShit), "Impersonates a minor child for the purposes of attacking the person, character, and/or reputation of that child's father." I also mention the name(s) of any group(s) which that user is involved in that might be targeting protected groups; and I provide the urls of the group sites. For instance, regarding the ParisJacksonEatsShit channel, I stated "Impersonates a minor child for the purpose of attacking the person, character, and reputation of her father. User is a member of "House of Pain" <!-- m -->http://www.youtube.com/group/melissagroup<!-- m --> which targets minority groups and their friends for "punishment" which "will not be pretty." Then I click Continue. And that concludes the report.
Occasionally, YouTube redirects me to the wrong page; and I have to start all over again. Sometimes this happens several times; and it becomes frustrating; but I go through the process until I successfully report the channel. I will not give up in speaking up for those who cannot speak up for themselves. Again, the reporting link is: <!-- m -->http://www.youtube.com/safety_help?hl_en<!-- m --> Thank you for all of your help.