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Ignorance...
"For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."
What does the Bible say about certain types of abilities such as those possessed by psychics and mediums—including clairvoyance, telekinesis, and communication with the dead?
Well, the Bible makes it clear that these types of experiences should be avoided. We should not exercise any sort of spiritual abilities outside the realm of what the Bible deems acceptable, nor should we consult with anyone who does so.
If such a thing as a sixth sense or third eye truly exists, it is not of God. Those who claim to practice such abilities are either deceivers, self-deceived, and/or under the power of demonic forces. <!-- s:twisted: -->:twisted:<!-- s:twisted: --> Leviticus 19:31 says, "Do not rely on mediums and psychics, for you will be defiled by them. I, the Lord, am your God." Consulting spiritists is foolish and angers the Lord (2 Chronicles 33:6).
It’s a good thing that these individuals did not live in the Old Testaments days because acting as a medium or psychic was punishable by death in the Old Testament. Exodus 22:18 "Do not allow a sorceress to live.”Leviticus 20:27“A man or woman who is a medium or spiritist among you must be put to death. You are to stone them; their blood will be on their own heads.”Leviticus 19:31"Do not turn to mediums or seek out spiritists, for you will be defiled by them. I am the LORD your God.”Leviticus 20:6“I will set my face against the person who turns to mediums and spiritists to prostitute himself by following them, and I will cut him off from his people.”
The Bible tells us that the Holy Spirit of God has been given to each of us who have received salvation through faith in Christ (Romans 8:9-11). This Spirit will be our guide and teacher of all truth (John 16:13). For Christians, all spiritual leading and communication should come from God, through prayer and revelation from His Word. The only “sixth sense” we need is the Holy Spirit; everything else is counterfeit. But if we allow the Holy Spirit to fill and control us (Ephesians 5:18), we will not be led astray by deceiving spirits.
What does the Bible say about certain types of abilities such as those possessed by psychics and mediums—including clairvoyance, telekinesis, and communication with the dead?
Well, the Bible makes it clear that these types of experiences should be avoided. We should not exercise any sort of spiritual abilities outside the realm of what the Bible deems acceptable, nor should we consult with anyone who does so.
If such a thing as a sixth sense or third eye truly exists, it is not of God. Those who claim to practice such abilities are either deceivers, self-deceived, and/or under the power of demonic forces. <!-- s:twisted: -->:twisted:<!-- s:twisted: --> Leviticus 19:31 says, "Do not rely on mediums and psychics, for you will be defiled by them. I, the Lord, am your God." Consulting spiritists is foolish and angers the Lord (2 Chronicles 33:6).
It’s a good thing that these individuals did not live in the Old Testaments days because acting as a medium or psychic was punishable by death in the Old Testament. Exodus 22:18 "Do not allow a sorceress to live.”Leviticus 20:27“A man or woman who is a medium or spiritist among you must be put to death. You are to stone them; their blood will be on their own heads.”Leviticus 19:31"Do not turn to mediums or seek out spiritists, for you will be defiled by them. I am the LORD your God.”Leviticus 20:6“I will set my face against the person who turns to mediums and spiritists to prostitute himself by following them, and I will cut him off from his people.”
The Bible tells us that the Holy Spirit of God has been given to each of us who have received salvation through faith in Christ (Romans 8:9-11). This Spirit will be our guide and teacher of all truth (John 16:13). For Christians, all spiritual leading and communication should come from God, through prayer and revelation from His Word. The only “sixth sense” we need is the Holy Spirit; everything else is counterfeit. But if we allow the Holy Spirit to fill and control us (Ephesians 5:18), we will not be led astray by deceiving spirits.
Blessings to all up “on the wings of love.”
What about people who claim to talk to Jesus or to God himself? What about all those saints that have talked to spirits of other saints? Dos that mean the church is not following the word of God for making them saints?
I believe in God but I also believe that the Bible has been manipulated by men a long time ago to fit their needs to control people. Many things have been left out.
And yes their are plenty of mediums who deceive and hurt people, or are just plane fake. But there are some who aren't. The ability to "see" the other side and communicate with spirits form that side is a God given ability as much as the other gifts he has given us. What are we supposed to do with them? Deny them? For the ones who have them of course.
Thare e are many people with "special" abilities who help a lot of people. Does that make them bad?
And btw, there are many things in the New Testament that contradict the Old One. Things that Jesus has changed and disagreed with from the O.T.
Anyway...I guess it comes down with personal belief of each individual.
What does the Bible say about certain types of abilities such as those possessed by psychics and mediums—including clairvoyance, telekinesis, and communication with the dead?
Well, the Bible makes it clear that these types of experiences should be avoided. We should not exercise any sort of spiritual abilities outside the realm of what the Bible deems acceptable, nor should we consult with anyone who does so.
If such a thing as a sixth sense or third eye truly exists, it is not of God. Those who claim to practice such abilities are either deceivers, self-deceived, and/or under the power of demonic forces. <!-- s:twisted: -->:twisted:<!-- s:twisted: --> Leviticus 19:31 says, "Do not rely on mediums and psychics, for you will be defiled by them. I, the Lord, am your God." Consulting spiritists is foolish and angers the Lord (2 Chronicles 33:6).
It’s a good thing that these individuals did not live in the Old Testaments days because acting as a medium or psychic was punishable by death in the Old Testament. Exodus 22:18 "Do not allow a sorceress to live.”Leviticus 20:27“A man or woman who is a medium or spiritist among you must be put to death. You are to stone them; their blood will be on their own heads.”Leviticus 19:31"Do not turn to mediums or seek out spiritists, for you will be defiled by them. I am the LORD your God.”Leviticus 20:6“I will set my face against the person who turns to mediums and spiritists to prostitute himself by following them, and I will cut him off from his people.”
The Bible tells us that the Holy Spirit of God has been given to each of us who have received salvation through faith in Christ (Romans 8:9-11). This Spirit will be our guide and teacher of all truth (John 16:13). For Christians, all spiritual leading and communication should come from God, through prayer and revelation from His Word. The only “sixth sense” we need is the Holy Spirit; everything else is counterfeit. But if we allow the Holy Spirit to fill and control us (Ephesians 5:18), we will not be led astray by deceiving spirits.
What about people who claim to talk to Jesus or to God himself? What about all those saints that have talked to spirits of other saints? Dos that mean the church is not following the word of God for making them saints?
I believe in God but I also believe that the Bible has been manipulated by men a long time ago to fit their needs to control people. Many things have been left out.
And yes their are plenty of mediums who deceive and hurt people, or are just plane fake. But there are some who aren't. The ability to "see" the other side and communicate with spirits form that side is a God given ability as much as the other gifts he has given us. What are we supposed to do with them? Deny them? For the ones who have them of course.
Thare e are many people with "special" abilities who help a lot of people. Does that make them bad?
And btw, there are many things in the New Testament that contradict the Old One. Things that Jesus has changed and disagreed with from the O.T.
Anyway...I guess it comes down with personal belief of each individual.
I agree 100%. I think we should just respect each other's personal beliefs and not be so judgmental of others as long as it's not hurting anyone, I don't see the problem.
What does the Bible say about certain types of abilities such as those possessed by psychics and mediums—including clairvoyance, telekinesis, and communication with the dead?
Well, the Bible makes it clear that these types of experiences should be avoided. We should not exercise any sort of spiritual abilities outside the realm of what the Bible deems acceptable, nor should we consult with anyone who does so.
If such a thing as a sixth sense or third eye truly exists, it is not of God. Those who claim to practice such abilities are either deceivers, self-deceived, and/or under the power of demonic forces. <!-- s:twisted: -->:twisted:<!-- s:twisted: --> Leviticus 19:31 says, "Do not rely on mediums and psychics, for you will be defiled by them. I, the Lord, am your God." Consulting spiritists is foolish and angers the Lord (2 Chronicles 33:6).
It’s a good thing that these individuals did not live in the Old Testaments days because acting as a medium or psychic was punishable by death in the Old Testament. Exodus 22:18 "Do not allow a sorceress to live.”Leviticus 20:27“A man or woman who is a medium or spiritist among you must be put to death. You are to stone them; their blood will be on their own heads.”Leviticus 19:31"Do not turn to mediums or seek out spiritists, for you will be defiled by them. I am the LORD your God.”Leviticus 20:6“I will set my face against the person who turns to mediums and spiritists to prostitute himself by following them, and I will cut him off from his people.”
The Bible tells us that the Holy Spirit of God has been given to each of us who have received salvation through faith in Christ (Romans 8:9-11). This Spirit will be our guide and teacher of all truth (John 16:13). For Christians, all spiritual leading and communication should come from God, through prayer and revelation from His Word. The only “sixth sense” we need is the Holy Spirit; everything else is counterfeit. But if we allow the Holy Spirit to fill and control us (Ephesians 5:18), we will not be led astray by deceiving spirits.
Blessings to all up “on the wings of love.”
What about people who claim to talk to Jesus or to God himself? What about all those saints that have talked to spirits of other saints? Dos that mean the church is not following the word of God for making them saints?
I believe in God but I also believe that the Bible has been manipulated by men a long time ago to fit their needs to control people. Many things have been left out.
And yes their are plenty of mediums who deceive and hurt people, or are just plane fake. But there are some who aren't. The ability to "see" the other side and communicate with spirits form that side is a God given ability as much as the other gifts he has given us. What are we supposed to do with them? Deny them? For the ones who have them of course.
Thare e are many people with "special" abilities who help a lot of people. Does that make them bad?
And btw, there are many things in the New Testament that contradict the Old One. Things that Jesus has changed and disagreed with from the O.T.
Anyway...I guess it comes down with personal belief of each individual.
Just because someone are speaking to a saints' spirit doesn't mean you are actually talking to them. These are familiar spirits. God does warn us about talking to spirits in the spirit realm. There is a real spirit realm. I agree that man has done many things to manipulate but God is final on this because the enemy is just as cunning and come as an angel of light posing himself as such that he is a deceiver. We all are able to discern and perceive but just because you have that ability doesn't mean you are always connecting with the right spirit. There are the gifts of discernment and the gifts of discerning spirits. God will allow you to see these things for His good not to continue to consult speaking to spirits. Just know that satan is the god of this age. He still has power but he is not as powerful as God and he can take the Word of God and twist it to deceive anyone, even Christians can be deceived if they are not careful (Matt 24:24), that is how powerful his deception is.
Please share what is in the NT that is contradicting the old.
There is one account of the Apostle Paul (Acts 16:16-19) who confronted a young lady who was in divination and casted that spirit from her as a result he was sent in prison because of confronting her. She was correct that Paul was a man of God but many demons and fallen angels know who is really operating in true spiritual authority.
It’s a good thing that these individuals did not live in the Old Testaments days because acting as a medium or psychic was punishable by death in the Old Testament. Exodus 22:18 "Do not allow a sorceress to live.” Leviticus 20:27 “A man or woman who is a medium or spiritist among you must be put to death. You are to stone them; their blood will be on their own heads.” Leviticus 19:31 "Do not turn to mediums or seek out spiritists, for you will be defiled by them. I am the LORD your God.” Leviticus 20:6 “I will set my face against the person who turns to mediums and spiritists to prostitute himself by following them, and I will cut him off from his people.”
Oh! so much L.O.V.E in those words <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: --> ....yeah, they come from GOD <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: --> sure.....
This is one example of pure manipulation based on fear that happened when the "Bible" was written/ transcripted with the hand of men...men who wanted to control the folks.
God is supposed to be about love, care and giving a second chance. The punishments I´ve just read and marked in black have nothing to do with the concept of God but the evil human. So tragic.
During the middle age era, I would have been burned, that´s for sure <!-- s --><!-- s -->
It’s a good thing that these individuals did not live in the Old Testaments days because acting as a medium or psychic was punishable by death in the Old Testament. Exodus 22:18 "Do not allow a sorceress to live.” Leviticus 20:27 “A man or woman who is a medium or spiritist among you must be put to death. You are to stone them; their blood will be on their own heads.” Leviticus 19:31 "Do not turn to mediums or seek out spiritists, for you will be defiled by them. I am the LORD your God.” Leviticus 20:6 “I will set my face against the person who turns to mediums and spiritists to prostitute himself by following them, and I will cut him off from his people.”
Oh! so much L.O.V.E in those words <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: --> ....yeah, they come from GOD <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: --> sure.....
This is one example of pure manipulation based on fear that happened when the "Bible" was written/ transcripted with the hand of men...men who wanted to control the folks.
God is supposed to be about love, care and giving a second chance. The punishments I´ve just read and marked in black have nothing to do with the concept of God but the evil human. So tragic.
During the middle age era, I would have been burned, that´s for sure <!-- s --><!-- s -->
I agree with you Gema. When you looked to your right, you would have seen me on the stake next to you. At least we would have burned together...maybe we have. <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
I don't want to get too personal when it comes to religion, because I believe it's just between me and God and whatever I believe, do, don't do, etc it's only Him that can judge me ( if he wants to).
My point before was that The God preached and shown by Jesus was one of LOVE and forgiveness; was a God who told that the ones without a sin should cast the first stone and even though he was the only one without sin he not only forgave the woman but embraced and helped her. And that to me stands in great opposition with some of the things in the OT.
Going back to our issue, I want to stress that these people with psychic abilities do exist, they do have these abilities form God and it's not always a matter of them contacting spirits, it's the other way around. And I don't think the gift/ability is the issue but how they use it. And this is the same as with any gift.
Yes, it is true that some bad spirits disguise themselves as good ones but to someone with experience and God in his heart he can tell which is which. Because it's not appearance, it's about the energy, the "feel"...and no matter how much they try you can feel who is good and who isn't.
One more point and I'm done <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D --> The world is not black and white and remember that God created everything. <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) --> He is pure love and pure love is not vindictive, does not hate ; he loves everyone and helps everyone who asks.
I don't want to get too personal when it comes to religion, because I believe it's just between me and God and whatever I believe, do, don't do, etc it's only Him that can judge me ( if he wants to).
My point before was that The God preached and shown by Jesus was one of LOVE and forgiveness; was a God who told that the ones without a sin should cast the first stone and even though he was the only one without sin he not only forgave the woman but embraced and helped her. And that to me stands in great opposition with some of the things in the OT.
Going back to our issue, I want to stress that these people with psychic abilities do exist, they do have these abilities form God and it's not always a matter of them contacting spirits, it's the other way around. And I don't think the gift/ability is the issue but how they use it. And this is the same as with any gift.
Yes, it is true that some bad spirits disguise themselves as good ones but to someone with experience and God in his heart he can tell which is which. Because it's not appearance, it's about the energy, the "feel"...and no matter how much they try you can feel who is good and who isn't.
One more point and I'm done <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D --> The world is not black and white and remember that God created everything. <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) --> He is pure love and pure love is not vindictive, does not hate ; he loves everyone and helps everyone who asks.
Casting a stone! Who is casting a stone at you? You asked a question about how others hear God and those who hear the saints and I only explained that to you. Noone is casting a stone, why would you say this. Nothing I said was casting a stone at all. God isn't going to justify his word with those types of things is what I am saying. Yes, God created everything but he is not evil and he isn't going to compromise His word. He is love. If God stated and warned you in love to be clear of those things then it is love that warns you as well not about casting a stone.
It’s a good thing that these individuals did not live in the Old Testaments days because acting as a medium or psychic was punishable by death in the Old Testament. Exodus 22:18 "Do not allow a sorceress to live.” Leviticus 20:27 “A man or woman who is a medium or spiritist among you must be put to death. You are to stone them; their blood will be on their own heads.” Leviticus 19:31 "Do not turn to mediums or seek out spiritists, for you will be defiled by them. I am the LORD your God.” Leviticus 20:6 “I will set my face against the person who turns to mediums and spiritists to prostitute himself by following them, and I will cut him off from his people.”
Oh! so much L.O.V.E in those words <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: --> ....yeah, they come from GOD <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: --> sure.....
This is one example of pure manipulation based on fear that happened when the "Bible" was written/ transcripted with the hand of men...men who wanted to control the folks.
God is supposed to be about love, care and giving a second chance. The punishments I´ve just read and marked in black have nothing to do with the concept of God but the evil human. So tragic.
During the middle age era, I would have been burned, that´s for sure <!-- s --><!-- s -->
God is love and love is not just letting someone go down the direction of deception and destruction but also telling the truth even when it hurts. Why did he state this in Leviticus? Do you believe He did this just for the sake of doing this? Why did God warn not to seek after these things? Why not seek Him if you want answer to things?
The Celebpychic blog also had an earlier eerie prediction about the safety of little Blanket:
So about two weeks ago I wanted to do a seance type thing in order to contact the spirit of Michael Jackson. To be honest I was/am a bit afraid to do it and I really don't want to exploit Michael anymore than some of his family and the media have already but I had a dream the other night. Being psychic doesn't make you unafraid of the unknown. This is not really a psychic prediction for Michael Jackson's kids its more of a warning.
It seemed as if it took place at his memorial at the staples center and I kept getting images of his children. They just kept on flashing before me and his youngest sons Blanket's name kept on being whispered in my ear. It seems as if Michael is very frightened for Blanket and really hopes he'll be able to handle everything. I also kind of felt as if he was also worried about Prince Michael. His daughter Paris didn't really come up in the dream.
When I am comfortable I might try the seance but for right now I am comfortable with getting messages from Michael Jackson in my dreams.
I READ THIS ON THAT SITE MAKES ME THINK THAT THEY WASTE THEIR TIME:
I feel so bad for the headline but I think she's been one of those celebrities that psychics predict/forecast that will die each and every year but somehow she makes it through and laughs her little heart out on January 1st of each year. I don't believe that Elizabeth Taylor will succumb to anything this year. Taylor is one of those hip and young old folks who exercises their brain to ward off Alzheimer and all those other old age diseases. I cannot see any headlines at all saying that she'll die this year.
Regarding Michael Jackson I don't think she has seen his ghost or anything. I don't believe anyone has seen him. Michael is somewhere on another plane right now where his family and friends can barely feel him around them. Somehow it's as if he's still alive but I do believe he has fully passed over.
Posted by Celebpsychic Sanje at 2:01 AM
During the middle age era, I would have been burned, that´s for sure <!-- s --><!-- s -->
I agree with you Gema. When you looked to your right, you would have seen me on the stake next to you. At least we would have burned together...maybe we have. <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
I'd have been there with you both too.. I've even been told by a psychic that I have the scars of being nailed on my hands.. deep palms... but, believe what you will..
The stupidity of persecuting psychics is proven when you count how many so called visions occur in the bible.. and to think that man could only receive visions from the Creator before the Jesus Christ era is ridiculous. Of course people can still receive visions from The Creator. More spiritually aware people are just less fearing of discussing it now that the Christian Religion isn't killing us for it.
What does the Bible say about certain types of abilities such as those possessed by psychics and mediums—including clairvoyance, telekinesis, and communication with the dead?
Well, the Bible makes it clear that these types of experiences should be avoided. We should not exercise any sort of spiritual abilities outside the realm of what the Bible deems acceptable, nor should we consult with anyone who does so.
If such a thing as a sixth sense or third eye truly exists, it is not of God. Those who claim to practice such abilities are either deceivers, self-deceived, and/or under the power of demonic forces. <!-- s:twisted: -->:twisted:<!-- s:twisted: --> Leviticus 19:31 says, "Do not rely on mediums and psychics, for you will be defiled by them. I, the Lord, am your God." Consulting spiritists is foolish and angers the Lord (2 Chronicles 33:6).
It’s a good thing that these individuals did not live in the Old Testaments days because acting as a medium or psychic was punishable by death in the Old Testament. Exodus 22:18 "Do not allow a sorceress to live.”Leviticus 20:27“A man or woman who is a medium or spiritist among you must be put to death. You are to stone them; their blood will be on their own heads.”Leviticus 19:31"Do not turn to mediums or seek out spiritists, for you will be defiled by them. I am the LORD your God.”Leviticus 20:6“I will set my face against the person who turns to mediums and spiritists to prostitute himself by following them, and I will cut him off from his people.”
The Bible tells us that the Holy Spirit of God has been given to each of us who have received salvation through faith in Christ (Romans 8:9-11). This Spirit will be our guide and teacher of all truth (John 16:13). For Christians, all spiritual leading and communication should come from God, through prayer and revelation from His Word. The only “sixth sense” we need is the Holy Spirit; everything else is counterfeit. But if we allow the Holy Spirit to fill and control us (Ephesians 5:18), we will not be led astray by deceiving spirits.
What does the Bible say about certain types of abilities such as those possessed by psychics and mediums—including clairvoyance, telekinesis, and communication with the dead?
Well, the Bible makes it clear that these types of experiences should be avoided. We should not exercise any sort of spiritual abilities outside the realm of what the Bible deems acceptable, nor should we consult with anyone who does so.
If such a thing as a sixth sense or third eye truly exists, it is not of God. Those who claim to practice such abilities are either deceivers, self-deceived, and/or under the power of demonic forces. <!-- s:twisted: -->:twisted:<!-- s:twisted: --> Leviticus 19:31 says, "Do not rely on mediums and psychics, for you will be defiled by them. I, the Lord, am your God." Consulting spiritists is foolish and angers the Lord (2 Chronicles 33:6).
It’s a good thing that these individuals did not live in the Old Testaments days because acting as a medium or psychic was punishable by death in the Old Testament. Exodus 22:18 "Do not allow a sorceress to live.”Leviticus 20:27“A man or woman who is a medium or spiritist among you must be put to death. You are to stone them; their blood will be on their own heads.”Leviticus 19:31"Do not turn to mediums or seek out spiritists, for you will be defiled by them. I am the LORD your God.”Leviticus 20:6“I will set my face against the person who turns to mediums and spiritists to prostitute himself by following them, and I will cut him off from his people.”
The Bible tells us that the Holy Spirit of God has been given to each of us who have received salvation through faith in Christ (Romans 8:9-11). This Spirit will be our guide and teacher of all truth (John 16:13). For Christians, all spiritual leading and communication should come from God, through prayer and revelation from His Word. The only “sixth sense” we need is the Holy Spirit; everything else is counterfeit. But if we allow the Holy Spirit to fill and control us (Ephesians 5:18), we will not be led astray by deceiving spirits.
Are you serious??? Do you believe in this? And think it´s ok?
I would also like to question her view on intuition... since intuition fails into the illogical psychic box, rather than the factual logical box... and belief is an intuition, as is faith... as is believing that Jesus was born to a virgin... as is believing Michael to be alive...
So, unless she has some factual evidence that he is alive... then, we're all here on intuition.. <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
I don't want to get too personal when it comes to religion, because I believe it's just between me and God and whatever I believe, do, don't do, etc it's only Him that can judge me ( if he wants to).
My point before was that The God preached and shown by Jesus was one of LOVE and forgiveness; was a God who told that the ones without a sin should cast the first stone and even though he was the only one without sin he not only forgave the woman but embraced and helped her. And that to me stands in great opposition with some of the things in the OT.
Going back to our issue, I want to stress that these people with psychic abilities do exist, they do have these abilities form God and it's not always a matter of them contacting spirits, it's the other way around. And I don't think the gift/ability is the issue but how they use it. And this is the same as with any gift.
Yes, it is true that some bad spirits disguise themselves as good ones but to someone with experience and God in his heart he can tell which is which. Because it's not appearance, it's about the energy, the "feel"...and no matter how much they try you can feel who is good and who isn't.
One more point and I'm done <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D --> The world is not black and white and remember that God created everything. <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) --> He is pure love and pure love is not vindictive, does not hate ; he loves everyone and helps everyone who asks.
Casting a stone! Who is casting a stone at you? You asked a question about how others hear God and those who hear the saints and I only explained that to you. Noone is casting a stone, why would you say this. Nothing I said was casting a stone at all. God isn't going to justify his word with those types of things is what I am saying. Yes, God created everything but he is not evil and he isn't going to compromise His word. He is love. If God stated and warned you in love to be clear of those things then it is love that warns you as well not about casting a stone.
Hun I didn't say you were casting a stone at me. Pls don't understand that. This is not what I meant. I wasn;t talking about me but about things in general. the casting the stone part was a parallel between the OT where they say we should "stone" the ones who speak with spirits and the NT were there's that very telling story of Jesus and stoning the sinner woman. That's what I meant.
I was tired last night when I wrote that and quite upset so I guess I wasn't focused enough and getting the words out right. I apologize.
Religion and belief is a personal thing, between each individual and God and talking about this subject can be very touchy. And that I is why I said that; to make it clear that this was not about personal belief and who's right and wrong, but about interpreting what's in the Bible about psychics.
Either way, whatever one chooses o belief, one thing is clear. "Judge and you shall be judged" And this is true for everyone. That's why I think we should be careful when passing a judgment ( if it "must" be done) of those people or on anyone for that matter. One thing I understood about God is that he loves all of us and understand all of us. Not agree but understand. And so should we. Whenever I don;t understand someone and have an urge to "stone" him I try to remember that God loves him too and understands him and supports him as much as he does me.
That's what it really comes down to doesn;t it? LOVE! Where there is LOVE there is understanding, there is compassion, modesty, humbleness and forgiveness. There are 7 billion versions of the truth on this Earth and who's to say who's right and who's wrong?!
What does the Bible say about certain types of abilities such as those possessed by psychics and mediums—including clairvoyance, telekinesis, and communication with the dead?
Well, the Bible makes it clear that these types of experiences should be avoided. We should not exercise any sort of spiritual abilities outside the realm of what the Bible deems acceptable, nor should we consult with anyone who does so.
If such a thing as a sixth sense or third eye truly exists, it is not of God. Those who claim to practice such abilities are either deceivers, self-deceived, and/or under the power of demonic forces. <!-- s:twisted: -->:twisted:<!-- s:twisted: --> Leviticus 19:31 says, "Do not rely on mediums and psychics, for you will be defiled by them. I, the Lord, am your God." Consulting spiritists is foolish and angers the Lord (2 Chronicles 33:6).
It’s a good thing that these individuals did not live in the Old Testaments days because acting as a medium or psychic was punishable by death in the Old Testament. Exodus 22:18 "Do not allow a sorceress to live.”Leviticus 20:27“A man or woman who is a medium or spiritist among you must be put to death. You are to stone them; their blood will be on their own heads.”Leviticus 19:31"Do not turn to mediums or seek out spiritists, for you will be defiled by them. I am the LORD your God.”Leviticus 20:6“I will set my face against the person who turns to mediums and spiritists to prostitute himself by following them, and I will cut him off from his people.”
The Bible tells us that the Holy Spirit of God has been given to each of us who have received salvation through faith in Christ (Romans 8:9-11). This Spirit will be our guide and teacher of all truth (John 16:13). For Christians, all spiritual leading and communication should come from God, through prayer and revelation from His Word. The only “sixth sense” we need is the Holy Spirit; everything else is counterfeit. But if we allow the Holy Spirit to fill and control us (Ephesians 5:18), we will not be led astray by deceiving spirits.
Are you serious??? Do you believe in this? And think it´s ok?
I would also like to question her view on intuition... since intuition fails into the illogical psychic box, rather than the factual logical box... and belief is an intuition, as is faith... as is believing that Jesus was born to a virgin... as is believing Michael to be alive...
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I would also like to question her view on intuition... since intuition fails into the illogical psychic box, rather than the factual logical box... and belief is an intuition, as is faith... as is believing that Jesus was born to a virgin... as is believing Michael to be alive...
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Women are stoned to death in some countries now a days for crimes they did not commit (like being raped by a man....)
Evolution means also to take from the Bible/ Corán or other book what is "normal" and acceptable for heavens sake!
Control by fear can last that much.
Regarding Michael Jackson I don't think she has seen his ghost or anything. I don't believe anyone has seen him. Michael is somewhere on another plane right now where his family and friends can barely feel him around them. Somehow it's as if he's still alive but I do believe he has fully passed over.
Posted by Celebpsychic Sanje at 2:01 AM
Can that plane be a coma? like floating in the moon?
Can that plane be a coma? like floating in the moon?
Though I highly doubt the Coma Theory in MJ's case I have read some things on this.
Some people do not have any memories of being in the coma. They report no conscious experiences at all while comatose.
Other people report having experienced an Out of Body Experience (OBE's), where they float above their body and witness things that occurred while they were in the coma. They are able to describe hospital staff, talk about interventions that took place, or what was said by medical staff, family and/or friends while they were in the coma.
A third group of people reports having experienced a Near Death Experience (NDE's), in which the travel through a tunnel with a light at the end or simply a light, and they go to another place. They don't report seeing anything that happened around their body after entering the tunnel and/or light. They may also report seeing relatives and/or friends who have previously died. People who experience NDE's often also report a sense of peace, no pain etc.
An OBE triggered by coma described in the Lancet medical journal
The following account was published in the Lancet, a British medical journal. It's the latest in a long series of efforts to either document or debunk the existence of OBE's, something that for the most part has remained in the realm of the paranormal.
A man who had collapsed in a meadow was brought to a hospital, unconscious and with no pulse or brain activity. Doctors began artificial respiration, heart massage and defibrillation.
A nurse trying to feed a tube down his throat saw that he wore dentures and removed them. The patient was moved to the intensive care unit.
A week later, the nurse saw the man again. He immediately recognized the nurse as the person who had removed his dentures and also remembered other details of what had happened while he was in a deep coma. He said he had perceived the events from above the hospital bed and watched doctors' efforts to save his life.
Researchers say the evidence supports the validity of NDEs and suggests scientists should rethink theories on one of the ultimate medical mysteries: the nature of human consciousness.
Most neuroscientists believe consciousness is a byproduct of the physical brain, that mind arises from matter. But if OBE's & NDEs are really what those who experience them say they are, does that mean people can be conscious of events around them even when they're physically unconscious, when their brains show no signs of electrical activity? How can consciousness be independent of brain function? This is the question.
"Brain chemistry does not explain these phenomena," Dr. Bruce Greyson said. "I don't know what the explanation is, but our current understanding of brain chemistry falls short.
Woman's testimony about experiencing an NDE while in a coma
Many people ask me what was the first thing I thought or felt when I came out of my coma, about three weeks after the accident. I could feel Christ's love and compassion for me and I believe the prayers of many for me made him tune into me personally, and led to my incredible experience with Christ in that heavenly garden. I now no longer hope that there is a heaven and that Christ's life experience and atonement are real. Now I know! Just as I know that I gave birth to all five of my children and tangibly held them in my arms.
My testimony of Christ burns within me. Now, when I think of him, I have a visual memory of him looking at me there in that heavenly garden. I now have the time to focus on spiritual things daily because I can no longer work as a nurse. I thank God I'm able to communicate with others instead of being severely brain injured and unable to communicate as was expected. All the doctors say my recovery, to the extent I function now, is a miracle!
I had a near-death experience after I'd been seriously injured in a near fatal automobile accident which caused me to stop breathing necessitating the use of a ventilator and an accompanying coma. Since coming out of my coma I've had vivid remembrances of the time I was on the other side of veil in a heavenly realm.
There was a bright mist permeating everything. The light was everywhere, it even passed through me! I can remember looking at my hand and the light passed through it. I could see my hand was transparent, but this did not surprise me. As I walked with this heavenly personage his countenance shone forth with such a brightness that I can't describe. I knew this heavenly personage was Jesus because I recognized him as a familiar friend. He didn't announce who he was because this wasn't necessary.
I remember walking with Jesus, but we weren't walking in the physical sense, the best way I can describe our walking was that we were walking in mid-air, floating a bar spare above the ground of this beautiful garden we were walking in. Everything in this garden had an overall whiteness and brightness about it. I was seeing the bright green of the plants. I could see the water, and a bright glow surrounded it and the burbling of this water had a musical sound to it, the water fairly sang! The water was so sparkling clear! I remember wanting to bend over and take a drink from the stream that was running through this garden we were walking thru.
When I tried to scoop up water with my hands the water ran through my hands, literally, and it wasn't wet! Jesus stopped walking and looked at me while I was bent over trying to drink this water. I could feel his eyes on me. My thirst for this water even though I wasn't able to put to my lips and drink it was gone at that moment! I can't describe the sensation I felt when the water was running through my hands, but I did feel something. I felt this overwhelming desire to experience everything about this garden.
When I and the heavenly being talked it wasn't with our mouths, but I knew we were communicating, his countenance fairly shone, and how he felt about me shone forth about him. He simply exuded love and concern and caring for me just by standing there. The feeling of peace I felt was indescribable!
I was given the choice that I could either come back to this Earth and live more life or stay with him there in Heaven. We both knew that returning to this Earth would be a struggle because I'd told him that I wanted to return to this Earth if I could help myself and others. He knew that I didn't want to live more life on this Earth if life meant being trapped in unresponsive body, unable to communicate. The look of love in his eyes filled me with joy then, and as I remember that feeling of joy I felt then I'm filled me with joy anew.
I don't know how I did this, but then I remember that I was in a hospital room looking at my husband holding my hand and talking to me. Only I wasn't seeing from the vantage point thru my own eyes. I recognized that was my body, but I was outside of it, looking at my body. As I viewed this scene I felt a strong desire that I wanted to return to this Earth and live more life with my husband, if I could communicate with him and help him. I was understood and the desires of my heart were heard.
The next thing I remember was being trapped in my body while others cared for my physical needs. I can remember that I could tell what the nurses were thinking about me by how they touched me. I knew if they thought I was going to live or not through their touch. I knew if they thought they were caring for a basically dead person whose spirit wasn't there. I remember trying to scream out, "Look! I'm alive! I'm in here! I'm going to live!" I relaxed and trusted that person much more if I knew that they knew they were caring for a living person. I obviously could read their thoughts!
While in my spirit body I remember communicating telepathically, this is how I and Jesus communicated in that heavenly garden. It was so easy, it required no effort, you thought the thoughts and they were communicated. Speaking through my physical mouth is so difficult, and frustrating, and sometimes you're misunderstood, and they get the wrong meaning of what you're trying to say. The phrase the world uses of being soul mates is referring to the communication between two souls, spirit to spirit communication.
To communicate on a spiritual level is a very profound. I believe I've had this spiritual gift ever since my near-death experience, and it has profoundly blesses my life as I use it. I feel this great need to communicate on a spiritual level with others, and one of the only ways I'm able to communicate in this way is through writing. I have to prepare myself mentally to be able communicate on a spiritual level. You have the time to do this as you are writing in your home, without distractions. We are what we think. I find trivial thoughts distracting, I rarely watch TV and then only if it stimulates good thoughts. I listen to different music now, and gravitate towards the ethereal.
My near-death experience has changed me, I desire righteousness and I abhor evil. I'm actually quite thankful for my accident, even though it has changed my physical abilities adversely, at the same time my spiritual abilities have blossomed enormously. Ever since I woke up from my coma I've had an attitude of peaceful hopefulness. I believe the reason why I still live, one of the reasons I came back to this Earth to live is because I'm supposed to testify that the spirit world is real and beautiful, and that Jesus is who he says he is, he is our brother, and we knew him well as a friendly brother in the spirit world. This knowledge, this belief, affects every facet of my life, and my desire to communicate this to others is why I am here on Earth now relating this experience to all who will listen. http://www.near-death.com/experiences/triggers13.html
Many people have been reporting experiencing dreams of Michael, visions, telepathic communication etc. This is not the same as what these people in the above stories are describing. Those who have passed over are on another plane, so when these psychics are trying to reach Michael on the spiritual plane, they are unsuccessful because he isn't there. Some people whom Michael may have connected with believe he is dead, so their interpretation of any messages from him, is being influenced by their own beliefs that he has passed. Others who are claiming psychic communication with him as a "spirit", in my opinion, are either lying, being deceived themselves or are simply disillusion.
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I agree with you Gema. When you looked to your right, you would have seen me on the stake next to you. At least we would have burned together...maybe we have. <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
I'd have been there with you both too.. I've even been told by a psychic that I have the scars of being nailed on my hands.. deep palms... but, believe what you will..
The stupidity of persecuting psychics is proven when you count how many so called visions occur in the bible.. and to think that man could only receive visions from the Creator before the Jesus Christ era is ridiculous. Of course people can still receive visions from The Creator. More spiritually aware people are just less fearing of discussing it now that the Christian Religion isn't killing us for it.
Can that plane be a coma? like floating in the moon?
Though I highly doubt the Coma Theory in MJ's case I have read some things on this.
Some people do not have any memories of being in the coma. They report no conscious experiences at all while comatose.
Other people report having experienced an Out of Body Experience (OBE's), where they float above their body and witness things that occurred while they were in the coma. They are able to describe hospital staff, talk about interventions that took place, or what was said by medical staff, family and/or friends while they were in the coma.
A third group of people reports having experienced a Near Death Experience (NDE's), in which the travel through a tunnel with a light at the end or simply a light, and they go to another place. They don't report seeing anything that happened around their body after entering the tunnel and/or light. They may also report seeing relatives and/or friends who have previously died. People who experience NDE's often also report a sense of peace, no pain etc.
An OBE triggered by coma described in the Lancet medical journal
The following account was published in the Lancet, a British medical journal. It's the latest in a long series of efforts to either document or debunk the existence of OBE's, something that for the most part has remained in the realm of the paranormal.
A man who had collapsed in a meadow was brought to a hospital, unconscious and with no pulse or brain activity. Doctors began artificial respiration, heart massage and defibrillation.
A nurse trying to feed a tube down his throat saw that he wore dentures and removed them. The patient was moved to the intensive care unit.
A week later, the nurse saw the man again. He immediately recognized the nurse as the person who had removed his dentures and also remembered other details of what had happened while he was in a deep coma. He said he had perceived the events from above the hospital bed and watched doctors' efforts to save his life.
Researchers say the evidence supports the validity of NDEs and suggests scientists should rethink theories on one of the ultimate medical mysteries: the nature of human consciousness.
Most neuroscientists believe consciousness is a byproduct of the physical brain, that mind arises from matter. But if OBE's & NDEs are really what those who experience them say they are, does that mean people can be conscious of events around them even when they're physically unconscious, when their brains show no signs of electrical activity? How can consciousness be independent of brain function? This is the question.
"Brain chemistry does not explain these phenomena," Dr. Bruce Greyson said. "I don't know what the explanation is, but our current understanding of brain chemistry falls short.
Woman's testimony about experiencing an NDE while in a coma
Many people ask me what was the first thing I thought or felt when I came out of my coma, about three weeks after the accident. I could feel Christ's love and compassion for me and I believe the prayers of many for me made him tune into me personally, and led to my incredible experience with Christ in that heavenly garden. I now no longer hope that there is a heaven and that Christ's life experience and atonement are real. Now I know! Just as I know that I gave birth to all five of my children and tangibly held them in my arms.
My testimony of Christ burns within me. Now, when I think of him, I have a visual memory of him looking at me there in that heavenly garden. I now have the time to focus on spiritual things daily because I can no longer work as a nurse. I thank God I'm able to communicate with others instead of being severely brain injured and unable to communicate as was expected. All the doctors say my recovery, to the extent I function now, is a miracle!
I had a near-death experience after I'd been seriously injured in a near fatal automobile accident which caused me to stop breathing necessitating the use of a ventilator and an accompanying coma. Since coming out of my coma I've had vivid remembrances of the time I was on the other side of veil in a heavenly realm.
There was a bright mist permeating everything. The light was everywhere, it even passed through me! I can remember looking at my hand and the light passed through it. I could see my hand was transparent, but this did not surprise me. As I walked with this heavenly personage his countenance shone forth with such a brightness that I can't describe. I knew this heavenly personage was Jesus because I recognized him as a familiar friend. He didn't announce who he was because this wasn't necessary.
I remember walking with Jesus, but we weren't walking in the physical sense, the best way I can describe our walking was that we were walking in mid-air, floating a bar spare above the ground of this beautiful garden we were walking in. Everything in this garden had an overall whiteness and brightness about it. I was seeing the bright green of the plants. I could see the water, and a bright glow surrounded it and the burbling of this water had a musical sound to it, the water fairly sang! The water was so sparkling clear! I remember wanting to bend over and take a drink from the stream that was running through this garden we were walking thru.
When I tried to scoop up water with my hands the water ran through my hands, literally, and it wasn't wet! Jesus stopped walking and looked at me while I was bent over trying to drink this water. I could feel his eyes on me. My thirst for this water even though I wasn't able to put to my lips and drink it was gone at that moment! I can't describe the sensation I felt when the water was running through my hands, but I did feel something. I felt this overwhelming desire to experience everything about this garden.
When I and the heavenly being talked it wasn't with our mouths, but I knew we were communicating, his countenance fairly shone, and how he felt about me shone forth about him. He simply exuded love and concern and caring for me just by standing there. The feeling of peace I felt was indescribable!
I was given the choice that I could either come back to this Earth and live more life or stay with him there in Heaven. We both knew that returning to this Earth would be a struggle because I'd told him that I wanted to return to this Earth if I could help myself and others. He knew that I didn't want to live more life on this Earth if life meant being trapped in unresponsive body, unable to communicate. The look of love in his eyes filled me with joy then, and as I remember that feeling of joy I felt then I'm filled me with joy anew.
I don't know how I did this, but then I remember that I was in a hospital room looking at my husband holding my hand and talking to me. Only I wasn't seeing from the vantage point thru my own eyes. I recognized that was my body, but I was outside of it, looking at my body. As I viewed this scene I felt a strong desire that I wanted to return to this Earth and live more life with my husband, if I could communicate with him and help him. I was understood and the desires of my heart were heard.
The next thing I remember was being trapped in my body while others cared for my physical needs. I can remember that I could tell what the nurses were thinking about me by how they touched me. I knew if they thought I was going to live or not through their touch. I knew if they thought they were caring for a basically dead person whose spirit wasn't there. I remember trying to scream out, "Look! I'm alive! I'm in here! I'm going to live!" I relaxed and trusted that person much more if I knew that they knew they were caring for a living person. I obviously could read their thoughts!
While in my spirit body I remember communicating telepathically, this is how I and Jesus communicated in that heavenly garden. It was so easy, it required no effort, you thought the thoughts and they were communicated. Speaking through my physical mouth is so difficult, and frustrating, and sometimes you're misunderstood, and they get the wrong meaning of what you're trying to say. The phrase the world uses of being soul mates is referring to the communication between two souls, spirit to spirit communication.
To communicate on a spiritual level is a very profound. I believe I've had this spiritual gift ever since my near-death experience, and it has profoundly blesses my life as I use it. I feel this great need to communicate on a spiritual level with others, and one of the only ways I'm able to communicate in this way is through writing. I have to prepare myself mentally to be able communicate on a spiritual level. You have the time to do this as you are writing in your home, without distractions. We are what we think. I find trivial thoughts distracting, I rarely watch TV and then only if it stimulates good thoughts. I listen to different music now, and gravitate towards the ethereal.
My near-death experience has changed me, I desire righteousness and I abhor evil. I'm actually quite thankful for my accident, even though it has changed my physical abilities adversely, at the same time my spiritual abilities have blossomed enormously. Ever since I woke up from my coma I've had an attitude of peaceful hopefulness. I believe the reason why I still live, one of the reasons I came back to this Earth to live is because I'm supposed to testify that the spirit world is real and beautiful, and that Jesus is who he says he is, he is our brother, and we knew him well as a friendly brother in the spirit world. This knowledge, this belief, affects every facet of my life, and my desire to communicate this to others is why I am here on Earth now relating this experience to all who will listen. http://www.near-death.com/experiences/triggers13.html
Many people have been reporting experiencing dreams of Michael, visions, telepathic communication etc. This is not the same as what these people in the above stories are describing. Those who have passed over are on another plane, so when these psychics are trying to reach Michael on the spiritual plane, they are unsuccessful because he isn't there. Some people whom Michael may have connected with believe he is dead, so their interpretation of any messages from him, is being influenced by their own beliefs that he has passed. Others who are claiming psychic communication with him as a "spirit", in my opinion, are either lying, being deceived themselves or are simply disillusion.
Thanks for sharing this info about the NDE. The spiritual realm is real. This story sounds very familiar to me listening on a tv show one late night but so many people have experience this. Her experience with knowing who Christ was is no different because many people who had this had met people and knew them not ever seeing them in the natural realm before.
Many people have been reporting experiencing dreams of Michael, visions, telepathic communication etc. This is not the same as what these people in the above stories are describing. Those who have passed over are on another plane, so when these psychics are trying to reach Michael on the spiritual plane, they are unsuccessful because he isn't there. Some people whom Michael may have connected with believe he is dead, so their interpretation of any messages from him, is being influenced by their own beliefs that he has passed. Others who are claiming psychic communication with him as a "spirit", in my opinion, are either lying, being deceived themselves or are simply disillusion.
You mention that people communicating with his spirit are being deceived by themselves. What if they don´t know how to make the difference between an alive person and a deceased one? This question has been bothering me since always.
Some mediums said he passed yet many others can´t say he passed and are dubious.
What I really think of all is that MJ was an illuminated soul with an incredible energy and for many people it looks unreal that he is gone (if he is dead) and somehow can say "Can you feel it".
I would really like to see what James Van Praagh has to say about it, or Lisa Williams. Those 2 mediums have high intuition and have not manifested yet about MJ I believe.
We are on a hoax site so the chance of MJ being alive is 50%-50%.
You mention that people communicating with his spirit are being deceived by themselves. What if they don´t know how to make the difference between an alive person and a deceased one? This question has been bothering me since always.
Some mediums said he passed yet many others can´t say he passed and are dubious.
What I really think of all is that MJ was an illuminated soul with an incredible energy and for many people it looks unreal that he is gone (if he is dead) and somehow can say "Can you feel it".
I would really like to see what James Van Praagh has to say about it, or Lisa Williams. Those 2 mediums have high intuition and have not manifested yet about MJ I believe.
We are on a hoax site so the chance of MJ being alive is 50%-50%.
My reference was to the woman on youtube who appears actually mentally ill and not a psychic at all. Also psychics have to interpret what the see, hear, and/or feel and this can be clouded by one's own perceptions of the individual they may or may not have connected to. If a psychic believes that the person they have connected with is passed over, than their interpretation of any messages will reflect that idea. It doesn't matter who the psychic is, there is always an interpretation, a perception, how much the psychic is personally emotionally invested in this person, that come into play. There are also those who really do not have developed psychic abilities, who deceive people for financial gain etc. I also did say in my opinion, which doesn't make it fact, of course.
We are on a hoax site and it is your opinion only, that the chances Michael is alive are 50-50. My opinion on the other hand is that Michael is 100% alive physically. It really is your own perception, belief, faith etc. and how you have have weighed all the information that has been received over the last 1+ year.
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"For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."What does the Bible say about certain types of abilities such as those possessed by psychics and mediums—including clairvoyance, telekinesis, and communication with the dead?
Well, the Bible makes it clear that these types of experiences should be avoided. We should not exercise any sort of spiritual abilities outside the realm of what the Bible deems acceptable, nor should we consult with anyone who does so.
If such a thing as a sixth sense or third eye truly exists, it is not of God. Those who claim to practice such abilities are either deceivers, self-deceived, and/or under the power of demonic forces. <!-- s:twisted: -->:twisted:<!-- s:twisted: --> Leviticus 19:31 says, "Do not rely on mediums and psychics, for you will be defiled by them. I, the Lord, am your God." Consulting spiritists is foolish and angers the Lord (2 Chronicles 33:6).
It’s a good thing that these individuals did not live in the Old Testaments days because acting as a medium or psychic was punishable by death in the Old Testament. Exodus 22:18 "Do not allow a sorceress to live.” Leviticus 20:27 “A man or woman who is a medium or spiritist among you must be put to death. You are to stone them; their blood will be on their own heads.” Leviticus 19:31 "Do not turn to mediums or seek out spiritists, for you will be defiled by them. I am the LORD your God.” Leviticus 20:6 “I will set my face against the person who turns to mediums and spiritists to prostitute himself by following them, and I will cut him off from his people.”
The Bible tells us that the Holy Spirit of God has been given to each of us who have received salvation through faith in Christ (Romans 8:9-11). This Spirit will be our guide and teacher of all truth (John 16:13). For Christians, all spiritual leading and communication should come from God, through prayer and revelation from His Word. The only “sixth sense” we need is the Holy Spirit; everything else is counterfeit. But if we allow the Holy Spirit to fill and control us (Ephesians 5:18), we will not be led astray by deceiving spirits.
Blessings to all up “on the wings of love.”
What about people who claim to talk to Jesus or to God himself? What about all those saints that have talked to spirits of other saints? Dos that mean the church is not following the word of God for making them saints?
I believe in God but I also believe that the Bible has been manipulated by men a long time ago to fit their needs to control people. Many things have been left out.
And yes their are plenty of mediums who deceive and hurt people, or are just plane fake. But there are some who aren't. The ability to "see" the other side and communicate with spirits form that side is a God given ability as much as the other gifts he has given us. What are we supposed to do with them? Deny them? For the ones who have them of course.
Thare e are many people with "special" abilities who help a lot of people. Does that make them bad?
And btw, there are many things in the New Testament that contradict the Old One. Things that Jesus has changed and disagreed with from the O.T.
Anyway...I guess it comes down with personal belief of each individual.
I agree.
I agree 100%. I think we should just respect each other's personal beliefs and not be so judgmental of others as long as it's not hurting anyone, I don't see the problem.
Just because someone are speaking to a saints' spirit doesn't mean you are actually talking to them. These are familiar spirits. God does warn us about talking to spirits in the spirit realm. There is a real spirit realm. I agree that man has done many things to manipulate but God is final on this because the enemy is just as cunning and come as an angel of light posing himself as such that he is a deceiver. We all are able to discern and perceive but just because you have that ability doesn't mean you are always connecting with the right spirit. There are the gifts of discernment and the gifts of discerning spirits. God will allow you to see these things for His good not to continue to consult speaking to spirits. Just know that satan is the god of this age. He still has power but he is not as powerful as God and he can take the Word of God and twist it to deceive anyone, even Christians can be deceived if they are not careful (Matt 24:24), that is how powerful his deception is.
Please share what is in the NT that is contradicting the old.
There is one account of the Apostle Paul (Acts 16:16-19) who confronted a young lady who was in divination and casted that spirit from her as a result he was sent in prison because of confronting her. She was correct that Paul was a man of God but many demons and fallen angels know who is really operating in true spiritual authority.
Oh! so much L.O.V.E in those words <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: --> ....yeah, they come from GOD <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: --> sure.....
This is one example of pure manipulation based on fear that happened when the "Bible" was written/ transcripted with the hand of men...men who wanted to control the folks.
God is supposed to be about love, care and giving a second chance. The punishments I´ve just read and marked in black have nothing to do with the concept of God but the evil human. So tragic.
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I agree with you Gema. When you looked to your right, you would have seen me on the stake next to you. At least we would have burned together...maybe we have. <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
My point before was that The God preached and shown by Jesus was one of LOVE and forgiveness; was a God who told that the ones without a sin should cast the first stone and even though he was the only one without sin he not only forgave the woman but embraced and helped her. And that to me stands in great opposition with some of the things in the OT.
Going back to our issue, I want to stress that these people with psychic abilities do exist, they do have these abilities form God and it's not always a matter of them contacting spirits, it's the other way around. And I don't think the gift/ability is the issue but how they use it. And this is the same as with any gift.
Yes, it is true that some bad spirits disguise themselves as good ones but to someone with experience and God in his heart he can tell which is which. Because it's not appearance, it's about the energy, the "feel"...and no matter how much they try you can feel who is good and who isn't.
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Casting a stone! Who is casting a stone at you? You asked a question about how others hear God and those who hear the saints and I only explained that to you. Noone is casting a stone, why would you say this. Nothing I said was casting a stone at all. God isn't going to justify his word with those types of things is what I am saying. Yes, God created everything but he is not evil and he isn't going to compromise His word. He is love. If God stated and warned you in love to be clear of those things then it is love that warns you as well not about casting a stone.
God is love and love is not just letting someone go down the direction of deception and destruction but also telling the truth even when it hurts. Why did he state this in Leviticus? Do you believe He did this just for the sake of doing this? Why did God warn not to seek after these things? Why not seek Him if you want answer to things?
I READ THIS ON THAT SITE MAKES ME THINK THAT THEY WASTE THEIR TIME:
I feel so bad for the headline but I think she's been one of those celebrities that psychics predict/forecast that will die each and every year but somehow she makes it through and laughs her little heart out on January 1st of each year. I don't believe that Elizabeth Taylor will succumb to anything this year. Taylor is one of those hip and young old folks who exercises their brain to ward off Alzheimer and all those other old age diseases. I cannot see any headlines at all saying that she'll die this year.
Regarding Michael Jackson I don't think she has seen his ghost or anything. I don't believe anyone has seen him. Michael is somewhere on another plane right now where his family and friends can barely feel him around them. Somehow it's as if he's still alive but I do believe he has fully passed over.
Posted by Celebpsychic Sanje at 2:01 AM
I'd have been there with you both too.. I've even been told by a psychic that I have the scars of being nailed on my hands.. deep palms... but, believe what you will..
The stupidity of persecuting psychics is proven when you count how many so called visions occur in the bible.. and to think that man could only receive visions from the Creator before the Jesus Christ era is ridiculous. Of course people can still receive visions from The Creator. More spiritually aware people are just less fearing of discussing it now that the Christian Religion isn't killing us for it.
And, maybe Jesus Christ was mentally unstable.
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Are you serious??? Do you believe in this? And think it´s ok?
I would also like to question her view on intuition... since intuition fails into the illogical psychic box, rather than the factual logical box... and belief is an intuition, as is faith... as is believing that Jesus was born to a virgin... as is believing Michael to be alive...
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Hun I didn't say you were casting a stone at me. Pls don't understand that. This is not what I meant. I wasn;t talking about me but about things in general. the casting the stone part was a parallel between the OT where they say we should "stone" the ones who speak with spirits and the NT were there's that very telling story of Jesus and stoning the sinner woman. That's what I meant.
I was tired last night when I wrote that and quite upset so I guess I wasn't focused enough and getting the words out right. I apologize.
Religion and belief is a personal thing, between each individual and God and talking about this subject can be very touchy. And that I is why I said that; to make it clear that this was not about personal belief and who's right and wrong, but about interpreting what's in the Bible about psychics.
Either way, whatever one chooses o belief, one thing is clear. "Judge and you shall be judged" And this is true for everyone. That's why I think we should be careful when passing a judgment ( if it "must" be done) of those people or on anyone for that matter. One thing I understood about God is that he loves all of us and understand all of us. Not agree but understand. And so should we. Whenever I don;t understand someone and have an urge to "stone" him I try to remember that God loves him too and understands him and supports him as much as he does me.
That's what it really comes down to doesn;t it? LOVE! Where there is LOVE there is understanding, there is compassion, modesty, humbleness and forgiveness. There are 7 billion versions of the truth on this Earth and who's to say who's right and who's wrong?!
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Evolution means also to take from the Bible/ Corán or other book what is "normal" and acceptable for heavens sake!
Control by fear can last that much.
Can that plane be a coma? like floating in the moon?
Though I highly doubt the Coma Theory in MJ's case I have read some things on this.
Some people do not have any memories of being in the coma. They report no conscious experiences at all while comatose.
Other people report having experienced an Out of Body Experience (OBE's), where they float above their body and witness things that occurred while they were in the coma. They are able to describe hospital staff, talk about interventions that took place, or what was said by medical staff, family and/or friends while they were in the coma.
A third group of people reports having experienced a Near Death Experience (NDE's), in which the travel through a tunnel with a light at the end or simply a light, and they go to another place. They don't report seeing anything that happened around their body after entering the tunnel and/or light. They may also report seeing relatives and/or friends who have previously died. People who experience NDE's often also report a sense of peace, no pain etc.
An OBE triggered by coma described in the Lancet medical journal
The following account was published in the Lancet, a British medical journal. It's the latest in a long series of efforts to either document or debunk the existence of OBE's, something that for the most part has remained in the realm of the paranormal.
A man who had collapsed in a meadow was brought to a hospital, unconscious and with no pulse or brain activity. Doctors began artificial respiration, heart massage and defibrillation.
A nurse trying to feed a tube down his throat saw that he wore dentures and removed them. The patient was moved to the intensive care unit.
A week later, the nurse saw the man again. He immediately recognized the nurse as the person who had removed his dentures and also remembered other details of what had happened while he was in a deep coma. He said he had perceived the events from above the hospital bed and watched doctors' efforts to save his life.
Researchers say the evidence supports the validity of NDEs and suggests scientists should rethink theories on one of the ultimate medical mysteries: the nature of human consciousness.
Most neuroscientists believe consciousness is a byproduct of the physical brain, that mind arises from matter. But if OBE's & NDEs are really what those who experience them say they are, does that mean people can be conscious of events around them even when they're physically unconscious, when their brains show no signs of electrical activity? How can consciousness be independent of brain function? This is the question.
"Brain chemistry does not explain these phenomena," Dr. Bruce Greyson said. "I don't know what the explanation is, but our current understanding of brain chemistry falls short.
Woman's testimony about experiencing an NDE while in a coma
Many people ask me what was the first thing I thought or felt when I came out of my coma, about three weeks after the accident. I could feel Christ's love and compassion for me and I believe the prayers of many for me made him tune into me personally, and led to my incredible experience with Christ in that heavenly garden. I now no longer hope that there is a heaven and that Christ's life experience and atonement are real. Now I know! Just as I know that I gave birth to all five of my children and tangibly held them in my arms.
My testimony of Christ burns within me. Now, when I think of him, I have a visual memory of him looking at me there in that heavenly garden. I now have the time to focus on spiritual things daily because I can no longer work as a nurse. I thank God I'm able to communicate with others instead of being severely brain injured and unable to communicate as was expected. All the doctors say my recovery, to the extent I function now, is a miracle!
I had a near-death experience after I'd been seriously injured in a near fatal automobile accident which caused me to stop breathing necessitating the use of a ventilator and an accompanying coma. Since coming out of my coma I've had vivid remembrances of the time I was on the other side of veil in a heavenly realm.
There was a bright mist permeating everything. The light was everywhere, it even passed through me! I can remember looking at my hand and the light passed through it. I could see my hand was transparent, but this did not surprise me. As I walked with this heavenly personage his countenance shone forth with such a brightness that I can't describe. I knew this heavenly personage was Jesus because I recognized him as a familiar friend. He didn't announce who he was because this wasn't necessary.
I remember walking with Jesus, but we weren't walking in the physical sense, the best way I can describe our walking was that we were walking in mid-air, floating a bar spare above the ground of this beautiful garden we were walking in. Everything in this garden had an overall whiteness and brightness about it. I was seeing the bright green of the plants. I could see the water, and a bright glow surrounded it and the burbling of this water had a musical sound to it, the water fairly sang! The water was so sparkling clear! I remember wanting to bend over and take a drink from the stream that was running through this garden we were walking thru.
When I tried to scoop up water with my hands the water ran through my hands, literally, and it wasn't wet! Jesus stopped walking and looked at me while I was bent over trying to drink this water. I could feel his eyes on me. My thirst for this water even though I wasn't able to put to my lips and drink it was gone at that moment! I can't describe the sensation I felt when the water was running through my hands, but I did feel something. I felt this overwhelming desire to experience everything about this garden.
When I and the heavenly being talked it wasn't with our mouths, but I knew we were communicating, his countenance fairly shone, and how he felt about me shone forth about him. He simply exuded love and concern and caring for me just by standing there. The feeling of peace I felt was indescribable!
I was given the choice that I could either come back to this Earth and live more life or stay with him there in Heaven. We both knew that returning to this Earth would be a struggle because I'd told him that I wanted to return to this Earth if I could help myself and others. He knew that I didn't want to live more life on this Earth if life meant being trapped in unresponsive body, unable to communicate. The look of love in his eyes filled me with joy then, and as I remember that feeling of joy I felt then I'm filled me with joy anew.
I don't know how I did this, but then I remember that I was in a hospital room looking at my husband holding my hand and talking to me. Only I wasn't seeing from the vantage point thru my own eyes. I recognized that was my body, but I was outside of it, looking at my body. As I viewed this scene I felt a strong desire that I wanted to return to this Earth and live more life with my husband, if I could communicate with him and help him. I was understood and the desires of my heart were heard.
The next thing I remember was being trapped in my body while others cared for my physical needs. I can remember that I could tell what the nurses were thinking about me by how they touched me. I knew if they thought I was going to live or not through their touch. I knew if they thought they were caring for a basically dead person whose spirit wasn't there. I remember trying to scream out, "Look! I'm alive! I'm in here! I'm going to live!" I relaxed and trusted that person much more if I knew that they knew they were caring for a living person. I obviously could read their thoughts!
While in my spirit body I remember communicating telepathically, this is how I and Jesus communicated in that heavenly garden. It was so easy, it required no effort, you thought the thoughts and they were communicated. Speaking through my physical mouth is so difficult, and frustrating, and sometimes you're misunderstood, and they get the wrong meaning of what you're trying to say. The phrase the world uses of being soul mates is referring to the communication between two souls, spirit to spirit communication.
To communicate on a spiritual level is a very profound. I believe I've had this spiritual gift ever since my near-death experience, and it has profoundly blesses my life as I use it. I feel this great need to communicate on a spiritual level with others, and one of the only ways I'm able to communicate in this way is through writing. I have to prepare myself mentally to be able communicate on a spiritual level. You have the time to do this as you are writing in your home, without distractions. We are what we think. I find trivial thoughts distracting, I rarely watch TV and then only if it stimulates good thoughts. I listen to different music now, and gravitate towards the ethereal.
My near-death experience has changed me, I desire righteousness and I abhor evil. I'm actually quite thankful for my accident, even though it has changed my physical abilities adversely, at the same time my spiritual abilities have blossomed enormously. Ever since I woke up from my coma I've had an attitude of peaceful hopefulness. I believe the reason why I still live, one of the reasons I came back to this Earth to live is because I'm supposed to testify that the spirit world is real and beautiful, and that Jesus is who he says he is, he is our brother, and we knew him well as a friendly brother in the spirit world. This knowledge, this belief, affects every facet of my life, and my desire to communicate this to others is why I am here on Earth now relating this experience to all who will listen.
http://www.near-death.com/experiences/triggers13.html
Many people have been reporting experiencing dreams of Michael, visions, telepathic communication etc. This is not the same as what these people in the above stories are describing. Those who have passed over are on another plane, so when these psychics are trying to reach Michael on the spiritual plane, they are unsuccessful because he isn't there. Some people whom Michael may have connected with believe he is dead, so their interpretation of any messages from him, is being influenced by their own beliefs that he has passed. Others who are claiming psychic communication with him as a "spirit", in my opinion, are either lying, being deceived themselves or are simply disillusion.
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Thanks for sharing this info about the NDE. The spiritual realm is real. This story sounds very familiar to me listening on a tv show one late night but so many people have experience this. Her experience with knowing who Christ was is no different because many people who had this had met people and knew them not ever seeing them in the natural realm before.
You mention that people communicating with his spirit are being deceived by themselves. What if they don´t know how to make the difference between an alive person and a deceased one? This question has been bothering me since always.
Some mediums said he passed yet many others can´t say he passed and are dubious.
What I really think of all is that MJ was an illuminated soul with an incredible energy and for many people it looks unreal that he is gone (if he is dead) and somehow can say "Can you feel it".
I would really like to see what James Van Praagh has to say about it, or Lisa Williams. Those 2 mediums have high intuition and have not manifested yet about MJ I believe.
We are on a hoax site so the chance of MJ being alive is 50%-50%.
My reference was to the woman on youtube who appears actually mentally ill and not a psychic at all. Also psychics have to interpret what the see, hear, and/or feel and this can be clouded by one's own perceptions of the individual they may or may not have connected to. If a psychic believes that the person they have connected with is passed over, than their interpretation of any messages will reflect that idea. It doesn't matter who the psychic is, there is always an interpretation, a perception, how much the psychic is personally emotionally invested in this person, that come into play. There are also those who really do not have developed psychic abilities, who deceive people for financial gain etc. I also did say in my opinion, which doesn't make it fact, of course.
We are on a hoax site and it is your opinion only, that the chances Michael is alive are 50-50. My opinion on the other hand is that Michael is 100% alive physically. It really is your own perception, belief, faith etc. and how you have have weighed all the information that has been received over the last 1+ year.