by MJonmind » Wed Sep 15, 2010 11:04 pm
aliciaa671 wrote:Keep in mind, this is the same artist who did the Dangerous cover.
Here are some more of his paintings <!-- m -->http://abduzeedo.com/expressive-and-sur<!-- m --> ... mark-ryden
I think Ryden is giving an artist's perception/intuition of reality he sees, perhaps like an artist-type vision/interpretation. Michael must have trusted his gift in being accurate, if he hired him.
Well,sure, Mike prob. trusted him to get the "Job" done because of the Artist's virtuosity ,when Mike hired him to paint the album cover for his Dangerous CD,
But, we all know, how people considered as close friends of MJ , turned out to be much less than friends of MJ, witnessed in their disgusting behavior, especially after MJ "died,"
...all of those rats, talking about MJ and his "Ways" with this and that, including his sexual preference .(A. Klein, comes to mind here. and the list is lengthy... )
One question, when did this artist paint his " visionary work' of Mike, as a grayed out Mouse, of all things possible?
Would be interesting to find out, if this artist did this "Intuitive art work"... while Mike was still around.. <!-- s:shock: -->:shock:<!-- s:shock: -->
Peace.
This depiction of beautiful Michael as a sad bleached out mouse speaks volumes about how the artist perceived MJ.
as well as telling a "Story".
The essential question would be, how well did the artist know Michael Jackson, or how close was this aritst to Michael,enough to practically look deep into Michae's "heart break" and suffering as the "Jilted " husband or lover of LMP.
Personally, I look at this painting as "tabloid Trash" , the same as any reporter would venture out to create a "sensationalized "
story, to talk about things they do not know anything about.
Pure fabrication IMO
I do not believe for a sec. that Mike was hurting that badly over LMP..cause, I am almost sure, if had wanted her that badly , he could have gotten her back anytime ,
had she been Michael's everlasting "love' I am sure he would have found a way and married her twice , the same as Elizabeth and Richard tied knots twice, cause they really really did love each other.
According to reports and the way she even told the story after she "left" Mike, she was still so obsessed with him,
so that makes me , believe, LMP was begging Mike to take her back, including promising to have any number of babies he wished to have.
But ..MJ..would not take her back , while remaining friends with her, like the gentleman he was,
...but she went around bashing Mike, every time she opened her mouth, cause she could not have it her way...to have Mike take her back.
So this artist ,IMO..is way off , if he is trying to tell the story as fact.
Maybe , the painting reflects the artist's Fantasy..
about how,.that the daughter of King Elvis would break the "FREAK " Michael J. KOP, heart.??
Truth be told, there were many folks around who did not like for Mike to have gotten the Presley songs catalog and then Elvis's daughter too as his wife
That is the story I understand anyway, about MJ and LMP.
Just my 2cents.
Peace.
WOW...I completely agree with this post...if Michael wanted to get back w/ LMP he would have...Im sure they did love each other at some point (at least MIchael loved her) but when he found out she didn't want his kids...it was over...she lied to him...and she dealt with everything so immaturly...all she did was talk mess about Mikey...honestly I can't stand her <!-- s:evil: -->:evil:<!-- s:evil: -->
by mjsgirl89 » Thu Sep 16, 2010 2:57 am
WOW...I completely agree with this post...if Michael wanted to get back w/ LMP he would have...Im sure they did love each other at some point (at least MIchael loved her) but when he found out she didn't want his kids...it was over...she lied to him.,
Yeah,is quite true what you say Mjsgirl89, but now she wants to start a campaign of " Sunflowers"for her ex-hubby Mike,
"who ended up, the Way her Dad did".. <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? --> <!-- s:shock: -->:shock:<!-- s:shock: -->
Just hope she meant to say, they both Hoaxed their "Death"
LOL.
and in the meantime, to heck..what this artist Ryden is trying to say about our Mike and LMP in his weird painting..
.
'cause, IMO, this artist is
sooo "totally Outta the LOOooP" <!-- s --><!-- s -->
Peace
Ben, why not? Who needs Lisa? <!-- s --><!-- s -->
Ben lyrics
Ben, the two of us need look no more
We both found what we were looking for
With my friend to call my own I'll never be alone
And you my friend will see, you've got a friend in me
Ben, you're always running here and there
You feel you're not wanted anywhere
If you ever look behind and don't like what you find
There's something you should know, you've got a place to go
I used to say, "I", And "Me"
Now it's "Us", Now it's "We"
Ben, most people would turn you away
I don't listen to a word they say
They don't see you as I do I wish they would try to
I'm sure they'd think again if they had a friend like Ben
Like Ben, like Ben
by hope » Thu Sep 16, 2010 12:17 pm
The song "Ben" is about a boy befriending a rat. I still think this painting could be symbolizing "Ben" and not a mouse.
Good observation...Mike's best true friend "Ben".
and all the other people Mike thought were his " friends" too, the Rats..
A combined symbol of "Rat/s as Mike's best Friend",
as in "a Dog is a man's best friend."
A good angle to look at, to absolve the painter, if that is what he had in mind to say in this painting.
Peace.
Let´s turn the mouse in to something more fitting <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
What about Apollo, god of music, medicine, archery and single young men (He was the son of Zeus and Leto, a minor goddess). His throne, polished gold, had the backing in the form of lira. Its symbol was a mouse because the mice knew the secrets of the earth and are transmitted to him. He had a beautiful house at Delphi on Mount Parnassus, which brought together all kinds of artists.........
Need to leave the pc now...but that painting I must analize later <!-- s --><!-- s -->
Let´s turn the mouse in to something more fitting <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
His throne, polished gold, had the backing in the form of lira. Its symbol was a mouse because the mice knew the secrets of the earth and are transmitted to him.
<!-- s --><!-- s --> Verrryyy Fitting... <!-- s --><!-- s --> <!-- s --><!-- s -->
Lets dig a bit more in Apolos life...gossiiiipppppp!!!! <!-- s --><!-- s -->
According to Pindarus, the whereabouts of the legendary Apollo is the Hyperborean country, where no ship can go (A plce with no name?? <!-- s:o -->:o<!-- s:o --> <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) --> ). There lives the holy people that knows no disease, or age, and who are absent pains and struggles. Everywhere you hear choirs of girls, lyre and flute sounds. There he delights himself, Apollo, we can find him there ...
Apollo was not very happy, however, in his love life, always, something tragic was manifested. Although it was not wrong with the Muses. With Talia gave birth to the integrated Coribantesque the chorus of Dionysus, with Urania, musicians, Linus, and Orpheus.
The quietest of all his loves was the one who lived with the nymph Cyrene, daughter of the centaur Chiron. It is known that where there is a seductive nymph (who could be this one?)
They have eyewitnesses that Eros, angry with Apollo when exercised in handling the bow, inspired him in revenge, a great passion for the nymph Daphne. But shedid not correspond to their desires, and fled to the mountains.
Another story tells of his love for Coronis. She played with the feet in the water of a lake ... Apollo saw her and wanted her... As usual for him, the desire was something that suddenly assaulted him and wanted to get rid of as soon as possible....
Coronis was pregnant, but had the bad idea of giving the love of a mortal, Isquis.
Apollo, asked his sister, Artemis, to go and kill the infidel. The arrow sank in to Coronis´s chest, but before her death confessed that she also killed the son of god. Just before the body was placed on the pyre, God tore the child from her womb, alive still, Asclepius.
Have the witnesses in the case that Apollo tried in vain to revive Coronis, her body was surrounded by the fire and the fire (can this be the one painted in the heart?) and attacked him, but the flames were opened, and the hand of God removed from the womb of the girl to his son, unharmed. A Asclepius, "one who heals."
Apollo was also loved by Marpessa. But a mortal took over.
She was kidnapped by Idas, who took her to Messenia. There, Idas and Apollo fought. Zeus separated them and gave Marpessa choice between two loves. And she chose the mortal. She was afraid that Apollo left in his old age ... But obviously that did not have was the slightest idea what the customs are divine ..
Cassandra was undoubtedly a great love of Apollo. Daughter of Priam and Hecuba, sister of Hector and Paris. Apollo loved her, and to seduce her, promised to teach him the art of divination. She took lessons, but once completed, rejected him, something quite common in the life of beautiful dios.Apolo in revenge, he gave the ability to guess, but ordered that no one believed in his predictions. Thus, despite the most serious things prophesy was not believed by anyone.
Well, after reading my TS (meaning thesis, not TS the poster here <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) --> may be i was the one with marijuana <!-- s --><!-- s --> i write sentences with no meaning <!-- s --><!-- s -->
I can´t do 2 things at the same time, i am losing faculties....
I´m a admirer of Mark Rydens art. This one is also very expressive... and I think it speaks for itself.
Thank you for showing, I haven´t seen it before.
@suspicious mind & Gema: <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D --> <!-- s --><!-- s --> <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
People make it seem like LMP left MJ and he was sooooo broken hearted. But shoot seemed to me like he bounced back pretty quickly! He wanted kids. She agreed to do this soon as they married and then when they married she did not want to , She deceived the man! LMP probably wanted MJ back big time but after everything was said and done he did not take her back. His heart had closed up by then. BUT he did keep her frienship.
Then we have people that say that even after they broke up they would still be making love and stuff. so who knows? We may never know. But I do not like the painting making MJ look like a wimpy rat under LMP! <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? -->
I don't dislike this painting. Perhaps it represents the two aspects of Mike..ie. the performer which is the King of Pop so the head of Michael with it's crown and then there is His off stage persona who may be shy and quiet like a mouse. A shy person who had his heart burned and now is reticent at the prospect of making himself vulnerable again.
I also agree about Michael finding a normal woman to love and to love him unconditionally. One not after his fortune or fame who wouldve loved him more than anything in this world. I never felt LMP was good for him I felt that was not a good decision on Michael's part to marry her. She seemed more immature and unsure of herself than Michael and not one who seemed serious about their marriage or love.
by Gema » Fri Sep 17, 2010 1:21 pm
The rest of the lovers were male <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) -->
I did not realize that Arnie Klein became a registered member here on the Hoax forum?
Hmm.."the rest of the lovers were..Male.". <!-- s --><!-- s --> <!-- s --><!-- s --> <!-- s --><!-- s -->
by Gema » Fri Sep 17, 2010 1:21 pm
The rest of the lovers were male <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) -->
I did not realize that Arnie Klein became a registered member here on the Hoax forum?
Hmm.."the rest of the lovers were..Male.". <!-- s --><!-- s --> <!-- s --><!-- s --> <!-- s --><!-- s -->
According to the gossip, was Arny´s nephew the one in love with MJ <!-- s --><!-- s -->
He has a crown, so he's a king, who's sitting in to corner because media and lies? White mouse? hmm... And there is again.. number 7. <!-- s:shock: -->:shock:<!-- s:shock: --> A burning heart because a woman (L. M. Presley) broke his heart? Strange pic.
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aliciaa671 wrote:Keep in mind, this is the same artist who did the Dangerous cover.
Here are some more of his paintings <!-- m -->http://abduzeedo.com/expressive-and-sur<!-- m --> ... mark-ryden
I think Ryden is giving an artist's perception/intuition of reality he sees, perhaps like an artist-type vision/interpretation. Michael must have trusted his gift in being accurate, if he hired him.
Well,sure, Mike prob. trusted him to get the "Job" done because of the Artist's virtuosity ,when Mike hired him to paint the album cover for his Dangerous CD,
But, we all know, how people considered as close friends of MJ , turned out to be much less than friends of MJ, witnessed in their disgusting behavior, especially after MJ "died,"
...all of those rats, talking about MJ and his "Ways" with this and that, including his sexual preference .(A. Klein, comes to mind here. and the list is lengthy... )
One question, when did this artist paint his " visionary work' of Mike, as a grayed out Mouse, of all things possible?
Would be interesting to find out, if this artist did this "Intuitive art work"... while Mike was still around.. <!-- s:shock: -->:shock:<!-- s:shock: -->
Peace.
WOW...I completely agree with this post...if Michael wanted to get back w/ LMP he would have...Im sure they did love each other at some point (at least MIchael loved her) but when he found out she didn't want his kids...it was over...she lied to him...and she dealt with everything so immaturly...all she did was talk mess about Mikey...honestly I can't stand her <!-- s:evil: -->:evil:<!-- s:evil: -->
WOW...I completely agree with this post...if Michael wanted to get back w/ LMP he would have...Im sure they did love each other at some point (at least MIchael loved her) but when he found out she didn't want his kids...it was over...she lied to him.,
Yeah,is quite true what you say Mjsgirl89, but now she wants to start a campaign of " Sunflowers"for her ex-hubby Mike,
"who ended up, the Way her Dad did".. <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? --> <!-- s:shock: -->:shock:<!-- s:shock: -->
Just hope she meant to say, they both Hoaxed their "Death"
LOL.
and in the meantime, to heck..what this artist Ryden is trying to say about our Mike and LMP in his weird painting..
.
'cause, IMO, this artist is
sooo "totally Outta the LOOooP" <!-- s
Peace
The song "Ben" is about a boy befriending a rat. I still think this painting could be symbolizing "Ben" and not a mouse.
Good observation...Mike's best true friend "Ben".
and all the other people Mike thought were his " friends" too, the Rats..
A combined symbol of "Rat/s as Mike's best Friend",
as in "a Dog is a man's best friend."
A good angle to look at, to absolve the painter, if that is what he had in mind to say in this painting.
Peace.
Let´s turn the mouse in to something more fitting <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
What about Apollo, god of music, medicine, archery and single young men (He was the son of Zeus and Leto, a minor goddess). His throne, polished gold, had the backing in the form of lira. Its symbol was a mouse because the mice knew the secrets of the earth and are transmitted to him. He had a beautiful house at Delphi on Mount Parnassus, which brought together all kinds of artists.........
Need to leave the pc now...but that painting I must analize later <!-- s
<!-- s
According to Pindarus, the whereabouts of the legendary Apollo is the Hyperborean country, where no ship can go (A plce with no name?? <!-- s:o -->:o<!-- s:o --> <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) --> ). There lives the holy people that knows no disease, or age, and who are absent pains and struggles. Everywhere you hear choirs of girls, lyre and flute sounds. There he delights himself, Apollo, we can find him there ...
Apollo was not very happy, however, in his love life, always, something tragic was manifested. Although it was not wrong with the Muses. With Talia gave birth to the integrated Coribantesque the chorus of Dionysus, with Urania, musicians, Linus, and Orpheus.
The quietest of all his loves was the one who lived with the nymph Cyrene, daughter of the centaur Chiron. It is known that where there is a seductive nymph (who could be this one?)
They have eyewitnesses that Eros, angry with Apollo when exercised in handling the bow, inspired him in revenge, a great passion for the nymph Daphne. But shedid not correspond to their desires, and fled to the mountains.
Another story tells of his love for Coronis. She played with the feet in the water of a lake ... Apollo saw her and wanted her... As usual for him, the desire was something that suddenly assaulted him and wanted to get rid of as soon as possible....
Coronis was pregnant, but had the bad idea of giving the love of a mortal, Isquis.
Apollo, asked his sister, Artemis, to go and kill the infidel. The arrow sank in to Coronis´s chest, but before her death confessed that she also killed the son of god. Just before the body was placed on the pyre, God tore the child from her womb, alive still, Asclepius.
Have the witnesses in the case that Apollo tried in vain to revive Coronis, her body was surrounded by the fire and the fire (can this be the one painted in the heart?) and attacked him, but the flames were opened, and the hand of God removed from the womb of the girl to his son, unharmed. A Asclepius, "one who heals."
Apollo was also loved by Marpessa. But a mortal took over.
She was kidnapped by Idas, who took her to Messenia. There, Idas and Apollo fought. Zeus separated them and gave Marpessa choice between two loves. And she chose the mortal. She was afraid that Apollo left in his old age ... But obviously that did not have was the slightest idea what the customs are divine ..
Cassandra was undoubtedly a great love of Apollo. Daughter of Priam and Hecuba, sister of Hector and Paris. Apollo loved her, and to seduce her, promised to teach him the art of divination. She took lessons, but once completed, rejected him, something quite common in the life of beautiful dios.Apolo in revenge, he gave the ability to guess, but ordered that no one believed in his predictions. Thus, despite the most serious things prophesy was not believed by anyone.
I can´t do 2 things at the same time, i am losing faculties....
Thank you for showing, I haven´t seen it before.
@suspicious mind & Gema: <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D --> <!-- s
Then we have people that say that even after they broke up they would still be making love and stuff. so who knows? We may never know. But I do not like the painting making MJ look like a wimpy rat under LMP! <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? -->
The rest of the lovers were male <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) -->
I did not realize that Arnie Klein became a registered member here on the Hoax forum?
Hmm.."the rest of the lovers were..Male.". <!-- s
According to the gossip, was Arny´s nephew the one in love with MJ <!-- s