grace r.

solyluna · November 2010

hi guys! this last time I've been wondering, Where is Grace Rwanda? lately there are no pictures of it close to the Jacksons.
anyone know anything about her?
thanks ...

MJsForever · November 2010

Love the pic. anyone know when it was taken.

Unknown · November 2010

he has muscles ;)

anewfan · November 2010

he has muscles ;)

Superman has always had muscles! ;)

truthprevails · November 2010

Picture taken in 2009, or marked "copyright 2009"? I noticed that the Arno Bani photos had copyright 2010 (while allegedly being taken in 1999), so I think this pic too could have that date while being taken earlier... It doesn't look like a 2009 pic to me. MJ was a little heavier in that photo - he actually looks much as he did in "One More Chance".

Also: No needle marks on Mike's arms! He did pose in T-shirts here and there, and never did I see any needle marks.

Andrea · November 2010

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I haven't seen anything on Grace in a while...

mjboogie · November 2010

Yeah....been wondering. Shortly after June 25th seems that she dissappeared. Maybe she is with MJ?

She gave only a couple of interviews right. Odd ..because she was with MJ and the kids for sooooo many years!
WHERE IS SHE.? IS SHE MARRIED OR SOMETHING,LIVING IN ANOTHER COUNTR :? :? Y?

truthprevails · November 2010

Yeah....been wondering. Shortly after June 25th seems that she dissappeared. Maybe she is with MJ?

She gave only a couple of interviews right. Odd ..because she was with MJ and the kids for sooooo many years!
WHERE IS SHE.? IS SHE MARRIED OR SOMETHING,LIVING IN ANOTHER COUNTR :? :? Y?

Why is it odd that Grace wouldn't give interviews? It can simply mean that she was a loyal friend. Other people (such as Diana Ross) are also pretty quiet on MJ. David Nordahl, the longtime painter friend of MJ's, also gave just 1 or 2 interviews - all positive and all after 6/25/2009. I remember that Grace refuted the media story about her "pumping" MJ's stomach, and that was all she ever said (to my knowledge). I'd read that she was married, but don't really know...

Snoopy71 · November 2010

From what I've heard (it's been so long, I wouldn't know where to find the links to the sources of information)...but the tid bits I have heard and remember about her is that a couple of weeks before Michael's "death", she was dismissed because AEG refused to cover her expenses/salary as a nanny. (she was supposedly given a letter by their accounting department to that affect). After Michael's "death", the family (Katherine mostly I presume), hired her back to help transition the kids into their new environment at Hayvenhurst---this information was supported by pictures of Grace and the kids at Karate lessons, going to movies, Universal Studios etc.

She supposedly only did one interview with Daphne Barak (sp?-not sure on the last name) in which friends of Grace claim she was tricked into doing and that it was a "smear" campaign to make her look bad or make it look like she was providing Michael with drugs or was getting the drugs for him under aliases.... also note, Daphne is somewhat a tabloid journalist who has spoken with several members of the Jackson family in the past, most notably Joe and Katherine and I think she was also the one who released the tape recordings of the phone calls Michael made to Deiter Weisner some years ago.(the tapes where Michael is afraid for his life and family and wants to go into hiding).

After a so-called homework "incident" (or at least media gossip reports) stated that Paris and Grace got into it (argued) with each other and Grace was dimissed. It has also been said that Grace has gone to Haiti to help out with the relief efforts and that's where she is currently (though neither story has been verified or followed up on as truth)

It was reported some years ago (again through media gossip) that Michael had wanted to marry Grace (to appear more financially and publically "stable" to investors), but she was reportedly already married or not legally/properly divorced at the time. She is supposed to be close friends with Shana Mangatal (a woman it is said Michael secretly dated for some 7 years off and on). Though personally I find it odd that these two women would be close friends if either of them were romantically involved with Michael (JMO). :|

It is also said that she keeps a permanent residence in Las Vegas and has been currently employed by another family....but it seems she has all but disappeared off the face of the earth just like Thome Thome. :?

She has a charity website, though I don't know how active it is for charity donation tracing. That's about all I know or have heard. Hope that helps. :)

here's a link here on the forum that goes into some detail too...it claims there may be some fraud involved with her charity site and somehow involved with the Jackson estates 20% charity rule.

I hope I linked that thread right :roll:

PeaceLoveHappiness · November 2010

I've been wondering where Grace is too. Maybe she is with Michael.

In regards to the picture, it was taken sometime in 2002-2004 (I can't remember which year). There are other pictures of Michael, his kids, and these kids from the same day posted either on this site or somewhere else on the web. These are the series of pictures where Prince is wearing the skeleton costume and Paris is wearing the Princess costume. This is one of Nancy Malnik's pictures and it was copyrighted in 2009. I think this kid is her son, but I am not sure about that.

Snoopy71 · November 2010

I've been wondering where Grace is too. Maybe she is with Michael.

That would put an interesting spin on things :shock:

heisinme09 · November 2010

From what I've heard (it's been so long, I wouldn't know where to find the links to the sources of information)...but the tid bits I have heard and remember about her is that a couple of weeks before Michael's "death", she was dismissed because AEG refused to cover her expenses/salary as a nanny. (she was supposedly given a letter by their accounting department to that affect). After Michael's "death", the family (Katherine mostly I presume), hired her back to help transition the kids into their new environment at Hayvenhurst---this information was supported by pictures of Grace and the kids at Karate lessons, going to movies, Universal Studios etc.

She supposedly only did one interview with Daphne Barak (sp?-not sure on the last name) in which friends of Grace claim she was tricked into doing and that it was a "smear" campaign to make her look bad or make it look like she was providing Michael with drugs or was getting the drugs for him under aliases.... also note, Daphne is somewhat a tabloid journalist who has spoken with several members of the Jackson family in the past, most notably Joe and Katherine and I think she was also the one who released the tape recordings of the phone calls Michael made to Deiter Weisner some years ago.(the tapes where Michael is afraid for his life and family and wants to go into hiding).

After a so-called homework "incident" (or at least media gossip reports) stated that Paris and Grace got into it (argued) with each other and Grace was dimissed. It has also been said that Grace has gone to Haiti to help out with the relief efforts and that's where she is currently (though neither story has been verified or followed up on as truth)

It was reported some years ago (again through media gossip) that Michael had wanted to marry Grace (to appear more financially and publically "stable" to investors), but she was reportedly already married or not legally/properly divorced at the time. She is supposed to be close friends with Shana Mangatal (a woman it is said Michael secretly dated for some 7 years off and on). Though personally I find it odd that these two women would be close friends if either of them were romantically involved with Michael (JMO). :|

It is also said that she keeps a permanent residence in Las Vegas and has been currently employed by another family....but it seems she has all but disappeared off the face of the earth just like Thome Thome. :?
She has a charity website, though I don't know how active it is for charity donation tracing. That's about all I know or have heard. Hope that helps. :)

here's a link here on the forum that goes into some detail too...it claims there may be some fraud involved with her charity site and somehow involved with the Jackson estates 20% charity rule.

http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?p=172323#p172323

I hope I linked that thread right :roll:

Thanks so much, Snoopy, for that great recap of the details of Grace...I appreciate that...as for the pic of Mike with the kid on his shoulders, it looks a lot to me like that one pic of his kids and him where he is smiling soooo broadly....The Kids are little, kinda crawling all over him lovingly....so it must be early 2000's...it's probably one of the happiest looks I've ever seen on his face in any picture, so I adore it...and one more thing....could someone give me a similar recap of Thome Thome? Where the hell did he go? Has he been seen since he was on the "stage" at the hospital death announcement by Jermaine (which I look back on now, with aged hoaxie eyes and can hardly BELIEVE how obvious it was that the press conference was ENTIRELY SCRIPTED!....no doubt WHATSOEVER!!)...but seriously, has TT been seen since 6/25/09 in the media at all? I honestly can't remember and would love it if someone could illuminate me about that? Again, if he hasn't....ummmmm....WHAT????? How obvious is THAT?

solyluna · November 2010

he has muscles ;)

Superman has always had muscles! ;)

SUPERMIKE!!!!!!!

solyluna · November 2010

I open this thread thinking I'm going to read something about Grace and everyone got distracted by the picture! 

I haven't seen anything on Grace in a while...

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solyluna · November 2010

From what I've heard (it's been so long, I wouldn't know where to find the links to the sources of information)...but the tid bits I have heard and remember about her is that a couple of weeks before Michael's "death", she was dismissed because AEG refused to cover her expenses/salary as a nanny. (she was supposedly given a letter by their accounting department to that affect). After Michael's "death", the family (Katherine mostly I presume), hired her back to help transition the kids into their new environment at Hayvenhurst---this information was supported by pictures of Grace and the kids at Karate lessons, going to movies, Universal Studios etc.

She supposedly only did one interview with Daphne Barak (sp?-not sure on the last name) in which friends of Grace claim she was tricked into doing and that it was a "smear" campaign to make her look bad or make it look like she was providing Michael with drugs or was getting the drugs for him under aliases.... also note, Daphne is somewhat a tabloid journalist who has spoken with several members of the Jackson family in the past, most notably Joe and Katherine and I think she was also the one who released the tape recordings of the phone calls Michael made to Deiter Weisner some years ago.(the tapes where Michael is afraid for his life and family and wants to go into hiding).

After a so-called homework "incident" (or at least media gossip reports) stated that Paris and Grace got into it (argued) with each other and Grace was dimissed. It has also been said that Grace has gone to Haiti to help out with the relief efforts and that's where she is currently (though neither story has been verified or followed up on as truth)

It was reported some years ago (again through media gossip) that Michael had wanted to marry Grace (to appear more financially and publically "stable" to investors), but she was reportedly already married or not legally/properly divorced at the time. She is supposed to be close friends with Shana Mangatal (a woman it is said Michael secretly dated for some 7 years off and on). Though personally I find it odd that these two women would be close friends if either of them were romantically involved with Michael (JMO). :|

It is also said that she keeps a permanent residence in Las Vegas and has been currently employed by another family....but it seems she has all but disappeared off the face of the earth just like Thome Thome. :?

She has a charity website, though I don't know how active it is for charity donation tracing. That's about all I know or have heard. Hope that helps. :)

here's a link here on the forum that goes into some detail too...it claims there may be some fraud involved with her charity site and somehow involved with the Jackson estates 20% charity rule.

http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?p=172323#p172323

I hope I linked that thread right :roll:

THANK YOU SNOOPY! :ugeek:

Tink.I.Am · November 2010

I have no idea what happend to her.. but in my quest to find out i did find this interesting article from 2006.

Is this Jacko's new wife?by ALISON BOSHOFF
Last updated at 23:24 10 November 2006

This Wednesday will be quite a date for connoisseurs of pop spectacle. Michael Jackson, who has essentially been in hiding since his trial for child abuse 18 months ago, is to appear on stage during the World Music Awards at Earls Court in London.
He is seldom seen - his last public outing was at another awards show in Japan in June - but this time the difference is that he is going to perform. It will be the first time in nine years that he has performed in the UK.

A public appearance of this nature is a bold step for a man who is, at around seven stone, extremely frail. Added to this, some in America insist that he is addicted to prescription painkillers, and has a private life which is so peculiar it defies categorisation.

Indeed, these days Jackson, 48, cuts a truly macabre figure, with his face ruined by plastic surgery and his skin a deathly shade of white.
He has been seen so little that he seems barely real, and sightings have taken on an almost mythological quality. When it was reported in October that he had been out, dressed as a woman, in a floppy sunhat and high heels in St Tropez, the reports were widely believed, even though the person in question was not actually him.

It speaks volumes that people will so readily believe he would go out disguised in this way. The fact is that since the conclusion of the trial, Jackson has become a delusional and isolated figure. Aides say he is so prone to panic attacks that he cuts himself off from human contact for days at a time.

He is terrified of germs, and has a phobic fear of being touched by his fans. According to an associate who met him last month, he virtually lacks the self confidence to speak.
While in Bahrain as a guest of the royal family, he took to wearing an abaya, the black robes traditional for Arab women, in a bid to pass unnoticed.

And yet we are promised he is ready to perform a new version of his song Thriller, the smash hit which launched 52 million album sales. The song has been remixed at a secluded studio in Westmeath, Ireland, with the help of Will.i.am of the Black Eyed Peas.
And an album of new material has, says his publicist, been worked on, and may be released - if he can get the financial backing of a record label - next year.

So what is the truth about the most peculiar man in pop? And where on earth has he been since he walked out of the courtroom in Santa Barbara in June 2005? Stories constantly circulate about him - that he is suicidal, bankrupt, converted to Islam.
The answer is that he has been building a new life, first in Bahrain, then more recently in Ireland and Switzerland with his children Prince Michael, nine, Paris Katherine, eight, and Prince Michael II - known as Blanket - who is four.

Significantly, at the centre of this new life is the woman who they all call 'Mom' - stunningly attractive Grace Rwaramba, whose job description is nanny, but is far more than that.

RWARAMBA, 39, started working for Jackson in 1991, dealing with insurance for his employees. In the early days, she is thought to have had a short-lived romance with Jackson's brother Jermaine. Then, in 1999, she became Prince Michael's first nanny - a position of great trust. Jackson's former wife Debbie Rowe has remarked that her services were not required because Michael did it all, from nappies to feeds, but Rwaramba soon became a valued part of the family.

Although she quite deliberately keeps out of the limelight, and did not testify at the trial or even attend it, she has emerged as the most important woman in Michael Jackson's world, and quite possibly the only person alive whom he trusts.

As his family, friends and business associates have discovered, her influence is considerable: she is the gatekeeper. No one gets to speak to him without her say-so. This summer, for instance, Jackson finally got a personal mobile phone, but within a day he lost it and gave up on the idea. Instead, it seems that he is happy for Rwaramba to be the one who deals with the outside world.

There was a six-month period after the trial when Jackson refused to speak to any of his brothers or other family members - he thought they were plotting against him. It was Rwaramba alone who he took with him when he fled to Bahrain, and only she whom he leaned on for support.

Some sources in the Jackson camp insist the relationship is so close that they will shortly be married. A date in September came and went when they were supposed to wed in Switzerland. Other rumours hold that they are already secretly wed, although both Rwaramba and publicist Raymone Bain deny this is the case.
Rwaramba is, records reveal, already married to Stacey Adair. But she and Adair seem never to have lived together, and it is not clear if Jackson knows Adair exists. American reports say the 1995 union in Las Vegas bears the hallmarks of a marriage of convenience for Rwaramba, who originally comes from Rwanda but attended college in Massachusetts.

If she is still married - and no record of a divorce has come to light - it is not preventing her and Jackson from enjoying the longestrunning and most harmonious relationship he has ever managed to have with another adult.
The Mail has been told that Rwaramba and Jackson are fired up by the thought of launching a major global humanitarian project to 'save' children living in poverty in developing countries.

'Both Michael and Grace are genuinely very moved by stories about need and poverty,' says a friend. 'They would love to help others. That is what moves them most.'
How astonishing that Jackson believes that, after the revelations about him sleeping with young boys, he could have any possible role in a charitable arena.
However, Grace Rwaramba is religious, and apparently encourages him to believe he is a victim, and may yet be rehabilitated.

In a rare public utterance, she was asked about who was behind the accusations of abuse against her employer. 'Satan, the devil,' she said. While the rest of the world is perturbed by the accounts of Jackson regularly sleeping in the same bed as ten and 11-year-old boys, there is no doubt in her mind that he is a complete innocent.
She and Bain have been behind recent changes in manager, lawyer and record label, and the two of them firmly believe that he can and will make a comeback to the spotlight when the time is right.

MISS Rwaramba has returned to Bible study, and is believed to be a Jehovah's Witness again, as he is. She is entrusted with feeding the children, and shares his obsessive concerns about sterility and cleanliness. 'Everything is done Grace's way,' says an observer.

This has had some serious repercussions for Jackson. Shortly after the trial, he agreed to let Rowe see the children - she had barely laid eyes on Paris since Jackson snatched her up in the delivery room and ran home with her.
The gesture was one of thanks, to repay Rowe, mother of Jackson's first two children, for her surprisingly positive testimony.

(Rowe had told the Santa Barbara district attorney that she was going to tell the court Jackson was a danger to children and took drugs, but by the next morning she had changed her tune so much that they declared her a hostile witness.)
Rowe seems to have hoped her stance might be the start of a new relationship with the children, who at that point she had not seen in three years.
And so in August 2005, Rwaramba was the one trusted to take his children to a Los Angeles hotel to meet their mother. It was a disaster.

Rowe was aghast to discover the children referred to Rwaramba as Mom. What, Debbie asked, had they been told she was? 'A family friend,' said Rwaramba, who told Rowe she was not allowed to tell them the truth for fear of confusing them.
Soon afterwards, Rowe filed a lawsuit asking for money for legal fees and support, and for access to the children, who she said had been abducted to Bahrain on faked passports.

A judge asked both sides to publicly file all documents relating to the divorce, and there was talk that Rowe held documents disclosing-that Jackson was not the natural father of either of her two blonde children, despite his claim both were conceived 'the natural way'.
A deal was struck this autumn in which Rowe once again renounced all claims to custody and received a further £750,000 a year.

She feared if she had won custody, Jackson would have remained in Bahrain, which is not a signatory to the Hague Convention, and that the children would be forever out of her reach.
But Jackson has emerged from the ranchstyle house in suburban Manama, Bahrain's capital, which was loaned to him by King Hamad, along with a Bentley and a Rolls-Royce.
He had set up a record label jointly with the king's son Sheik Abdulla bin Hamad Al Khalifa, promising to make an album. But by this spring, the relationship had soured and the deal was off.

He quit the country and the company, and went to Ireland. He has been in rented properties, thought to include farmhouses in the Wicklow mountains, and in hotels such as Luggala Castle. Jackson has taken his children out to buy books in Dun Laoghaire (he chose one on The Beatles, and Paris opted for a tome on fairies).

They have been to the cinema in Dundrum, and were spotted shopping in Dalkey. He enjoyed a few weeks at Grouse Lodge recording studios in Rosemount.
Last month he hired new lawyers to sue the old ones, claiming his former attorney was plotting to have him declared bankrupt over a disputed £115,000 in fees. A case brought by his former friend Marc Schaffel, who says Jackson owes him around $1.6 million, is ongoing.

Jackson, once on the brink of bankruptcy, is understood to have been more than £135million in debt this spring, after he blew his £500million fortune on bad investments and insane spending.
The Sony Corporation has agreed to find a bank willing to loan him £200million to pay off his debts. In return, he had to put up as collateral his share in the song rights of acts including The Beatles.

It is clear his circumstances are much altered; he was recently seen using the budget airline Ryanair. This weekend, though, he and his entourage are due to arrive in London courtesy of the WMA organisers in familiar style - via private jet.
It will be something of a nostalgic revisiting of his glory days, as they are believed to be heading for the Lanesborough Hotel in central London, which was always his bolthole of choice in the capital.

He likes the Lanesborough because it is close to Hamleys toy shop, which used to open up for him in the middle of the night. He also likes the hotel because they were willing to make him 'comfortable', sending staff out to pick up his favoured Kentucky Fried Chicken meals. (He likes the chicken breasts with mash, corn and buttered biscuits, and will happily have this for both lunch and dinner.)

But, now that he is no longer the King of Pop, one wonders what kind of welcome awaits him. Will Hamleys throw open their doors? Will fans wait beneath his window and cheer when this troubled, frail man tries to reclaim his place in the public eye?

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/ar ... z15S9BrzD8

mjboogie · November 2010

WOW!!! :shock: :shock: :shock:
Know something? It would not surprise me if they MJ & GRACE were involved but then again MJ is so private who would know? Hopefully he did! Great for him! The man is human and needs female companionship as any other male right?

taty_2crazy · November 2010

I have no ideia what happened to her,only that she was fired. :?: :?:

Snoopy71 · November 2010

WOW!!! :shock: :shock: :shock:
Know something? It would not surprise me if they MJ & GRACE were involved but then again MJ is so private who would know? Hopefully he did! Great for him! The man is human and needs female companionship as any other male right?

Great for her too! I remember reading somewhere she stated in her high school year book that her ultimate dream was to work for (or marry) Michael Jackson...not sure which one was quoted. But what a fairy tale ending for her. I guess dreams do come true :)

I wish I had kept all that information I found and the url links about her...sorry everyone, I lost all that stuff when my other computer died. :(

....There's a quote by Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis that I love...and I think it applies to Michael as well...

"The first time you marry for love, the second for money, and the third for companionship.”

Grace would equal companionship....very probable in my opinion. ;)

LoveNeedsExpression · November 2010

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LoveNeedsExpression · November 2010

I have no ideia what happened to her,only that she was fired. :?: :?:

she got fired for arguing with paris, allegedly

Unknown · November 2010

Grace on facebook:

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Daphne Barak's Website

Articles about Grace

Some other articles

The company (charity :?: ) Grace has created.

World Accountability for Humanity
Grace Rwaramba, Founder and CEO
World Accountability for Humanity
269 S. Beverly Drive #293 Beverly Hills, CA 90212
<a href="mailto:Info@worldaccountabilityforhumanity.com">Info@worldaccountabilityforhumanity.com</a>

A Vision Responding to a Need.
Grace Rwaramba, Founder and Chief Executive Officer of World Accountability for Humanity, established her firm in 2009 to achieve her long-held dream to participate meaningfully in improving the lives of disadvantaged people. Her firm bridges the gap between donors and recipients where factors such as accountability, feedack, and an understanding of bureaucracy are critical to fulfilling donors' intentions to make a positive difference.

An Instilled Sense of Obligation.
The seeds for Grace's dedication to others were planted by her father, Job Rwaramba, who emphasized to his children that they were fortunate. Helping others was an obligation not to be questioned. Her father and mother, Magdalena Kinyogote Rwaramba, had left Rwanda during the threatening years of genocide and settled in Uganda where Grace was born. The home Grace shared with her family became a refuge for many. Blending an entrepreneurial spirit and business acumen, Grace's father set up dispensaries in outlying areas and parlayed his profits by purchasing parcels of land. His strong commitment to education compelled him to send his oldest son and daughter to the U.S. and Canada, respectively, for further education. Later, following in the tradition of older children paving the way for younger siblings, her father entrusted Grace and two sisters to their older brother and sister in the U.S. At the age of 13 Grace began her high school education at a boarding school in Connecticut that had a multiethnic student body. Her higher education followed at Atlantic Union College where Grace received her Bachelor's degree in Business Administration.

Traveling, Working and Living around the World.
In an association of more than fifteen years Grace worked for MJJ Production and other Michael Jackson ventures. During her extensive travels the needs of the world's poor, sick, and unfortunate were often visibly at hand. Grace has a special affinity for disadvantaged people in all areas of the world who are trapped in the repetitive cycle of poverty that prevents opportunities for education, healthy nutrition, medical care, and a positive living environment. The anguish she has felt for suffering people has led her to profoundly appreciate the charitable work of many, including the Deepak Chopra family and Michael Jackson through his Heal the World Foundation. Grace founded World Accountability for Humanity to "bridge divides and allow philanthropy to function as it should, for the benefit of both donors and recipients."

solyluna · November 2010

I do not like this woman at all well, I always found very strange.she was fired several times, why? and she always returned to work with Mike, why? and now she is not, is not the house jackson
to remember:MJ's Former Nanny -- Obsessed from an Early Age

7/11/2009 10:45 PM PDT by TMZ Staff

Michael Jackson's former nanny, Grace Rwaramba, fulfilled most of her high school fantasies when she became a part of MJ's life -- as her old high school yearbook spells out multiple times.
Michael Jackson is mentioned four separate times in her 1985 senior yearbook from The Academy of the Holy Family in Connecticut. In one section, classmates predicting Rwaramba would marry the singer and have her "own generation of Jackson 5."

She came pretty close.

solyluna · November 2010

I have no ideia what happened to her,only that she was fired. :?: :?:

she got fired for arguing with paris, allegedly

this woman scares me

Snoopy71 · November 2010

I don't know what to make of her...it seems she's spent her life getting into Michael's inner circle and eventually became his inner circle!

I'd be interested to know what the Jackson family's take on her is. No one in the family seems to talk about her. It's incredulous to me that after 17 years of working for Michael, no one in "Camp Jackson" seems to know anything about her. :|

all4loveandbelieve · November 2010

Yeah....been wondering. Shortly after June 25th seems that she dissappeared. Maybe she is with MJ?

She gave only a couple of interviews right. Odd ..because she was with MJ and the kids for sooooo many years!
WHERE IS SHE.? IS SHE MARRIED OR SOMETHING,LIVING IN ANOTHER COUNTR :? :? Y?

Didn't katherine fired Grace/ She did not like the way she was with the kids? I am not sure if any one can reply to this.. Why would she be with Mike. if Mike had the kids yes but the kids are with Katherine.. nah she is not with Michael that's for sure.

grace r.

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