"BAM" SCENE ANALYSIS... one more time
scorpionchik
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As the hoax investigation countinues, I would like us to refresh thoughts of BAM scene in TII since I believe it is most bold episode. Actually it is not a clue, he directly explicates his thought.
I was watching again TII today on TV, got emotional again, then listen BAM scene again, as we know at the very end ot the documentary. All of a sudden I got an idea wish to discuss with all.
Here is it: apparently BAM scene is absolutely irrelevant, has nothing to do directly or indirectly with rehearsal itself. Unusual, impertinent episode that can be interpreted ambiguously though: 1. MJ is alive and it is a message from Michael to us "he is alive and will be back"; and 2. Michael is dead because was episode was used later on by evil people (AEG) as they got a hint that Michael is planning something.....escape, therefore they killed him (through Murrey) before MJ could escape.
The Michael's wording "Let me breath my own time when I come back here...........", tells me he was tired, not prepared, and wanted to go away for some time. I also wonder why Ortega repeats every word after Michael. <!-- s:?: -->:?:<!-- s:?: -->
So, the wording was understood by AEG and to prevent themselves from a scandal and keep profit they did whatever it takes calculating that documentary would bring them even more money than live concerts.
Or, fortunately, Michael was able to achieve hoax successfully and currently is fine and save. But then, when he will be BAM as he said? May things go not the way he expected after hoax and he won't be back? Your thoughts please.
I was watching again TII today on TV, got emotional again, then listen BAM scene again, as we know at the very end ot the documentary. All of a sudden I got an idea wish to discuss with all.
Here is it: apparently BAM scene is absolutely irrelevant, has nothing to do directly or indirectly with rehearsal itself. Unusual, impertinent episode that can be interpreted ambiguously though: 1. MJ is alive and it is a message from Michael to us "he is alive and will be back"; and 2. Michael is dead because was episode was used later on by evil people (AEG) as they got a hint that Michael is planning something.....escape, therefore they killed him (through Murrey) before MJ could escape.
The Michael's wording "Let me breath my own time when I come back here...........", tells me he was tired, not prepared, and wanted to go away for some time. I also wonder why Ortega repeats every word after Michael. <!-- s:?: -->:?:<!-- s:?: -->
So, the wording was understood by AEG and to prevent themselves from a scandal and keep profit they did whatever it takes calculating that documentary would bring them even more money than live concerts.
Or, fortunately, Michael was able to achieve hoax successfully and currently is fine and save. But then, when he will be BAM as he said? May things go not the way he expected after hoax and he won't be back? Your thoughts please.
Comments
I know the bam scene is seen as a huge clue for many, and it may well be, but in the spirit of objectivity, I have to disagree that this scene is irrelevant for a rehearsal.
It could be just as it appears - and how I saw it when I first watched the film - an abrupt pause in the song (I think it was Human Nature). MJ pauses in many of his performances both for dramatic effect and to allow him to get his breath back. He says that in the pause he plans to button his shirt, jacket whatever, and play with the audience. We know how just standing there sends audiences wild - he knows full well what messing with his clothes or snapping his fingers would do! And the Bam pointing pose is the cue for the music to start again.
It could be as simple as that! So that's why it's not on my list of reasons why I think MJ's alive.
"For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."
So, for that reason, I think it was strategically placed at the end of the credits, to relay a message to the real fans.......
Regardless of when that scene was taped, it was strategically placed after the credits to arouse suspicion, and that was achieved. God bless.
Simply because to me, that's not Michael Jackson! If you look closely you might notice that it was just a look-alike Pak!
So ... for me ... it was planted deliberately to mislead us and give the talk.
Am I crazy?? Maybe yes, but it is my opinion! <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: --> <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: -->
Now from a hoax standpoint, I think it is likely a clue since it was purposely added at the very, very end of the movie.
Don't think I started believe MJ is dead. It is the way to get the truth, analysing all cons and pros, both possibilities- dead or alive. One thing is fact, the scene is there for reason.
No way. For real? Why would Michael come back after bathe. Is he taking bath once for a while? <!-- s --><!-- s -->
Although I also still think Michael is alive, if AEG and/or SONY did murder him, then I think they put that scene in the movie to feed the hoax idea, and hopefully create more interest in fans to buy the forthcoming DVD. There is no doubt in my mind that people from these companies are watching the hoax sites. I also wouldn't be surprised if some of these people are even posing as believers and posting on here.
Its MJ rehearsing "BILLIE JEAN". <!-- s8-) -->8-)<!-- s8-) --> Simples.
Human Nature is playing over final credits and stops abruptly at 'Looking out...(bam)'
Cut to MJ on stage.
MJ: There should be a break there.
KO: Yeah, we gotta work that out.
MJ: Have it right there okay?
KO: Yeah, we gotta work that one out (subtitles say this, but I only hear mumbling!)
MJ: Let me bathe in my own time when I come back in.
KO: Yeah, you got it.
MJ: I'm gonna button my shirt or my jacket or whatever it is. (KO mumbling something about 'come back in' over this bit)
MJ: I'm gonna look around a little bit, play with them. Snap my fingers maybe, then bam!
Cut to Earth Girl.
In the Human Nature section of the film (which incidentally I found one of the most odd in the film) it has this pause too after 'looking out...', but he just waits a few seconds before singing '.... across the morning'. No buttoning his shirt, looking round, playing or snapping fingers here! Interesting that they save that bit for the very end when most people won't see it.
Also there is no music till after he's sung '... across the morning', so my theory that the pointing bam pose was a cue for music, is rubbish! The musicians would simply use him singing again as their cue.
DancingTheDream, what makes you think this was a rehearsal for Billie Jean rather than Human Nature?
Thats what he does for Billie Jean. The light comes on. He plays with his jacket, his clothes... he comes in his own time.. and then does the Billie Jean solo dance routine.
I felt the bam scene followed on from the music that was being played before it, i.e. Human Nature, but you could be right about Billie Jean. I have to say though that I always feel he's in his own world at the start of BJ performances, that he's sort of going through his own routine, setting the scene etc, with his clothes as props, rather than playing to the audience as he appears to be in the bam scene.
Who knows?!!
But Billie Jean rehearsal was in the middle of the documentary completed. You mean that episode of BJ producer cut and separately put at the end of the film? What for? So, it is not a clue and nothing then? <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? -->
But the wording has nothing to do with BJ or Human Nature........
@ curls Are you sure MJ says "bathe" instead of "breath"?
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and this <!-- m -->http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsvOkgnJ ... re=related<!-- m -->
To the point, that dark EMTHY /SILEND stage and bloory visual content make me feel it was shooting NOT during TII reversals BUT SEPARETLY - Before or After <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) --> the movie was done - just to complete actual subliminal deliborated message .
P.S. Just 2 complete Kenny O "On It" status - friend of my accidently meet him on dinner place last sept. near Santa Inez, and witnessed how some die-hard fans loosing their nerve and shoot him "murder!" - he shooted back "u dont understand it - i am his best friend!".
So, just two Actual cents about it ...