1983: Is it just me or something is off?

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  • msteetee34msteetee34 Posts: 1,234
    Now that I think about it since MJ was a prankster what if he was simply wearing some fake teeth to mess with the interviewer in the first video. It almost look like they could be the fake teeth that people wear on Halloween. It also looks like a bump was place on his lip and something with the nose. He could have done it as a joke and the interviewer was too goofy to say anything or notice. I could actually see him doing something like that. MJ had perfectly straight teeth so that's the only other reason I could think of his teeth looking that way.
  • it also seems to me that he keeps his mouth more closed and makes an effort not to smile. might be difficult to keep these things in place or something. can't figure out the nose though as that little indentation seems to show up quite often in the future pictures. makeup maybe?
  • But why would he do something like that in this particular interview? That's my immediate question to him being a prankster.
  • gwynnedgwynned Posts: 1,361
    Til I finally died, which started the whole world living......wow. That made me weep.
  • msteetee34msteetee34 Posts: 1,234
    But why would he do something like that in this particular interview? That's my immediate question to him being a prankster.

    Hey who knows maybe he was just in the mood to have some fun. Maybe he did it just to mess with the interviewer. Maybe he was testing out some fake teeth for a future disguise.lol
  • I think it's just the bad quality of the video.
    I found a moment in the first video where his teeth don't look as bad as for example at the moments friendlikeme81 showed us.
    And watch his collars: the metal things at the tip of them look just as bad on the first video as his teeth. They look black on the top.
  • I think it's just the bad quality of the video.
    I found a moment in the first video where his teeth don't look as bad as for example at the moments friendlikeme81 showed us.
    And watch his collars: the metal thing at the end of them look just as bad on the first video as his teeth. They look black on the top.
  • The collars - from the second video and from the poor quality first video:
  • looking4truthlooking4truth Posts: 1,450
    The collars - from the second video and from the poor quality first video:

    Great point. Thanks for this. There still is some difference, obviously with his nose but that could've been pre and post surgery. I'll be neutral about this for now. This does prove that it could've been the video quality though.
  • The collars - from the second video and from the poor quality first video:

    Great point. Thanks for this. There still is some difference, obviously with his nose but that could've been pre and post surgery. I'll be neutral about this for now. This does prove that it could've been the video quality though.
    Thank you, looking4truth!
    I think it's pre and post surgery. Two different videos. The background and his chairs are different too.
  • PureLovePureLove Posts: 5,891
    The collars - from the second video and from the poor quality first video:

    Great point. Thanks for this. There still is some difference, obviously with his nose but that could've been pre and post surgery. I'll be neutral about this for now. This does prove that it could've been the video quality though.
    Thank you, looking4truth!
    I think it's pre and post surgery. Two different videos. The background and his chairs are different too.

    Totally agree with you both. That's definitely Michael in both videos. Thank you for the pictures DREAMSandTRUTH.
  • It was my pleasure, PureLove! <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) -->
  • MJLive2010MJLive2010 Posts: 139
    I Believe that MJ had impersonators but I don't believe that there is 2 Mj or more and just think Simple Nobody can talk exsacly like MJ so lets stay on the One and only Mr. Michael jackson
  • lravinglraving Posts: 56
    30... no I'm just kiddin... in the second interview...

    I'm still enjoying that moment. That was too funny!

    BTW... in the first he reminds me a lot of Janet.

    L.O.V.E.
  • I swear lol sometimes y'all crack me up! Its MJ in both interviews, no one can duplicate his voice exactly like that. No one! seriously, and when you have listened to Michael for so many years the way I have and many others, you can't be fooled.Some of you are just looking too hard into things <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: -->
  • PureLovePureLove Posts: 5,891
    I swear lol sometimes y'all crack me up! Its MJ in both interviews, no one can duplicate his voice exactly like that. No one! seriously, and when you have listened to Michael for so many years the way I have and many others, you can't be fooled.Some of you are just looking too hard into things  :roll:
    <br /><br />Exactly!
  • Tink.I.AmTink.I.Am Posts: 878
    the odd theeth in the first clip i've seen in TII, I was then thinking that MJ was puting on new veneers. But maybe this explaines it, two different people allt together. the nose in the first clip also the same nose as on the sketch of the "dead" mj's face.... hmm hmmm hmmm..

    his way of speaking about himself is also 100% him in the second clip, but not so much in the first clip.
    also at the end of clip 1 the presenter thanks michael for this candid interview. candid can be both upright and honest as well as... candid camera....
  • becbec Posts: 6,387
    I'm pretty sure there's more then one man we know as Michael Jackson and that is has been that way for a long time. I'm not sure how I feel about it, it kind of freaks me out a little to realize that it's probably the truth and it's been in front of us and under our noses for some 20 years. I'm not angry or upset about it but it is a shock. I don't think about it very much because I really just can't comprehend it. It changes everything that there are, and have long been, 2 Michael Jacksons.

    The man himself is an illusion:
    mjcourt3.jpgmjcourt2.jpgmjcourt4.jpgmjcourt1.jpg
  • suspicious mindsuspicious mind Posts: 5,984
    Here are two interview clips from 1983. To me, something seems off. Look at the teeth and nose. Perhaps, you'll see what I see. It could be video quality and possible nose surgery but I am not sure. What do you guys think?


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    to me it seems like if could be two different times. in the first one his lips look kind of parched almost to the point of being sore. in the secons they look soft , pink and healthier, like he had been ill or dehydrated in the first one. the other stuff i think could be faked . i wonder if the lips could be made to look this way? he had probaly just been around all of those makeup people and learned how to get different looks out of stuff. idk i think this isn't the kind of knowlegde he would get from karen but more like rick baker.
  • GINAFELICIAGINAFELICIA Posts: 6,506
    Here are two interview clips from 1983. To me, something seems off. Look at the teeth and nose. Perhaps, you'll see what I see. It could be video quality  and possible nose surgery but I am not sure. What do you guys think?<br /><br /><br />
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    <br /><br />What the hell can I think anymore? This man either has a few doubles or the stories about the plastic surgeries are true or the make-up is used to create illusions all the time.
  • GraceGrace Posts: 2,864
    Sep 2009 (Annie's theory)<br />http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=253&t=5391<br /><br />Jan 2010<br />http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=253&t=2741<br /><br />Feb 2010 (The Official Double Thread)<br />http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=99&t=6415<br /><br />Mar 2010<br />http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=7935<br /><br />With morphs and references to teeth:<br />http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=7370<br /><br />There's this pic:<br />http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forumpics/O222.jpg<br /><br />Apr 2010: (Doppelganger)<br />http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=99&t=8297<br /><br />Sep 2009 (old mjkit / mjhd - Jonathan)<br />http://mjkit.forumotion.net/t1066-updated-informant-makes-2nd-contact-provides-more-clues-on-jonathan<br /><br />Nov 2009 (TII review - Michael Jackson’s This Is It ~ Documentary or Mockumentary?)<br />http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/blog.php<br /><br />Check out in the same blog (Nov 2009, older entries):<br />The Mike J Jackson ~ Michael J Jackson thing again<br />It Takes Two To Tango – Part 2<br />It Takes Two To Tango…The Truth, The Lies, The Guilt & Making up<br /><br />More threads:<br />http://mjkit.forumotion.net/search?mode=searchbox&search_keywords=double&show_results=topics<br />http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewforum.php?f=99<br /><br />And then there's these pictures eg:<br />http://www.gettyimages.de/detail/50721299/Time-Life-Pictures<br /><br />variousprofiles.jpg<br />http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v328/fcfbec/variousprofiles.jpg<br />http://exploringthehoax.wordpress.com/2010/04/20/doubles-dopplegangers-n-twins-oh-my/<br /><br />ohrenrechtslinks.jpg<br />http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/4952/ohrenrechtslinks.jpg<br /><br />A double's video - see that smile:<br />http://uk.truveo.com/video-detail/michael-jackson-twin/2282288124<br /><br />Since teeth can be made to look identical, we may think about about ears, jaw line (reduction) and hands.<br />Sometimes it is useful to check early thoughts again.
  • TrustNoOneTrustNoOne Posts: 24
    This person in the first vid of the original post must be a shapeshifter! Reptilian teeth - OMG!
    Was MJ a shapeshifter? I don't think so.
    Vid quality has got nothing to do with that - Casey Casem's teeth are normal........
  • Tink.I.AmTink.I.Am Posts: 878
    thank you Grace for taking time to collect teh links and photos.
    I do think it is more to this than many want to believe, nevertheless one has only to look at old photos to see that
    they cant possibly all be of the same person, they are soo different...
    But here is what I think about the real michael: during the funeral and memorial they had pictures from the early 90's and the 80's nothing later, so taking that in mind, and taking in to account how the "different" mj's act on tv or in photos (sparlkle in the eyes, his smile, the way he mimics) etc I would say that the person being the real MJ is the MJ with a rounder face, a cute little smile, less makeup and a sweet little nose...
    I've got some photo examples....
  • I believe this is the real MJ in both videos. I do not agree that the interviews were on the same day. He probably just wore the same outfit. His teeth look to me like he was in the process of getting them fixed. MJs smile is too beautiful not to have been cosmetically altered. I do see a difference in the nose. The skin does look lighter, but he said himself that the vitiligo became more pronounced later than 1983. I think this is just the lighting in the video (not well lit).
  • I've been watching Live from Bucharest this morning.  Something caught my eye.  In between workin day and night and beat it is an illusion where Michael goes from the stage to a cherry picker.  No biggie right? Well, the Mj doing beat it has a mole on his right cheek that is plain as day but the Mj doing WDN does not.<br />The easiest way to pull off this illusion is to use a double or a TWIN!!<br />The reason I have even come back to this thread is the Michael album cover.  There are ten kids around Katherine and Joe in the bottom left of the of the cover.  All kids can be accounted for except the one next to Michael.....  food for thought.....as if we havent eaten enough already LOL
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